3 years later, this is still the only "newer" BMW worth getting.
@RumblingbellyАй бұрын
Do you like this more than the G80 M3CX?
@pshhyeahhАй бұрын
@@Rumblingbelly Yes
@treeightoh30036 ай бұрын
5 years later this is still the best looking M car
@ThrottleHouse5 жыл бұрын
18:36 “this wants to go sideways.” It does indeed. Come and try it on our track you silly goose :)
@MrAlansordo5 жыл бұрын
Savagegeese and Throttle house. How would you guys compare this car to the gt350? Which car comes on top?
@rileygifford15965 жыл бұрын
I am also curious to know what you think about this
@kylenewberry85985 жыл бұрын
M2 vs Supra vid ;)
@lourenco1215 жыл бұрын
@@kylenewberry8598 One shouldn't really compare a 2019 M2 Comp DCT $61,800 to a 2020 Supra Auto $49,990 since there is a noticeable price difference. The Supra exhaust note sounds good while the m2 is just ok. M2 has more top end, but the Supra is smaller and weighs much less. I will take a Supra over the M2 and I own a 2016 M3 since I want a smaller car. M2 comp also could have a spun crank hub failure when modded with an e85 tune like any other s55 engine. Supra should make 400whp with stage 2 tune while the M2 Comp with stage 1 will make 464whp and 494wtq. I still would buy the Supra even with the less hp potential since it should be more fun and more reliable.
@MozzaBurger885 жыл бұрын
@@justin2956 Eat a snickers maybe? Or take a chill pill if you're on a diet.
@wisdumb85703 жыл бұрын
I can afford this one day, and I will. Until I can own the LFA, this will become my daily driver soon. I just need to straighten up first. Love everyone, stay safe y'all.
@seanpoore500 Жыл бұрын
What are we daily’n in 2023 wisdumb?
@itchster33 Жыл бұрын
We need an update
@David-gr1do Жыл бұрын
@@itchster33it may be disappointing
@williammccusker42889 ай бұрын
2024?????
@MadMagyar137 ай бұрын
Please tell me he got the M2 🙏🏼
@raygotz10692 жыл бұрын
Still one of my favorite cars I have ever owned, now has double the horse power from the factory (turbos ugpraded), coilovers, and stickier wider tires and its a blast. Absolutely livable back seats and useable trunk and its a dream for a daily driver. I think the M2 CS gets all the hype because they not only gave it the looks but they also uncorked the motor and gave it the power the M2C should have received.
@WhiteBoardFinance5 жыл бұрын
I drove in one of these last Saturday. The guy selling me my 2003 540 M Sport just bought it and took me for a spin. Very nice.
@nexushexus43655 жыл бұрын
Spreak engrwish
@machtschnell74525 жыл бұрын
540M Sport is a nice drive.
@WhiteBoardFinance5 жыл бұрын
@@machtschnell7452 it's peak BMW 5 Series in my opinion. Fit, finish, quality, power, everything
@bobespnza-la70304 жыл бұрын
You’re on this channel??? Nice
@BitcoinTo150K3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the car and financial channels together
@steveadp5 жыл бұрын
I own one with the Manual, and Ive tracked it several times on several tracks. If you leave the MDM mode ON, the diff does a great job of keeping it straight and not oversteer as you mentioned. You have to be a little patient with the gas. I noticed in the video you are get on the gas early in the turn. I find trail braking and going to gas later is how the car wants to be driven. I came from tracking a 911, and I think this car is a perfect balance for street and track. With Michelin Cup 2's, I think it will be that much better. I have made no modifications, all stock set up. I love how BMW tuned the torque. Its very linear in its delivery. I think its a great all around package, albeit its a heavy car at 3600 lbs. Oh and the tiny gas tank means Im always filling it up.
@8teate4 жыл бұрын
Do you really experience the weight as a problem in corners?
@steveadp4 жыл бұрын
@@8teate a bit, but under heavy braking you feel it.
@tractorback764 жыл бұрын
About to pull the trigger on one with the auto and I plan on hammering it around COTA etc with some 200tw tires on it
@teddybburns4 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to know how the M2 Competition compares to the previous gen M2 for handling?
@steveadp4 жыл бұрын
@@teddybburns I have more experience with M2C but have driven the OGM2 and I would say besides the engine, the handling is better in all aspects. I 've heard it uses all the same hardware but the tuning is very different. Less body roll, and better dampening on the road. The M2 Comp can be tracked with no mods, may need to change brake fluid and eventually pads depending how often you track. Never tracked OGM2 but depending on your skill level not sure how much you notice. Im certain a more experienced driver could beat times of M2C in a OGM2. If the money doesn't matter go M2C.
@driver_1810 күн бұрын
watching this in 2025... literally the last great BMW of the modern generation along with the F90 M5. Future classics
@milanmitrovic95605 жыл бұрын
The fact that Todd actually dresses up and acts out those end-of-video skits is amazing. What a gem.
@therealgriizz77365 жыл бұрын
I have to say, what you do with tri-industries is amazing keep up the good work. Just purely doing it to HELP others which you never see anymore. Guess that’s why we love you.
@MozzaBurger885 жыл бұрын
5:40 You must be the only reviewer that actually produces a test of a car's audio system and I thank you wholeheartedly for that. It's something that matters to me and you just made me feel "eh" about the M2 in 3 short seconds there. I care about my music.
@savagegeese5 жыл бұрын
I will have a video about that soon!
@reshelby41785 жыл бұрын
My brother just purchased this car in grey. He loves it. It does remind me of my e46 m3 which I owned years ago. The dual clutch is worlds better than the smg I had on my car
@jordanbell44205 жыл бұрын
Its almost exactly the same size as the E46, unlike the other M cars, which are about the same size as Rhode Island.
@hlf_coder62725 жыл бұрын
Richard Shelton Any idea how long it took to arrive from order to delivery? I just ordered one 3 weeks ago, but the delivery date seems to be somewhat of a mystery. The only thing the dealer told me was that it would be by December. (but possibly months sooner). So I have no idea if it will be Labor Day or Christmas. lol. Thanks in advance.
@Jkan20015 жыл бұрын
You can’t get a m2 competition in grey
@Jkan20015 жыл бұрын
hlf_coder you probably just got put in the order bank waiting list if they can’t tell you your production date. If you have an actual allocation they should know the production date
@hlf_coder62725 жыл бұрын
@@Jkan2001 Ya I think you're right, and I know it varies from person to person based on a lot of different factors, but I was just hoping to get a buyer to tell me how long it took for them to get off the list, placed into production and ultimately receive the car. Something like, "I ordered in January and took delivery in May" or something similar. (Btw, I think he's referring to the Hockenheim Silver when he said "gray". I've seen a few other people make the same mistake)
@ivansvintsitsky87875 жыл бұрын
I love what tri Industry is doing. Great mission.
@aaron52225 жыл бұрын
I agree. As someone who was hurt during recruit training and unable work some jobs to have a place like this for others is awesome! Brings awareness to the situation as well
@hmackprotection15 жыл бұрын
Ivan Svintsitsky 🎯Exactly. Right On 👊🏾
@RB_CO5 жыл бұрын
Thank you to Tri Industies for stepping up and taking care of the people who deserve it the most.
@AutoWerkMedia5 жыл бұрын
This is the first car that I've driven that excites me the way my e30 used to. I drive cars of all makes and models...and every single one of them makes me long to get back behind the wheel of an M2. There's been a lot of hype around it since it came out, and still it delivers. I've got nearly 15k miles on mine since I bought it a year ago, and the smiles just keep coming. Great video, and thanks for sharing the mission of Tri-Industries. Our country needs more great folks like them.
@nomadben4 жыл бұрын
@Archimedes Do you think that was always the case? I feel like their simpler cars from the 90s aren't quite as problematic, but I don't have any first-hand experience with them.
@basithph89585 жыл бұрын
The M2 is definitely one of my dream BMWs especially with the manual transmission
@chinaxly84965 жыл бұрын
MGTOW = 'I am an incel'
@m4zcp885 жыл бұрын
Go MGTOW = I’m a loser with no job and low income, that’s why “Go MGTOW”
@ZuluAlphaParamedic4 жыл бұрын
Most MGTOW men are burnt by divorce courts and have lost mostly everything and the added burden of child support. I understand why they choose that path. I have a distant friend who is doing it after he got divorced and he is making good money and has zero worries outside of work. The guys above me are cringe and clueless. Plenty of people leaching the system that do not work or barely work and are married with kids. Just go to your local ghetto. The people who have many kids with a minimum wage salary gets pity. Lmfao, get real.
@basithph89584 жыл бұрын
Vicar Loyce lol I’m not trying to get minimum wage salary😂
@ZuluAlphaParamedic4 жыл бұрын
BASITH PH That is good. I’m not MGTOW myself, but I see my co-workers get comfortable and spend their whole paycheck the day they get it. No vision for the future or saving to invest for their career. My cousin just got some girl pregnant while working as a barista at Starbucks. Really sad, I am 19, but do not make the same mistakes. Peace.
@toutsen4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t seen you smile like that in a while! After that first highway pull, when it cuts from the instrument panel to your face, the sly grin on your face said it all. I could hear your inner monologue screaming, “Yeah, I just hit a buck forty and the car is barely breaking a sweat. Fuck yeah!” We all know that feeling when you drive something so special that you are literally laughing to yourself. That’s the mark of a one of a kind car you will always remember driving.
@Kittievr5 жыл бұрын
The oil cooler and the aluminum skid plate are really nice.
@domteewhy525 жыл бұрын
Made my donation. I love that such and awesome car channel found a unique sponsorship like this. As a veteran, I like when things have more than one appeal. Keep up the awesome work!
@ryanb87365 жыл бұрын
It’s funny when the original M2 came out, all the reviewers gave it amazing reviews. Now that the Comp is out, all the reviewers are now complaining about the issues with the original M2 and that it didn’t feel special. I don’t know who to believe anymore.
@QuickQuips3 жыл бұрын
Trust these guys and Mr Regular.
@CadexLaw3 жыл бұрын
The regular M2 sucks.
@mattyp31193 жыл бұрын
I drive an M2. They are special.
@wthisdaftpunk68473 жыл бұрын
@@mattyp3119 Do you think it’s enough of an upgrade over an E92 M3?
@Jlaw013 жыл бұрын
@@wthisdaftpunk6847 that's such a hard question... I have drove both, the 2 series is literally a smaller version of a 3 series. First of all they are much different generations. I hate the sound of the s55 in the m2 comp and the s65 is a high revving v8, enough said in that regard. Its faster, smaller, more fun around turns, looks better in my opinion, is much more reliable, has that daily driving factor even though its smaller, its everything you could want in a sports car. However, its simply missing that v8 feel. The M2 is simply a better car in almost every way possible mechanically, would I still get one over an e92m3, I don't know. If you want to beat on it, have fun without worry, daily drive it, get this. If you want a car that puts a smile on everyones face based off the sound alone, get the m3. If you held a gun to my head, I couldn't tell you which I would rather have. Sound means so much to be when it comes to cars, and the s55 just is not it, its better in almost every single way so I will ask you this, how much does sound mean to you? How much does that raw emotional connection with your car mean to you?
@GlennsCarCollection5 жыл бұрын
I had my 6 speed manual M2 for 3 years, great car. I ordered one of the first M2 Comps built and it arrived at my dealer in August of 2018. Unfortunately the trade in value of my 2016 M2 dropped to $35k, the new M2 Comp with a 6 speed manual was $61k before tax, $65k with tax. Is the M2 Comp better, yes of course, but it wasn’t worth my car plus $30k to me, so I kept my M2. A used M2 is a bargain with prices in the $35-40k price range for 2016 models. Both are great cars, you can’t go wrong with either.
@TheNondiscriminatory5 жыл бұрын
Well sure. One should buy a car with the intention of keeping it- of owning it at least. The resale value should be the very very last thing on your mind, with driving the piss out of it (and how that makes you feel) being the first.
@rembo1835 жыл бұрын
Glenns Car Collection Ok you got a trade in value of $35k what could you get in private sale? I think retail would be higher depending on miles and condition? Low mileage ones are selling in $40’s at dealership. Of course they jack up prices from the trade offer to make profits.
@rembo1835 жыл бұрын
Glenns Car Collection - I totally agree with you! I just purchased a Bullitt for $52 after tax etc. The new M2 Comp. is great but very expensive like another $15. Too much for me.
@coopsnz14 жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're talking about , Germany Corporation lost 5% net profit in 2 month , BMW hasn't gain net profit in 20 yrs
@kevinclark14824 жыл бұрын
@Archimedes and what exactly do you drive?
@taylormoats20995 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your tour of the chassis in your reviews. Most don't pay attention to the engineering behind the character.
@ShaiyanHossain5 жыл бұрын
The only BMW left in their lineup that fulfills what a BMW should be imo
@MicrosoftSam925 жыл бұрын
The M140i is also great
@ShaiyanHossain5 жыл бұрын
@@MicrosoftSam92 not sold in the US :/ and the new 1 series is a FWD hatch like everything else :/
@pascutia5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing a review on this car. I love that you guys pointed out how it’s not watered down. It’s one of the last truly analogue sports cars out there!
@nessuno54034 жыл бұрын
Then they make the CS and add heavy adaptive suspension 🤦🏻♂️
@fhowland3 жыл бұрын
The audio quality on this review is amazing. That opening music montage was beautiful.
@devjyarn5 жыл бұрын
I just tried to watch a car review from another channel after really digging into your library over the past few weeks, and I had to stop only a few minutes in. I really enjoy your approach to you reviews, and I value the same things in automobiles that you do. Thanks for doing what you do.
@TheChannel19784 жыл бұрын
So true. Most reviewers are sponsored, it is such a breath of fresh to have SG reviews, by enthusiasts for enthusiasts without the advertising/lies
@Michael_3035 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a shit-eating-grin in a SG review video in quite a while.
@ryanlittleton56155 жыл бұрын
Literally the only current BMW I'd want to own.
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt5 жыл бұрын
When BowelMovementW makes a car that can remotely compete with a ZL1, they will have a car worth owning
@ryanlittleton56155 жыл бұрын
@@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt I thought it was "Big Mexican Women".
@andeleputo895 жыл бұрын
TasteMyStinkhole let us know when chevrolSHIT makes anything that can even compete against a Ford Gt or a Mclaren
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt5 жыл бұрын
@@andeleputo89 Looking at the childrens shit on your channel, I see why you're so criminally stupid.
@machtschnell74525 жыл бұрын
@@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt Come back in 3 years if the ZL1(?) is still running. Maybe you missed the part where the M2C never overheated?
@TheSpread14 жыл бұрын
I bought a manual 2021 M2C over the Supra and C8 corvette and I feel like I made the right decision.
@diggleboy5 жыл бұрын
ROFL at the outtro 80's Corvette retro! Pager, sailor cap and the hungry- bum-too-high-on-the-waist shorts. The 80's. You had to be there to get this one. Lol!
@timothycc7115 жыл бұрын
TODDD Is the funniest!
@leslie78725 жыл бұрын
the proportions on this car are amazing. i think its the ideal style for a sports car
@euroatomic5 жыл бұрын
Long time subscriber here... I ordered one 4 months ago and will be picking it up in Munich in mid August. I had 7 Miatas, a bunch of 944s and quite a few other cult cars. Hoping this will be the end game for me. They wouldn't let me drive one so I ordered based on reviews. Yours was by far the best one. Thank you for always bringing us quality content!
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt5 жыл бұрын
-->"I had 7 Miatas" Does your boyfriend know you're gay?
@Kittievr5 жыл бұрын
5:41 is what I've been waiting for. Thank you for catering us to weird audiophile's.
@csdstudio785 жыл бұрын
we're not weird. we're just discerning and suck at parties because we criticize the sound system until we leave.
@Kittievr5 жыл бұрын
@@csdstudio78 and cringe at work trucks for shit speakers and the angle of them lol
@savagegeese5 жыл бұрын
I'll have a video talking about this more soon. But in the short term Ill have graphs.
@csdstudio785 жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese Even the graphs are very telling! I thought the BOSE system in my Mazda was OK until I turn it up, hurts my friggen ears. Frequency response graphs can reveal areas of harshness our ears/brain can't quite decipher. Appreciate the effort!
@Kittievr5 жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese I enjoy the graphs. Your top notch and the only one in that space, that's why I love this channel.
@infidel900rr Жыл бұрын
These M2's have barely depreciated... still high $50k's to 60's. Been waiting for them to drop, but realizing it might never happen.
@BrunoSCot7774 жыл бұрын
In a world where all are trying to hide or use fake exhaust, BMW is aggressive and veracious on their proposal.
@leokal4575 жыл бұрын
I love these reviews but I'm desperatly waiting for more fine print! When do we get more of it? It is so interesting to hear such things from somebody who actually experienced all this stuff!
@savagegeese5 жыл бұрын
In next few weeks. On a leave right nowm
@101wrf4 жыл бұрын
It's not a $20,000 interior. Not butthurt this is just really off. Name a single $20,000 car with carbon fiber and metal trim, contrast stitching and perforated leather bucket seats, embroidered seat belts, 3 tone stitching on a leather steering wheel, and generous use of alcantara. You won't find that on even a $40,000 car. It's not the same interior as a $60,000 Lexus (and of course no Lexus drives as sporty), but no way it's a $20k interior. Other than that and the fact that the sound system is decent (not great but not terrible) and it's a good review. I love that you look at the mechanics and not just driving impressions! BTW I've owned BMW M235i, Lexus IS300, Lexus ES350, BMW 335is and the M2C. This has a nicer interior than all of those.
@Affalterbach19675 жыл бұрын
0:18 lingerie blue metallic on the M2 is my third favorite BMW blue, much better than the porta-potty blue on the recent Yas Marina M3/M4. Smurf blue on the e46 is my second favorite. What's my favorite blue BMW ? You'll need to subscribe to find out.
@masterkendro7 ай бұрын
I really wish you guys would review this generation CS, i just bought one of these, and i love it. I owned a OG LCI and honestly when i pay the comp off i want a OG to daily. While expensive, its truly a bargain when compared to the competition, no regrets, get you one, either this or an OG, and you won't regret it, these things are sweet.
@scubarubanzaii5 жыл бұрын
“It feels like it should have 50-60 less horsepower” in terms of how it feels power wise. That’s good. It’s also funny because that’s where the regular M2 sits exactly, so it seems they did okay at first. 😂
@akkando5 жыл бұрын
Except he didn't like that car, too many buttons or something.
@Shiftndrive5 жыл бұрын
I must have been sleeping under a rock as I just discovered your channel savagegeese. It is amazing! Love the quality of the footage (the cinematographic level) as well as the level of auto-tech related content and your dialog. Keep it up!
@cjcavanagh61304 жыл бұрын
I'm most impressed by those nice looking Illinois back roads, I thought those were non-existent!
@MitchMatrixx5 жыл бұрын
Savage Geese: Now featuring even more PREMIUM! New look, same great taste! Production value keeps going up, and up... Wish list: 1) This car 2) Catless DP 3) X-pipe to get rid of that ridonk resonator 4) Flip that muffler upside-down so it doesn’t hang like cow utters 5) Stage 2 tune 6) New tires every 5k miles
@Ethan7s5 жыл бұрын
Asian turbowski is so much more informative than turbowski classic.
@mdcohen5 жыл бұрын
Less homophobic too.
@tysonbear4 жыл бұрын
Homophobic too.
@imsteevin Жыл бұрын
I bought one 2 years ago and still really love it. Its held value well so far but i dont really plan on selling it.
@fabianherrmann63985 жыл бұрын
Love it, especially the intro, smooth music with plenty of car beauty shots!
@skg52 жыл бұрын
This car also has usable back seats you forgot to mention. I can fit a car seat in mine no problem. Great review!
@brandondan15 жыл бұрын
Interesting you mentioned m2 comp feels like it has about 50 more hp than it needs, which makes it tailhappy. I think the original m2 is possibly better balanced overall.
@dylanherriman13065 жыл бұрын
Best car reviews on KZbin by a country mile
@digitalskala5 жыл бұрын
Hey geeseman! You should make a regular M3/4 Competition video, would love to hear your input on those machines.
@koji.m40143 жыл бұрын
The 2-Series couple will be missed, have my doubts about the Mexican built next gen model. This design will be ageless.
@JesusGonzalez-kh8df5 жыл бұрын
I had captions on and when you were flooring it the captions said [Music] and it could not have been morr accurate
@fatbaldandhappy5 жыл бұрын
"Sound system pulled from a Daewoo Leganza" This is why I subscribe. Dang I needed that laugh!
@brockb64 жыл бұрын
sad thing, the statement is very true. first thing i noticed in my BMW
@sunmin03164 жыл бұрын
I wonder if its really that bad
@rust3dsteel4 жыл бұрын
@@brockb6 Yes. Somewhat maddening to have this on a car priced like these are.
@Jigsaw19884 жыл бұрын
I drove a M4 last week, it's the same story there. Horrible sound system. My 2002 M5 has a better soundsystem. You'd expect in 15 years they should have come up with something better. But no
@paulcs26074 жыл бұрын
If you think Beats headphones sound good, the yes, the HK is rubbish. But if you have a real HiFi at home and know what a good sound is, there's nothing wrong with the HK system in the M2C. Anyway, what do I know, ask Chris Harris - a proper audiophile who owns an M2C.
@Steeyuv3 жыл бұрын
The title says it all - 'the throwback machine'. It's a straight-6 petrol engined monster. I love mine! But it's already history.
@smilepermile8885 жыл бұрын
Found it really informative hearing your thoughts on how the M2 Competition compares with the new Supra Mark. If Toyota provides you a Supra to do a longer in-depth review on, hope to hear your thoughts comparing the M2C again if you have some updated impressions. I guess the M2C's 'twichyness' or habit to oversteer compared to the new Supra could be to do with its narrower tyres front+rear. I wonder if the differential used in the Supra is identical to the one used in this M2C but programmed differently? Would BMW be generous enough to provide this S55 engine (or the S58 engine featured in the brand new X3M) to Toyota for their GRMN Supra version or whatever it'll be called..as that Supra has a shorter wheelbase than the 2011 BMW 1M coupe and the 86/BRZ, we could be looking at a deathtrap. Can't wait to see how the upcoming lightweight limited edition M2 CS/CSL will turn out.
@lourenco1215 жыл бұрын
If BMW offers a BMW Z4 M version with a S58, I do see the Toyota Supra being offered with the S58 in that case. I don't see Toyota offering a Supra with a S58 without BMW stepping up first with a M version of the Z4. You also need to consider the price difference for the S58 powered Supra could be $16k more for the end customer since it's not just the engine being changed. You have to add bigger brakes, improve cooling, DCT trans, wider wheels, wider tires, improved suspension tuning to keep the balance and cooling needed with the increased power. The much higher price point will make it harder to sell, but it will be an unique small fun fast car.
@oscarxms5 жыл бұрын
@@lourenco121 on paper, the Supra is faster 0-60 than the M2 competition. The Supra is a compelling package at a slightly better price tag, regardless of the M-Badge on this car. Comparisons to the Supra will be inevitable once the Supra gets in the hands of the press, after it is released to the public. It will be interesting to see, if Toyota can make a better BMW than BMW.
@tomjones51665 жыл бұрын
@@oscarxms The new supra is already the better BMW for me compared the Z4 since it's not a convertible and it's around $13k less compared to the z4. If you look at Cayman vs Boxster, you see there is small price difference of ~$2100 while the z4 vs supra has a big price gap. Toyota Supra already won compared to the Z4 if you don't want a convertible and don't need the bmw badge. I personally wouldn't buy a m2 over the supra since the m2 is a heavier car and bigger car with two extra seats that I don't need. While m2 is more practical, I like the Supra more since it's an affordable Cayman or affordable Z4 coupe.
@lourenco1215 жыл бұрын
@@oscarxms I agree the new supra is exciting since it's a smaller sports car with great potential. I find there is more to a car in just hp and 0-60 numbers. I test drove the new BMW M2C and I decided it wasn't the car for me. Everyone has different tastes or wants in a cars. Reviews and comparisons are nice, but I find that I have to actually drive the car my self to get the real picture on how it feels to me. I found I liked the M3 over the M2 comp since I like the heavier steering effort found in the m3. M3 also felt more raw power wise. I am considering the Supra now since it's smaller car compared to the bmw m2/m3.
@smilepermile8885 жыл бұрын
@@lourenco121 Yes no doubt, we'll see a Z4M Roadster if the Supra GRMN comes into fruition with the S58 engine, to probably be more competitive to the 718 Spyder and 718 Cayman GT4s. Granted the S58 may have more power+torque but those Porsches will still be quicker around corners so it could be a close comparison. And yes Tetsuya Tada enginner of the Supra+86 said that by adding power to the engine, it'll have an affect on the overall balance of the car, so you'll have to make changes to the rest of the car to compensate the increased acceleration +top speed performance. Aside from Toyota's collaboration with BMW, many stuck-up haters/trolls of the new Supra (including superspeedersrob who hasn't even driven the car yet) criticised its 'lack of power' (despite Car&Driver +MotorTrend quoting that the B58 is underrated on their dynos) and mentioned that they would be willing to spend more for 'better' performance. So maybe there could be enough demand for it, or they could actually be 12yr olds who jerk off to 2JZ Supras and Fast&Furious franchise who can't afford a cheap car.
@jeffk4125 жыл бұрын
so much love to your work! From support for TRI, to the thoughtful and insightful discussion, to the excellent video construction. You are one of the very best. Cheers!
@R0adsterr0land5 жыл бұрын
You take your own audio system measurements? Your just too damn good.
@MyWatchTherapy2 жыл бұрын
I am SO impressed with this KZbin channel! Amazing. No other car reviewers have done this kind of partnership that is not just for the KZbin channels benefit. Thank you.
@carswithsanford5405 жыл бұрын
great, brutally honest review! I'd love to watch your future review on the m2 cs. Can't wait.
@timmietz5 жыл бұрын
Too bad that the CS will be only 94 lbs lighter and 45hp more. I was hoping for 3250 lbs like the new GT4
@rickfowler57265 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen many M2 comp reviews and not one person talks bad about it. I’m strongly thinking of getting one. Thanks for your non biased opinion/review as always. You have a sub 👍🏻
@lbj90235 жыл бұрын
Because its new, ask them if they still want to keep it after 5 to 10 years.
@qna95B2 жыл бұрын
@@lbj9023 more people choose to stay with OG M2, than the M2C
@FlyinGato5 жыл бұрын
I am considering this M2 Comp or the new Supra as my next "fun" car. Also, noticed I come up in the "recommended" videos section at the end of the video :)
@ShaiyanHossain5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you here as well :)
@timothycc7115 жыл бұрын
There are so many BMW's on the road. I'd probably get the Supra.
@Gjeebs5 жыл бұрын
Donated! Great cause and solid company. Happy to do it
@Grizzly16445 жыл бұрын
Did you find the seating position is off? When I sat in both the m140i and series 2 I found the seat was offset from centre of the wheel. Very noticeable, and documented on the net.
@savagegeese5 жыл бұрын
We didnt notice it that much.
@christopheranderson69315 жыл бұрын
I too am interested in hearing what SG's thoughts about the seating position are. Some M2 owners on the interwebs claim not to have any problems with the seat, but I recently bought a 2019 Kia Optima which has a driver's seat which is similarly offset in the way the M2's seat is. And it's killing me on long drives. Maybe it's just a matter of different body types?
@savagegeese5 жыл бұрын
@@christopheranderson6931 its definately a body type issue. I have been in a few cars where seats felt offset but this car felt normal.
@sweens.e36.f875 жыл бұрын
I couldn't notice it when sitting in an M2. I was well aware of the angled seat before sitting in it too.
@Grizzly16445 жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese Personally I feel seating positions in a lot of modern cars is terrible. Currently being in the market for a vehicle, I have recently sat in everything under the sun. I personally found the BMW's had terrible and noticeable seat to steering wheel offset. Cars like the VW golf GTI and R also have offset but try and correct it by pointing the front of the seat towards steering wheel centre. This means your body is slightly rotated. The Civic Type R was one of the better ones. Maybe a video in it.
@Jo-bt3xr2 жыл бұрын
Just saw one at parking lot when I went groceries the other day: same color, very cute and gorgeous looking car😍😍😍😍😍
@Gorilla_Jones5 жыл бұрын
BMW is brilliant, Let's stretch out our product line and move them all into a higher cost bracket with performance versions. It's literally the same fucking car, with a waft of nostalgia. Brilliant.
@Mgoblagulkablong5 жыл бұрын
their biggest joke is the 8 series, it's just a 5 series with different looks but in a completely different price range and everyone compares it to the S-class just because they gave it a higher number...
@TomHiel5 жыл бұрын
Mgoblagulkablong completely false information. The 8 series has nothing to de with the 5 series. It's also standing on its own platform. It's a stand alone model. 7 years ago, the 6 series was indeed a 5 series. Next year the new 9 series will compete with Maybach. I cannot understand your issue with price setting. Who cares about the price when you can pay 200.000 to 250.000€ for a car. 🤷♂️ You are definitely not a costumer in this price range. Otherwise you should not care about that. 😏 So just enjoy watch these beauties on the road. 😉
@Mgoblagulkablong5 жыл бұрын
@@TomHiel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_CLAR_platform
@Gorilla_Jones5 жыл бұрын
@@TomHiel Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about. Price is paramount, anyone who says this doesn't know how people of means keep their money. Also, these ever creeping price increases down the range cause the lower tier vehicles to also creep up in price.
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt5 жыл бұрын
1. BowelMovementW doesn't make a performance car. They make sport luxury cars. 2. If you want to see what snorting a pound of cocaine does to car prices, look no further than the Nissan GT-Darrr. Once a performance bargain at $67k, it is now $120k, and best of all, Car & Driver proved that there is ZERO performance gain between a 2012 GT-Darrr and the 2017 GT-Darrr Track Edition. So Nissan was jacking the price through the roof while giving nothing in return. Lol. Clearly the d-bags at Nissan are still furious about Nagasaki and Hiroshima and this is their way of giving the US the middle finger
@gregblack45812 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy a axe body spray dispenser? This would be icing on the cake for my Nissan Sentra modded of course .
@zephead8435 жыл бұрын
Thump, thump, thump along the back roads of Illinois.
@MozzaBurger885 жыл бұрын
Right? You can tell it isn't a land boat over bad IL pavement 😁
@MeynMotorGroup5 жыл бұрын
But is the AXE body spray dispenser at least an option for this?
@savagegeese5 жыл бұрын
I wish
@bougieweightlifting5 жыл бұрын
Best in class review
@DwainDwight2 жыл бұрын
I have a manual of this car, same colour. One of my two daily drivers. It is absolutely awesome. One of the best cars out there, along with the 2011 1M - great review mate. thanks.
@MaxSpeedMike5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the s58 in the new m cars. The s55 just doesn't sound good
@mcintosh.motors5 жыл бұрын
MaxSpeed N55 sounded better than S55 but S58 sounds decent so far in the new X3/4M
@MaxSpeedMike5 жыл бұрын
@@mcintosh.motors I agree 110%!
@MurrayTeeVee5 жыл бұрын
It sounds way better in the m2 then the m3/4
@sweens.e36.f875 жыл бұрын
I've only heard one s55 setup that actually sounded good. A big downfall for this engine.
@MaxSpeedMike5 жыл бұрын
@@sweens.e36.f87 agreed
@reinaldoreyes56315 жыл бұрын
Manual M2C owner. Driving impressions were SPOT ON!
@jsnadrian5 жыл бұрын
"Don't have to go 140mph to be sideways" and "130mph in 3 seconds" .. i feel Without Scott Turbowki's judge of speed is a little off.
@gh-cu1jh5 жыл бұрын
Man seeing those country Illinois back roads in your videos bring a smile to me because I leave the city limits of Chicago were I live sometimes with my buddies to just rip around our cars.
@davidking40095 жыл бұрын
The dude sounds like a administrative robot! Please bring back turbowoski!
@john_c1 Жыл бұрын
I love your car reviews. As always the level of detail and involvement is amazing. Thank you guys
@Suction_5 жыл бұрын
Savagebmw here with another BMW review
@tvieso5 жыл бұрын
One of the best comprehensive reviews I'm seen of the M2 Comp. Thanks for the upload.
@ctsean5 жыл бұрын
Just for the record, the suspension in the M2C is exactly the same as the M2. Same shocks, same struts, same springs, same control arms (all with same part #s).
@JBoulter115 жыл бұрын
Alright Mr Goose, you have driven the M2 and the M2 comp. You mentioned the technical differences between the vehicles, but I do have a few questions for you. From the driver's seat, though, was the difference between the two striking? Was there a significant difference in behavior or power availability? Bottom line: pretend you're an M2 owner, would you consider upgrading?
@michaelgrant52585 жыл бұрын
No Axe body spray dispenser? No buy!
@shahulhusman5 жыл бұрын
I run a Mercedes Benz dealer.. And order our cars.. I never order that option lol.. Its ridiculous
@timothycoyne58744 жыл бұрын
Right! For $60K, it should at least be Polo or Obsession. ;-)
@kamilwojcik53514 ай бұрын
My M2 has clearly easy to hear kind of locking click and engage and disengage power at low speed - seems something in the differential. Is that normal?
@TurboS-gh5wc5 жыл бұрын
The only car i'd consider selling my S2000 for. I'd also pick it over the new Supra NO QUESTION
@mudgatebronn44385 жыл бұрын
I love how Jack's arms always hang straight down, completely lifeless :P
@ostfahrstreifen84215 жыл бұрын
It's still mind blowing how damn heavy new cars are. 1600kg for such a "small" car?
@jareknowak87125 жыл бұрын
Yes, 1600 is light today :(
@Almansa403s5 жыл бұрын
its 100kg heavier than my 2006 E60 530i... haha
@timothycc7115 жыл бұрын
I disagree. 3500 lbs isn't that much for a modern car. Its great comparing the weight to older cars but you cant compare their crash worthiness.
@ostfahrstreifen84215 жыл бұрын
@@timothycc711 this was my point. Of course it isn't much because they all are much heavier. And i know why they're heavier, too, safety is a big part of that.
@idokwatcher20624 жыл бұрын
Yet porsche finds a way to be "crash worthy" at 200KG less, year after year.
@gm33534 жыл бұрын
I think the lift segments are the best part of the SG videos.
@norbo0025 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your style.
@IM_Arcades5 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of reasons why, quite a few M owners on Bimmerpost are upset we are losing the M-DCT in the G80/G82. From what we known, they are keeping the 6MT but the G-chassis M3/M4 will lose the M-DCT in place of a ZF8 because of the AWD. I love my F80 and BMW M's in general but I despise having a ZF8 in the M3/M4. It doesn't feel right. There was no emotion in the gears when I drove the F90 M5 and I'm afraid the G80/G82 will be the same. The M-DCT is a special tranny, I'm sad we are losing it. I will definitely be driving the X3M and X4M, which will be a extremely good indicator of how the next M3 and M4 will be.
@basithph89585 жыл бұрын
Sadly the M2 is probably one of the only real driving machines from BMW
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt5 жыл бұрын
Even more sad is how BowelMovementW refuses to even try making a car that can compete with a ZL1 or GT350 on a track. The 650 hp ZL1 will decimate this crapwagon.
@basithph89585 жыл бұрын
@@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt the M2 has a purpose and the GT350 has a different purpose They are both great cars don't bring shade to them
@j.38545 жыл бұрын
Yet weighs 3700 lbs. fail.
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt5 жыл бұрын
@@basithph8958 BMW has no business calling themselves a performance car. "Sports Luxury" is as close as they get. They're in the same league with Lexus and Mercedes, who also make sports luxury cars, not performance cars.
@jordanbell44205 жыл бұрын
The 2 Series models are the only true BMW's left. The Ultimate Driving Machine is now the most ironic marketing slogan in the car industry.
@chocolatewheelchair5 жыл бұрын
You’re gettin this car for the engine performance and its exterior look imo
@parusds5 жыл бұрын
love that guy in the end!
@SigmaJAD5 жыл бұрын
I live in Scotland. Have donated anyway. In slim chance I win the car, it will be put up for auction again. Great channel, great reviews, great presenters.
@chrismunsey31855 жыл бұрын
This is the best car BMW has made since the E-46 M3 in my opinion.👌🏽
@jayman814244 жыл бұрын
I would love for you guys to get your hands on a M240i to see how you think it stacks up to the M2. 2017s can be had for around 30k now.
@bobespnza-la70304 жыл бұрын
YES!! I need a in-depth review before my purchase by the end of 2021
@jayman814244 жыл бұрын
@@bobespnza-la7030 I ended up going with a 340i, but I hope they pull through for you lol
@nessuno54033 жыл бұрын
The M240i with its B58 may be as good as the first M2 with the N55. But M2 and M2 Competition are dynamically superior and the Competition is the best at the top end.
@aussie2uGA5 жыл бұрын
BMW hasn’t been known for the typical “hooligan” drift style car. It’s interesting they’ve allowed inherent oversteer in this. It’s probably going to develop a cult style following because of it, plus it’s one of the cheapest M’s to acquire.
@tcroft21655 жыл бұрын
Inherent oversteer should be good for spares sales ;-)
@wallybal12975 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you'll read this, but I saw that you have a driving rig and you might be interested. You should check out a game called Automation. It's like an in-depth car + engine designer, where you design a car, make compromises to keep costs down, etc., and you can export the cars and drive them in another game. I'd love to see a livestream of you going through a build, and I think it would be a good jump-off point for describing a lot about how cars/engines work.
@TedwardDrives5 жыл бұрын
Constant throttle oversteer really ruins the experience. The Z4 felt so planted in comparison.
@akkando5 жыл бұрын
What about some wider tires? Only has 265 in rear.
@TedwardDrives5 жыл бұрын
@@akkando It would certainly help, and like the goose said, a 200 treadwear tire would reduce this behavior, but that's just not what I'd want in a DD/Track Day car. It really feels like a tuner car in regards to power/torque delivery.
@pballer20055 жыл бұрын
I choose Jack to be the narrator for my life.
@danielswagman14475 жыл бұрын
Does it come with a tow truck?
@andrewlee52374 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and style of filming. I wish you could have got hold of an M140i and dissect it in the way you are really skillful at doing, but I understand the M140i wasn't sold in the States.