2019 Ford Edge ST Review | Thanks, But No Thanks

[@gordonmccracken1209]

"Nobody is going to drive this thing like a maniac" - Yes they will, half the SUV drivers in the Atlanta metro area act like they are nimbly piloting a Porsche 911.

[@ATLDreams]

Facts!

[@MaestroTJS]

Not to mention the idiots who think, "I have an SUV, I can drive like an idiot when there's snow on the ground," while failing to realize they need snow tires to actually have some traction.

[@thomasnew8606]

no kidding - I have a Genesis 5.0 Rspec (429HP) and I swear every person (male or female) in 1 of the 100 different cute utes are on my a$$ all the time. Pretty sure most manufactures especially ones with a 4banger engine make the throttle response very touchy on initial tip in.

[@christophersparkman]

As a native to ATL, I can confirm this statement.

[@motopolak]

Can confirm. Lived in ATL for a year and that was all the time I needed to witness plenty of driving ridiculousness (and sheer idiocy).

[@c0Ld]

Ford's next big announcement: Ford Transit RS !!!!! AWWWW YAAA BB

[@exxusdrugstore300]

That would be 1000x cooler, and the Transit still has a better racing history

[@kyrosmike]

I love my transit, even has inverter for my wall mounted coffee maker

[@Affalterbach1967]

Ford Transit RS on Carfection kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoa2gpx5nclsoKs

[@youcanrunnaked]

You called it. apple.news/A2Hh9qPHbQZqesDZ9Dhf9vw

[@GoGoggansGo]

All ford needed to do with this car is give it the 3.0 engine with 400 and have a manual transmission as the base transmission if you want an auto it’s 1000 bucks. Then do something special with the rear diff That’s all they had too fucking do. It’s a lazy re badge that’s all it is. They didn’t do anything to the engine but add more boost & timing They really tried

[@FlyinGato]

Annnnnd Ford just revoked your media pass... lol

[@mooredann69]

Good

[@Rabidus289]

@@mooredann69 Why?

[@ZZZRaven65]

The truth hurts. They better get used to it... because this thing is going to be an utter failure. I wouldn't consider it at $30k - much less nearly $50k!

[@MoistChungus]

@@ZZZRaven65 it'll be $20k in 5 years lightly used

[@aaron5222]

@@MoistChungus lol off the lot from customers who can't stand to drive it anymore

[@EricLightbody]

"Don't insult the enthusiasts by pretending" - Exactly, this is a kick in the face to enthusiasts that could finally get excited about Ford.

[@FlyinGato]

the ST badge is dead now in the US, shame really, the Focus ST and Fiesta ST were good. RIP

[@verothacamaro]

FlyinGato it’s a slap in the face to those that bought into the brand. It’s like Ford doesn’t ever want time to buy their cars again.

[@exxusdrugstore300]

Just like the SHO badge... and SVT...

[@o0260o]

Bring the new fiesta and all is forgiven

[@jaybosher6144]

o0260o new fiesta is awesome, interior went through a major change. I would have bought the fiesta if we got the 2019 version

[@dust4294]

the Fiesta ST was not good lol

[@wampler11]

All those cheap round buttons in the center stack look straight out of 2002.

[@CSV1973]

buy used...

[@waverunner7063]

Look up the "new" Honda Passport. Looks like a 2005 especially the back.

[@ChickenC0re]

Those cheap round buttons are out of a 2008 Mitsubishi Galant.

[@Matt561]

2015 Ford Fusion has haptic feedback buttons and looks so much more premium they changed to the cheap round ones in 2016

[@bobbowie9350]

The tiny rectangle display in the IP looked parts bin when it came out. Looks positively horrid now. Typical Ford.

[@wreckless1870]

Savage, please never get rid of the mechanical aspect of this. I work on ford vehicles, and as old as it is to look under it, i love watching you go in depth to consumers on this. Thank you.

[@snoofayy6150]

@Yow Airplane Spotting god can you actually imagine

[@zakp.2759]

agreed

[@liamgray9113]

The real issue is that whenever you go fast the speedometer gets all blurry. Hopefully they issue a TSB on that.

[@timothycc711]

Lol! Good one!

[@DiscoFang]

I'm really concerned about the way the engine keeps revving and the transmission keeps changing gears while sitting at 55. Ford better fix that.

[@sir3612]

Imagine putting an ST badge on a car that will never even see the inside lane

[@iov1028]

Oh no, trust me, it's going to see a lot of the inside lane. Edge ST drivers are going to sit in the left lane at 15 below so they can really soak in the scenery.

[@EpicSlash]

I disagree. Soccer moms are maniac drivers

[@Danny13243]

@@EpicSlash Soccer moms arent buying this

[@hochhaul]

@@EpicSlash Soccer moms would see this interior and ask why it looks older than a Ford 500 inside.

[@jimbrewer5048]

Funny cuz everytime I see someone ridding the left lane it’s a dodge or some old guy in a vet

[@dirpbirp6747]

You're so matter-of-fact. It's a rare feature, and it's wonderful. It's why I watch your videos. Crap needs to be loudly labeled as such. Thanks for your honesty and integrity.

[@zzgeorgezdane8559]

If asskissing waz a sport, all these commentors are varsity for sure. No you're wonderful, ty so much. Is this shit for real, feels like a Chevy reveal ad for toy and honda owners.

[@interpol007]

50 grand!?!?!? Fifty...thousand.... And that’s USD. For 50k (Canadian) you have a myriad of choices that blow this out of the water

[@Jacobk66]

That’s not fully loaded btw, add another $2k for 21 inch wheels and better brakes

[@tossmonkey1]

So true, i dont know how anyone could justify spending that much on it, Ford are very optimistic thats for sure!

[@johnsyeats2044]

@@Jacobk66 You can option one of these to nearly 60k in Canada, starting price is about 50k.

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

Like a slightly used ctsv wagon.

[@planetstupider502]

If FORD got their act together they would have the proper personel running the show. I see American companies becoming too focused on being politically correct when it comes to hiring people that shouldn't be in the industry. Now we have quotas that you need to have so many female engineers and managers and minorities in this mix. And the result is bland unispiring products. I will take a 'Grumpy' Jenkins at the helm rather than some Christina Aquino who is really qualified to operate a taco stand. And this folks is the demise of the american auto industry.

[@caglioso]

Damn with titles like these I’m surprised he even gets tester cars. Truly savage.

[@xuimod]

The title is actually pretty tame.

[@Eric_the_Hiking]

Twenty one minutes of Edging.

[@bdg2741]

😏

[@aaron5222]

Hawt

[@michaspi]

kingsmeadow Nasty bedroom thing, don’t bother.

[@666cemetaryslut]

*Read in Mr. Regular's voice*

[@aaronbryan5095]

Savage

[@Praenuntium]

Almost 50k for this turd? What the hell is Ford thinking? Also, let's throw extra gears in without adjusting the ratios..

[@aaron5222]

It's a 8 speed the only number the marker buying this car cares about

[@FrostyCoug]

Clockwork who’s the guy running Ford now? That’s right.

[@bencrosbie]

Audi sales increase 😂

[@jcfitch3194]

That was my biggest jaw-dropper right there. How pathetic.

[@pbaker7160]

@@bencrosbie - Audi is great until the warranty expires. Have fun paying for maintenance and repairs after that point. Look up how much it costs to replace a transmission in a Q7. I wouldn't own a pre-owned AUDI if you gave it to me.

[@huntrusso]

Only car reviewer on KZbin who states it as it is. Thank you for these non bias reviews! It’s what keeps me coming back to watch your videos 👌🏻

[@Vicobop]

I am SO glad you called out the bullshit with such a direct rant. It's so exhausting to see marketing spin stuff so bad it creates a false vision and narrative of the product. It is a failure on all fronts when it has the wrong marketing. It tells a whole different story with dissonance. And calling out the fake exhaust noise was great. I noticed it when you revved it and was like "I gotta say something about this if he doesn't" but you thankfully did, and made sure to state how bad it is. So thank you. Let's keep calling them out on it. I just can't believe any company needs to hide the original sound of a V6 in the first place!

[@Vicobop]

Also yeah 50 grand, damn. Ford has been trying to overreach with SUV pricing for a while and in Canada it's a little worse than the US. It's mind boggling that people still buy into it. The Platinum trims especially are frustrating to look at because despite the near 60K tag of the Edge and Explorer, you can STILL spot the base trim's interior bits that may actually be behind the competition's interior appointments. Attention to detail to switchgear quality, more things being automatic/electric, lighting differences, all these come to mind.

[@quikgt]

Vic Yes- the last thing I need is the wife to “hear” me accelerate aggressively!

[@ecoRfan]

Even Toyota doesn’t need that since their V6 sounds so muscular

[@ATG3192]

Oh boy. An hour into work and I see a SG video on the Edge ST...ready for an extra savage dose of SG.

[@metalsteakful]

I don't care about an ST crossover, but I'm offended by the price and how cheap interiors is for 50k

[@dust4294]

i would hope that you're offended by all new vehicle prices. for how long you hang out at the dealership getting your recalls and 4 other warranty concerns fixed, every one is a rip off. Some how the auto manufacturers conned everyone into paying to advertise their poorly made vehicles. i call it blind nationalism and ego.

[@PieceOfToast420]

agreed

[@isaiahcat3523]

Ford Performance used to mean something, I hope they have not lost it...

[@some19872003]

Isaiah Cat well the only “car” they have left is the mustang so ford performance has to mean something or else they will lose out to dodge and chevy.

[@nsbioy]

They have

[@FirebirdCamaro1220]

Considering that the new GT500 is only going to have a pussymatic, I think they have

[@largeChongus97]

They still have the ST models in Europe which are doing well, the new Focus ST is hitting show rooms in the summer

[@makundananda4946]

Isaiah Cat I know, that’s what I was thinking. They shouldn’t have even put the “Ford Performance” nameplate on this car. It’s embarrassing.

[@Bbbbad724]

A tune picked up the power and dialed in the transmission to my wife’s satisfaction. She loves it. Just a buddy in service and the salesman, lifetime powertrain warranty. 5.4sec 0-60, 14.71/4 mile on 93.

[@deepdoodle1]

Man, you were so flustered making the video, the only antidote to this traumatic experience might just be a brand new blow-up doll!!!

[@VertigoGTI]

I think this might be your best review so far. Calling out Donut on this was the cherry on the top.

[@joelspaulding5964]

SG, you need a Sag card. You could be making bank with your "dispassionate demeanor" playing IT guys in formulaic sitcoms. Great vid. Honesty goes far in this business. Your constructive review style in addition to the (superlative) cinematography and sound track work make this channel THE best on the 'Tube.

[@stephenhendricks103]

First rule of business: "Underpromise and Overdeliver. NEVER the other way around." That motto should be tattoed on the forehead of every Ford executive and engineer responsible for the Edge ST. My wife and I looked seriously at the Edge Sport last year. I liked the exterior styling and the size. At 188" long it was more maneuverable in suburban traffic and parking lots than some other midsize SUV's we considered, especially compared to the humungous Mazda CX-9. Overall passenger room and cargo capacity were good compared to some other rivals, especially the much larger Mazda. No third row of seats but as a small family we could get along without the extra passenger room. I liked the 2.7L V6 twin turbo engine. In terms of straight line acceleration it was impressive. The MSRP (as I recall) was around $48K but I could have purchased a fully loaded version for about $40K. At that price it was worth considering. On the hand, the family SUV is my wife's daily driver so there were other considerations. The interior was 50 Shades of Gray. Not objectionable but nothing exciting. The dash stretched out for what seemed like 20 feet in front of the driver. My wife, a sailor, said she felt like she was piloting a long outboard skiff from the stern. For my part I found it odd (at best) that a "Sport" model had a tiny, barely readable tach tacked onto the far left side of the instrument console. We didn't select the Edge Sport but I was intrigued when the Edge ST became available. What does it offer compared to the Edge Sport? Lots of "ST" badges. A slight bump in power but slightly slower 0-60 performance due to a weight gain. An eight speed transmission whose purpose appears to be nothing but keeping up with the competition with the shift lever replaced by a dial. Finally, to add insult to injury, the same tiny, barely readable tach crammed like an afterthought in the instrument cluster. Oh yeah, the MSRP is several thousand dollars more than last year's Sport apparently to pay for the badges. I'm not an "ST" aficionado but if I were I'd be offended. It appears that Ford opted to invest its efforts and resources wholly in the new Explorer. That's sad.

[@jsfbay1]

I was WONDERING what happened to the tach! I figured it was the tiny thing on the left that I couldn't read :-)

[@ozcampnhuntdan7858]

Ford and GM are 'dead men walking', constantly grasping at straws, re-badging and compromising in design and quality...its only a matter of time.

[@williamwchuang]

@ablackprep ford doesn't get bailed out last time.

[@grantdillon1083]

People keep saying this like they’re gonna just die out all of a sudden. They’re not crap anymore. The American manufacturers have improved and they’re not going anywhere.

[@alh06]

@@grantdillon1083 What's your point? Every other manafacturer has improved at a much more consistent and fast pace, repeatedly outclassing this.

[@grantdillon1083]

@@alh06 My point is that the American manufacturers are staying, whether you like it or not.

[@alh06]

@@grantdillon1083 Ford's profit margins have gradually decreased for 7 years, they are having to shed a lot of their lineup to remain competitive. Sales aren't great, apart from the F-150, of course.

[@poker_18rs92]

Bottom line, buy the Edge Titanium & have all of the options that the ST has & you’ll also be able to use 87 Octane & get better MPG.

[@Astronaut890]

The "ST" can still use 87 octane. You just won't get the claimed 335hp

[@JakeDrives1]

I'd absolutely go this route.. Add an intake, downpipe, tune and pick up some hp and real sound. It's a compromise in a way but it's cheaper, looks better and the interior is more plush imo. Also, I bet there's not that BS sound!

[@JakeDrives1]

@@Astronaut890 "ST" is right. I like it written with the quotes. That should be a thing.

[@Astronaut890]

@@JakeDrives1 haha, agreed. I am not even hating on the car as a whole, but the badge branding is silly. I own a Fusion Sport with the same engine. I love it for what it is - a comfy cruiser with AWD capability and enough power that I get to giggle and surprise people when I stomp the accelerator. But it's by no means a SPORTS car. I would feel silly with an ST badge on it.

[@VAspeed3]

Focus ST only loses 11HP and no torque if you use regular gas. I'll glady save 30% on fuel cost (60 cents a gallon) with a power penalty that small.

[@LifeISMagix]

I can literally get a Lexus RX350 for less than 50k. Hell, I can get a used RCF for less than 50k. Wth is Ford thinking? This car should be 28k. Definitely no even close to what let’s say a Subaru Outback costs

[@MikeYFItalian]

Slowmo the market for the mustang and the edge are WAY different. You can’t compare the two at all.

[@ans05]

MikeYFItalian but Ford themselves called this a "sports car"

[@shadwblazeUSVI]

Base SQ5 money

[@tad6176]

what's so special with Lexus RX350?

[@LifeISMagix]

Tad comfort, reliability, sound system, luxury.

[@serapisbey11]

This is why I love your chanel. You always bring it raw like is supposed to be. Thanks and keep bringing such good reviews.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

My dad has a 2016 Explorer and after sitting in the Edge ST it interests him even with all of your valid critiques. But, there aren't many SUVs of it's size with a V6 and seats as comfortable. The Blazer RS is a decent competitor, we'll have to drive both. The Audi Q5 doesn't offer a V6 and has the German maintenance tax; although the interior is vastly superior. The RAV4 TRD is slower than the RAV4 of 2007, CX5 is too small and a little slow, and Porsche is too expensive. So that's kind of who this buyer is for. Not looking for a sports car, but a comfortable, low maintenance cost, 2 row SUV with a V6.

[@majorsmythe1]

And thats why I bought it. Been awesome.

[@pwrab]

Lots of torque. Lots of features. Comfy seats. Look at it as an upgrade to the Edge Sport, not a Fiesta or Focus replacement. Also factory discounts are available. I have a friend that has one, he loves it. I think it’s a decent value.

[@dfletcherboyy12]

Hey not sure if you get much feedback on this but the vehicle start up process scenes in your videos are brilliant. Just from the way the camera is always centered on the wheel with clear view of all the gauges after shutting the door tells me it must take alot of time to get it right and it really feels like im stepping into the car each time. Ford might be dropping the ball 2019 but you still got it SG great review cheers.

[@some19872003]

Oh man that’s the first time I have seen you slip out of character. Rants seem to be a very untouched segment in KZbin. One of my favorite live streamers seems to always get into a rant and it has helped him grow like crazy.

[@Ozkartez]

It made me chuckle when you mentioned the interior fit and finish, because I work in a Ford dealership and we get people come in with this complain all the time. We have even replaced complete Dash assemblies to no avail. I just say to the other techs “ what do they expect, it’s just a Ford!”

[@joewyandotte]

I have this vehicle and love it. Not perfect yet but the overall performance is great.

[@ericnguyen7061]

OMG😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love how you come up with all these random ass situations like "Me and my buddy Ronaldo were on our way to hieroglyphics class" or that one time when you was reviewing the LEXUS GSF and you were saying you dominated Gary in golf and he got so mad that he had you go and pick up his Girlfreind Tiffany and her spray tanned ass messed up the seats. I mean it's just shit like this that makes me laugh my ass off watching your channel and that's why I love it.

[@housepianist]

What annoys me is that Ford thinks this will be a good upgrade for Focus and Fiesta ST owners. Slapping the ST badge on a bloated SUV and telling me this is what I want to drive? For almost double the price? No thanks. I'll keep my Rosch-modded Focus ST.

[@apileofrocks5142]

I need blockchain ai machine learning crypto all wheel drive

[@savagegeese]

Haha amazing

[@tominator23]

“Cloud-based”

[@maldo72]

This is why I watch his videos dead ballzzzzz honest its rare in this day and age ... thank you

[@kevindust2712]

Re-branding this from the Sport to the ST simply makes no sense and was a very poor decision by Ford. Nobody that is a Ford ST enthusiast is going to suddenly purchase this CUV now that it has ST badging, unless they were already in the market for a performance oriented CUV. Anyone in the market for the best performing version of the Edge would just as happily buy it with the Sport moniker. This Edge actually dilutes the ST branding and is an insult to car enthusiasts.

[@66skate]

I think this is for the customer that doesn't want boring, but also doesn't want a true sports car either. This is a practical choice in between the 2 extremes.

[@kevindust2712]

@@66skate A practical choice between a true sports car and boring would be a Golf R, Focus RS or Civic Type R, all of which cost less to buy than the Edge ST and actually deliver an amazing blend of performance and utility. However, for the sake of discussion let's say that a potential customer needed more interior space than a hot hatch could deliver. The sportiest version of the Edge is not a bad choice for a two row crossover but why did Ford have to brand it as an ST? My point is that this doesn't follow the path set by previous ST models in their lineup and it should have just been called the Edge Sport.

[@Catuyn17]

"there's reasons to like this in lower trim levels. The doors, they open." 😮 🤯

[@Almighty_cornholio]

As a focus St owner this thing is an insult

[@762x69]

Fellow St owner. I'm looking the other way if one of these pull up next to me. Also we need 'TP for the bunghole!'

[@notmarcus421]

Same

[@josephallen8044]

It would be nice to have that engine in the focus St .

[@makundananda4946]

The Almighty Cornholio Same here. There is nothing special about the Edge ST, it does not deserve the ST badge.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Ford's CEO is taking everything down some kind of toilet. I've been in Fords for a long time. Going elsewhere.

[@hissingoose]

I’ve spent around 700,000kms in ford edges... the seats are very good, even on the SEL. Comfort when you’re doing 90,000kms/year is way more important than most people think.

[@kenm4678]

Makes me very happy to have purchased an Edge Sport 2 years ago. Only changes to the ST is badging, 20 claimed more HP, change to shift control knob, uglier exhaust trim. My 2016 has the 21 inch wheels, same motor rated at 315 but 650 RPM less, same suede insert seats. Didn't buy as a sport car version SUV, rather a long distance highway driver which it excels at. And the 2016 does not have canned engine sounds thankfully.

[@NCLme]

Lol love it...use to test drive and park these babies...and your right the Sport Sounds and loOks better. They might have ruin the ST name but I think I can fix it....hahaha maybe

[@quikgt]

Ken M True, buying a used Sport definitely the better option!

[@richardgreene6810]

Don't forget yours probably has the same canned exhaust note through the speakers.

[@kenm4678]

"2016 does not have canned engine sounds thankfully." I never noticed and have 40000+ on it. NO canned sound that I can tell.

[@griffsmotorthings]

Phenomenal review. Very in depth. I sent this to my Ford Mechanic buddy here in northern Chicago burbs. He'll probably agree with everything. Hyroglyphics class!

[@bravofighter]

I just looked on Hertz used cars’ site, I can find a 2018 4-Runner SR5 with 19k miles, loaded to the gills for $30k less than 20 minutes from my house. I don’t have to deal with a Ford dealership, there’s no bull crap, and I’d have loads more car and an extra $20k leftover to buy fuel and NOT drive a vacuum cleaner.

[@muznick]

That sounds like a great deal, except for getting beaten like a rental car for 19k miles and didn't exactly get broken in nicely.

[@carsonpatterson4576]

Buying a used anything is smarter and cheaper than new. Not siding with the price of the edge but... Any vehicle can be compared that way.

[@pooh4519]

So, 4 years later we have trucks at 70, 80, 90, 100+ K. 50 k for the ST not so bad now. Average price is about 45K for a regular car.

[@jamievidd775]

I drove a reg Edge V6 and then the ST. As far as acceleration goes, night and day difference! The ST feels waaaaaaaay faster.

[@66skate]

Sounds like what you're saying is Ford nailed the important stuff and the stuff they didn't, the customer won't even notice or forget about a week after buying. If I didn't already have new, this would be in my top 5 choices.

[@DaSubi69]

Give it 500+ HP and call it the Edge RS. I'll accept that but not this thing as a "sports car"

[@the-stig-nickname]

Gimme Edge GT 5.0 coyote.

[@billybobrogers]

The Stig that would be so awesome. I like FORD but I don’t get why they don’t push the limits of their vehicles sometimes.

[@TheExotich1]

@@the-stig-nickname how is your Persian cousin doing?

[@centripetal25]

Isn't RS associated with rally or something... still would be ridiculous branding-wise

[@whosdondada]

Will cost 70k lol

[@colderbeer]

Throw all the stones you want, but I would LOVE to have a Ford Edge ST. The Taurus SHO is history, and the ST Edge fills that void for folks needing a family hauler to have a vehicle with some extra kick when you press the gas pedal. And so what if 0 to 60 isn't under 5 seconds???

[@avlisk]

Thanks for the "no port injection" graphic. Much appreciated on GDI engine info.

[@bruakumfd2845]

thanks for your honesty, everyone else is dancing around the subject, instead of saying no one wants this

[@Huna98]

Ford needs to part ways with Lincoln. Lincolns are becoming amazing and i dont want Ford to ruin them...again

[@VAspeed3]

You know a Lincoln is a Ford, right? Like a Lexus is a Toyota.

[@blaneblue1739]

Ford is Lincoln's parent company, and Lincoln is finally competitive.. Did you even think before you wrote that?

[@directorjustin]

I love how seamlessly you go from one part of the video to the next, like it's done in short succession, when in reality it could have taken hours or days between segments.

[@Fee.1]

When in reality it very much did take not hours but days, not so much between segments as to do each one

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

When I first heard about this vehicle I knew it was all marketing hype. Nothing special here. The instrument cluster is old and outdated. Ford has overused this part to death. I've owned the other two ST's and they were great performers. I also leased an Edge Sport in 2016. It left me luke warm. Quality on the Edge was subpar. Between painted surfaces there were peeling issues. The paint on the bumper under the headlight was peeling as the lower portion of the headlight rested on it. Interior panels didn't fit well. I lease transferred out of this vehicle 6 months later. There are much better options out there.

[@kennyrmrz]

Thank you for keeping ur reviews savagely honest! This is why i need to watch every car video you make. I also love the 360 undercarriage intro to the garage part.

[@julioruata2213]

The Ford vehicles are nice but the quality construction is cheap and the reliability is poor. I had a bad experience with Ford, maybe Ford have improved it, and to spend $50,000 or $55, 000 plus an extended warranty, it's a lots of money for a Ford. Great review and thanks for confirm the poor quality of Ford.

[@andrewclary872]

The products themselves have gotten better as far as build quality, but the dealerships still suck, and put all their effort into making the front of the house look good. The service departments still, for the most part, don't even attempt to honor a warranty anymore. I had to leverage a bunch of 1-star reviews and calls to corporate to get my 2017 Fusion Sport with 15k miles in to have a front left wheel hub bearing replaced. No one would touch it because "they couldn't reproduce the problem" and "couldn't afford the time to look into it" but I could always "just bring it back when it breaks".

[@julioruata2213]

Andrew Clary Wow ! Sorry about your experience. You right the dealer services stinks.

[@En1337Rich]

This guy does a great job with REAL reviews. I was gonna look into this car for my wife this spring, I'll be skipping it altogether, not even gonna walk into their parking lot.

[@Agent77X]

Ford Edge ST still is the best two row luxury crossover under $200K! Looks better then the RRS and the interior is retro looking that is slowly coming back into vogue. It is an American assembled car and you have to expect these small imperfections. Sure you can buy the RRS SVR or Porsche Cayenne Turbo that has better parts assembling in the interior but then the auto insurance will be much more costly! So go and buy this modern luxurious Ford Edge ST and saving yourself a $100K+!

[@vodoojeff]

Dude, you're car reviews are literally the best on KZbin.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

It's a Ford Fusion Sport on stilts. How's that selling?

[@TassieLorenzo]

Cars on stilts are what people want (e.g., Porsche Macan). Why shouldn't Ford play in that area? :)

[@hunterbawlz]

@@TassieLorenzo Because the Porsche Macan is actually good, and the base model Macan is around the same price point. Not to mention, the Macan sub-models (S, GTS, Turbo) get progressively nicer and more exciting. This is dogshit. A poor crossover to compare to a Porsche.

[@cdwag23]

@@hunterbawlz what is the point in fast suvs besides getting timmy and the groceries home from soccer practice. Certainly not driving pleasure

[@cloudforest4087]

This was brutally honest. Thanks for laying it down. Your research and knowledge is so informative. For $50k I would better get a car. I wouldn't mind seeing SUVs in circuits and such, if that's where they are going. Such a shame where trends lead the market.

[@johnsyeats2044]

I'm not sure I really get the performance angle here. An Audi Q5 (that actually starts a little cheaper here in Canada) will at least match the Edge ST to 60, with a much better interior for good measure. And you can option an Edge ST to within a couple of grand of an SQ5... I just don't get Ford's pricing on performance models. The Focus RS flew off the lots at 50k here, then Ford bumped it up to 60k overnight for the '18 model and suddenly it wasn't selling because now it was in the same price bracket as cars like the Audi S4 or a nicely optioned BMW 340i. Insanity.

[@f181234]

John Yeats sq5 is like 80k in Canada loaded

[@jacyedwards4452]

Even the SQ5 starts higher than the Edge ST can be loaded. I considered it and the BMW X3M40i. Either the BMW or Audi without the performance package will depreciate MUCH faster than the ford and your stuck with a German car with German car reliability issues + cost of ownership.

[@gkr2424]

Well we bought a 2020 and like it. Main reason was to flat tow behind our Motorhome, V6 twin turbo power, comfortable seats, lots of interior space. It’s been trouble free, transmission does clunk into drive occasionally but still under warranty. So it checked all our boxes for a flat tow vehicle.

[@valpanig]

Todd is outstanding with his IT solutions , loved the sweater !

[@TexasScout]

My God! The roads salt. Thank you so much for your honest and straightforward review. I’m glad you don’t pull any punches.

[@calebmelton8254]

For that price,I'd buy a slightly used SRT Grand Cherokee. I feel like its sooo much more sporty than this ever will be.

[@rorybuszka2215]

I bought an off-lease 2019 Edge Titanium recently, and it does what I want. It's got a nice feature set, and it looks nice and has good appearance features/decent handling, and I went for the 20" wheels with nice tires, but it's still modest - it's not what I would call a modern "luxury" SUV, even my parents' 2018 CX-9 has more comfort and features. But the Edge is practical and feels more than nice enough for me. It was a responsible choice at its price. The 8-speed makes more sense with the 2.0T I think, because it provides enough ratios for acceleration. The 2.0T is so quiet, I have trouble hearing it to hear what it's doing unless the audio system is off.

[@acekc83]

The ST badge on the Edge is like having the S-line badge on an A4. For the price you pay, you could have gotten a real S4. If you look outside of the CUV market, 50k would get you a lot. Golf R, S4, Boxster/Cayman. If you look used or CPO, you can do even better.

[@ferenc-x7p]

True, but Ford cannot make anything like a Golf R or S4, because the Golf R and S4 are available. They go the safe route of selling an SUV or Cross utility whatever they call this soap box, because 2018-19 are the golden age of SUVs all over again, until the next oil price gouging hits.

[@meiermotorsports]

i appreciate your brutal honest on the review and the deeper look into the car then other reviews.

[@madebymawhinney]

This comes the same day as I saw (in Australia, mind) an ad for the new Focus ST hatch and Focus ST Wagon. This Ford Edge ST should 👏 not 👏 exist 👏

[@mjyumping]

Oh, you are talking about the Focus ST-Line, not the real ST

[@mjyumping]

@SirVixIsVexed should be Germany

[@TEDdotcom]

It’s made for gullible people.

[@sunbeam8866]

Compared to this thing, I might get excited about a Focus ST wagon! Is it available with a stick-shift?

[@willyd4850]

You have the best channel on for reviewing vehicles. Thanks for your honesty and no bullshit approach.

[@willyd4850]

*on KZbin

[@HALWG51]

The Edge is a fine car for $30,000. It's a horrible car at $50,000. The same with the Explorer. A $35,000 Explorer is a decent car. A $55,000 Explorer is ludicrous. Oh, and guess what. Golf clubs will NOT fit crossways in the trunk of the Edge. It's too narrow. So getting 4 people and their golf bags in the car is next to impossible. Again, that's just ludicrous. That car looks like it belongs in the rental car fleet.

[@fatboy19831]

The all new RWD Explorer is nice. It is still far too expensive. Ford wants to sell its cars and trucks for BMW prices. They are shooting past their customer base and not pulling in new ones.

[@thisistheway2996]

I have started watching your reviews recently. The audio, video and technical content quality you guys deliver is beyond excellence. It is really enjoyable! Thank you for all the good work!

[@SavagexRaccoon]

We lost the new focus ST and Fiesta ST for this 50k junk? Loose plastics and terrible interiors? The new Rdx is a much better value than this turd

[@MetalPhreakAU]

You can usually disable the fake engine noise using ForSCAN (or dealer's proper Ford tools). Not really an option for most people though. Should be a menu option or just get rid of it completely...

[@paulm6481]

I take the Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT over this front wheel drive turbo engines CUV.

[@hoodman420]

Add 50k to the 50k tag for the edge and you have a SRT Jeep.

[@raftika1]

Your Jeep won’t last more than 50k miles before something big comes up... my coworkers had to have his tranny replaced on his 2016 Durango SRT at 40k 😂

[@OutEastLI]

Raftika that’s odd since Dodge didn’t start producing the SRT Durango till 2018

[@raftika1]

jbbart *RT

[@NotARealUTubeAccount]

@@raftika1 Are you implying Ford is having good luck with the reliability oftheir twin turbo powertrains? lol

[@A.ChristopherJohnson]

Always a pleasure to hear you bro, this is my dream SUV, and the fact that Ford Performance has an SUV driving great school aswell !!! Rocks !!!

[@adobewanjerkobi]

360 camera at 6:03 gave me the most powerful woody. Godspeed sir, you’re an artist.

[@NeutralGenericUser]

savagegeese, I gotta say, I absolutely love your niche in auto journalism. I love your attention to details. Who else talks about the underbody? Who else takes the time to look up gear ratios and compare them to the old model? Who else talks about weight distribution and gives us numbers? Not to mention the photography, and your commentary (including your stories about soy lattes). Just absolutely incredible work! If the border reopens this summer and you're back in the Toronto area, maybe I'll get a chance to meet you. Take care, and thanks making these informative videos!

[@quietguy1948]

I'll stick with my 2019 Hyundai Elantra Sport... $23k of honest quality and fun. Ford's blowing it.

[@dougn2350]

Did you get the manual transmission?

[@RobTheSamurai]

All US auto makers mark up the msrp so that when you go to the dealership you see a huge “discount” and think your getting a great deal. I think you’ll be able to get this thing for around 40 k brand new if you look for the lowest bid from dealerships.

[@opl500]

I dunno, the interiors are not flashy from Ford but they are comfy, long term. They wear well.

[@luckyluke5638]

Thought this would be another 20 minute rant about it being a SUV but I turned out to be pleasantly surprised. Great video quality, thorough analysis, and a good balance between personal opinions and unbiased points of view. I can feel you *wanted* it to be good, not just see Ford fail at something. Also, the tone of your voice is simply perfect. One of the rare youtube channels I can watch while tired with a headache.

[@Kittievr]

I'm been waiting to hear your take in this lol thank you

[@donnymac575]

Glad you hold no punches and tell it like it is in all of your reviews.

[@gladdy02]

he pretty much said "thank u, next" #savage!

[@acacium]

Incredible reviews. Cinematic. Thorough. Honest.

[@drewbee5920]

Mark, very clever how to strategically tiled out the speedometer at 14:19 while passing the 50 MPH speed limit sign. No need to self-incriminate ; )

[@DiscoFang]

While the engine is climbing and it grabs 3 more gears.

[@BSchoon55]

Probably about the harshest overall review I have seen savagegeese do. Everything he said though is absolutely true and I completely respect that. It's one of the reasons I always come back for the next video. I like some Ford products... mainly the current generation Mustangs and I know their trucks and some SUVs are okay. This absolutely is not okay though. Good review as always.

[@MrMartena56]

I cannot stress this enough, but SG is the ONLY automotive channel people should watch when considering a new car. Everyone else is just pretending.

[@thetinysideoftiny7625]

FOMOCO has mastered the art of low-rent interiors. I’ve owned a few Ford cars over the years and the interiors scream “vanilla ice cream rental car”. My 1995 Sable LS (the better trim level) was an ocean of monotone beige plastic. No chrome, wood, no detail work...it was literally one solid chunk of beige. It felt like an unsavory 1980’s Taco Bell inside. Based on the new Ranger, Edge, and others - not much has changed.

[@jeremytd7072]

I once owned a ‘13 Focus ST (loved it) and recently the dealer sent one of those marketing/sales letters telling me I could upgrade to something new. Was it a new ST? Nope. Was it an Edge ST? Nope. Wasn’t even a regular Escape. It was a damned EcoSport. WTF!?!? If this is how Ford wants to get their car owners to move up they’re screwed. That outro though. 👌🏼

[@marktodd4479]

One of the best reviewers on youtube. love the savage.

[@stephanoya]

As an owner of a Fiesta ST, I am disappointed to see Ford watering down the Ford Performance line with shit like this.

[@marshallperry5153]

I just recently purchased this vehicle. It’s a 2019 with 8500 miles on it. I appreciate everything this guy has said in the video. However, I do believe he missed some points that points towards the vehicles upside. For its price range, you wont find another vehicle in this category that has the features of this vehicle. Panoramic sunroof, lane assist, blah blah blah. It’s decent on gas, it tows a decent amount at 3500 lbs (Good enough for a 20ft pontoon with trailer, which is what I will be towing, but would recommend the trailer having its own brakes). It’s also pretty to look at. The 21” wheels are a must imo it really looks great. Also, vehicle has a high predicted reliability. The negatives? Definitely the transmission. It was clearly not as focused as I wish it would be. But if your not gonna push it to the limit and whip corners...its just fine but yet noticeable. Vehicle is quick though! Another is the sound system. I was excited for 12 speaker premium audio, but its not good. It’s not premium. But it does the job and is right around average car audio quality maybe a bit better. Vehicle is fun to look at, fun to drive for non enthusiasts, and is loaded with features. The reliability aspect had me signing across the line as well. You can find one used with low miles for much less now and I’m happy about my purchase.

[@mjcmustang]

I agree 100% about insulting the enthusiasts for sales. As a Fiesta ST owner and as someone who has driven the new Edge ST. The Edge ST is a joke. Not worthy of the badging or any sporty intentions whatsoever. All of these SUV intentions Ford has, is gonna come back to bite them. If they just retained the "Sport" trim name instead of the "ST" I'd be much less offended by it.

[@drlosero]

"Sport mode with a dial shifter..." too funny, awesome vid as always.

[@TheBonsaiZone]

It gets worse, the Mustang Mach-E is coming!

[@OlandoMcCall]

First review of this kind I've seen! Fantastic, subscribing.