Is the Ford Edge ST a Dumb Idea?! - 2019 Ford Edge ST Review and First Look

The Ford Focus RS,Ford Focus ST, and the Ford Fiesta St are all gone. It's a shame that Ford isn't going to make cars anymore, but they've also taken a drastic turn in a different way. This is the new 2019 Ford Edge ST crossover SUV that will join the ranks of the new Ford Ranger and the rest of the new fleet. It's a twin turbo charged,all wheel drive, 2.7 Ecoboost V6 in a sporty SUV that I was skeptical about. Why get rid of such great cars and "replace" them with an SUV? Well I don't think replace is the right word. It's just timing. So with the skeptical mind I went out and drive this bizarre performance SUV that claims to take on cars like the Porsche Cayenne for a cheaper price. Is it worthy of the ST badge? Let's find out. Thanks for watching!
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[@ThatDudeinBlue]

Even though I know this car is going to be very split on opinions, I did have an awesome time driving it and I have an autocross video coming - this thing DOMINATED. I was incredibly against this car when I flew out so it was cool to get a feel for it. What do you guys think of the Edge ST?

[@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC]

Im still perplexed by Ford ditching those cars. Maybe its a location thing but here in So Cal there are tons of Fiestas, Focus and Fusions. Its not like they are not selling. Nothing wrong with a performance SUV (you should try to get some time in an BMW X5M) but there are still bunch of people that want CARs not SUVs. SUVs are sort of the new Minivan and there were and still are many people that WILL NOT BUY a minivan.

[@albertjr.cholico8846]

I'm gay for you bro !

[@rick-hj3jg]

*wanna know how to make it perfect? Bucket seats, 2jz swap, lower it, wide body and it's perfect 😂👍*

[@ulisesanchez147]

ThatDudeinBlue The one concern I have is not the SUV part of it or performance because yes it makes sense with the way Ford is going. The big concern I have is that an ST has always been a manual. And even the head of Ford Performance when he came in Jay Leno to show the Focus ST a few years ago he even said ST’s only come in manual. And I get it in today’s world especially in North America manuals are dying and thats just the world we live in but. The ST line just like Si line for Honda was made for car enthusiasts and I guess its sad to see them go from there core. Yes the performance is there but it hurts to see that they did away of the stick and three pedals. I know for sure it’s a great car just disappointing that some of it is gone.

[@ulisesanchez147]

mike mims The reason why theyre is because it just isn’t financially feasible for them to continue making it. When they looked at their financials they were barely breaking even with there car market and the SUV, trucks and mustangs were the only thing that was making them business. And if you know anything about financials breaking even is still a loss.

[@Trussme96]

They should have just shoved a Coyote in the new RWD Explorer and called it a day.

[@kylemoore9627]

ShoryukenDatAzz that would have been awesome

[@bestmillimeter1858]

The 3.5 Ecoboost is a much faster engine in an equal car. The 3.5 F150 is a much faster truck than the 5.0

[@Trussme96]

Yes, but I and most others don't care. We like fun noises and burnouts. 90% of driving is done under 60 mph/100 kmh and V8s will always feel and sound better at low speeds.

[@bestmillimeter1858]

@@Trussme96 Read any review comparing the 3.5 and 5.0. The Coyote is a torqueless engine off idle. The EcoBoost has power throughout the entire powerband. The only thing the Coyote has going for it is sound, reliability, and a lower cost.

[@Trussme96]

Ok, thats fine. I want a V8 in my SUV.

[@inerceptor]

Loaded Focus RS-$42,000 dollars = win. Loaded Edge ST - $53,800 dollars= fail. I will be 47 years old in December and when we start talking nearly $55,000 dollars there are a lot of other vehicles that I would consider first for me and my family. I’m more of a performance sedan guy. I find it hard to believe the majority want a SUV.

[@mrtomhack]

no one who wants a performance anything wants a suv or crossover.... and if they did there are much more appealing options for the price they want for this a durango r/t,X3 M40i,amg gla 45,amg glc 43,macan s or a bunch other options would come first in some ones mind not a kinda quick ford edge.... they basically shot them self in the foot by killing all of there performance vehicles besides the mustang and then replacing them with some thing that is lesser then what there competitors offer in a similar price range

[@michaelzepeda5785]

55,000 for a ford?! Uhhh yea no bye 👋🏽

[@bttawfiq]

I hear yea man, for the same amount of cash I would rather get a Cadillac CT6 with the basic 335hp 3.6 naturally aspirated V6 that runs on regular gas, it is classy, comfortable and has the brand name

[@rotart12arx3]

It won't be 55k. The base price is 43k and there is already a $1000.00 rebate on it now. With discount you can get the base ST for close to 40K. Later in the year the rebates will be higher. You have to click off every single box including things you don't need to get to mid 50's. Well equipped it will be in the mid to upper 40's.

[@scotthopkins2235]

@@rotart12arx3 yeah........no. You add the performance brakes to make sure this thing stops and it adds on a full package that sets you back an extra 8k so now you are looking at 50k! Lame that the brakes this thing should have standard are only available in a package that is 8k.

[@KyoKyoM99]

At the end of the day, it’s still an suv. No suspension tuning or engineering can get rid of the sheer weight of an suv. Straight line speed aside, extra weight is a very noticeable negative in a performance vehicle. I can understand the appeal of a fast suv, but not as a replacement for a hot hatch. I suppose from a business perspective this makes sense, but I just have this suspicion that this edge wont sell as well as they are hoping.

[@riceetr1260]

KyoKyoM99 I would Agree with you but it doesn't weigh that much , 4400 lbs for an SUV is not heavy, fusion sport is almost 4200 lbs . Look at challenger weight , a lot of cars weigh as much or almost as much nowadays . Apparently if this thing handles as well as he says weight isn't too much of a factor

[@RCXDerp]

Fusion is a boat my MK5 golf r32 is heavy at 3400

[@KyoKyoM99]

Rice ETR I understand your point, but you even said “for an suv.” And yes, 4400 lbs is pretty light for an suv, but its still an entire 1000 lbs heavier than the focus rs and wrx. And David did say that it handled pretty well. And I forget who it was that said it, but more power makes you faster in a straight line, and less weight makes you faster everywhere. But its not just the weight, the center of gravity of an suv is inherently higher. But our American mindset always prevails lol. Bigger is better. Maybe it will work then, because perhaps the reason people buy focus and fiesta st’s is to get a hotter version of a car they want. And I’m sure the edge sells pretty well, so a hotter version could sell. But the reason people have such a bitter taste about this is because they’re scrapping all their existing cars. Idk whenever the next oil crisis hits, all the gas guzzling suvs will end up in scrap yards and small cars will come back.

[@KyoKyoM99]

Rice ETR Also I have an ‘82 Toyota Celica. It’s sub 2400 lbs. Not sure how much because its stripped out behind the driver’s seat. Talk about a light, fun little car lol

[@AE86FTS]

@KyoKyoM99 this is a car based, unibody crossover, not a truck based, body on frame SUV.

[@FizireYT]

Long story short Ford just killed their cheaper fun car enthusiast market

[@benmackey8777]

Not in Europe though😁

[@danielsummey4144]

Have you ever paid for an ST? It’s not like the Fiesta and Focus were cheap. And even as inexpensive as they were, NO ONE BOUGHT THEM.

[@FizireYT]

Daniel Summey You just contradicted yourself by saying they aren’t cheap and that they’re inexpensive lmao I said CHEAPER not cheap smart ass and really? because just the other day I recall driving by a focus only meet with at least 30-40 focus STs in one city I don’t know why you’re so butt hurt there’s plenty of people that bought them I see at least 5 different focuses or more a day in my area Ford cut them because the majority of their market comes from parents or others that want family cars

[@FizireYT]

Ben Mackey Yeah you guys get all the cool shit lmao

[@nyxsyn]

Apparently that market wasn't bringing in the money for Ford in the US. So, I'm pretty sure they don't care. I have seen zero fiesta ST's near me and just a hand full of focus STs and I live in a major city.

[@conanmagruder]

The new Bronco seems more enthusiast oriented since it will have a manual.

[@AE86FTS]

Not to mention that it is an actual body-on-frame SUV that will be great offroad rather than some cookie cutter crossover that parents buy because they are too insecure about owning a minivan or station wagon.

[@Silkmaster4200]

Hopefully not a front wheel drive driven most the time like the Edge and Explore. Should be the same as a pickup drivetrain. Jeep Grand Cherokee are rear driven most the time like the pickups are. The small version Jeep Cherokee is like the edge drivetrain. Which i not a fan. I do like edge though lol.

[@AE86FTS]

@@Silkmaster4200 Ford confirmed that it will be based on the Ranger.

[@TheCrazyBird844]

We’re a little disappointed, but if they’re getting rid of the fun little cars, at least they’re bringing some rwd based ones. Ranger/Bronco, and next explorer. Maybe the next edge will be rwd, or a new smaller escape sized rwd car for the replacement of all these fun small cars.

[@freedom24v86]

Its based off the ranger platform so 4wd Body on frame Probably ifs but definitely solid rear 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@worthlesstrash3704]

They died for...... A Ford edge st? Really. Yep they are doing a Mitsubishi.

[@Blaza303]

"Press button to make Mustang Crossover"

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

I was privileged to talk one of the engineers of the vehicle and it wasn't meant to replace the RS and ST - it had already been in development when they were killed off. It is unfortunate timing though. The thing is a beast in autocross.

[@SDPTheGhost]

Nah Mitsubishi is in a whole nother world 😕

[@KBow]

The difference, though, is that Ford has the most sold vehicle in the U.S....the Ford F150.

[@sklew]

They actually are making a mustang crossover. Look up the Mach One

[@DasPryo]

Nope, I’ll keep my Focus ST thank you very much lol

[@knifelover73]

DuckHead Moto exactly how I feel. I have a 17 ST2. And this. In comparison. Seems pathetic. An ST is suppose to be a performance car. Not park itself and auto stop for me.

[@jimbabwe8070]

I would never even want an SUV I'm happy with my focus st

[@knifelover73]

Pokey ive done more construction work in my ST than most people with short bed pickups. And hauled 5 people plenty of times. So their excuse about the extra storage and family car abilities are kind of invalid. Lol

[@JackofAllMasterOfnone86]

Same here. This is double the price and no manual....nope. I have 2 kids and they fit perfect in my fost.

[@Reckless40]

I’ll be keeping my ‘17 FoST as well. I’ve already grown tired of this whole “Crossover” fad. If I want a SUV I’d want either a Jeep or truck based SUV.

[@Hunterbw93]

Sports cars turning into SUVs, manual transmissions disappearing, and with electric cars on the rise it's kind of depressing being a car enthusiast these days. Putting a v6 twin turbo in a soccer mom crossover. like I'm gonna roll up to a car meet and break necks with my wicked grocery getter...i hope this bombs

[@stevebuscemi3622]

We are a dying breed

[@anthonyagosta8431]

does no one want there wifes car to have some balls as well?

[@Unusedcheetah29]

Nobody can afford this that can afford a real ST or wants one, they are cutting off ties with the enthusiasts. Most enthusiasts do not want a giant SUV I want something that looks good and drives good with a manual transmission. VW has the whole hot hatch market in the US now. I don't think I would even consider Ford anymore to buy a vehicle from. I will go elsewhere for a cheap performance car because Ford has disappointed me.

[@AndrewSVO]

they are not cutting off ties, they are trying to remarket their "Sport" models to ST models because essentially that's what they're supposed to be.. As for the hot hatch market, there's the Corolla XSE and the Civic Si Hatchback..

[@Mk5_Life]

they arnt on the same level as the gti tho

[@Unusedcheetah29]

@@AndrewSVO A base Corolla? Not a hot hatch, and they do not make a Si hatch.... Yes they are cutting ties. They no longer make affordable, fun sports cars for the mass market. An ST could be had new for as little as 15k, at that price you could purchase 3 Fiesta STs for the price of one Edge "ST". A base Mustang is 10k more than an ST. Ford was one of the few people making affordable performance cars and they cut ties with people that wanted the great options Ford had. They were killing it before and I was glad we had an American company making sports versions of all of their cars. They got rid off all of them besides the Mustang and I am not buying an SUV as someone who likes going around corners in a nimble and reasonably weighted car.

[@Unusedcheetah29]

@@Mk5_Life They are direct competitors to the GTI. 200-250hp hot hatches with a manual transmission and great handling with the typical hatch practicality. The GTI might be more luxurious but they are both great cars in the same price point that compete directly

[@djhero0071]

There’s bound to be SOME enthusiasts that have kids or have actual use for the space in an SUV. Sure, it might not be your cup of tea but fuck it. It’s at least here for someone.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

I think the focus was the better design and overall the better car. The edge is cool but soccer moms will not be into the ST

[@TampaSupastar22]

MaxSpeed bullshit soccer moms love to go fast lol, remember this comment when you have a soccer mom all on your ass blowing the horn for you to move out the way 😂😂😂

[@eskietjr2022]

They should have kept the RS instead

[@jimbabwe8070]

The RS and st did not sell well in the states mainly because a 50 year old man is not gonna buy a st or RS over a mustang GT and kids now a days don't know how to drive stick or want to learn I never new how to drive stick until I got my st

[@patricks.7951]

I gotta disagree, heres why. Soccer mom wants a crossover, goes to dealership. Soccer mom likes the Edge, but soccer mom also is great financially. Soccer mom asks salesman, "What's the nicest Edge?" Salesman shows soccer mom the ST (knowing this will bring him more commission than even the Titanium trim), soccer mom notices it's more expensive than all the other Edge trims. Soccer mom thinks to herself "hmmm it must be the best one if it cost the most." Soccer mom gets the loan and drives off the lot, not knowing or caring what ST means. Unlike the Fiesta and Focus ST, there isn't some super aggressive recaro seats and a stick shift greeting her when she opens the door. So I think plenty of middle class suburb moms will buy this car.

[@luisestefes3411]

Soccer dad's* lol

[@TeamEpsilonRacing]

No Focus/Fiesta ST owner will move to this. They will all go buy WRX’s.

[@TheMaxpoma]

well I did and have heard of so many others hahah so u are wrong bud. This smokes my focus st in every way.

[@boostedn1409]

I did too lol I love my Edge ST ...probably would beat my FOST even with my e30 tune

[@baileyf1998]

I'm a Fost owner that will not be getting a edge. I've never known anyone that's bought it since it came out. It's to expensive for the market that bought the focus/Fiesta ST and for the money 40k you can get way nicer vehicles like the 4runner/Tacoma while also for the price it's not fast. The focus RS for the same price is 1sec 0-60 faster than the edge not to mention all the other options at 40k like the camaro, Mustang, WRX Sti, 370z among many others. There is just to much competition at that price point compared to the focus and Fiesta ST where you could get into one for between 17k-24k.

[@boostedn1409]

@@baileyf1998 For some of us practicality matters. Driving an RS around is not nearly as comfortable as driving the Edge ST. The RS has a notoriously harsh ride compared to any ST. That's okay and too be expected when buying an RS however that doesn't fit everyone's need. Also NO ONE PAYS MSRP FOR A FORD and if you do you're dumb AF. I paid 33 for my Edge ST after incentives.

[@boostedn1409]

@@baileyf1998 For the other cars mentioned again, some people like the practically of owning an SUV especially an AWD SUV. You get performance and practicality with the Edge ST. As you grow older you really start to see the benefits of owning a grocery getter :). I got two kids and they fit comfortably in the back seat and I can get all our stuff when we travel in the back. With the 93 tune I just put on my edge I'm at a 13.53 @ 102 mph. Thats not even the best time out there with tunes only. There are some people running 13.1-13.3 with better lauches than me. Put in corn and you're in the 12s. It gets up and goes while holding its own in thr twisties too. I've gone on several mountain runs with FOST friends and I'm not left behind.

[@mintyfreshphotography7120]

Three words: Mitsubishi Eclipse SUV

[@mkkeable]

You mean the eclipse cross?

[@danny02463]

Stop, I just ate 🤢

[@Clit_Yeastwood]

I seen one of those in Australia the other week, my initial reaction was “Holy Jesus, what is that?? What the FUCK is that??”

[@bassdakro969]

I just heard about the edge st literally 2 days ago.

[@derrekmcfarlane7872]

I worked at Ford and they told us a while back. They are also making a explorer st

[@bassdakro969]

@@derrekmcfarlane7872 oooookaayy

[@derrekmcfarlane7872]

@@bassdakro969 don't believe me? The new explorer is gonna be rear wheel drive, I'm not sure if the st will be. It might be awd

[@derrekmcfarlane7872]

www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/amp/news/2020-ford-explorer-st-400-hp-and-rear-drive-future-cars

[@bassdakro969]

@@derrekmcfarlane7872 huh, okay then, well it doesn't matter to me because I'm living in the UK, I just heard about the edge st at auto car. But that was interesting to know thanks for the news.

[@TheRangerman00]

Ford Edge ST is just a rebadged Edge Sport

[@JARface11]

Rangerman00 yeah they should’ve kept the sport name on it.

[@TheRangerman00]

Jordan Rude I’m just wondering how much the price changed by putting ST badge on it

[@colbymartin9317]

Yep i agree 100%. These cars are hella expensive these days. 55k for this. I’ll get a SRT Durango or something for that much.

[@keyvis949]

It’s not but please continue

[@kevinatfms]

It is the EXACT same truck. My wife drives a 2015 Edge Sport and it has every single option this new ST has and had them 4 years ago. There is nothing new on this thing besides the paint and a badge. This is a failure on every level.

[@jacobsiekmann426]

Kinda seems like a slap in the face to Focus and Fiesta ST owners. “Your car is equivalent to a SUV now”.

[@AE86FTS]

This is a car based unibody crossover, not an SUV. True body on frame SUVs are USUALLY much better off road and for towing.

[@jacobsiekmann426]

Initial Wii Leymans terms it is an SUV. That’s what the general population will see.

[@chriscastor1101]

I'm cool with it

[@AE86FTS]

@@jacobsiekmann426 it sucks to the humble SUV like the Jeep Wrangler and Toyota 4runner because marketing companies put the name "SUV" on what is essentially a lifted wagon.

[@ikebuttle360]

Jacob Siekmann UK is much better for hot hatches, we’ve had performance fiestas and focuses since the early 2000s, the US only got the mk7 fiestas, missed out on so much, I drive a mk6 fiesta, my favourite looking one

[@barrydraeger1892]

I know I'm in the minority here, being an old guy with kids and a 2016 Ford Edge, but I actually like it. The Ford Edge ST isn't necessarily a dumb idea...Ford ditching most of their cars is a dumb idea.

[@jrag1000]

A Car company with no cars is the dumbest of dumb ideas, you'd think they hired Hilary Clinton as their CEO...

[@rotart12arx3]

I have owned 2 Edge's, 2015 and 2018, and they are quiet, ride well and even with the 2.0 liter they have some power. Get the sport and you really will have some fun. I agree Ford getting rid of the Focus is stupid, unless the Skyactive Focus comes over from Europe. The Taurus didn't sell, Fiesta didn't sell, Fusion will go a few more years. The difference from our thinking and many that post here, it that we have owned them, while most of the people here have not. They bash almost every review on You Tube and will never own one or anything like it.

[@Gearbhall]

It is not that I have a problem that they are making an ST trim of the Edge, it is that they are taking away the cars. As a Taurus SHO owner... I put money where they are saying there isn't enough.

[@scotthopkins2235]

Yea......I have the 14 Focus ST and a 17 Fiesta ST. I feel like Ford took a big crap on me by dropping both of the cars I have and was thinking of a new focus ST to replace the older one. Now I'm looking at the veloster or the gti. Ford can suck It with their SUV's and CUV's. ST or not it's still a SUV.

[@RCXDerp]

Yeah I don't know if this as good of a long run decision they think it is.

[@Gearbhall]

RCXDerp exactly, watch as a gas crunch happens again because of some stupid middle eastern war and everyone starts wanting fuel-efficient cars again... and Ford won't have any.

[@RCXDerp]

Veloster N looks pretty cool at least haha, they hired some dude from BMW to work on their cars.

[@beatersho3497]

yes... i own a 93 SHO and the discontinuation of the taurus made me quite mad

[@xrlxmayhem9875]

The reason they are killing the cars is because they can sell the suvs and trucks for a lot more. The problem I think ford is missing the point that sales will fall as people flock to other brands to avoid the SUV and Truck premium prices. Everything coming out of ford lately is getting really expensive.

[@catmario9947]

Lol soccer moms, people that has families and married guys buy suv and trucks even more than cars here in united states , don't blame ford for it they are just go with the flow with the other companies blame the people that wants more space more than speed

[@Sercumference]

Ford might have nice vehicles but they are expensive af

[@catmario9947]

@Richard Skipper Lolz good luck with that transmission once it reach 100k miles

[@Dolby109]

xRLxMayhem - this was my analysis as well. I feel like Ford just thinks everyone will be brand loyal and be forced upmarket to an SUV. But there are still plenty of people who don't want to compromise fuel economy and handling for off road capability that no one ever uses. Those people will jump ship and move to one of the many other brands still offering sedans, hatchbacks, and wagons. CAT MARIO - this isn't 1992 anymore.

[@catmario9947]

@@Dolby109 dosent matter if it's 1992 or 2018 people will buy cars that has more space and capacity here in united states and that's a fact even single people will buy suv because they need for their lifestyle

[@Jose-el6gi]

They just pulled a Mitsubishi

[@zachmockett7566]

Mitsubishi makes a sporty and fun SUV?

[@turnip5465]

@@zachmockett7566 he's reffering to Mitshubishi killing the Evo and making it a Crossover

[@zachmockett7566]

@@turnip5465 hardly relevant or a reasonable comparison. Mitsubishi is somehow keeping the Lancer here for now, but the Evo only existed because of the STi and overall it was quite pointless to their business. Then they didn't make the Evo into a crossover, they built the all new Eclipse Cross... Which is entire unrelated to the long past Eclipse, simply a returning name which is also easy for the business.

[@turnip5465]

@@zachmockett7566 I'm just telling you the joke I didn't make it up lmao

[@AE86FTS]

@@zachmockett7566 Actually 2017 was the last model year of non Evo Lancers.

[@DBuTTs1091]

As a focus ST owner........ kill it with fire

[@josephallen8044]

Couldn't agree more !

[@P1TV]

The package is somehow interesting. But I dont like the look of it tbh. - especially the rear is ugly. Im glad I live in Europe at this point. I'd never change my Focus RS Mk2 and Fiesta ST Mk8 for a Performance SUV. Are prices for used Focus RS and Fiesta ST are going up now in the US?

[@junioralvarado2384]

P1TV sts have always kept there value pretty good. us yankees love our hot hatch backs lol

[@SteveRecFPS]

Slightly, our ford dealer has 2018 RS's listed for 64 (red) and 63 (blue) thousand (CAN), they previously were at 62 and 61 thousand.

[@fatmac8480]

Yah the rearend looks terrible , it looks like every terrible mini suv since 2005 from the back

[@KevinGofficial]

The prices are actually pretty low for used ST's in the US right now but mustang prices might be creeping up

[@Crob56]

Kevin G they aren’t getting rid of the mustang dingus

[@VAspeed3]

Who knows if it's a good idea? It cant replace the Focus RS because there is a HUGE performance gap. It can't replace the Focus ST because there is a HUGE handling and price gap. Current ST buyers are unlikely candidates for those reasons, IMO.

[@ChampionBlueRacing]

As much of a GM guy I am I will miss the Focus ST/RS and Fiesta ST, they were the only Ford's I really liked apart from the classics, Shelby Mustangs, Ford GTs and Australian Ford's. But I am so far liking the Edge ST..

[@BananaSlothGames]

Ford the only car company to never go bankrupt, until now.

[@TeeOG]

Blame that shit stupid asshole Trump for those import tariffs.. Simple as that..

[@josephallen8044]

@@TeeOG what are you talking about,my St was made in Michigan

[@sergeantspeed5941]

@@TeeOG lmao you're so salty over a president who's doing good. Were you this mad about obamacare? That dickhead president of yours has made history as far as UN and NK go, and has the balls to challenge China who basically owns us, but you're mad because your poor fanboy self can't handle a company cutting corners forever and can't afford to compete anymore and are doing damage control? Wow. And I'm sure youre a Hillary or Burn supporter, both even more moronic than the race baiting, apologetic bitch obama who LITERALLY showed submission to the middle East for 8 years.

[@TeeOG]

Actually, most of Fords cars are actually assembled in Mexico.. So it was probably built im Michigan and than shipped to Mexico to be assembled there. For probably about, 10x cheaper on labor pricing.. Also, people from all over other country's buy American cars and vice versa lol. The Mustang is probably one of the most popular muscle cars in China. And there sales where HUGE. Just as Focus and Fiestas are also very popular in EU.. And how Hondas, Hyundai, Mercedes, Bmw. Etc. are all popular in the US. Its the same shit.

[@djhero0071]

You don’t think Agent Orange isn’t bending over backwards for the Middle East?

[@MattChristie]

I have a 16 Focus ST, lease is up in July but I want to buy it out.

[@ryadhasanahmed5443]

Do it you won't regret it👍

[@josephallen8044]

I love my 2016 St , she gets a big turbo next year.😁

[@diegotobar6839]

Nobody is gonna take a Ford Edge ST to an Autocross event. I just don't see it happening.

[@adrianswan3643]

Your 99.99% right. Theres always that one werid guy that brings it for shits and gigs. But I agree with you

[@StarlancerAstro]

Bleh... I'd rather buy a used Focus ST, I do not like SUVs. Pretty much done with Ford anymore (besides Mustang), keep trucks, trucks and cars, cars

[@kbdadriftking]

Manual or bust

[@mopedmessiah]

My mom bought a Toyota CHR, it has a auto stick but you can move it over to manual mode. You move it off to the side then bang up to go up and down to go down. Thatd fit so well in this

[@SMU_3L]

Lol, come to the UK, Focus and Fiesta ST aren't going anywhere haha

[@RikkiSan1]

I swear the US market for cars sucks... and I'm an American!

[@user-jb2pj3yd6o]

No thanks Eurotrash

[@benjamin8558]

The US is just FWD sedans. I want what Australia has

[@vteckickedin2365]

yeah over here in australia we have some mad cars, but that's dying fast. holden decided to turn their commodore into shit and the falcon is a thing of the past. Its quite sad. Europe and Japan imo are the only places in the world where in the next 20 years will still have a somewhat cool market for cars.

[@benjamin8558]

Yeah ik.

[@CalMUK91]

You do realise the ST and RS's will never die in Europe. We have had them for YEARS and will continue to have them. The Escort RS Cosworth is a pure British icon and honestly I had a picture of one on my bedroom wall since I was young. The day I got a ride in one was a dream. My dad owned a Sierra Coswroth too and that thing made ALL the right noises.

[@claudio_wrx]

Ford: American Mitsubishi

[@petergonzalez9948]

WorldRallyBlue_WRX more like Chinese

[@Krozhin]

Front looks like a Volvo copy

[@dean8067]

Not completely. At least they still make the Mustang GT, Ford GT350, GT500 (Soon to release). Whereas Mitsubishi just made away with everything they had that was sporty or nice.

[@Flydevice1]

Why are people saying Ford is pulling a Mitsubishi?

[@megasimp1024]

JJM 05 they killed a ton of cars and are focusing on suvs more

[@redbaron4578]

at least Ford is not killing the mustang, but at least keep the Focus St and Rs and the Fiesta St

[@RCXDerp]

Ikr I really wanted a new fiesta

[@aymanbarakat186]

Honestly everyone says they want an st but all the dealerships around me are full of them. I went to look for an ST and there was one in every color. The salesmen told me no ones buying them.

[@MickeyR6]

@@aymanbarakat186 it's the same problem with the RS we couldn't even sell them at MSRP they sit at dealerships so long.

[@AE86FTS]

@kevin ocampo don't forget the Taurus SHO.

[@redbaron4578]

Initial Wii who cares?, if it had a manual option I’ll considered it

[@chrisorion3156]

50k for this?????? Nahhhh

[@Its_Me_Romano]

Hey man I recently discovered your channel just wanted to say I absolutely love the content keep up the amazing work👍

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

Thanks dude!

[@redboneqt70]

So, I am a 48 year old grandmother who owns a 2013 Ford Edge Sport. I love my truck and I've been waiting for the new ST cuz it's time for granny to get an upgrade!! When they hit the dealerships, I'll be there to put the ST thru its paces!! I'm not an enthusiast but I love to look fabulous in my car and to go fast while doing it!!

[@zafirhussain7221]

I never considered the Edge an SUV and I still don't, crossovers to me are just lifted cars to give people that "High road presence". Unless they have Off-Road Capability (even tho most people will never take them off roading) I consider them SUVs.

[@AE86FTS]

This is not an SUV, it's a crossover. SUVs are truck-based body on frame vehicles and crossovers are unibody car-based vehicles. SUVs are almost always better for towing or off-roading (although there are some exceptions). Crossovers also hurt SUVs. In fact only 16 (9 if you count badge engineered variants) true SUVs still sold. They are the GM SUVs (Chevy Tahoe and Suburban, GMC Yukon, and Cadillac Escalade) The upcoming Ford Bronco Ford Expedition/Lincoln Navigator Jeep Wrangler Mercedes Benz G Wagon Nissan Armada/Infiniti QX80 Toyota Sequoia Toyota Land Cruiser/Lexus LX Toyota 4runner/Lexus GX.

[@hemi300c4]

Owning a 2017 Edge Sport which is the predecessor to the ST. I love it. Great performance, comfort, ride, room and technology. I'm not happy with Ford pulling the plug on their car in the US, but I wanted an SUV and the Sport checked all the boxes I was looking for. Now with the ST, Ford has added a few more ponies and offers better brakes as an option. You need to look at this vehicle from all perspectives. It's a great SUV that performs well, handles well and people well while adding good looks inside and out. Luxury features and after test driving several other brands of SUV's. The Edge was an easy choice at what I feel was a reasonable price with all the amenities included in an SUV that runs 0-60 times around 5.6 seconds

[@TheSaucymuffin]

I had a blast out there driving the Edge ST with you and everyone else. Still amazed at how well it out performed my preconceptions of it, especially coming from a Focus ST and my current RS. Definitely dividing the car world and it will for sure surprise alot of people!

[@OAK_MTN]

Gotta love the fact that it's likely to be banned from autocrosses because it's center of gravity is too high...

[@sdtower]

So there’s a chance of an RS version as well, also maybe the possibility of a manual transmission option too. That would be interesting to see it lower wider lighter and with more power and a MT! Oh and supposedly the RS would actually have real torque vectoring instead of just breaking inside wheel like an ST.

[@derekvachon1911]

Edge ST sucks! As a Fiesta ST owner I can firmly say Ford has shot themselves in the foot by killing off their car line.

[@danbuczak4984]

I just bought a 2021 edge st and absolutely love it. Wish I could do more mods without voiding the warranty. Only thing done is a cold air intake and made it noticeably better and sounds great.

[@lespaul71492]

I understand why they built this we as car people have always understood companies build "for the average non car person" car so they can make other more fun cars, but the problem is now they are trying to make the "for the average non car person" into "non car person"/ car enthusiast cars to please everyone at once. that just doesn't work if make a to please everyone its going to fail because nobody is going to completely happy. the cars will always be something you have to make an excuse for, like this car is a lot of fun... for a cross-over instead of the car just being a lot of fun.

[@RCXDerp]

The mustang is still good I just don't understand them trashing the focus and fiesta entirely as they were pretty cheap.

[@tbird1028]

in summary: Yes.

[@thegreenbean6500]

I love how he’s listing off performance SUV’s and he doesn’t even mention the king, the trackhawk

[@tacbear]

Well I'm glad I got a 2018 Ford Edge Sport (Fully Loaded) for $39,992...basically the same vehicle, oh the ST has 3 more gears, different springs, 20 more HP and red calipers--Fully Loaded $50,000+

[@jakerichardson1545]

Yeah yeah twin turbo this and all wheel drive that but seriously good luck selling an SUV like this to a car enthusiast and good luck getting a regular person to shell out an extra couple thousand for performance that they don't care about. Bad move in my books...

[@kevinatfms]

Literally been out since 2015 and called the Edge Sport. They took the truck, slapped ST badges on it and are charging a premium. Failure because they are trying to monopolize on the ST brand by recycling the ST name on an existing model and toting that its "brand new" when it is not at all.

[@nickkilmer7371]

While my RC car is charging, I need something to do. Instead of normally crying into a pillow, I noticed you uploaded

[@hypergarage8595]

Reverse Gear best comment I’ve seen in a while.

[@pickmandaily]

I own a 2015 Focus ST and love it. If I were able to afford an SUV at the moment, I would have no problem taking a serious look at the Edge ST. I think the concept is fun and practical. Being a big Honda fan, I have to say, Ford is winning me over.

[@eckmann88]

I have a 2.7l Ecoboost on my F150 and LOVE it. It’s a badass little engine.

[@escoofimpakt]

The edge st seemed like a cool idea but its still not fast so as a sort of sporty SUV I'd rather go with the Forrester only because there's so much 3rd party support especially from subiespeed. You can customize a Forrester way more and make it your own compared to any other smaller suv

[@danbuczak4984]

2021 and up are 6 second 0-60 not bad for a 4500lb machine

[@njx1993]

It wouldn't be a dumb idea if Ford wasn't killing off the other ST cars. The marketing behind it, and its purpose is dumb because they are touting this car as the successor to both of those, and the biggest problem with with that is its price point; it starts higher than a fully loaded Focus RS.

[@user-jb2pj3yd6o]

Fuck da police,straight from the underground,bitch hatin cause a nigga skin is brown

[@everythingautomotiveeta5839]

I'm not a suv guy. I drive a 2014 mustang. But I really like that the option of this exists its a real good thing

[@gamerfallout]

I’m a fan of Ford but more importantly, I’m a car enthusiast. The Edge ST is a very odd ball thing that probably won’t be that successful. We as car enthusiasts have to remember at the end of the day, for millions, a car is just transportation. Its not anything more. This is Ford showing us that they still care. From a business perspective, it only makes sense. Most people now are buying up SUVs. I had one salesman tell me that they were buying SUVs from the auction to sell because they couldn’t keep them on their lot. Sales for the RS and ST unfortunately weren’t where Ford wanted them to be. The regular people buying regular cars is ultimately who pays for our toys. I wish the Edge ST luck. It will need it. P.S. I love you David. A heart would be lovely 😊. Keep doing you.

[@a.b.2897]

Interesting idea, bad execution.

[@ayyblyat9450]

agreed

[@space.cowboy69]

Hey Yey performance american suv? leave that one to jeep and dodge. soon to be chevy with the all new blazer. the trailblazer ss is snappy as fuck too. ford just cant do anything right anymore.

[@Ragingxplorer92]

@@space.cowboy69 Chevy literally discontinued the trailblazer a long time ago and the blazer looks like a disappointment just wait til the explorer St comes out it'll give the dodge Durango srt a run for its money and it'll set back Chevy and gm another 10 years since the traverse is literally a pos and the blazers just gonna be a rebadged traverse or equinox

[@eclypse3d]

can you expand on "bad execution"? i.e. why

[@kirbyswarp]

I think its a good execution of a shitty idea. Crossover=inferior vehicle for hitting curbs in the Target parking lot and backing into poles. Turning one into a "performance" car is a terrible idea.

[@Locallybuiltauto]

Don’t call it a ST if it isn’t manual only

[@TurboDoggo]

Guitars Creed Exactly!

[@ItchyNipp]

Was patiently waiting for this video...as a focus st owner I'm glad they at least came out with SOME type of semi performance vehicle. Also I really hope it's easy to modify and run more boost !

[@Jstall7543]

I have a 2013 Edge Sport and I love it! I’ve got 167000 miles on it now and I’m about the upgrade to the Edge ST! I’ve had Zero problems, brakes, spark plugs, tires and that’s it!

[@BlueCollarExCalifornian]

I think Ford needs to do a 700 horsepower version of the Edge called the the Razor Edge and using a heavily overbuilt version of the 3.5 Twin turbo Ecoboost V6.

[@C.oleCarson]

Just slap the Ford GT engine into there

[@BlueCollarExCalifornian]

Cole Carson Yeah basically but Ford should at least make the engine strong enough for even greater power. If Ford actually built it, it would be stupid of them to price the Edge to Cherokee Trackhawk money and it be slower.

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

Ugh. It's a piece of shit AWD minivan with the ST badge and a decent engine slapped in. I have an Escape with the Duratec V6. I like the engine. But it's an Escape. A front wheel drive soft roading blocky minivan. It is not an enthusiast's vehicle no matter what you do to it.

[@johnshukeireh5804]

UGU Zach do you even know what a minivan is?😂

[@RCXDerp]

It looks like one though too soft and passive looking

[@AE86FTS]

@@johnshukeireh5804 While these vehicles claim to be SUVs, they are not body on frame and not good for off road driving or towing, so they can not be SUVs. They are CROSSOVERS. Crossovers can be seen as minivans without sliding doors or a lifted wagon. So he is right when calling the Edge a minivan.

[@Ac3Mustang]

Its AWD tho....not FWD

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

@@Ac3Mustang I was referring to my 2010 Ford Escape, which is in fact front wheel drive, further proving my point about it being just a glorified minivan.

[@TheYellowsvt98]

I think one of the things we always forget, as car people, is that most vehicle are purchased by non car people. I think if I was in the market for an SUV, I would definitely give this one a look.

[@MrSquid-vy2ik]

Since Subaru don't wanna do turbo SUV so it's perfect timing for Ford to do the ST SUV.

[@nickstance]

I blame this bc they discounted the Ford Crown Victory

[@space.cowboy69]

ford is just a total joke at this point lmao

[@Antspray1]

They were killing it a little while ago. Now they're just.. well killing that.

[@coreysnell9222]

Trev_ST how does that even make sense 😂😂😂😂

[@timber2633]

Corey Snell With our getting to political the tariffs are kind of harming car companies that use factories outside of the country. While that on paper is a good thing. Maybe they will bring factories into the US. it’s super expensive, and more than likely they will just stop importing all together.

[@deathcrashtest64]

They're killing it in europe though except for the 1.0 engine which are literally dying due to corroding parts lmao.

[@TeeOG]

Damn bro, you live under a rock? Makes perfect sense, if you knew how trade works globally lol..

[@WAFFELTIME]

Performance SUV, America stop liking SUV's so much #bringbackthewagon

[@pattersonperformanceconcep6986]

I just bought a 2019 ST today and I Love it...I have 3 kids and need space...its nice to have the power and the refinement. I came from a 2014 edge sport and maybe the ST is a glorified sport but for a daily driver and to have some fun with the power why not...

[@shinymarshtop2]

Give me a heart David, I love you

[@alexstromberg7696]

"focus, gone. Fiesta, gone." Only on the US tho, we in the rest of the world still have them

[@RCXDerp]

He said that if you listened, along with the Taurus SHO with the raptor engine and Fusion Sport with the 2.7tt.

[@alexstromberg7696]

@@RCXDerp i made the comment before he said that because there are so many American KZbinrs that just so "ford has stopped making cars" and skip the "in North America" part

[@jasjeetgill7373]

You are right man people complain about companies discontinuing these cars, but they never buy them like wtf! Tbh the numbers speak for themselves, SUVs and crossovers have been selling more in the past years. So makes business wise

[@WelshyAutomotive]

Can you imagine if it was 6 speed manual in like an ST-S trim, with like stiffer suspension and quicker rack? Magical.

[@Jakeserra]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe ford said they were going to keep the focus hatch?? Idk. Maybe I’m just sad cause I’m 15 and want a focus st but ya know now it’s gonna be collectible so it’ll be to expensive

[@Coasterteen22]

Ehh, I wouldn't be too worried. Ford made plenty of FoST and they're not exactly appriciating at the moment (you can 2018 ST1's new for 19k in certain areas, which is a steal) I don't see them really becoming collectible any time in the next decade haha

[@S2kTi]

Yeah dude you're fine. Focus st is not gonna be appreciating any time soon, if ever. The cleanest examples may hover around 12-15k for a few years at best and that's it.

[@wrifraff]

They were originally going to still be importing the Focus Active crossover from China, but that was recently cancelled. So the only new Ford car to be sold in North America is the Mustang.

[@Trussme96]

I think I'll buy a Durango R/T instead.

[@zachmockett7566]

Yea because someone going from a Focus wouldn't find that to be a massive size leap... Way too big.

[@toyotabrony]

ShoryukenDatAzz Or Durango SRT8.

[@Trussme96]

Those are like $70,000 with no options. For that kind of money, I'd rather get a Luxury SUV.

[@zachmockett7566]

@@Trussme96 highly agree. $70k? Porsche Macan it is!

[@Trussme96]

@@zachmockett7566 I'm thinking more Lexus RX350 FSport. If I had 70k to spend I could afford an actual sports car on the side for the weekend.

[@digitaldriver614]

Now I like the Idea of the Edge St, a affordable performance esk Suv. But I would have rather them let the St name die with the focus and Fiesta the best examples of the name. And name it the updated sport.

[@tomcougar1086]

Great review. Informing & entertaining AF. Love the vehicle, and I've been closely watching/reading many of its reviews. I've put a deposit on a loaded out one that's inbound from the factory, & look forward to trading in my '16 Edge Titanium. Thanks, David.

[@HeyBigChriss]

yes it's a dumb idea. A Edge Sport with some ST badges and aggressive styling. No manual, no fun. You will get no attention in this car, enthusiasts will not buy this car, this is not a ST.

[@bloodykills7509]

Ford is trying to make crossovers fun and there is nothing wrong with that.

[@xtracoolconcepts]

You're right, but the problem is that it's at the expense of the hot hatch.

[@pocketsjuicy3444]

Obv you know there is something wrong with that

[@alexstromberg7696]

Why not just make a wagon

[@xtracoolconcepts]

Alex Strömberg braindead normies don't like wagons

[@alexstromberg7696]

@@xtracoolconcepts wagons are the best shit, if my car had a nice looking wagon version I'd buy that instead of the sedan I have now

[@limitbreaker0000]

A fun to drive, big car, 4 door / suv , practical car is a good idea to exist! Its the reason I have a Lexus ISF, i wanted a four door fun to drive daily car. Last week I drove a Ford Fiesta ST for the first time at an autocross and I was very impressed by how much fun a ST car from Ford was! They could be on to something.

[@KhanJoltrane]

I think this is the ultimate car for a young couple. Performance & practicality that doesn't break the bank. I think it will be a hit.

[@kylemoore9627]

Seems legit for what it is. After owning a Focus ST and now an RS, i would totally get the Edge ST if i needed a fun SUV

[@mr.2cents.846]

Two things on the refresh I don't like. First the face. Now it looks like a blown up Focus. The last year's face looks sportier. More dominant. And the light bar on the back is gone. Imagine the Edge with 450hp and lowered with 18" deep dish rims. Garnished with a cool tasteful front spooler.

[@whygodrums10]

I bought a '17 focus ST a year ago. I've had a Mitsubishi Starion, Porsche 944, R53 MINI Cooper S, and a ZHP BMW 330 before this. (all proper stick shifts) My Focus ST is my favorite car I've owned. A year late Ford gets rid of all of their normal cars.... I guess that sums up why all of my previous cars were not American.

[@realtalk8898]

I like it when people refer to themselves as car enthusiasts because they drive anything with an st badge on it.

[@VG22.]

I'm genuinely into this type of a vehicle and I'm excited for the future generation of ford edge ST's. Ive got a mercedes GLE 43 am in the family and that thing is a hoot to drive. It has all the space a family of four needs it can do a little bit of off roading like just a little bit, it sounds amazing it is decently fast and handles well. Basically it ticks all the boxes, The ford edge is for someone who has a family and doesn't have extra money to spend on a weekend car. This edge ST is my everyday dream machine for $50,000 fully loaded. Im sure ford will come up with a whole bunch of improvements for the following generations to come. All it needs a dual mode exhaust and a few more ponies. Great Job Ford ! On the other hand the Dodge durango SRT is a great alternative to this vehicle it might be $10,000 more but then you do get the massive V8 under the hood of the SRT. Two brilliant american alternatives to overpriced yet fun options from germany and italy (alfa romeo)

[@greg123168]

I have one on order and cant wait for it to get here!!!! and kudos on you driving it and being able to talk at the same time...I have an explorer sport...the true allwheel drive sport...and when I drive it hard I have a hard time carrying on a conversation and driving.

[@andyjohnson9905]

I have had an ST EDGE on loan to me here in the UK. We only get a 2.0LTR Diesel engine and I have to say it hopeless. I was fairly excited when i was given the keys from the hire centre but my excitement soon wavered!! The performance is shocking, it would not pull the skin off a Banana!! I cannot wait to get my Land-rover Discovery 4 back from the workshop.

[@vashusan1984]

I'm the exact market for this vehicle. One car, wife and two kids, I bought an STi. 2 car seats no prob, all wheel drive and spacious trunk. Besides so much lighter and fun to drive.

[@alyssacampbell6155]

I have no doubts that the engineers really kicked this project in the teeth and nailed it as best they could, I just fail to see where a car enthusiast will settle for an suv when hatchbacks can do most of the work horsing you need. We will have to see how Ford markets this model.

[@austineurich4]

A nice exhast and a tune and this would definitely be a nice all-around car sure

[@nicka4284]

Focusfest people were asked to check this car out the same day you did, (big guy named Lou) and they said the same things; it's a serious performer, able to take beating after beating and still push it more.

[@travisshanafelt610]

the only thing i dont like about performance suvs and performance trucks is you cant get anything in a manual anymore. glad that more are coming out on the market though

[@Davido50]

Owned 2 Ford Edge SUVs. Not an ST. Excellent SUVs tho. 1 was 3.5L V6 other was 2.0 L Ecoboost. Highly recommend them!

[@fisbruj]

I am getting one in Feb. I have owned many BMW's, Porsches, Aston Martin, but now my radical car days are over and I just need a roomy ride for my pup and golf clubs with a little performance now and then. I have no illusions that it will drive like a Porche Cayenne Turbo S (which I had a few years back), but I no longer want to spend that kind of money. We'll see how it goes.

[@jimmyeuqid1693]

Definitely looking at these in the future but I’m curious to see if Chevrolet responds to ford with their version of the blazer with a SS model hopefully

[@405maxter]

This is gonna be an absolute beast with an ECU tune

[@FirstNameMattheson]

Idk why ford insists on making garbage transmissions it’s the game changer nowadays

[@trevorfaulkner946]

Don’t forget about the OG focus Sedan ST from 05-07. I have an 07 and it’s an awesome car. Most people only think there were only hatchback focuses until the edge but forget about the OG ST lol

[@milesmack6788]

The reason that the ST may do that is acctually for gas milage, many new Subarus stay on the gas longer so the throttle is more smooth and the car achieves better gas milage

[@mkkeable]

I feel happy for VW now, they own the hot hatch market in the US right now, I feel like they are really underrated cars there.