2019 Porsche 911 Carrera T Review | Why All The Fuss?

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Production values on par with Motortrend and absolutely no pressure to hype stuff because it’s new.

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@rockn roll without camisa I agree. Oh man Camisa and the geese need to hook up. I'd like to see that.

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Definitely better music

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*Above Motortrend and the likes It's that damn good

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@Potatoblues I completely agree with you. It’s a shame Savagegeese’s channel is not yet reach one million subscribers😰.

[@18echosf]

I’ve been driving Porsches for 40+ years and this may be the best video I’ve ever watched that really explained the reasons to own one. Even the negatives that were mentioned are positives! Great video! P.S. I raced motorcycles for 15 years and tracked Porsches for 8 years...........I’ve always driven the base model Porsches as my daily drivers. I don’t collect cars........I only drive them. So, for me.........if you enjoy driving, a Porsche is the finest everyday car you could own. Yes, a bit expensive, but it gives you the best of all worlds.............performance, great handling, comfort, usability, and fantastic reliability. As the saying goes.......Nothing Even Comes Close!

[@fmartin59]

Do you mind me asking what you think of the new Supra?

[@thomaswelcomer8443]

So... curious what you think of Porsche (pre-VW) and Porsche post??? Was the marriage BETTER for owners or....????

[@dtschlack]

...and that's exactly why I will be getting one and there's a very good chance that it will be a base model! Update: Got one and it's an S!

[@utubecomment21]

@@thomaswelcomer8443 ​ Pre - Post, they're all unreliable. I remember back in the 80's, my friends dad had a 911. When I asked about it, he went into a rant about how cr@p it was, and finally he ditched it for a BMW 944/924 Less said the better. I've known a lot of people with these including two of my landlords, and my boss .. who when asked replied "It goes fast ... sometimes" It was always at the shop being repaired. *The Worst Case* was my brother and my cousin who both bought their cars around the same time. My cousin was smart and ditched his as soon as the bills came. My idiot brother carried on and was greeted regularly with £2,000+ bills, a whole load of issues, a blown engine at just over 60k ... and afterwards, a continued slew of unreliability, parts falling off when driving, and more of those lovely £2,000+ bills. After 8 year he ditched it, but by then it was worth less than his socks. And Nick Murry (channel) after two disasters, he wants back in. There's No Fool ... -Like An Old Fool- Like Nick Murray! So VW or Porsche, What matters ore is how deep your pockets are and how much time you're gonna be spending arranging a flatbed truck ... yet again, calling the service centre and getting no reply, some sales manager expecting you to kiss his feet because he says: "we'll do it as a courtesy as its not under warranty" as though you got the car for free. And if you're in the UK, good luck with the Porsche UK head office, 'cause they REALLY don't give a f**k!

[@hazardeur]

@@utubecomment21 what you talking about. i am sure they have a standard package that gives you a 3-4 year warranty at Porsche. if you drive any sportscar without warranty, it's your own fault. I drive sportscars since 10 years and had a lot of repairs but always covered by warranty

[@HandsomeAlex25]

Another great piece. I actually love that Jack and Mark disagree about whether the 911 is worth it's price. It's refreshing to see car reviewers not just idolize the 911, but take it for what it is, and evaluate based on how it actually makes you feel. Thanks for the insight, and really looking forward to the GT3 video!

[@sephiros9883]

HandsomeAlex25 you're 100% right. Not only do they disagree but they explain why and respect each other point of you, which is just all the more information for us the viewers. It's a fantastic video.

[@Jasongy827]

HandsomeAlex25 I know right, like there is no wow factor of the car model, he explains it for what it is, directly.

[@mattsomeonewithansrt3948]

For 105 grand.. uhhh no. I’ll keep my hellcat and work truck for less than that. I’d say for 80k this car is a buy. But for 100 with no wow factor. That’s a pass. Hell you can buy a new C8 Z06 hardtop convertible with a auto lift and a good selection of options for that price point

[@mattsomeonewithansrt3948]

If they make that variant.. You could buy two brand new C7 Corvettes for that.

[@BrandoDrum]

Funny, I've long felt Porsche's were incredibly over priced and essentially over-rated. However, my dream car is a 997 Carrera 2S or 4S because at $35-45k for a lightly used example they are actually a fantastic deal. Even at that price range though, you can afford far more powerful and probably more capable performance cars brand new off the lot. If I had 100,000 bucks for a new car I'd be hard pressed not to buy the new Audi RS6 Wagon lol. That car truly has everything I want and seems actually reasonable price-wise given it's overall performance, luxury, refinement and utility.

[@TheMegaLarsen]

Stuttgart is in Baden Württemberg, not Bavaria. you wouldn't call a Tesla a Detroit masterpiece.

[@RamCruiserOverland]

Thanks for being that guy so I didn't have to.

[@bainyt727]

Like mercedes

[@quentonmillstid850]

German is Germany

[@MrCarGuy]

I'd much rather look at nicely done physical gauges than a shitty LCD display that will be outdated shortly.

[@chrisselner5005]

Imagine how much an oem replacement custom screen will cost

[@Dance1617]

AGREED

[@mlee6136]

@iamspyvspy I'd still take the "crappy" red gauges over the crappy LCD screens that are overly bright and annoying anyday.

[@GuyGamer1]

We've kind of hit the limit on display resolution. Displays won't look outdated nearly as quickly anymore.

[@MrCarGuy]

@@GuyGamer1 Who said anything about resolution dating displays. Most current displays still need resolution increases but the thing that will date current displays is the image quality: Specifically contrast, black quality, viewing angles, vibrancy, etc. Unless automakers use expensive OLEDs it'll be a while before the cheaper tech catches up

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I think other channels address the short attention span the most people have. Hands up, I get through a few minutes of an Autogefühl review, and I'm fast forwarding to the driving part. Usually I can't stand the fact that half of a Top Gear, Auto Trader, Auto Express, Carwow, Autocar, MotmanTV, MotorTrendChannel ... reviews nowadays focus on infotainment systems, cup holders and boring "Quirks and Features". But no one really gets technical, because they're all focusing on marketing.

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@@juststuff5216 The simpletons of the world are having a field day. Pretty much everything today is targeted at them - they make up an overwhelming part of the consumer base and very little effort is required to satisfy them.

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The best reviewer on KZbin hands down

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[@revaholic]

I love Mark's analogies at the end about how this is an excellent car but slightly unemotional, whereas many people want a car that is more flawed but highly emotional

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I agree!

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Love those Illinois 108 mph speed limits!

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They cut in footage from the dash that was taken during an impromptu trip to Mexico.

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@D.O.A. Mexifaux.

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ah,i was wondering. looks like wisconsin.

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Life in the cornfields is underrated

[@danielmelendez9943]

The speed is an ongoing official research, so technically it was not speeding but rather engine stress testing.

[@takuan650]

Love the clean simplicity of the Porsche design, I never get bored with it, and the amazing reliable predictable drivability. I would not need more than that to enjoy driving.

[@Amc825]

Jack's best review....he is in his element when he geeks out about tech stuff.

[@Whotta]

The best, realistic, most relatable car reviews on KZbin. Keep up the great work!

[@ingor.3405]

I think the 911 is a very good used car because the loss of value is low. The 997.2 Carrera S is my favorite 911. Greetings from Germany

[@bcab7955]

I'm on board with that's statement, 997.2 are the last shrink wrapped 911 before upsizing to the 991.1 and was blessed with great engine in the S.

[@hellatightdude]

For me it’s the .2 GTS if only just for that sexy wide rear end. But I agree, 997.2 is the best (watercooled) 911.

[@FreestylerAlbert]

loss of value is low? Sorry but I don't agree with that. Cayman GT4 in europe lost a lot, 991.1 also lost .. etc. Look the current 992 price. super wide range

[@hellatightdude]

FreestylerAlbert 911’s absolutely 100% hold their value much better than other cars in the same segment.

[@ABeans07]

If anything value holds or increases on 911’s

[@SGspecial84]

This is the best car review I've seen on youtube. Real intimate details about the product. Everyone else glosses over these details and focuses on how "cool" they think you'd look driving the car, or just go straight into drifting. I LOVE that you guys took the car up on the lift and explored how its really built

[@danielboyd7810]

The problem with having a modern porsche as your track car, weekend warrior, or what have you, is everything is basically an engine out service and repair. Very difficult to maintain as they get older which in my opinion, makes the affordability of it a bit of a myth

[@TheChannel1978]

Affording to own is one thing, tracking is another

[@basithph8958]

This video is just beautiful I love how you went into so much detail in this video and the quality of it so good This is why Mr. Geese is one of the best on KZbin

[@steveurhegyi4384]

Gentlemen. I’ve owned a 911T for 18 months and it’s been fantastic. But....it’s now up for sale. I’m 60 y.o. next month and my tastes/needs have changed so I value comfort (with quality) higher than performance (with quality). So you’re both right - this is the best ‘all seasons’ performance car, but it depends on where you’re at as whether or not it’s right for you. Incidentally, my next car will probably be an LC500 😉

[@steveurhegyi4384]

Gandalf721 I’m in the UK 🇬🇧 so it’ll only work if you are too (Or Eire I guess)?

[@jigsawroadster]

First of all, top shelf video as always. As an engineer, Porsche fanatic and track rat I can relate to this video on so many levels. I've been reading and lusting after the 911 since a young age but have never been able to afford one. Thanks to Turo I was able to sample a 991 Carrera S (March) and more recently the 991 GT3 (September) and realize my Porsche dreams. When I sampled the Carrera, honestly I felt completely underwhelmed; a case of meeting your hero. During that trip we had an F Type R and a Bentley Continental GT as well. The Porsche was flat out boring compared to the Jag and paled as a DD compared to the Bentley (obviously). The Porsche was certainly the precision tool in the group, but was also as Mark said, sterile and very basic for the money. I did not see the value, especially coming from the Jag which had an absolute sense of occasion about it. The Porsche listens and does what you tell it to do, the PDK was superior to whatever (ZF I assume) auto the Jag had. But the Jag was sexy, it was loud, the interior had more luxury. The Jag was a sledgehammer to the Porsche scalpel but it was thrilling every time I drove. The Porsche was only thrilling in the twisties and otherwise a fairly mundane DD. I also did notice some turbo lag, in a DD environment most will not notice but in something like autox I can see the 0.25s delay and non linear power annoy me. The GT3? Perfection on wheels. I do think you need some track or performance driving experience to truly appreciate this car, but otherwise I cannot recommend sampling or owning a GT3 enough. The best OEM, non racecar I have ever driven. In fact it felt closer to a race car than a street car. The sound at 9000rpm with a BBi exhaust, the communication through the steering wheel, how damn solid it felt after 23k miles and the throttle response were unreal. The GT3 is worth every penny. This time we also had a GT350 and C7 in the convoy. The GT350 is the best mustang I have ever sampled. I can't tell you the GT3 is 3-4x better than the GT350. The C7 is hardly worth mentioning honestly, fast but nothing special or exciting. But if I had the money and it wasn't my last dollar, the GT3 is what I would take home. Every. Damn. Time. Meet your heroes.

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[@theanthonyv]

Great video. Really dig this channel and the partnership with Tri. I own a 911 T as my daily driver. It’s pretty damn flawless and very practical. You don’t sit in the car as much as wear it, like a crafted Swiss watch. It’s also a very fast car, which isn’t really mentioned in the video. If you keep it in the rev band, you have all the usable torque you could hope for and that great Porsche flat 6 howl. So, it’s easy to drive it with visceral emotion. And the car can handle that spirited driving 100% of the time while remaining reliable very day. It’s an amazing car, and I can’t think of anything else for 100k that offers rear-engine grip and fun, with beautiful classic looks and bullet-proof everyday high performance. It’s a bargain at that cost. Congrats to whomever wins this one.

[@iamshevanel]

I can literally listen to these two all day. Easily the best automotive channel on yt. True enthusiast perspective, with the deep technical details for the engineering addicts, and a good sense of humor. Keep it up boys!

[@ObsessedGarage]

Very well said Jack. At 13:54, you explain my exact take on 911 vs. something like a C7.

[@jackh7550]

Obsessed Garage it’s sad but true. I’m glad you agree.

[@letsgobrandon416]

The problem though is, I can aspire to own a Corvette - if only a used one. Even used 911s are out of reach until they are so old they start becoming expensive again.

[@mperformance3502]

That sounds like a personal problem

[@hlshcd]

The most technical and mechanical car review on KZbin! And the best cinematography among all car videos. I never see any other guy using a fisheye lens to get the greatest view under the car.

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[@roywebster400]

Well, I just bought a 2018 911T with 4700 miles and in a manual. It's my 7th 911 since 1979. My last was a 2012 GTS4 and it was wonderful. I had a 2008 C4S that I found out after selling it was a real one of one car. RS Orange, Factory Aero, Ceramic Brakes, Sport Seats and a LOT more options. MSRP was $125K in 2008 and it wasn't even a GT3. This 911T is gonna be my new favorite. My first 991 and its the 991.2 with all the updates. I still have a 1975 G Model Carerra with 21000 miles that has been relinquished to "show duty" only as it become too valuable to drive around because of wearing all original paint. "Porsche, there's no substitute"

[@michaeljordon704]

2:18 "Winner of JD Power Initial Quality Award of Open Heart Surgeries" lol

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[@dandingerat]

You guys are freaking great, thanks for supporting such a great cause and always giving the best, most objective reviews.

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[@jeffwarren1547]

"Ischemic colitis from unsatisfactory ride quality." LOL

[@hardwoodlegacies]

Is there anyone better at doing this KZbin car review stuff than Mark? His 4C review is still one of my all-time favorites. LOL at his commentary on Peter "the doctor". Hilarious! As for the Carrera T, I didn't keep mine long. I just couldn't get past the 7MT and the exhaust note, both really subpar. Decent car for the money though now that the prices have dropped a good bit.

[@melondoc]

One of the best reviews of the T I've seen. About the emotional aspect though - I've been fortunate enough to have cycled through a number of interesting and emotional cars - including an NA1 NSX and a CTS-V Wagon MT. Most recently, I sold a GT4 and went to a T (around the same time I started going to the track less). Most internet commentators would scream bloody murder for trading ANY of those cars for a T. IMO, these cars are great "first, second and third dates", but they wear on you over time -- GT4 too stiff and low for crappy canyon roads ... hit a compression hard enough and your strut towers will blow (... google GT4 Strut Tower). CTS-V Wagon has tiny fuel talk and consumption of a Saturn V rocket ... more range anxiety than a Tesla. NA1 NSX impossible to find parts for, and all the master techs are retiring. The T feels like "the keeper". If you put Rear Wheel Steer on it and throw it into some really challenging mountain roads it comes alive. For that type of driving I'd rather have it than a Red Eye or LC500 or even any of the other aforementioned cars. As Porsche moves to digital cockpits, hybridization and eventual electrification (all in wide-body format only), I think this "last of the narrow-body base manual 911s" will most definitely age well.

[@Gorilla_Jones]

SavageGeese, There Is No Substitute

[@lucan88]

This is the benchmark for how a car review should be done. Beautiful work, outstanding attention to detail, can’t wait for the next one.

[@jasonschronicles]

Great balanced review. I never really got the P-Car thing until I drove (and ultimately purchased) a used Boxster S. Fully agree with the comments around engineering and how they age well. I picked up a 2010 model and can't find a squeak, rattle, or other problem anywhere. A well purchased used P car really can't be beat regardless of trim. In for the raffle to support TRI. :). PS, would love to see you guys get your hands on a 987.1 or 987.1 Boxster / Cayman while they still were N/A, before electronic steering, etc.

[@norevlimitr1602]

I recently purchased a new T with carbon brakes and carbon GT bucket seats / rear seat delete. It was almost 200lb lighter than the tested model. Installed a tune and headers got 100hp more. Car hauls ass, love it....

[@Lokyr00]

You need some more videos of it!

[@norevlimitr1602]

@@Lokyr00 Im definitely no savageese. I have zero skill when it comes to making videos..

[@robertwiersberg4299]

I drove this car for 90-minutes on the track at the Porsche Experience Center in Atlanta and was AMAZED. Sorry Mr.Geese, I could not disagree with you more... Take this car to a track and you will fall in love. I also drove the GT3 while I was there and I enjoyed the T more. I'm not a professional driver, so the T was much more manageable and fun at any speed. Porsche got the T recipe perfect, hoping that the 992 version is even better. PS - optioning this car without the fixed carbon bucket seats is a crime.

[@DearMajesty]

I'm with Jack and I prefer the simplicity and timelessness

[@chrisking647]

As a 911 Carrera T owner I was so keen to watch this as I think that savagegeese create some of the best car content on youtube. I get both points of view and in a way it's why I love my car - it's powerful but not crazy, the handling is sublime, yet it is still practical and it is not too flashy. For me at least, it is the perfect sports car.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Being understated is one of the best reasons to own a 911. If you need a flashy Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc, you have an ego problem, IMO.

[@ashegheaty]

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH and what are you if you drive something like a chiron supersport ? Probably a narcissist maniac ! Lol .

[@basithph8958]

I love that for this video you chose the 911 with the manual transmission which shows that Porsche still cares about their driving enthusiasts And their manual gearboxes is one of the best They still know how to make the best sports car

[@Closertotruth2]

I usually agree with Mark but I have no problem coming out of my GT3 and driving my GTS cabriolet or Targa. All with different engines and suspensions and transmissions. All different, all perfect in their own way. And yes I realize I’m blessed and spoiled.

[@jcb317537]

“When you are closest to death, you feel the most alive”.......this is the rationale for the Hellcat. If you choose life, you pick the fat bottom girl with the German accent.

[@storejoshuprite]

So, in summary of analogy, the Redeye is a heavyweight female M.M.A. fighter whose instability drives you a bit spare but makes you feel great anyway, The 911 T, is the fat bottomed, no nonsense german woman that happens to like swing dancing and gives you the feelings of safety, and long term contentment. Even when you aren't dancing with her.

[@CarlVandenberg]

"Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go 'round". Yeah I'd rather have a car that does everything well than a car that does a couple things great but has a lot of weaknesses too.

[@stevee8318]

So you're saying that everyone who doesn't want to die in a car accident should buy the Porsche?

[@fokjohnpainkiller]

Boomer thread. Your fucking generation knows no class

[@ghoulbuster1]

Can't really compare a drag car to a driver car, totally different costumer and purpose.

[@mrtopcat2]

I found your channel per recommendation of a friend - I love it - it is like finding a hidden gem! I don't know why KZbin has not suggested it to me before. I really like the on the ramp intro and the whole format and style. Probably one of the most underrated auto-channels - YET! Please keep up the good work - I subscribed !

[@The_Stick]

I've been hoping that there would be a video of the 911T after seeing it in the background for the past several weeks. Thank you so much for putting together a beautiful video with insightful commentary. I appreciate the time spent going over the technical details and the Shoppe segment is one of my favorites and sets this channel apart from the competition. Keep up the great work. I am curious as to your thoughts on the 911T versus the Cayman GT4 you reviewed a couple of years back. Was the GT4 any more emotionally involving?

[@mrgreen2646]

The only car manufacture that has not slaped a huge grill on the front..yet.

[@Dxun2]

To me - just like this fantastic review - this is near car perfection. Mark, thank you very much for the time, effort and talent you put into these exquisite videos.

[@basithph8958]

I love that Porsche is one of the few auto makers that cares about their enthusiasts which is why Porsche is one of my dream cars

[@Snarfindorf]

They care so much, they'll charge you thousands for their Chinese manufactured parts

[@coopsnz1]

@@Snarfindorf Porsche is hand built and built in socialist country Germany the government makes killer profit , z06 is built in Usa a capitalist country why it's way cheaper to buy

[@Snarfindorf]

@@coopsnz1 Germany isn't socialist.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

I love how 3 years later after the shelby gt350, you still work with Tri Industries.

[@muznick]

I'm more of a muscle car fan, but respect Porsche for always keeping the 911 looking like a 911. There is no need to completely change the styling when you have a nice, distinctive design.

[@yanal0611]

Holy moly, I cannot wait for the GT3 video... that is literally my dream car.

[@EvoraGT430]

We're still waiting, sadly.

[@obi-wankenobi7160]

Still waiting.....

[@Baklau007]

@@obi-wankenobi7160 Still waiting...

[@teabaggins3517]

Still waiting

[@mohammedallkhowaiter1583]

This channel is the best thing that happened to KZbin and motoring journalism ever. Keep up the good work.

[@cmanlovespancakes]

If you are a doctor and want to make things happen... Then you need to work on your putz

[@phprofYT]

If he is the type that makes a lot of money (not all do), then he needs a great sports car to haul around the trophy wife after he dumps the average woman that helped him through medical school.

[@rudolphguarnacci197]

@@phprofYT Not always true.

[@lajya01]

@@phprofYT but she takes half of everything so everybody wins!

[@whatisthis22]

If he's a cardiologist in the US then he prob makes 400-500k...if he is a cardiothoracic surgeon he prob make like 600-800k.

[@TK-gd9td]

Most doctors marry doctors or at least another in the healthcare field. The ones who need a trophy wife/husband were the weird sociopath classmate that studied in a hole for all of med school & didnt socialize throughout residency.

[@asterioslytsioulis4226]

One of the best reviewers on you tube.. I think the problem with this channel is that they actually review cars with detail and don't "Hollywood movie" the review.. that says a lot about the current car enthusiast and the knowledge and appreciation of car in general

[@watchesandcaps2566]

I wish these two would do every video together. They're great with each other and so much more interesting than turbowski. Jack Singapore actually adds a lot to the conversation and seems to really know what he's talking about.

[@d.nakamura9579]

Jack Holmes, not Jack Singapore

[@pvtcmyers87]

I love the driving impressions section. I feel when you guys both talk about cars you have something no other channel has at this time. Please keep up the amazing work. Awesome review my and thanks too all involved. Please keep TRI industries coming as well!

[@zephead843]

What you guys are trying to say is that a 911 represents an unbroken 70 year bloodline. That's where the magic lives.

[@Cogito1978]

Yep - this is a great formula - the Jack/Mark combo, and Turbowski in there when he can to be “Kramer”. I drove the 911T and its one of the few modern cars that excites me but at the end of it for a hundred grand i too struggled and, for me, ill take a boxster Spyder for that cash. Seems out of left field the lc500 discussion but i do not disagree with you. Like you Mark i want to be over the moon excited for 100 grand but modern cars can do so much while being a bit boring. But I wouldn’t fault anybody for buying it - Porsche’s are expensive and the chassis highlights show where the money goes but the 911T is one of the better “values” in Stuttgart’s range.

[@eckstar]

You guys are the best reviewers in the game right now. I really enjoy your camera work and your technical commentary.

[@ten2055]

This Carrera T owner really appreciates this outstanding review. Mark's fine videography really compliments the car's appearance and he captured the sound of the car at full song perfectly. The 2019 911 Carrera T is the last iteration of the base Carrera with a manual transmission option. That'll make it a lot more memorable 10 years from now than an LC 500!

[@WideAwakeHuman]

My partner got an LC500 when they first came out - it’s still a head turner but having driven it and seen it every day I’m just not that impressed - I agree, the Porsches just age so well, you could buy a 10 yr old one today and it doesn’t look “old” or out of date at all

[@car_enthusiast99]

Also, new T has manual too. But great car. I love it.

[@sohelhussain2689]

I rented this a few weeks ago. It's fast as hell, but jeez the suspension is so tight on this, and you feel EVERY single bump. It was a little bit over the top. Nonetheless it was a ton of fun to drive with incredible performance.

[@xelawash]

The way you summarized the 911 is spot on...nuff said

[@matthewrobertson9986]

“The engineer part of my body is straight up pitching a tent whenever I drive this car” 😂 I know what you mean, as a fellow mech eng with a 997 lol.

[@johnbacon4997]

Just a question. How reliable are the 997s?

[@matthewrobertson9986]

@@johnbacon4997 Mine has been great so far *knock on wood*. Owned it 4yrs now, and other than the water pump failing, it's been just small things that have aged-out like rubber hoses (coolant lines) or cracked plastics (expansion tank). Just make sure to get a good PPI before buying one.

[@johnbacon4997]

@@matthewrobertson9986 that's what everyone says

[@ranitidina007]

You know that Lexus did really good with the LC500 when in a conversation about the 911, the LC is a true option.

[@dogchainsaw3923]

ranitidina007 no. Lexus IS trash

[@ranitidina007]

​@@dogchainsaw3923 I think totally different, but I respect your opinion

[@ranitidina007]

@@Gandalf721 The LC is not a track car by any means, it is a gt. You just have to look its interior and weight

[@revaholic]

I really wish more people would buy the LC now...NA V8 beauty...buy it so car fans can buy them 10 years later!

[@Fluterra]

Good video, but a little too one-sided. Drawbacks: power to weight is not great, and this is a sports car after all. Engine has turbo lag, it’s not the best. The AMG 4L V8 is the world’s best for no perceptible lag, sound, and power. Interior trim has some cheap elements: lots of blank switches. The plastic rear ‘glass’ distorts easily and is tough to get replaced under warranty.

[@enticeman28]

That intro music reminded me how much I miss Turbowski

[@heimatliebe116]

Why is Turbowski not featured, anymore?

[@FunFactsAboutTech]

@@heimatliebe116 cuz Jack is better

[@AviationDirection]

@@FunFactsAboutTech and he brought no value to the videos. Jack is good.

[@motopolak]

Maybe an overlooked part of the video, but I loved the intro music; it fit perfectly with the intro shots and the opening for the whole video. Great work as always... a newer Porsche is still on my future ownership list (I lean towards a Cayman variant), so I enjoy hearing both perspectives from you guys about this car and the brand in general.

[@johndbro1]

"When you get out of a GT3 and into the T, it's like.... what...." . Such a rich-person problem.

[@MichaelM-zk7lc]

I agree with Jack. There is not really anything to dislike. For 2020 it feels like a throwback: (Great) weight/power/balance/value for having fun on a daily basis, that will age very well.

[@Joshgribbon]

Keep it up man, your car videos are the best in-depth quality on youtube. No BS reviews unlike 99% of them out there

[@Towert7]

Objectively, if there had never been a 911 before and this car came out, you would be head over heels with this thing! You put a lot of emphasis on uniqueness, and the fact that these are styled so similarly and predictably removes that unique aspect for you. This car is for a perfectionist. Someone who appreciates refinement and an overall level of quality. An American car is probably going to let them down in terms of overall quality level, so they don't bother. At the end of the day, having a refined precision tool is more important than uniqueness. That is who buys and loves a Porsche. I am a perfectionist who can't afford a Porsche, so I own a Mazda MX-5 (NC). It ticks all the same boxes I value with a significantly lower cost of ownership, albeit with a lower overall level of performance, too. Is it unique? No, not really... but there is no other sports car I would rather own for the money! As a perfectionist, I am always happy with my MX-5.

[@TheChannel1978]

Porsches are much more refined than your Mx5, it ticks some different boxes there. I know cause I'm in a similar boat (I own an s2000). Drove several Porsches but didn't add up to more fun than my s2k on the week end. That weighs higher in my personal equation of value/cost and it sounds like it's the same for you. Somebody who wants to daily a 911 of course sees this entirely differently and doesn't want too raw/noisy a car.

[@lowstandar]

The great dialog is what makes this channel so great. Intelligent, well-spoken folks talking cars. Great stuff.

[@charlesdr1981]

911 is like a Golf,dont change formula when it works.

[@brendancarlson1678]

Those plaid seats though...

[@TheChannel1978]

Exactly right, it's the same principle. I feel the same way as Mark about 911s, not much of a wow factor unless its a gt3

[@93455Driver]

Brendan Carlson .....are awesome.

[@RichAbe23]

I love this guy’s car reviews.

[@FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC]

thanks

[@MarkRVillano]

The closest I ever came to owning a German sports car was my '75 VW Sirocco. But I've always admired them from afar; particularly the 911. As of today, I'm only around $97,000 away from buying one .... but I'm working on it.

[@bfdz94]

Mark Villano you can buy a 996 generation 911 for around $30k

[@MarkRVillano]

@@bfdz94 Yeah, but I couldn't afford to replace the brakes and the tires. Best I could swing is an oil change.

[@hwyfools]

The S is the sweet spot. 2nd owner buy, better brakes, more HP and drive it without worrying about racking miles. Of course add IMO.

[@antoniocarlostavares9615]

One of the best car channel in YT. I wonder why they don't have 3M+ subscribers!

[@eurly93]

Mark does such a great job articulating what makes Porsche so incredible and so frustrating. I drove a 2005 Boxster S and S2000 back to back. On paper, the Porsche should win in every category but if I was putting down cash, it would be for the s2000 EVERY TIME. There's something special about that car that no amount of great mid engine dynamics and badging can overcome. I spent a week with a 718 Cayman S. On paper it should trounce my Mustang GT in every way and yet it simply never did unless I was going 10/10 on tight twisty canyon roads. The rest of the time, sitting in traffic, driving around the city, the Mustang is the superior 'enthusiast' car because it's actually engaging in a playful way the cayman simply isn't. Precision simply isn't as rewarding or entertaining as a burbling v8 that wants to go sideways all the time

[@joseph-ow1hf]

I've mentioned before on another post, but I am seriously impressed by your production quality. Shooting quality video w/ good sound, and then editing is some really hard work. Plus all the other good stuff, like you guys know what you are talking about. Awesome site....I've recommended to my car geek friends.

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

Jack has really come into his own. I'm glad some of the workload has been taken off ya. I gotta say, I really just can't get enough 911. I'm a young guy in my 20s and still... the 911 is the car I dream of owning. A big part of it is the styling and that pure sound. I know I'm not alone in thinking the Porsche is perfection.

[@jackh7550]

Lobster Johnson thanks, unrelated lobster Johnson is an amazing name.

[@darius2640]

where did scott turbowski go? he would have something to say about this. Are you not friends anymore or something?

[@googleleavemynamealone9145]

Hee keeps it there even tho Turbowski hasnt been anywhere near, or plan to be in his videos. I think its representative of how the goose cant move on. Kinda sucks, would do him well to move out and get access to more cars, but I still love every minute of content despite it lol

[@TheChannel1978]

Would've been fun to hear Turbowskis dead pan comments about it. Bet he would've cracked a beetle joke

[@darthnatas953]

What , Mark wasn't frowny enough for you here? You needed the motherload of sarcasm and complaints if you are missing Scott.

[@Southpaw-qc9gh]

Best car reviewer ever! The quality and layout of the show can literally be it’s own show on Speed. Keep em coming Mark and Scott!

[@D3Brian]

I really appreciate the efforts you guys went to to support Tri Industries. I'm Chairman of a local disability organisation in Dublin. I got a buzz out of you mentioning Tri - keep it up kids.

[@pikapika4558]

I actually agree with Mark here. All the 911s look more or less the same, but the LC looks so unique and it represents the best V8 Japan ever make in this generation. Meanwhile, 911 is more or less the same over the last ten years and will remain this way in the next years.

[@Khanh.Nguyen369]

In 20 years the Lexus will look like a 2019 car. In 20 years the Porsche will still look of the time.

[@moneyparhar]

Yup. Look at 2019 4 runner looks like 2000

[@revaholic]

Sure, but to me the Porsche 911 has never looked interesting. I'd rather a car look of a certain time, than a car that has never dared to look interesting over decades and decades

[@rockonthelough5417]

Loved this and your GT4 video. Great to hear different perspectives. Also refreshing to watch a channel that doesn't feel the need to SHOUT at you in a 5min blast of verbal noise.

[@firefighterps2]

I owned a 997.2. S and agree totally about stepping out of a non GT series 911 into a GT3. The GT3 is simply what a 911 should feel like. I now understand why people say that the only 911 worth having is a GT3.

[@Paco_Burrito_Suave]

Where's Turbowski and the other mechanic?

[@jackh7550]

Ralli4Mitsubaru Scott has a full time job and toddd was busy sadly.

[@aceofspades6667]

he's in prison.. got caught moving a key of pure cacau across the border. He'll be out in a duece.

[@zTheBigFishz]

I've owned 2 (964 and 997). I'm sure I'll own another, probably one of these or the base Carrera 991.2...the sweet spot in the line up, imo. They are surprisingly quick hitting 60 in less than 4 seconds. Sum is greater than the parts is what I like about these. A symphony on wheels.

[@groosbro1]

I have a 2017 S2 in the driveway. In 27K miles it has chewed through a set of rear tires (which isn't bad considering they are summer tires), and the water pump took a dump on my driveway (covered under warranty). The clutch makes a "sproing" sound when the pedal is depressed fully and the gear box feels like I'm rowing through a box of pebbles. The reverse lockout is joke, you can easily slap the shifter into reverse if you rush to shift into first from a traffic light. Why Porsche couldn't do pull up collar like so many other companies do I can't say. When the suspension is set to "normal" the car has an odd corner to corner floating motion which makes me kind of seasick (and I don't get seasick on boats regardless of the weather), the solution is to keep the suspension in sport. Other than that the car is great. Fast, makes nice noises, gets >25mpg cruising at 70...

[@joetacchino4470]

As a 991 owner, the buttons are ridiculous. But you don’t use them most of the time, and it ends up being fine. Also, the rear seats are ridiculous, but they are there. My 9 and 13 year olds still fit back there, which makes it way more usable than a Corvette, Boxster, R8, etc. it really does transform the usability of the car. Good review. The T may be “just” a base Carrera with some sporty bits but somehow they made it more than the sum of its parts.

[@netcrashYT]

Just rented this and enjoyed it out on the LA canyon roads. I can compare it to a PDK GTS Boxster 981. Soundtrack is more muted from inside, but it drives wonderfully and has great push at 2nd and 3rd thanks to the boost. I do agree w the emotion commentary, my 981 with open roof has more emotion (louder, really) that said for a 911 this one is on my wish list for realistic fun on public roads.

[@nncs]

Hunted for a year and just bought a 2019 T. These are special cars. Last of the narrow body, last analog dash, etc. Will go up over time, some say they will be more desirable than the GT3 due to production numbers and spec, but regardless I'm going to enjoy every mile.

[@JoJoJoker]

The best 911 is a used 911.

[@JoJoJoker]

Open Ranks they cost more. Or less. Used 911 is like Pennywise.

[@Braydenplaysallday]

If you want a thrashed car. Buy used.

[@JoJoJoker]

JK 911 it’s not a mustang. 1st owners tend not to rag out 911s.

[@Braydenplaysallday]

Joel D - okay, in that case.. I’ll sell you my 911. Promise I didn’t rag it out 🤣

[@rs-flamingo]

Wonderful review, just donated to TRI. I loved the discussion right before the final thoughts. The 991.2 is gonna look just as refined 20 years from now and that’s good and bad.

[@66hmr]

Best review I've watched on KZbin; period.

[@theanthonyv]

I understand Mark’s perspective about this car perhaps being less dramatic or period-defining. But I’ve owned one of these 911 Ts for two years now and it has been perfect in every way as a daily driver. GREAT car! I like that it’s a bit understated and a little surgical.

[@savagegeese]

Jack is right about it and so are you.

[@christophergrimes1674]

As a T owner for the last year and a half, I agree!

[@bfdz94]

When is the GT3 review coming out, @savagegeese?

[@billiondollardan]

I like the idea of TRI industries. I wish we had something similar here in northwestern Ohio. I did make the donation for some tickets. I hope they sell three times the value of the vehicle in tickets!

[@SupercarsinGreece]

What a beauty!!! Can't wait for the 992 version!

[@philnleblanc6664]

Crazy to think that a car can be disliked for being “too perfect.” I understand what he’s saying, but that’s one of the things I love about my 911. I get in it and know that it’s going to be the most perfect riding experience. I can push it hard and know it’ll eat up the road. Isn’t that the point of a 911?

[@mangoshake]

I actually think that the LC500 has the more timeless look than the 911, precisely because every Porsche looks the same. They have to update the exterior for every generation to the latest generation of automotive design's standards because the platform has already aged so much. Look at a 991 GT3 RS and look at a 991.2 GT3 RS and tell me the older model doesn't look like it came out of 2003. Now that the 992 generation has come out, even though the 991.2 GT3 is my favorite car of all time, the tail lights already look dated. Meanwhile, I just saw an LC500 in person the other day and I thought to myself, "wow, that look is gonna last 20 years". Sure, it's wacky and elegant at the same time like a banana split, but its unique look, the fact that it looks like the only car of its kind, is why it's gonna become ageless to me.

[@elusivellama]

You can say that the LC500 is also the same way - it will not break down either, and it'll remain consistent throughout its lifetime. Yet, that Lexus remains something special, it evokes visceral emotions when you stab that gas pedal and hear the V8 roar, and it's a definite head turner. Of all the cars that Lexus has made, I think the LC500 is the top for me, beating out even the LFA because, well, I can't buy an LFA but it is possible to buy an LC500 now (even if I can't afford it, it's still available to the public).