2019 Ram 1500 V6 vs V8 eTorque take on The World's Toughest Towing Test (Ike Gauntlet 2019)

[@billblonco]

The Pentastar v6 towing almost 100% of it’s rating up a hill @ above sea level should get considerable praise.

[@donleamon8653]

Considerably above sea level. I agree, it did a decent job.

[@Banner1986]

For a 22 grand difference? Pentastar all day long.

[@davekauffman561]

Banner1986, For 2600 bucks you can get the v8 in the tradesman. Your paying 22k more for the limited over the tradesman. Two totally different types of trucks.

[@Banner1986]

Yeah, I'd still pass.

[@reserva120]

well said.. plus your daily non towing mileage is far better..

[@muellerpk]

I tow with a 2017 ram v6 with around 6klbs for work fairly regularly and it actually has a decent amount of power...its impressive for a v6

[@Sean_thompson_bass]

V6s put out old v8 numbers now, and v8s now out perform old v10 and diesel engines. Crazy

[@rondellschuyler7074]

@@Sean_thompson_bass A hemi will not out pull a Cummins diesel. No way. I have seen both. The hemi is a mule. A Cummins diesel is a Clydesdale.

[@Sean_thompson_bass]

@Rondell Schuyler I meant comparing modern vs old engines. As far as gas vs diesel, the 6.4 hemi currently has more hp and torque than, say, the old 5.9 cummins. The supercharged engine would make even more power. But on the flip side, you could always build up an old cummins into a monster. And as far as a modern gas vs a modern diesel engine, then of course the diesel will out perform the gas engine. It'll be interesting to see how Cummins' upcoming gas engines perform compared to diesels.

[@catztruck929]

@@rondellschuyler7074he said some modern gasoline engines out perform some old diesel engines. Comprehension is difficult I guess.

[@smc1377]

I just have to say, I don't own a truck and I will probably never own a truck. But you guys do such a great job on your show (personalities, production value, editing) that I'm sitting here at 8am watching your video about trucks.

[@TFLtruck]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@gregormiller4037]

Agree with your sentiment smc...but SHHHH! Don't tell them, dun want to inflate egos too much:), I give'em grief when ever I can, keeps them grounded hehe.

[@hawdyarabdulla6884]

+The Fast Lane Truck thank you tflt you do the right job but please make an off road video on chevy tahoe z71

[@TheBigkal201]

May I ask why you are so interested in these videos when you obviously have no interest in owning a truck?

[@smc1377]

@@TheBigkal201 Sure, you can ask. I just like being knowledgeable about many things, even if it's things that don't directly apply to my life. For example, I'm also not a gun owner, but I like knowing about learning about guns and even how their different ammo like say the differences between a .223 and a 5.56. Or like the differences between the Canon 5D Mark IV and the Canon 5Ds R. Or like which latest cell phone has the nicest camera. So in that respect, I like watching videos like this...even if I'll never own a truck.

[@hockeynutt9434]

These are the best real world reviews. Always well done.

[@lifesaver718]

Lets do an all out V6 test....Chevy 4.3L vs Dodge 3.6L vs Ford 3.3L.....

[@brendanhall9346]

I'm a dodge guy all the way but that 4.3 vortec is a wicked engine I had a 2001 s10 xtreme and that 4.3 is a great little engine I'd take a 4.3 over the pentastar any day but I'd take a 5.7 hemi over any other v8 truck

[@91CavGT5]

The modern 4.3L GM V6 has nothing in similarity to the old 4.3L that was in the S10 and full size trucks. The new 4.3 is completely different.

[@treyfisse3230]

@@brendanhall9346 The Hemi 5.7 is hard to beat these days

[@jacobauld565]

I am but no means a dodge/ram guy but after driving a ram pro master 1500 with a 3.6 as a company vehicle that motor can take some abuse… even in the mountains in Hawaii it won’t win you any races but it ran flawless

[@canamxmr4760]

This is why I subscribed! No other reviewers provide real world comparisons or videos of what people are actually curious about.

[@mr.p960]

DO NOT BUY THIS TRUCK I HAVE A 2019 RAM HEMI 1500 IN ONE YEAR I HAD TO REPLACE THREE BATTERIES ONE RADIATOR AND NOW THE OVERHEAD CONSOL STOP WORKING NOW TODAY 08/7/2021 AT 135 PM IT IS BACK IN THE SHOP AGAIN FOR THE BATTERY AND THIS IS A 72,000 DOLLAR RAM LIMITED ABSOLUTE WORST TRUCK EVER DON'T BUY IT.

[@esaflaka9155]

@@mr.p960got a defective one i guess

[@TheJoncic]

Yeah to be fair the 3.6 did better than I thought I would.

[@leehancock2782]

It did very well, it would be fine in the flat lands

[@GodRam1988]

I went from a hemi Ram to a 3.6 grand Cherokee and while the pentastar is no hemi it’s a bad ass v6. Guys wanna laugh look up some ripe supercharger videos some of these things are making 450 wheel hp with just a supercharger Instal not bad

[@douglas685]

@@leehancock2782 The 8 speed should help quite a bit too. I own the 300 with the 3.6l V6, it is pretty soft until 4,000rpm then it really kicks. If you kept it at in gear 3,500-4,000rpm it'll really pull.

[@alexisguilbe8040]

Guys, thanks for the information. I have a RAM 1500 4WD V8. No regrets and up to 19.2 MPG climbing hills and down the hill with up to 1000 pounds. Excellent pick up.

[@bigblueram86]

the best reviews on youtube but guys yall dont need loud music clouding up your voices

[@BassRacerx]

the cool thing is that you maxed out the ram v6 and it was ABLE to complete the mission. ram set an honest maximum tow rating on the v6. Honestly I would never need to tow with a pickup truck i just like having the bed to haul stuff with the ram v6 is definently on my radar!

[@rmkscrambler]

I have the 3.6 in a jeep Grand Cherokee with the 8 speed. I took a trip in Colorado a couple years back pulling a 3500lb trailer. Over 5 or 6 passes at least 3 => than the ike. I could hold 70 on every one that speed limit allowed:). Over all for the trip I averaged 16mpg which was impressive. The Toyota tundra 4.7 in the group with an extra 1000 lbs on the trailer averaged 8mpg. The 3500lb trailer probably had more wind drag. Point being this engine is great for most. Id say regular towing of up to 5000lbs is fine. In the video it clearly did really well with 7000lbs considering its size and the load. But if towing was a regular thing the 5.7 is a must.

[@frankgrochot8719]

I gotta say, with working at a Jeep Chrysler dealership for a few years I was always a must have a V8 in the Grand Cherokees as the 3.7 was gutless. The 3.6 with the old 6 speed was good but not great. I recently was given a 2016 grand limited with the 3.6/8speed combo when my ram was getting brakes done. That thing flat out flew. I was super impressed with it. Plus it was averaging 25 mpg when I had it. I seriously couldn't say enough good things about it.

[@rmkscrambler]

They are really impressive little engines, as a daily around town driver I average 23 in the summer and 21 in the winter. 25-28 on the hyw. After owning one I would probably opt for the V6 over the V8 unless I had the money for a track hawk of course but that will never happen.

[@benkuhns230]

Chrysler's Just Junk

[@rmkscrambler]

@@benkuhns230 Yet they complete every ike run thrown at them. Something Ford can't seam to do.

[@tallll70]

same here, i rented v6 2017 Ram i had 26 mpg empty, 22 on way back with some things, not bad

[@eventhisidistaken]

I guess for me, on the rare occasions I max out going up a mountain, I can live with an extra 45 seconds to save $2500. I appreciate this, because I am convinced that what I want it for - daily commuter + towing a boat or small trailer < 4000lb in mostly flat terrain, the V6 is enough.

[@miggyv6856]

The V6 deserves praise for the way it performed. Not only did it complete the task, but it did it while pushing at its limit. In addition, rarely will anyone be towing close to 8k pounds at that type of elevation and grade. That v6 earned a thumbs up for what it is.

[@komaboi19]

This has to be the best way to make a living. Reviewing and playing with trucks (and some other stuff I'm guessing)!

[@duggydo]

Really good Ike video. Just a bit difficult to hear you guys over the music at times. Still a thumbs up.

[@bster88]

I second that I'm trying to watch this video in the office without head phones and I was constantly moving the volume up and down.

[@Funtimes670]

TFL has done the music like this in almost all their videos! It’s a good thing their content is decent or I wouldn’t even watch them.

[@seagullsbtn]

Agree the music steals your commentary. Was hoping for more time spent comparing the air v coil suspension. Your Canuck buddy fell in love with the air.

[@rmkscrambler]

Chris I have a jeep with coil and a family member has one with air. The extra clearance available with the air is nice at times. But the coil just rides better IMO.

[@bosse641]

I agree it's too loud the music. ...have to constantly turn the volume up and down. Tiresome.

[@5spikemike]

Great real test. Although the V6 was maxed out, I noticed that you were still passing other trucks and trailers on the hills. Yes, they were probably heavier trailers, but still... And, the V6 version missed the benchmark, but only by 41 seconds. Over an 8 mile uphill route, I'd say it still did the job. Bottom line, if you're going to tow 7000 lbs, especially in hills, get the V8. But, if you're not towing often and only towing about half the weight, then I think the V6 is a viable choice. Thanks guys.

[@vojnikjna30]

Michael Hensley yes that’s correct but that was flooring the pentastar so squeezing every drop of power out where as the Hemi it was not. Personally I think the v6 would be ideal for 90% of half ton drivers

[@tallll70]

i always felt that MDS should switch to 6 cylinders instead 4, it could hold 6 cylinders much longer then 4, probably most of the easy foot ride on flat south interstates, having hopefully 25-26 mpg for all those runs

[@5spikemike]

Like it so much that I bought one yesterday. Got a 2019 RAM 1500 Lone Star (Big Horn, but in Texas) w/3.6L V6 etorque. It has more power than you would think.

[@tallll70]

Michael Hensley that's how I felt, because of the higher RPM handling it feels lightweight, even the 2017 version was fast and responsive you just have the missing torque for heavy stuff

[@5spikemike]

I want to give a little update. As I said in the comments, I went out and bought a 2019 RAM 1500 Lone Star w/3.6 etorque 2wd. I love the truck. My one disappointment early on is the gas mileage. I thought I was going to get better gas mileage. I live in a really flat area of the country. I haven't hauled anything. With 900 miles so far, my dash says that I'm averaging 17.5 mpg. That's with a lot of highway driving. I am intentionally driving really easy and consistently to try to maximize mpg. This is just from the dash computation. I will calculate it in the next couple of fill ups. I understand that the mileage should go up after the initial break in period. So, with 900 miles on the odometer, that should start improving. Still, I love the truck. But, if this is the gas mileage, then I wish I would have gotten the V8 that sounds like it gets the same mpg. I will post another update after some more miles and fill ups.

[@SW737Flyer]

Guys, love and watch all your videos. But please chill out on the music. It runs way too loud and right over top of your talking.

[@Mixwell1983]

WHHATT?? I CAN'T HEAR YOU.. THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD!

[@bobcook231]

Thank You Guys !!!! Great Review. I am totally HAPPY with my 2016 Ram V6. I would never push an engine as hard as you do , even if it was a V8. I would just get in the slower lane watching the temp"s and enjoy the drive adding a few minutes up that pass like the 18 wheelers do on that Huge incline !!! I always baby my Truck on extreme roads . What is the rush,, You would never push your self that hard walking or bike riding up a steep hill , so why do it to your ,,, Truck that you Love . My V6 Ram now has almost 200 THOUSAND miles on it !!!!!!! YAAA !!! My Ram is the best RIDE I have ever Driven and Yes I love it , and RESPECT it . It does SO much work for me , I am so thankful for it .. Thanks for the Great Reviews Vadka and gang !!!!

[@rondellschuyler7074]

Bob Cook. Your dodge Ram you said has nearly 200k on it. Does it use oil. My brothers 2010 5.7 hemi has 180k and it is using oil. Valve guides are worn. I am leaning toward the 3.6 engine.

[@vackyvlada1]

Bravo! Real world towing, no need to push speed, safety first and enjoy your ride 😀

[@FreedomToRoam86]

I paid 39K for my 2019 RAM 1500 Classic, and love it. Wouldn't tow in mountains, but for midwest, is awesome, and I get 20-22 MPG on other trips; never get that with a thirsty 8.

[@FreedomToRoam86]

@John That is interesting. Curious if you get same MPG towing lightish camper. It could be Ram has just got so efficient with their V8 that the limiting factor is how much energy you can get out of a gallon of gas. Ford on the other hand was never so efficient, with our 2010 Expedition at least

[@matthewm3912]

My 19 Durango RT got 24mpg highway all day.

[@giobarajas3654]

My 2016 Ram v6 gets the same mpg my buddy with his 14 ram gets... Both trucks leveled on 35s

[@ricsccr]

Disagree. I have a 19 classic crew cab with the 5.7 hemi and got 21.5 mpg from upstate NY to outer banks, NC. They're very fuel efficient when cruising. I only paid 30k for mine. I love that truck.

[@RPG__Dave]

Great review and details. One small criticism and I have seen this in multiple TFL videos. I would show the cheap truck first then the expensive one. This gives the user what to expect in the cheap and what to look forward to if they can afford the limited. When you show the limited first its like here is all of the good stuff now lets see what is missing! Build up not down. Most people will buy somewhere in the middle anyways.

[@yosam5184]

More and more I am liking that Tradesman V6 auto 4X4 with the bench seat.

[@scottfurlong5475]

I'm really liking the 3.6L 4x4 in the Bighorn trim. I've got an older 5.7L Dodge Ram 1500 and it's been a great truck as I've had no issues in 158,000 Km but with day to day driving, it can be thirsty. I'm considering a Tacoma or Ridgeline but I have a soft spot in my heart for the Ram 1500.

[@scottfurlong5475]

@@greco2189 26 mpg! That's excellent! It must be down hill to and from work. That works out to 9 L/100 km. My wife's minivan is getting 11.2 L/100 km (21 mpg) mixed driving and we are very happy with that. The absolute best I can get out of my 2010 Ram 1500 5.7L quad cab 4x4 is 15.8 L/100 km (14.5 mpg) and let me tell you, I'm nursing it along. It's not flat here at all. If I could keep a full size pickup and maintain pretty good fuel economy then I wouldn't even consider getting a smaller truck.

[@rickgarcia8481]

@@scottfurlong5475 my son has a 2019 Tacoma, it's terrible in my opinion... The most uncomfortable truck I've ever been it... Terrible ride... And he paid $40,000 for it

[@robkenna2795]

My is a 2018 3.6 3.55 gears quad 4x4 big horn.i drive with a pretty light foot. In the warmer months it will do a honest 25-26 all highway doing 70 and letting it drop to 65 on hills. I was getting almost 28 on the way home from upstate PA until i hit construction on pa turnpke. Most ive towed was around 2500 pounds. Still got 18-19 and wasnt having any trouble keeping up with traffic. No hemi, but impressive little engine so far

[@andrewkenseth4814]

Rick Garcia I have the same Tacoma and I hate it. I’ve owned Rams my whole life and am currently shopping to go back to a RAM.

[@mannyd123]

I haul my 5500lb camper regularly across NJ through PA and upstate NY. Took it all the way out to the mid west on a big haunting camping trip. I bought the Ram1500 v6 etorque crew cab over the v6 Hemi. 13.5 MPG through mountains maintaining 60-70MPH. Very rarely have I ever topped 4000 RPMS (with 1 exception traveled through PA and forgot tow haul mode once at most I hit 4500 RPMs). 58k sticker price bought for 48k Fully loaded minus the airbag suspension. I invested extra money in a good weight distribution hitch. City driving I get 22-24MPG all day long. Drive the beach regularly on the Jerseyshore. V8Hemi has no use for me I will never haul 10,000lbs 😆

[@aarsenalfan]

Just GOT 2019 BIG HORN V8 NO e-torque, I'm UBER HAPPY EXCITED 😀

[@dooginator2008tx]

You guys have the BEST truck review channel on KZbin. By far. I watch your channel like I watch regular television.

[@xevilhomer1167]

So glad on this test you had the 3.92 in the Limited! I've been curious to see it because that's what mine has. I'm curious how a 5.7L with 3.21 would compare to a 5.7L 3.92 in a towing test on the ike and then an unloaded MPG loop!

[@dand318]

Same here, I'd love to see this test between a 3.21 and 3.92 E-Torque...

[@mooseknucks1089]

I can appreciate that you gave an apples to apples comparison with the same trailer for both trucks, but I have a sneaking suspicion that most people buying the V6 aren’t going to max the truck out with a 7k lb trailer. More like a 3500 lb utility trailer at most, and that’s why they got the V6.

[@JsGarage]

Moose Knucks oh yea no doubt the V6 has a purpose. If you need a truck just for the bed and/or some light towing it is fine. I’m sure everyone now and then someone will Max one out though.

[@jonathanmazzella1247]

I have a 2015 tradesman v6 (leather interior) I purchased slightly used (1200 miles) for 24k. I pull a 7x16 trailer with 4 atvs sideways at 75 mph in 5th gear on the weekends around 15 Miles per gallon no problems. Its plenty of truck for what i need and the gas mileage is great. I would agree 40k+ is too much money for a cloth v6 tradesman though. I would wait a couple years and pick one up less than 30k.

[@DeltaSierra426]

I'm thinking the same, or maybe they are hauling 6K lbs. but on smaller rolling hills and relatively flat terrain. This testing was just neat to see what happens when this is done. No overheating (although kinda close) or breakdown issue doing it. If nothing else, it shows that there IS a big difference between the V6 and V8, if nothing else for the torque (~265 lb.-ft. vs. 410 lb.-ft.), with the little extra weight of airbags, the beefy V8, and heavier transmission practically entirely off-set and even mostly unimpactful towards fuel economy [in this scenario]).

[@jonathanmazzella1247]

@@DeltaSierra426 Completely agree. I think the only thing the real big offset is in used prices. You can pick up a v6 usually 7-10k cheaper than a Hemi (model to model). But your right the hemi vs v6 mpg difference towing, does not make up for the lack of power (in this scenario).

[@BassRacerx]

Yeah but tests like this keep manufacturers honest about how they rate their tow ratings. up until recently truck manufacturers seemed to just make up the tow ratings out of thin air. Clearly 7k pounds was a safe limit for this truck adding 500-1000 more pounds would have been potentially unsafe!

[@loganholmberg2295]

If your in a cold weather climate I wouldn't touch Ram's air ride. Broke three times on my Dad last winter. Had to be completely replaced on 2 of those occasions.

[@sunj8286]

same here on my Rebel

[@2010challengerRT]

Yep. The Ram air suspension is very problematic in cold weather. Compressors freezing up, blowing fuses, suspension collapsing down on to the bump stops, etc. We see nothing but problems with it in Saskatchewan. A shame, because they ride and handle great when they do work.

[@ohioguy4326]

I wouldn't buy air ride on any vehicle unless it's leased. It always breaks, plenty of old Lincolns driving around with on the ground with broken air suspension.

[@nwomoe6713]

Yup lots of problems up here in northern Canada with the ram air suspension that I've seen..I had Firestone bags in my ford and they lasted 1 year max...but not to many things last at -40 for 6 months of the year..even logging trucks are replacing bags none stop

[@mobgma]

agreed it is shit

[@codylau7718]

I just got a lease for a 21 ram with the pentastar. I'm pretty impressed and may end up buying out it in the end.

[@SuperGman1213]

Drinking game: take a shot every time Andre says “hell yea.”

[@williamarden5441]

I'm already buzzed 😂

[@mitchstake13]

or "dude"

[@nwomoe6713]

Haha I was thinking the same thing..I'm already greased..cheers from northern canada

[@dchawk81]

Yeah sure if you want to die from alcohol poisoning.

[@regsparkes6507]

@@dchawk81 Yeah, it's time for these guys to move on with that silly saying,..it's best by date came and went a long time ago on these TFL videos.

[@m.fheagle3286]

I just went from a Grand Cherokee overland with the 5.7 to a 2019 1500 classic with 3.6 and 3.55. I haven’t had a chance to tow with it yet but the 8 speed transmission has unlocked the pentastar and my opinion of losing all that jam. The GC had air suspension too and in our mountains it gets cold! The compressor was constantly overworking and wouldn’t adjust the ride height as it was “cooling down”, plus when the rear airbags went it was $2600 fix. I’m happy to return to analog suspension. The Hemi had punch and easily passed at highway speed but the payload was so small on my GC, I’ve got the same tow rating (7200lbs) with my Classic with a higher payload and I’m not too concerned about pulls off the line when I take the fam camping. The SLT trim has retained enough of the luxury finishes that at $39k (CAD) I’m extremely satisfied with my 2019 Ram 1500 Classic.

[@TTCoyoteF150]

2019 RAM 1500. Motor Trend Truck of the Year!

[@warrentrucks09]

I’m surprised the V6 even made it with only 269 lbs Ft of torque at sea level. Being a crew cab, 4 wheel drive, and towing 7000 lbs up the Ike? Just making it says something. Honestly I’m blown away by the performance of both trucks. 4.7 mph is impressive.

[@larryg2707]

Come on the V6 was slow, but not 4.7mph slow :)

[@rmkscrambler]

The pentastar's biggest secret is the flat torque curve it produces 90% of its peak by 1500 rpm and hold it till 6500 rpm

[@geoffmooregm]

Almost everyone used to tow with less torque and horsepower than that back in the 80's 🤣. My dad towed our 19' Bigfoot travel trailer with a 305 in a Chevy Malibu.

[@kenrobinson1099]

have one in my Charger and it's amazing considering its displacement. Very pleased with it.

[@ExoneratedSins]

BBC Zaza , 2xxr s2 x5dx

[@DODGEDETROIT]

nice to see the difference between V8 & V6!

[@ChannelZeroOne]

LOL same gas mileage less everything else.

[@patricklondon6006]

The music was to high. Had a hard time hearing you.

[@beniciogro9170]

I just commented something similar lol

[@AmericanSurvival001]

time for a hearing aid

[@bookooc5605]

@@AmericanSurvival001 You are correct sir! Sound was just fine

[@JSmith-wy3yh]

I could hear them clear as day

[@ur_quainmaster7901]

Holy shit give the music a rest.

[@OlayerB]

YES! The videos are good - the music DETRACTS from them. Guys - please!

[@mesomemore97]

ABSOLUTELY!!! GET RID OF IT!!! OR I CANNOT WATCH YOUR VIDEOS!!!

[@bobsundquist2039]

I have had a 2019 v6 for 6 months now. It had 24,000 miles on it when I got it and was 30K. The same truck now is selling for almost 40. I pull a 22 ft camper that is 4200 dry and 5000 full. It is great going up to Cripple Creek or Estes Park. Driving around town as a daily driver I get about 22.8 mpg. On a recent run to Bozeman it was 23.8. Overall I am pretty happy with the truck so far. A little disappointed Ram does not put a brake controller in them but does have a tow/haul switch.

[@ATRichard]

You must’ve read my mind - searched for this video yesterday and couldn’t find it. 24 hrs. later, here we are! Thanks! If you’re not going thru the mountains or towing the maximum weight, a V6 may work fine. Otherwise, get the HEMI.

[@JoseChung21]

Andre need that V8 vs V6 offroad video buddy - thanks for your work.

[@JW-ng2jn]

Kudos to this series of videos and all the comments. I am considering a purchasing a 2019 Ram 1500 but can't decide between the 3.6 and the Hemi. I have been out of the truck world for about 40 years (since I was kid in rural NM). My wife and I live in Madison, WI, where we have not needed a truck. However, a few months ago, we bought some a some land in the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan, which is about a six hour drive from Madison. We decided that we would get a small travel trailer RV to use when we go up there. Once we made that decision, we knew we had to get a truck because our small SUV only has a towing capacity of 1500 lbs, but we were looking at RVs with dry weights of 2000 to 3500 lbs. We thought a Honda Ridgeline would be perfect, since it has a towing capacity of 5000 lbs. So we bought the Ridgeline a few months ago and then several weeks ago bought our travel trailer, a Little Guy Mini Max, which has dry weight of just under 2000 lbs. But in our maiden RV trip up there recently, the Ridgeline really struggled. The mpg dropped from 28-29 mpg for the same trip to around 12 mpg. More importantly, a "transmission fluid too hot" warning light came on during the drive up there and the drive home. We had to pull over for a half hour each time to let it cool. There are some hills on the just under six hour drive but no NOTHING even close to mountains. All of sudden, a 5.75 hour drive had turned into an eight hour one. Clearly, the Ridgeline is not up to the task. So we are looking to get a bigger truck. Though we are also considering some other trucks (especially the F150), if we decide on a Ram, what would be better for our situation, the Ram 3.6 or the Ram 5.7 Hemi? Any and all opinions greatly appreciated!!

[@cooldw22]

Hemi

[@joshuasamuels12]

Best truck channel 💪🏾

[@alvinmodeste31]

Joshua Samuels b

[@tuffr2]

Got to give it to the V6 - did a lot better than I thought it would.👍

[@beniciogro9170]

excellent vid and commentary as always. As a nitpick from a new subscriber (doing research for my first truck at 40 years old), y'all blast the music at a volume and length of time that's kinda excessive. Mind you, I love rock and metal, but going from conversation to music to both simultaneously makes me constantly adjust the volume levels when I'm watching on my PC or when listening with headphones in. Just some constructive criticism from someone who just found the TFL channels last week who loves the quality AND quantity of the work y'all do! Oh, and thanks for all the vids on the Rams 1500's!

[@rodneychaney2809]

Towed a trailer with a 1960's Willys Wagon and loaded with parts 180 miles. About 6,000 lbs from Richmond VA to Baltimore MD and got 16 mpg average. At 67,000 it is a reliable choice for anybody with "domestic" truck requirements. It rides nice, hauls trash, lumber, furniture, appliances, an occasional camper, and my family.

[@marvinr5054]

I'm so glad I came across this video I watched you guys all the time and I've been wondering how these two trucks would do against each other. Thank you guys

[@timjones9206]

First generation E Torque...... I’ll pass. Luckily I found a 2021 Laramie with a 3.92 rear axle with NO E Torque. Love it. Great truck. Has the towing package as well. Puts my 2007 Ford King Ranch to shame. Great upgrade.

[@brevinainslie6357]

2017 3.6 4x4 quad cab, hasn’t let me down yet!

[@UltraSS-nj8kd]

V8 hemi vs v8 hemi etorque to see if its worth the money. Flat land towing & unloaded mpg, not the ike.

[@UltraSS-nj8kd]

98 miles one

[@TFLtruck]

We did the standard V8 mpg flat land loop already. The V8 eTorque loop will be published within a couple weeks.

[@ezeflierid]

@@TFLtruck , it would be great if you took both to your friendly dyno shop and get the RPM vs. torque and horsepower plotted. Also, zero-60 for both would be really interesting!

[@42ambrocio]

Ram states that v8 vs v8 e torque is has washy results because the etorque system cuts out at high rpms

[@rmkscrambler]

@@42ambrocio another channel directly asked a ram engineer how long e torque assisted. He said on launch it was only 1/2 a tire rotation. After that it was all up to the engine.

[@davidrichardson6749]

Pulling the equivalent of two cars up a mountain with a truck that has a minivan engine in it. I love it. That’s crazy. It’s nice to know you could do it if you had to though! You should test more naturally aspirated v6 trucks for towing. I find it interesting because it’s rare to hear how they perform in half tons. Everybody wants a v8

[@MatthewSmith-uf6tr]

Well it’s a truck engine. Been in their fleet for a long time. Great motor.

[@gnd111]

Not a mini van engine..lol...was in Chrysler 300s and trucks at same time.

[@amolinari9]

Even though I’m in the market for the hemi I currently have a v6 manual and it’s so much more fun to drive. Watching this video seeing Andres butt clutching at 6500 rpm with the v6 was hilarious.

[@clarenceboodram1236]

I got a 2016 v6 and I’m happy however I take it easy going over the mountains but yes really good for the city

[@Motomadman43]

That V6 probably pulls better than the 5.3,5.4,4.6,5.7s of the early 2000s

[@justthisguy1948]

No way

[@dirtrider88]

idk. those engines were actually truck engines. more torque than hp and making that torque wayyy lower down than these strung out v6s are. these v6s are car engines. that doesnt make for good towing.

[@sugargoldy]

If that V6 had 410 gears it would be just fine then and the 8-speed automatic would still let it get good gas mileage

[@coolsquad7428]

It needs that 3.92 gearing

[@02Guffy]

Que the "$44k for a work truck? Pickup manufacturers have lost their minds" crowd. Good review. The V8 is worth the upgrade... I know I wouldn't want my truck screaming at me all the time.

[@02Guffy]

@ihategooglespooks what would I do without you!

[@logdon17]

Yea i was even surprised to hear the word Tradesmen and 44 grand in the same sentence. Years ago tradesmen versions usually started in the $20s.

[@LucasLeCompteMusic]

You can buy a used 2500 with a Cummings for the price of the tradesmen

[@tallll70]

nobody is buying these for that, they getting big horns for this cash

[@bkranz-1283]

I snatched my 2010 f150 supercrew 4wd v8 for only 35,000 back in fall of 09 and that was a pretty decked out xlt model. And got a 2012 single cab 2wd v8 xl model (a true work truck) for 21,000 out the door brand new and immediately started towing with it from day one. It's sick what they want to charge for a cheaper, less powerful, and desirable truck. I bet even after rebates and all the sales bs I still couldn't get it for what I paid for my nicely optioned 2010.

[@daviddaniel2198]

Think I’ll get the V6. I been wanting a truck for doing regular odds and ends at the house. Nice peace of mind and the gas mileage is better then what the Hemi will give me.

[@myherosupreme3963]

Yeah I’m about to trade in my Journey and get the Ram, been reading the differences between the V8 and V6 engines. I’m really impressed with the V6 honestly

[@daviddaniel2198]

@@myherosupreme3963 I purchased a 21 1500 big horn hemi yesterday. I love it!!!

[@paulhunter9613]

@david Daniel I think Chrysler /FCA made a big mistake by dropping the mid level 4.7 v8 some yrs ago. I have driven dodge trucks for over42 yrs and when looking for a new truck this last yr I looked at what the ram had to offer. Not much. Either a v6 that was underpowered for what I had to tow, or a nearly 400 hp v8 that was excessive. I didn’t want the penalty of a gas guzzler v8, that’s why I sold my ‘98 ram with. 5.9 because of the gas it used when not towing. So I got a ford 2.7 with tow pkg, great mpg’s and will tow 7700 lbs, same as my old dodge

[@ojbarberena7090]

Background music should be background. Way to loud.

[@eazymoneyjack4230]

Okay boomer

[@R1ze2the0k8z10n]

Posted a video with an e torque hemi with 3:90s, no towing. Mileage was all over the place. Not the most scientific, but just to get a general idea. Thanks for this video.

[@milviodeleon4421]

The gearing is a major factor when towing. I am surprise you guys didn't make a bigger issue about it.

[@thewalkindude7716]

I love the Ike Gauntlet videos!!

[@brianiannarelli1168]

Me to

[@corystansbury]

The V-6 seems perfectly adequate for 95% of users. Most will want the Hemi, but it's nice to know the base engine is more than adequate.

[@tacuachandocuh8233]

Yeah i know hundreds of people with pickups and most of them never tow anything

[@tinshield]

I have a 2017 and it drives great. If I was towing anything heavy would get a V8 but other than that it’s more than adequate.

[@corystansbury]

@@tacuachandocuh8233 I laugh, because I have towed uhaul 6x12s with nearly every car I've ever owned, including a Sonic blue s60R. I got lots of weird looks, but it was an amazing tow vehicle.

[@philtripe]

the way i see it. buy the most economical truck possible and when you have to tow heavy loads, rent! why beat the crap out of your own truck

[@rmkscrambler]

The funny thing is the people that will truly work them the hardest will probably end up with the v6 because that's all the dealer has in stock a for base work truck. It's like trying to get one with the off road package for some reason if I want to use the truck off road and to work I have to get heated and cooled leather seats with a TV in the dash. Why don't dealers stock work trucks with work options.

[@k.r.v.4219]

Hello again Andre and Nathan! But the fact the E-Torque Hemi is available in the Tradesmen and still under 48k, especially at certain dealers I’ve seen regular Hemi Tradesmen Crew Cab 4x4, with 3:92 gearing at 40k out the door with all incentives! As far as downhill, of course the bigger engine will have more braking power to use engine vacuum to slow down. So I’ll take mine in a TRI-White Coat Laramie, with the reg Hemi, 3:55 gearing and the Brown/Frost Interior! With the Tow Package and 33 gal gas tank! That I’ve seen on Dealer lots here in Central Florida for the great price of 46k!

[@jmj267]

I think the V6 Tradesman looks awesome and white but I believe the 2.7 Ford was better going uphill by far I sure would like to see that go up the Ike stock trim. I'll look back at the old videos to see if I can catch one

[@paulhunter9613]

The 2.7 was worlds better towing up the Ike, 400 lbs of torque and lighter truck overall. It didn’t have to spin up to 6500 rpms to get its power The 2.7 was designed to be used turbos , not an add on

[@garysisk3431]

Great review, great comparison, but you need to take the background music off of Hemi mode. Its hard to hear what you guys are saying. I own both the Hemi in my 1500 Ram pickup and the v6 in my Heep Grand Cherokee. Both engines are great, and well suited for the application I have them in. But for any kind of long distance towing the Hemi fits the bill much better. Chrysler has really upped their game in the last number of years. Imagine the v6 with turbo's, woooooooooo

[@mountainhobo]

It seems the upgrade to the 5.7 is well worth it, but I like the interior of the Tradesman better than the Limited because I prefer open space to a center console.

[@michaelizquierdo6907]

I have a laramie( middle option) don't need to go all out with a limited, If I have any recommendation for anyone considering a Ram, unless you care about the fancy interior get a Big Horn with a hemi and a quad cab.

[@markryl-kuchar2373]

If you also noticed the temperature gauge in the cluster versus the digital in the information display the needle never moved and the engine is close to getting in the danger zone

[@lukestoyz]

Mark Ryl-Kuchar yes!. So how could you trust the gas mileage without checking at the pump

[@scottfurlong5475]

You can't even see the temp gauge.

[@Chevy0024]

Gentalmen could you do the same with the gm turbo 4 banger vs the small 5.3 v8 ???

[@spareparts7630]

Well, GM has been making 5.3s since 1998 so I'm sure it's been done. The old 5.3 is making the same hp and more torque than the newer 3.6 so I would say it can do it. I would be more afraid of the 4l60 transmission in the older 5.3 trucks.

[@Chevy0024]

@@spareparts7630 how has it been done when gm just released the turbo 4 banger ??

[@spareparts7630]

@@Chevy0024 Actually read what I wrote. I specified the 5.3. The 2.7 turbo just came out and I don't know anything about it so I'm not going to spout off about it.

[@GodRam1988]

No mater the results I’d take the 5.3 any day I wouldn’t touch that 4 banger. I don’t trust that little engine haha

[@davemalouin]

I'd like to see the comparison between the hemi and the 3.0 diesel on this course to see how much advantage there is in purchasing the diesel option. Does it tow better, and will it achieve better mpg?

[@kahuna9986]

Comparison of engine , suspension system was excellent. I have the 5.7l v8 etorq and I am learning alot through your videos.

[@williamarden5441]

44k for a V6 I could never justify. I don't mind a V6 engine, but that's way up there. I think I would go with the midsize as the towing would be around the same, with way more options for the same price.

[@ChrisH421]

That 44k is closer to 37-38k right now after rebates and discounts

[@abramar123]

To be fair you get huge discounts on V6 trucks, you could probably pick one up for like 33k. No one would pay MSRP for a base model Ram.

[@JsGarage]

Shit discounts are heavy on these. Could get a big horn for $38K with a V8.

[@DeltaSierra426]

Agreed unless it was a V6 turbo diesel. I'd just pay the ~$1500 to upgrade to the Hemi. Even if not towing, it's going to increase resell value. Too each his own though and it is good to have the V6 option for economy with no or low loads.

[@williamarden5441]

If I was to pay anywhere near 40k it would be for the new ranger. Wonder if they will ever bring the Dakota back

[@russellgoodman6830]

I loved the video. Only thing I would ask is if they would do it with the v8 towing 11,500 lbs so we could see what it does at about it's limit. Just considering the v6 was running at it's limit.

[@kevinlacroix3279]

Cccccccccf

[@ds6872]

Great video, I dig the budget truck test

[@makerofmanythings8447]

I got the 2019 Ram 1500 longhorn with mountain brown interior, air ride, 3.92 gears, elocker rear axle, 4×4, bed utility package, tow package, panoramic sunroof, 12" screen, lane assist, adaptive cruise control, and lane departure, self parking, rear power window, and that AWESOME INTERIOR, the list goes on and on. I got it used with 4,456 miles. I paid $47,789 for a 68,000 dollar truck My point is NEVER BUY NEW VEHICLES!! IT'S NEVER WORTH IT.

[@GDBStudios]

Sounds like Tradesman with a V8 is the way to go then?

[@jeffgrise4386]

Time to take the f150 3.3 up the ike

[@nastang87xx]

I feel like Nathan had super high expectations and every time they were met (which seemed to be constantly) his subtle reactions were basically saying "well, isn't that a sonovabitch..."

[@holybuba]

Thank you THANK YOU thank you. . This is the test I want to see..running the trucks WOT up the ike is yalls thing but this is the comparison stuff I love

[@RedWingsninetyone]

I'd like to see more comparisons like this between the premium and work trucks.

[@jerseymike47]

I love that when you hopped into the v6 truck that it was set to the Grateful Dead channel 💙⚡️🥀❤️

[@jamesklinkhammer7539]

Driving a 21 ram big horn , no center console (6 feet 6) hemi etorque .... sold 11 ford ecoboost supercrew in 3 day's. Ram trucks rated #1 by consumers reports, Ram trucks really made improvements, interior ,ride ,8 speed German transmission technology

[@Mike_Y.]

Nice vid guys

[@greghale717]

thanks NevadaMike, on the Ram Forums, for this being your FAVORITE video! :-)

[@rocketj7449]

Nice Ike Gauntlet video, but you know, seeing a Ford V10 maxed out towing up the Ike would be amazing! Jus saying Andre!

[@mattcaser6581]

Fun review/comparison....as he complains about the V6 lack of power....right as he passes a MDT pulling a fifth wheel camper up the Ike. That, boys is "the real" world....get over in the right lane on the steep hills and hang for a while with the MDT's and HDT's.

[@spareparts7630]

I'm curious how a 5.7 E-torque with the standard 3.21 gear would compare to a non E-torque 5.7 with the 3.92s.

[@LancelotLinkSecretChimp]

My non-Etorque 5.7 Sport with 3.92 gears got 15 city and the Etorque is suppose to get 17. Not sure about highway driving.

[@chrishawkesford6900]

Just wondering, what would be the difference if you used Cruise Control set at a certain speed while going down hill? Would it automatically down shift to hold a speed so there is no requirement to brake?

[@paulramsay6589]

The background soundtrack is too much, to loud , turn it down dude

[@Mixwell1983]

HUHH?? YOU GOTTA SPEAK UP, I CANT HEAR YOU

[@jaimerivera2414]

Dont know if anyone mentioned it, but Love the mountain views. 😁

[@theDustytexan]

I'm late seeing this, but maybe I can still get an answer. The tow limits were over 4000 lbs different. What's the opinion if the v6 was towing a camper at 4000lbs. How would it perform?

[@BB-nn9en]

I agree. They should test all the base engines against a honda ridgeline. 3.3 ford, 3.6 ram, etc. They're in the same price range.

[@jeffmorse645]

Live at sea level and don't tow (just occasional garden and furniture hauling). I think the V6 would be fine for me.

[@donovanturner6284]

I was wanting you guys to do this video!

[@remb9614]

All in all both trucks towed the load. If you just need a cheaper truck to tow under 7k pounds get the v6 and save money all around. These cheaper trucks are still full size and they get work done. Very impressive and don’t forget this was an extreme test

[@MOJeepr]

Love this side by side test, wish you had made it a 3 way with the Eco Diesel

[@crazyhass84]

No eco diesel in the 2019!!! Promised but not confirmed for 2020.

[@NomadicSociety]

man i would feel terrible doing that torture test on the v6 model,if it was mine- 6500rpm to the wood up a true mountain max towing 7k i baby my stuff but a great torture test

[@1165slugman]

My Ford E250 work van struggled up that hill from silverthorne to the Eisenhower tunnel without a trailer. Semi's go like 30mph up it lol

[@codysmith9813]

You can also get this v6 with the optional 3.55 rear gears instead of the standard 3.21.

[@TheJoncic]

Need to do a base truck Ike shootout. Ford 3.3 vs GM 2.7 vs FCA 3.6

[@smarticus6384]

GM in their WT or Custom trim doesn't get the new 2.7l.

[@EGGINFOOLS]

@@smarticus6384 it will in 2019 because the v6 is going away.

[@smarticus6384]

@@EGGINFOOLS I looked at the Chevy website. For 2019 the 2.7L is the base engine for the LT and RST trims only. Maybe things will change for 2020. But as far as 2019 the lower trims, i.e., WT & Custom cannot be equipped with the 2.7L.

[@TheJoncic]

Yeah the 4.3 wont be sold with much volume so comparing the 2.7 still makes more sense.

[@smarticus6384]

@@TheJoncic The Ford 3.3L base is also the least sold volume engine in the Ford lineup. The volume trim is the XLT with 2.7L, so you may have a point. Compare Ford-2.7L-TTV6 / Chevy-2.7L-TI4 / Ram 3.6L.-V6

[@RileyAaron90]

It seems real world mpg is favoring the Hemi. Good news!

[@bryane2857]

Now when they do a 98 mog loop and check the numbers by paper and see if the computer is accurate. Than and only had will I believe that number

[@patamaran]

real world? when in the real world do you tow to the limit of the truck's rating on a massive incline, flat out, in the mountains? buy the truck that fits your needs and use case. In the real world 90% of people would never do this, and if they needed to do this regularly, they would buy the v8 or the eco-diesel. of course the v8 is going to tow better than the v6, but if you arent towing in these scenarios, the v6 is a great little engine that really shines in fuel economy.

[@scottmckeighan1201]

Put 3.92 gears with the v6 and see how it works. I'm an owner of a 2018 express and it's a v6. It's very reliable. And average winter economy in the north east is 20 mpg. Summer average is 25mpg.

[@michaelneuhaus4432]

Enjoy your videos very informative

[@scotturich]

I love my new 2019 RAM; that I can turn the camera while driving to look at my trailer and make sure that everything is good. Love your guys reviews (actually how people use them)

[@MichaelBrown-gw8ez]

I would love to see Tradesman V6 vs Tradesman V8 both with 3.92 gears.