2023 Toyota GR Corolla vs Honda Civic Type R vs Hyundai Elantra N // DRAG RACE + LAP TIMES

[@joebro391]

Am I the only person absolutely shocked at how good that Elantra N sounds?

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

Elantra n is a excellent vehicle obviously but not good as the gr or ctr.

[@KKK-no8ex]

@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 Considering the cost Elantra N beats both

[@arucious]

@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 it’s $10k less than a circuit GR. the DCT would melt both of these. It’s better lol

[@rondail5675]

I own a 2015 Honda Civic and a 2022 Honda Ridgeline. I would take the Elantra-N for what offers and the price.

[@limitedreach4446]

@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 Stop being a fanboy. The Elantra N costs significantly less than those two. Who expects it to be better? It still offers most of what those do. This is from a Honda fan.

[@justchilaxe123]

It still amazes me how a 3 cylinder can push 300 hp...

[@safianlepirica6652]

600 hp is max

[@Chr1st1ansen10]

If you check Best MOTOring, they had GR Yaris pushing 440hp on STOCK internals. That little engine is mental.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Why? It's just rpm and boost. F1 has been doing this for years

[@أبوشعلان-ض6خ]

toyota has everything. toyota can kill the competition but there is something wrong with them like they dont want to.

[@user-ve9tu5rv6e]

@@Welcometofacsistube car enthusiasts know the difference between road cars and race cars and know not to compare them both

[@Trav_K]

I think the Elantra N DCT would’ve made this much closer. But I understand that manual vs manual vs manual is more even!

[@Elios0000]

yeah he didnt use Grin Shift either and likely wasnt in N mode

[@TeamGun]

@@Elios0000 Grin Shift isn't available on the manual, and the button becomes a rev matching button in the manual.

[@StarForgedTCG]

@@Elios0000 manual doesnt have NGS, and also doesnt have launch control

[@CleverCheetah]

DCT wouldn’t even be fair. There are other videos on it already and the EN with DCT beats the Type R in a drag not roll by Samlegions video. The NGS boosts and quick shifts make a huge difference. A guy made a video in the Veloster N DCT beating a GR Corolla in a roll race so theres that too. The GRs AWD will win a drag hands down all the time tho. Anyway EN is an underrated beast with DCT. In manual…. At least its more fun i guess.

[@rishi4828]

@@CleverCheetah idk why but many hyundai cars go underrated by the market, kinda same case here with the Indian car market

[@jm9371]

I love how Kartson is always the stern-faced, unemotional Nemesis in these races... keep using him in this role; it adds a STIG element to the show.

[@davidanderson5411]

🤣👍

[@GauravSingh-nz7hi]

And James will always be as usual, a funny idiot buddy who knows to keep laughing in all the situations 😄😄

[@GauravSingh-nz7hi]

And James will always be like a funny idiot buddy who knows to laugh in any of the situation 🤣😂

[@1nonly178]

he's so steady 😂

[@raysal5149]

Coolest dude 😎

[@Guiggs17]

Glad to see hot hatches being popular again, definetly a relief from this SUV only market. Now I really want to see hot station wagons back like in Europe.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. Maybe in Africa it could be cool.

[@kevinmontoya7318]

Kinda late for non EV's. If anything dodge would have brought it back with a SRT8 badge, but since everyone's going ev, maybe you'll see Holden release a ev wagon

[@ilpatongi]

Ford just killed the Fiesta and Focus here! So I don't think they're coming back.

[@95VR407FA5]

That's why I got a RS6. Dad wagon

[@2010ngojo]

Popular? What other hot hatches are there? Golf r? Always been there.

[@oscarmontes921]

Elantra N has an Octane learning feature which sux because I’m not sure it it was octane learned at the time of the video. Increases boost by roughly 4psi.

[@comeberza]

3 cool and impressive cars. What I learn from this is that it doesnt matter what one you bought, you can enjoy some winding roads with your friends. That Elantra is monstrous

[@purwantiallan5089]

Elantra still cant match Corolla GR tho.

[@williambellisIII]

Yup. They’re all great. Nitpicking over minuscule time differences is comical.

[@comeberza]

@@williambellisIII i hover over the comments and find Americans whining and arguing about them or their 1/4 mile as if they weren't all basically able to beat a Ferrari from the 90s

[@williambellisIII]

@@comeberza It’s silly. It used to be 1/4 listings in magazines. Now it’s drag races on KZbin, for cars not designed for drag racing. Many American enthusiasts obsess over these things.

[@freezor80]

It would come down to the driver in a race.

[@alia.alsafar2978]

We are living in a world where an Elantra and Corolla are doing laps in a track

[@miciavelli]

Against a type r!

[@alia.alsafar2978]

@@miciavelli exactly

[@miciavelli]

@@alia.alsafar2978 might have to trade in my M2 for the Elantra. Sike! Haha all jokes a side isn’t someone from bmw working with Hyundai

[@redrock861]

@@miciavelli uh, ya. The guy who was in charge of the M division. This would be a more reliable car than BMW, that won't break your wallet with maintenance.

[@jeffspaulding5116]

@@miciavelli Albert Biermann, The guy who ran BMW’s M division for the E39 M5, E46 M3 and the 1M.

[@gettcouped]

I like how you added a bit more than just the drag race. I know how people love and sometimes get too obsessed with drag races and 0-60 etc. However, the lap time stuff is really fun for you to describe how the car really acts. Man cars are so good right now! What a time to be alive! Great job!

[@Corbots80]

People care about straight line speed. Because that is what most people do with their cars daily. Very few buy them to only run on the circuit

[@refillz5281]

That GR corolla has a very stout engine. I know people joke about it having a 3cyl, but it's been opened up and tested. It's a beast!

[@mitchjames9350]

It can get over 500 hp and most likely 600+ in time.

[@opadilla123]

Yes it gets 500 once you open up the engine and forge every piece of it . Because it already was tuned up to 500hp and didn’t hold up much before it poped parts of its valves 😂 its a three pot what more can you expect from a 3 piston car 300hp if crazy for 3 cylinder toyota is clever they know it was not good to put the supra 4 cylinder turbo in to the corolla gr because it would destroy the supra sales thats the engine it needed to be a true competitor to the hot hatch world .

[@LizardMane]

@@mitchjames9350 bye bye reliability

[@mitchjames9350]

@@LizardMane it’s legit reliable, Motive Video made it work and also plenty of people who took the engine apart have noted it’s really well engineered.

[@LizardMane]

@@mitchjames9350 I'm team gr corolla all the way so ima hold you to that. It still blows my mind how a small engine could hold so much power but then again f1 been doing it for ages

[@zyloe25]

Can't wait for you guys to get your hands on the new type R.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Jaime Aldo, what if those three tried those hands on Integra and Civic Type Rs on all generations.

[@route66garage59]

Type r’s are overhyped new integra is a legit girls car 💁🏻‍♂️

[@coreyr1990]

@@route66garage59 I'm curious as to how the Type-R is overhyped? It's widely the best track hot hatch available in all markets. It set the standard for all other hot hatches to beat. What's overrated about it?

[@DaNNy_DodgeSpain]

@@coreyr1990 the best is Seat Leon Cupra R 310 manual Limited Edition ;)

[@desmondmitchell5602]

@@route66garage59 word!!!

[@RedLine_90]

I will be buying my Elantra N around April! CANT WAIT

[@benjaminbrown7127]

9 months later, how do you like it?

[@Unknownuser0515]

He accidentally bought Elantra N-line Jk

[@samgrover2171]

@@Unknownuser0515 Haha, I have it too,

[@elenchus]

it's amazing how good the aging Civic Type R still is. I think it has been pretty well demonstrated that it was a full generation ahead of the competition

[@Ammar-go8jp]

I love the type r

[@brothaman1312]

Honda does sport compacts better than anyone - always has

[@bagofsunshine3916]

In performance? yes. In Looks? ehhhh, that's very much debatable.

[@kingexpithia]

@@brothaman1312 M2?

[@kobedabest]

2008 Evo X would liked to have a chat. 🤣

[@shrijanaryal4923]

You gotta realize elantra n which is 10k cheaper beat gr corolla circuit edition. Core edition times would only be worse. What a great car as it is from the factory. Hats off.

[@francisgomes9976]

Forgetting DCT N would beat both cars by few car length

[@Eugen-E]

Elantra doesn't have AWD, so in winter is worse + it didn't beat the corolla because it has the same lap time 🙂

[@ryan702_]

Even when I'm not terribly interested in the cars in the video, your videos are always entertaining and well produced. And thank you for not berating us with your sponsors throughout the entire video... Your videos are about the cars, and not a giant ad. Its much appreciated these days.

[@nevethena7450]

The race we all been waiting for since the GR Corolla was annouced lol. Thanks guys. Also love that color on the CTR, rarely seen that color in person.

[@purwantiallan5089]

The Blue colour give this car a lively feel.

[@nevethena7450]

@@purwantiallan5089 I like subtle instead.

[@Hondaddy]

You are right Sonic grey pearl is by far the best color. Literally changes color throughout the day

[@PaulJmnz]

@@Hondaddy that's not a sonic gray pearl tho. That's polished metal metallic.

[@Bbc418]

This is a ugly type R, only nice one is the all new one!!

[@NissanR33Ztune]

Nicely done, impressed with the fair comparison

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. Their comparisons seemingly better than in Carwow somehow.

[@wbwayne8887]

Fair? They didn't hot lap the Type R.

[@MaxPwr176]

I shopped all three of these cars (fl5). The EN was the only one without $10k mark-up. No regrets, especially since it's the only one that can do a 20 minute track session without issue.

[@kareem9465]

I think I would to see you guys test drive the Morizo edition really excited for that one. Keep up with the good work

[@purwantiallan5089]

Morizo knows this the best.

[@pinkipipe]

Looking at numbers and what people saying after driving Morizo Edition … Morizo will eat all of them , including New Type R .

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

oh wait he is on the manual N??? silly the DCT is much faster lol

[@klasseact6663]

It's a 100 lbs lighter, BFD🙄

[@dknight25]

@@pinkipipe The GRC numbers are not favorable against the outgoing Type R, so certainly less favorable still against the incoming one. It'd be shocking if the Morizo edition does a better lap time. Not impossible, but on equal conditions and driver it would be unlikely from what we know.

[@bleachyunknown2000]

Elantra N reminds me of a Megane RS in desirability aspect, when it comes to the European market. It's not that desirable, not that well known, but it destroys the competition (talking about the Megane mostly) when it comes to the overall driveability, car feel, track use (Golf R, Audi S3, Golf GTI Clubsport etc) Hyundai might not be yet on this level, we need to see more tests of course, but they're on the right track in my opinion, you get the point hopefully.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Megane RS and Megane 16V are still cool tho.

[@bleachyunknown2000]

@@purwantiallan5089 I'm happy with my Megane RS 265 Cup, and I never even considered it!

[@damienfrizzell9394]

No one can afford a Megane

[@tuchlawson5244]

Destroys type r when it comes to drivability, car feel, and track?

[@joec.5009]

desirability changes very very fast. Demand on these new hyundais are insane. this all changed with Ionic 5, EV6, g70, gv70, veloster N, telluride/palisade, and now elantra N. Don't forget N Vision 74 which is the hottest concept in a decade. Young people really don't know how bad Hyundais were. They are now looking this brand as a shiny new hot brand people can't stop talking about. i'm in my mid 40s and i grew up in an era where you wouldn't want to be caught dead in hyundai/kias. i was civic/integra boy ricer at heart. now i want this N so bad. if you asked me if i would ever desire a korean car just 5-6 years ago then i would laugh at you and call you names. again, we are in a different era. everything is changing so fast. it's kinda scary if you ask me.

[@koolone3791]

The Elantra N is cheaper and the interior is much better looking and it's not a slouch. If you want an automatic fun car to drive with some pep. Go for the Elantra N.

[@KatoKaelin-t9o]

hyndais suck--like a lot

[@jdexpert4847]

The N is manual lol

[@josephsanchez8254]

For automatic fun, the Kona N is the better choice

[@averagebro413]

Please more lap times, i love the lap times most! and Type R is one of my dream cars, i just love it so much, even though it looks weird.

[@Canaz73]

Dream bigger! 😂

[@purwantiallan5089]

Corolla GR still better than this type R.

[@williambellisIII]

@@purwantiallan5089 “better” is mostly subjective when it comes to these hot hatches, clearly.

[@dlombana161]

@@purwantiallan5089 better how? Quicker?...maybe not considering most tests have a CTR lapping quicker than the Hyundai Ns on other tracks and they look to be just slightly ahead of the GRC. All are great, stop being THAT guy...

[@Visionary-]

@@purwantiallan5089 better? Yeah no…

[@JasNeo13]

After the races I'd love to hear Karston's thoughts on how it went as well rather than have him just stand by for the next one

[@larsgibson1915]

Was the Elantra N octane learned? If it were a DCT, and had it gone through octane learning, that car would have won every time

[@aono335]

So awesome to see Elantra N punching above its weight and coming on top. And it sounds awesome too! Great vid and the corolla looks mean.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Elantra N has 329bhp and a 168mph top speed at best.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

"coming on top"? it came last in the dig and roll race.

[@CapFlipGaming]

A lot cheaper, quieter interior, better sounding exhaust, and an excellent DCT. It's a no-brainer

[@interceptingfist5682]

I would argue the Corolla is punching aboi it's weight class. You know with the whole 3 cylinders thing 🤣

[@AzNightmare]

*It honestly isn't punching above it's weight. It's just that everyone sees Hyundai as inferior. They made this car to literally compete in this segment, so it's not really a surprise it can hang with the Golf R, Type R, and GR Corolla.*

[@DTEL77]

The Elantra N is ready for the track too, no brake fade or overheating right out of the box. Its truly great.

[@porfiriato84]

Well they specifically made it for the track dude.

[@ivanguerrero921]

@@porfiriato84 the gr86/Brz are also made for the track yet their brakes will fade in the hands of a novice. Furthermore, the CTR is also made for the track dude yet it has cooling issues. From what I’ve seen, those N cars don’t even have cooling issues. Solid track cars from the factory.

[@koten7050]

Bring in the fact that the elantra is 10k less, it makes the elantra beyond expectation tbh

[@savagegeese]

Gonna have to see how the GR falls off with heat. At press event it felt sluggish as day went on under extended usage.

[@RelaxAndSmokeMeth]

the more videos I see of the GRolla the less I'm impressed by it.

[@xlaz7]

@@RelaxAndSmokeMeth Gotta thank Ford

[@surfside75]

Yeah so heat sink is a thing when trying to push that tiny 300hp 3 cylinder. - Toyota add a water inject for extra air cooling in the intercooler?

[@jmmch3358]

Very interesting comment. And the price makes a huge difference. The Veloster N and Elantra N are better deals. For a price cost of $40K I rather buy a Camaro SS

[@sv2697]

That is kind of like every street car from type R, Focus RS to Corvette.

[@KrumBlood]

I drove the new Elantra N on a track last week. It was such an amazing car to drive! My previously RWD-only wishlist now has a FWD nearly at the top :) I can’t wait to try the GR Corolla!

[@vjd222]

You definitely won’t regret it. I’ve owned mine since December and still cannot wait to get in it every day

[@t.k.morris]

@@vjd222 Did you get the DCT or manual? What is your MPG avg if not driving like a hooligan?

[@vjd222]

@@t.k.morris I got the manual. My first one and I’m so stoked about it. When I’m at my place in Va I drive like a total hooligan.. it’s all windy country roads out here. I usually am around 31 mpg still. But when I’m in Florida it’s not as great with constant stoplights and traffic

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@vjd222 vjd, i bet that the Elantra still good actually.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@t.k.morris DCT.

[@boyutang6990]

Imagine the Corolla circuit is 30k more expensive than Elantra N

[@briansweagan9659]

Type r is pretty neat not going to lie.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. Also did Type S.

[@RRSmurf]

Thank you for not lying.

[@ryanbutler9964]

next month is 2 years of ownership for me. Best car I've ever owned. bought mine new and have put 28k on it. Dont a lot of work on it too. It just slices through everything you put at it. its a grocery weapon, track weapon, back road weapon, highway weapon and I fan fit a 65" TV box in it.

[@ThatENGuy]

Im amazed man i asked for this video with the elantra when the first vid with the corolla came out a week ago and boom. These guys deliver

[@joebrownjr.4655]

Imagine if the Hyundai Elantra had a dct instead

[@slasheerr946]

Elantra N with DCT would be faster than these both. I love how it sounds too! Great car overall!!

[@U2HS1D]

01:57 🇰🇷N exhaust 🔥

[@dan725]

What a great time to be a car enthusiast. Great youtubers like TH who does it the best, coupled with now several options for a safe, reliable, affordable, fun cars!!

[@porfiriato84]

And in one year we will see how the new mustang GT will perform. And I'm not even a stang guy but gotta admit it's a good looking car

[@nateg5915]

$40k's Cars are not exactly affordable dude

[@porfiriato84]

@@nateg5915 well no but say your trade in value is 10k + 5k down... 25k isn't too bad 👀

[@ed_architecture]

That Elantra N seems to be great value for money!

[@Megacooler96_]

Toyota showing they can still make badass cars and I love it

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

Agreed

[@ashes2ashes863]

You have a very odd definition of what badass is.

[@spicysnowman8886]

I love the b58 and the new supra but it makes me wonder why they didn't just make it themselves.

[@mouaxiong8618]

​@@spicysnowman8886 been explained so many times already idk how youre still confused about it. Biggest example is the nissan 400z. Bassicly a modifed infiniti q60 chassis. Toyota had nowhere to start since they haven't made a car in thar class in a decade. The z4 was modified and the b58 was ~secretly~ modified by toyota by the next few revision.

[@csfplay]

See you can buy and brand new Elantra N, modify the front end and get a full tune while STILL costing less than a new GR Corolla and Civic Type R

[@Scottross93]

The difference is, in 3 years the CTR and CGR will both be worth more than you paid, and the Elantra will be ready to be traded in.

[@TheFK8Life]

And you would still be slower than a basic bolt-on Type R that makes 450hp without much effort or one like mine that makes 620hp with a baby drop in turbo upgrade Hyundais get wrecked lol

[@FB6K24Z7]

Cool story bro

[@assizetech9059]

But also comes with less reliability, less value & more recalls.

[@innatecreativity1834]

joebro I concur...that "N" sounds great. Much better than the other 2!

[@Jslife007]

These vids keep getting better, unlike topgear.

[@HELLF1RE9]

True

[@kareem9465]

@@HELLF1RE9 topgear is now dead their golden age is long gone

[@pompano_jedi172]

There is a topgear?

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

Top gear was dead long time a ago .i used to be fan boy of top gear.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@kareem9465 Top Gear already dead since Season 18.

[@LucasSi919]

Throttle house you never disappoint! You are the first one to drop top notch videos that us enthusiasts anticipate and cant wait to see and for that we thank you!

[@sunchon9229]

I'm really curious if you guys could put track time comparison on Elantra N manual vs DCT vs new Type R around the track.

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

New Type R is going to get smoked 🤣

[@dknight25]

Last gen Type R does better lap times than a Elantra N DCT. One can assume the gap will widen when the new one comes out.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

​@@boygonewhoopdataZZ your comment aged like a turd covered in burnt hair

[@tahditon9408]

@@boygonewhoopdataZZ have you smoked something? 🤔

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

@@tahditon9408 Y'all the ones on crack 🤣, the Elantra Manual is only a split second slower than the last one and they were able to improve the GOLF R's time by a whole second in their FL5 comparison. The DCT would be neck to neck with the FL5 without a doubt.

[@ENtense]

Great video! It’s nice to see a non-biased detailed comparison. I love my Elantra N, but I do look forward to seeing the new Type-R’s capabilities.

[@saleenS7]

@Damar Fadlan Why not? Just look at Mat Watson Comparing old ferrari with Hyundai.

[@markg7213]

@Damar Fadlan ???? Did you just not see it slightly edge out the Gr on the track ?

[@ATerminalJunkie]

The new type R is the same old type R. They have the same engine (a little more power), gearbox, chassis, suspension, and tires. It just looks different inside and out. I'm guessing it will be top but not much better.

[@greymark420]

@@ATerminalJunkie Closer ratio gearbox, completely different tyres, stiffer chassis, individual mode. Yes just like the last FK8, don't think so.

[@ATerminalJunkie]

@@greymark420 i have those tires on my 8th gen. You get a whopping 9 more hp, from the exact same engine and the gearbox is actually the same gearbox, the same chassis, but believe what you want. Its the same car.

[@quandalemuncher2337]

I would like to see the dct elantrans track time would probably be even faster.

[@poiuyzq]

Who buys an automatic to drive for fun though?

[@Mmb0927]

Right dct model should be ran with these cars Next time

[@kingGfour]

wouldn't be fair for the gr lol it barely beat the manual plus im sure the EN doesn't have the fuel relearn which makes peak psi 19 instead of 15

[@syphonh11]

I'm wondering the same thing

[@alexaustin5664]

It's heaps quicker mate

[@huckin_b]

I recently purchased an Elantra N, very happy with it. At least in my province: Type R 53K, Corolla 55K, Elantra N 40K. I'm happy with it's performance at that price. The Civic Si manual is 37K here, with a much worse warranty if you're worried about such things.

[@BWTECH0521]

damn, for the price, that Elantra N is very impressive. Sounds the best out of these cars too!

[@godzilla7391]

Kudos to the Elantra N engineers, getting that car to punch above its weight class.

[@bOOSTEDjOSH]

@@dark6c159 not true

[@dark6c159]

@@bOOSTEDjOSH There’s a hack that makes stealing Hyundai and Kia cars easier-and thieves are taking note BYTOM KRISHER AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS September 23, 2022 at 2:44 AM Some Hyundai and Kia cars and SUVs are missing a “key” anti-theft device, and thieves know.

[@chicago1680]

What cars does it "pounce" lol

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@chicago1680 OP meant the price ya numb nut. You can get the EN for $10k USD less than the other two.

[@robg2732]

@@chicago1680 its 10k MSRP below the Corolla....

[@williamk1800]

The value of the Elantra N is immense, easily sounds the best among this trio, and is the only one that comes with a sunroof.

[@porfiriato84]

Well you have to be specific bro. It only comes with a sunroof if you get the dct. Not in the manual.

[@williamk1800]

@@porfiriato84 In Canada, we get the sunroof on both transmission choices.

[@porfiriato84]

@@williamk1800 well Canada isn't a country. Lol jk man. Well that's cool tho. I was interested in EN but not anymore.

[@LXIXBK]

If I’m looking for an enthusiast car I don’t want a sunroof

[@porfiriato84]

@@LXIXBK I really don't understand people who HAVE to have a sunroof. Personally when I had my 07 Scion tc for 8 years I rarely ever opened it up. All it really does is add extra weight.

[@flyin18t]

Very interesting. I'm glad they pointed out the difference a good tire can make relative to lap times. The DCT version of the Elantra N would have tied or edged out the Type R in the dig race, and possibly beaten the Corolla in the roll race as they are faster than the manual....however, I'm happy they were consistent with all manual transmissions for this comparison. Great vid, thank you!

[@cainankitts7216]

This. ^ Dyno has shown the dct Elantra N puts more power down stock to stock with the manual. Hyundai gave it a little bit more to account for the losses.

[@1stHalf]

@@cainankitts7216 Yeah that's exactly why people are confused about why sometimes it's faster than what's on paper.

[@chadxlr3978]

The DCT Elantra N would win for sure

[@BensCoffeeRants]

Yep tires are super important but in this case they both had really good tires at least. I kinda wish they'd test cars with the same or as close as possible tires to equalize that difference since most people aren't going to have stock tires on the cars for the life of the vehicle anyway.

[@1stHalf]

@@BensCoffeeRants it's about stock vs stock tho. It kind of balances out the AWD vs fwd with the wheel difference

[@ashescat99]

It amazes me how type r is only slightly faster than the Elantra and it’s so much more expensive. And not as much dealer markups and warranty is better. Hyundai really stepped up their game.

[@ethanieldude1]

It's sad cuz the 2021 type r has the coolest exterior of any car imo. I really don't like the interior though, doesn't even have heated seats for the crazy price and only red as a choice. It got me into cars but I'm gonna end up getting an Elantra, it's better in a lot of ways and is way cheaper. Even comes with a sunroof!

[@destruxandexploze2552]

“This doesn’t do anything badly” *multiple GR Corollas being reported with engine fires*

[@Chaundb]

The elantra N with the DCT woulda make a difference. The transmission is perfectly matched for that engine.

[@jpizel1070]

Not a fair comparison since the other 2 only come in manual.

[@TheDavinci888]

One is the pinnacle of FWD, the other has a rally inspired AWD system. Kudos to the EN for not losing by much!

[@paulklp8262]

​@@TheDavinci888It won against the GRC.

[@U2HS1D]

01:57 🇰🇷N exhaust 🔥

[@taemeister9302]

If EN was DCT, type-r sadly loses. But nobody wants to bring out the DCT EN it would upset too many folks 😂

[@FloydLangston]

Pretty sure it’s a thing I know the sonata is but idk bout the E

[@__red__general2369]

I've had a 2018 Civic Hatch LX as my first car, I couldn't justify paying the insurance for a Type-R at the time, but the spirit of the type R is shared in the Fk7 platform in a way, I had that car for 4 years. I was number 4 in Ontario to acquire/purchase a GR Corolla, but after finding about the Elantra N back in June, I've feel in love. Waited 2.5 months and picked up my Elantra N DCT. It's an absolute machine to drive, especially with the DCT being a excellent transmission for daily driving and tracking driving a like.

[@chiragbhalla5116]

Elantra N is a great car man. Hope to get mine soon.

[@tombellows4167]

Maybe! But to ugly to own!

[@TheCountDook]

@@tombellows4167 you should check the metallic gray same color as the type r and it looks better honestly

[@Courtesyflush52]

@@tombellows4167 I can't see the grille from inside the car, but I can definitely hear that exhaust

[@staylor0902]

The Elantra N is near the top of my list, along with a new GR86. The problem is that in the U.S they're listing at 40+. At msrp I'd buy one tomorrow.

[@xBlackout1]

Shop around. I got my manual 2023 gr86 at 33k

[@hissingoose]

if you want a rubbish dealership experience and an extra fine print warranty that suddenly vanishes; get the hyundai.

[@uncleiroh8665]

I got a GR 86 10th Anniversary Edition which there is only limited amount made along with the top trim and a built in cat back exhaust, all out the door for 34K MSRP. The manual version too. They’re out there man. Be patient.

[@n3gl3ctfounder]

You can get it now for only 37k dct

[@emmanuelortiz2048]

If the EN octane learned before the race, it would’ve been closer

[@Yubuzka3774]

The Elantra N is also cheaper by quite a margin as compared to the other two.

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

Does not matter .gr corolla and upcoming ctr is better .lol.

[@dead_freak_prgaming2290]

@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 of course it matters is not about 2 or 3k difference 🤣

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

@@dead_freak_prgaming2290 well dead funk . Only reason the elantra n had a faster lap time was because of better tires😂. Elantra n lost the drag race and rolling race as well.😂. So funk be real. Gr is more expensive because its better .😂

[@ryanblacklock3005]

When I was shopping for a N I couldn’t find a dealer that didn’t want a 5k mark up. Ended up with a 22 GLI for 1k under msrp. Not as fast but much better interior and still a lot of fun.

[@Ibrahim.961]

@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 what a hater 🤣

[@NRTHRNFJ]

Love your car reviews. Reminds me of the old Top Gear. Awesome editing and video quality. I hope your production gets bigger. Proudly Canadian as well!

[@ironreed2654]

The Elantra is much, much easier to get your hands on then either of the other cars...suspect that will still be true in a year.

[@aono335]

And cheaper too!

[@killculator8124]

Cmon, i got a 2018 elantra sport im never buying the new ones ....theyre so ugly

[@mrnobodytheuser2950]

@@killculator8124 The 18 shape was nice but the new shape is magic, get some taste

[@CleverCheetah]

Because no one cares about it and Hyundai has a horrible reputation for their reliability.

[@apsreen5027]

I can't believe throttle house doesn't have the M340i lap time ..it deserves a spot on this leaderboard..imo

[@GoofieNewfie]

100%

[@markojokanovic349]

These 3 guys (yes, i count the silent third driver) are completely bringing back the content that we wanted to see. An everyday car that everyone can afford. Not just half million Lamborghini etc. I can't wait for the day for Amazon or someone to hire them and start making those 'Specials' world wide as Top Gear/The Grand Tour does. Cheers from a fellow Edmontonian.

[@hammylauw9574]

Why silenced the 3rd driver..🤨

[@markojokanovic349]

@@hammylauw9574 what??

[@tylersmash92]

I have a 2022 Veloster N and I absolutely love it

[@johnnyturbo8460]

I bet the Elantra N with the DC Transmission would be even faster than the GR even with good tires

[@cuprashoe]

The Type R can still dance considering how it's soon to be replaced

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

Well the new one has 315hp but its not more power actually because they are just giving the europe spec to north america lol

[@fernank017]

@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 no. this is completly false. the turbo has been redesigned along with a different exhaust routing and an improved air intake. The power figures are higher across the board, not just in NA. NA still gets a performance deficit compared to the EDM and JDM.

[@jeanblue8424]

@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 And it's heavier.

[@alexc7864]

@@jeanblue8424 well it's already beat its own track records so it's still faster.

[@shivamarya5225]

@@muneebrehman6288 no it's not, it's about 80 lbs heavier than the previous version according to the euro spec

[@TheKingkingg]

Civic still number 1 for me size, features, fun to drive, reliability, built quality and fit and finish, and it's history and present.

[@SlyySmilez]

My coworker just bought a new Elantra N and its pretty sick, it makes plenty of noise to turn heads and looks nice too. Personally ill stick with my charger, but i think you get a great value for your money with the Elantra N!

[@24ecko]

I have a Scat Pack Challenger and the Elantra N has been tempting me lol

[@MK3504]

I thought I would regret getting the Elantra N when I bought it a month ago. Was cross shopping a GR86, but couldn't find one that wasn't marked up. Has to be the best bang for your buck on the market. MSRP plus motor mounts its a blast, eliminates a ton of wheel hop.

[@Yondaily]

Sucks

[@purwantiallan5089]

GR86 still better than this Corolla GR actually.

[@MK3504]

@@Yondaily bro I've seen your comments, you should come back when you can actually afford one kid

[@Yondaily]

@@MK3504 the Elantra and the corolla are the same price still expensive in this market for small compact cars

[@MK3504]

@@Yondaily you don't understand inflation first of all, second a 10k price difference is almost a whole car. The base GR Corolla would get wiped

[@Sonic_1000]

DCT Hyundai would have been the fastest version.

[@tunerhead]

We want more of Karston! he needs to be in every video! so focused!!

[@jonttran1092]

he is basically a DCT, he changes heaps faster than the other two drivers.

[@Apizzle66]

Thank you guys for the consistent and quality content. The type r is cool, but the new one looks so much better. The GR Corolla is inherently cool because its getting 300hp from a 3cyl engine. For the price comparison the Elantra N is in a different stratosphere. It has better lap times, respectable drag/roll race results, it is a first gen variant, has top tier tires, is the best sounding 4cyl ever potentially, and the dual clutch is noticeably quicker...oh and the Elantra N comes fully loaded. I am excited to purchase one for its performance and I am a former charger 392 owner!

[@OutLivex]

While the Elantra N is in its first generation the 2.0 4 banger Turbo started with the Veloster N. They've fine tuned it so you can certainly say that it will hold up for certain.

[@Apizzle66]

@@musoui hmmm sh*t talking a v8?...then what are you doing on the Elantra N vs Corolla GR page?

[@Apizzle66]

@@musoui the GR corolla basically costs as much as a 392 and is slower in some regards right? Kinda hard to compare the two. Its like comparing a grape to a grapefruit lol

[@Apizzle66]

@@musouiYou have to be comparing it to something in order to say the 392 isn't much. I assumed it was for the GR corolla titled in the video we are commenting on and you are a fan of.

[@Apizzle66]

or the Elantra N!

[@psewgobind]

Given Elantra N was .7sec quicker then Golf R in 'mildly moist' track day. It potentially would have gotten 113.78 in the dry track...which is obscenely close to 2023 Type-R's time.

[@defaultdaniel]

manual too, DCT is notably quicker

[@StarForgedTCG]

@@defaultdaniel yep, dct is much faster

[@1Choom]

I love this channel so much!

[@racamon]

You say "a drag race" often, but I don't see you two racing in drag! Make it happen. I don't care how!

[@meCmoni]

fk no

[@jardanijovonovich7317]

the dct Elantra-N is amazing tthough

[@thetorquedork5857]

I love the apples to apples comparison here. Thanks for getting this up so quick. I would love to see what the Elantra with DCT could do to the GR Corolla. Wondering if it would give it a better run for its money 0 to 60

[@Yondaily]

Your asking to much the Corolla gazoo is faster than the Elantra dct

[@PapiAndrey]

I think we all know what the dct would do, it’s quite a bit quicker than the manual

[@PapiAndrey]

I think we all know what the dct would do, it’s quite a bit quicker than the manual

[@BDA0531]

Would literally make no sense comparing a DCT to a manual lol

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

oh wait he is on the manual N??? silly the DCT is much faster lol

[@SuperFitness12]

Overall the N still the Best Buy! And I’m a Honda fan.

[@InspirationLabs-ff8vf]

Elantra N all the way. The amount of tech, value, and fun is incomparable to the others in it's class

[@Kamukix]

Huzzah! I was right on which I thought would be quicker around the track. I REALLY REALLY want to know what the Golf R could've done if it were on even some PS4 tires (PS4S would be cool to know too I s'pose). Regardless of the lap times my actual list of what I'd buy is Golf R, Elantra N, GR Corolla, then Type R. Whichever one I chose would certainly be in manual and I'm SO GLAD that you guys were able to keep the theme of testing ALL of the cars with a manual regardless of what's available or faster. Bravo once again. Did I mention how good it did my heart to see back to back tests of fast cars ALL with manuals? Maybe the good 'ol days aren't over just yet. ✌️😁👍

[@f1colaforyou]

The most impressive thing about the Elantra is not that it had a better lap time than the corolla or that it came close on the roll. Whats amazing is that it costs $14000 less than the corolla. Also, Ive seen them in person and I think it looks great.

[@zetajones3006]

14k less than the circuit edition. You can get the core model for 36k with the limited slip which gives the same performance.

[@f1colaforyou]

@@zetajones3006 Thats in US currency.

[@syphonh11]

Is the Elantra N manual faster than the DCT on the track? I've only owned manual transmission cars but I hear the DCT on this car is far more refined than the manual.

[@StinkySundae]

No the DCT is faster on the track and a drag.

[@frankmanson3]

Have y’all tested the Elantra N DCT? I’m curious if that would’ve done better on the roll and on the dig race. It’s got a 5.1 0-60, vs the 5.9 on the manual. Just some food for thought. I know the rest are manuals but the Elantra does have the automatic option, plus a little boost option for those straight aways… could be fun? 😏

[@purwantiallan5089]

Given note that 3cylinder cars have 300bhp, this is HUGE.

[@johnmarshjr928]

I recommended the Elantra to my stepson and he ordered one 6 speed manual, like step dad’s Camaro. As soon as he got it I threw some mods at it for him to walk the type R’s

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Tune and exhaust?

[@Saeed89]

My ❤GR Corolla, The engine revving sound at the start of the race though 😍

[@siddharthpareek6742]

type-r was expensive for me with all the markups, thats where I found and bought the N. i love that car. it is th best combo I was looking for. I like civic but definitely cant afford the mark ups!

[@MikeJones-on9vm]

I had the same problem, but the N is also marked up to 40k in my area.

[@siddharthpareek6742]

@@MikeJones-on9vm if you are still looking and if you are in ohio, i can suggest you the dealer i got from! no mark up but yes 4 months waiting

[@MikeJones-on9vm]

@@siddharthpareek6742 I’m in Florida, but if anything changes I’ll come back to this comment. Thank you 🙏

[@easylearn9350]

Nice video👍, BTW, the last time Corolla was leaking when you guys were taking after lap timing 🙃, This time Hyundai was leaking (see 9:27) , I will go with Civic 😅

[@morgandrives]

Long live the manual! 💪 Awesome that these great cars still can be had with three pedals!

[@Bigern2998]

Driving each of these cars would put a smile on my face. The price of the Elantra N would keep the smile on my face. I also think I would be more comfortable daily driving it and parking it at a mall.

[@MikeJones-on9vm]

It’s not like you can find one at msrp.

[@gs98999]

These guys are from Canada. It’s not hard to buy at MSRP up here. There are actually a few on the lot right now at msrp. I guess things are much different elsewhere judging by comments here.

[@Bigern2998]

@@gs98999 I am Canadian. The MSRP is significantly less regardless of markups. But I hear you, the US markups sound brutal.

[@Bigern2998]

@@MikeJones-on9vm I am Canadian like the TR guys. I have seen an Elantra N on a lot at MSRP. Type Rs are way harder to find and so gently used ones often sell above $50k. The Elantra N is more obtainable any way you look at it

[@MikeJones-on9vm]

@@Bigern2998 I see. Here in the States the N is going for 40k in my area. It’s not fair to the people.

[@Nperformance20psi]

good evening the elantra n has a maximum performa mode which is by octane reading its change is 15psi increases to 20psi. The Hyundai Manual explains it. in that race was in Performa skid mode at 20psi?

[@daviddonovan3361]

The 8 speed automatic N would smoke both of them.

[@wolfeazy3526]

I'd like to see the DCT elantra over the Manual in this race! It would take the Type R but still fall short to the Corolla

[@atdhemorina3348]

the VALUE of the ELANTRA N is just nutssss

[@IzzyEG6]

Do a GR vs DCT EN...that will even out the AWD advantage.

[@Mmb0927]

Funny thing is the Elantra oil temp was at 89 car needs be at 160 before it makes power it’s much slower I have same car. It’s night day difference when car hits 160 oil temp

[@andywilliamb]

I picked up a 22 Veloster N 2 weeks ago. Had to drive 700 miles to test drive and purchase. SO happy with how it performs already. I got really lucky. It's one of the last ever models made in the US. Had 11k miles on it. Manual. I cannot believe how the stock exhaust sounds... I already got a res delete and I will NOT do anything else. It's perfect as is. I'm utterly shocked at the value for performance.

[@FWCC1]

You guys killed it again,nice video! In the roll the extra horses showed for the Type-R. Very impressive the GR won the drag! Can't wait to get my GR hopefully in November. The price of the Toyota GR is a bit steep but maybe worth it. Keep up the good work guys!

[@sesvid]

I don't get the point why the GR impressed you in the drag race. After all it's the second more powerful - only 6hp down - of the three. On top of that it's the only one that has 4WD. I'm actually surprised that it didn't win by more than that. However, it was obvious that the GR would win the drag race. Otherwise Toyota would have done a pretty poor job.

[@prelvas88]

Watch out with that sticker price… Folks seriously going into this almost willing to pay anything and it’s FOMO at its worst

[@FB6K24Z7]

@@sesvid the GR corolla still has a smaller displacement engine 400cc less and 1 less cylinder also less torque so in the drag and roll race it is impressive for what it is and what it did against the other two it's quite good enough only hp doesn't matter when you have a smaller engine against the competition people who don't like it say things like what your saying the car is impressive and with aftermarket tuning it's only a matter of time it's going to show it's potential just like the Gr Yaris

[@sebbi1214]

Orders start in November... It won't be delivered in November

[@roboticvenom1935]

@@sesvid dummy AWD robs power vs FWD, a 300HP AWD car will be slower then a 300Hp FWD car on a roll race.. also cjvic type r is underrated power wise

[@StinkySundae]

I for one love the looks of the Elantra N

[@Docv10]

This is the video that helped me decide to change my forte GT for the Elantra N. No regrets. The Elantra N is just next level. What an awesome car. Eco mode is fuel saver. And the N mode is just insane

[@DullerCrab]

Does anyone even know you that you can still order a 2023 Chevrolet Camaro LT1 for $43,500 with a 6.2L V8 and a Tremec TR6060 manual transmission??? If the Elentra is a bargain, the Camaro is an absolute mind blowing steal of a deal.

[@williambellisIII]

Some of us need back seats.

[@DullerCrab]

@@williambellisIII I owned a 2022 Camaro 2SS for around 5 months, backseats were small but more than adequate. Had it packed with 4 regular sized adults with no issue, majority of people say they need backseats & grab a sedan/hatch but end up driving alone or with 1 passenger 85% of the time. If kids are the concern, they’ll fit no problem. Mpg was impressive too, consistent 30mpg+ on the highway, only as low as 20 around town, that includes all the fat pulls I was doing. Can’t beat a V8