2020 KTM 250XC TPI First Ride Review - Episode 68

[@scoop3894]

My home trail system. Your right, usually by mid July it's very dusty and hot. It's been great this year. looks like you had perfect timing.

[@Bluebagger61]

Wow, you’re so lucky having these trail systems. Here in Australia the “green” influence is strong and single trail is banned with heavy fines enforced. Our Forestry departments could do well to learn from your departments practices. Meanwhile I’ll ride single illegally but can only dream of riding the sort of stuff you guys have got.

[@scoop3894]

@@Bluebagger61 We have quite a green influence in this province too. We were fortunate that users and government were able to work out an arrangement where we could continue to enjoy the sport. It's not always completely smooth but overall it works. I am thankful for these trails because I know in other areas of the world it's not like this. If I couldn't ride single track I'd drop the sport.

[@1MarkBevans]

Great break in ride, nice day there. Seems to be nice smooth useable powerband, my 250 TPI is very similar. Like your impressions of the suspension. Enjoy!

[@Cooldibs]

For everyone who’s asking where this is at. His channel name is PNW Enduro. PNW stands for pacific north west.

[@PNWEnduro]

Yes and anyone can message me for locations if they like, I just don't post them publicly for various reasons.

[@billsmith9610]

@@PNWEnduro So you are in BC.......good video.

[@stewy_604]

Another good video, thanks for posting! Love our trails here in the PNW!

[@firffighter]

Great introduction to the new steed! Motor sounds like it's got excellent grunt. Awesome area BTW!

[@PNWEnduro]

@firffighter thanks! Yeah it's nice and easy to loft the front wheel over logs on this bike, motor just sounds great too.

[@brianp7938]

Great first ride! Enjoy it, and I'm looking forward to further thoughts.

[@Cross-Country-Biker]

Thanks for the impressions, useable info

[@julianmarin8512]

Hi from Spain i bought this bike like 8 hours ago..... in exc , european version. I waaaaaant to riiiiiiideee

[@PNWEnduro]

Congrats on the new bike, you will love it!

[@justinsimons4125]

I miss riding Naches it’s been 3 years since I been up there and spent the last 2 in Okinawa looking for a new bike now thanks for the review

[@rwright45]

Nice bike. Excellent review. Thanks!

[@SingleTrackTherapy]

Excited for you Greg! That will be my next bike. Enjoy!

[@PNWEnduro]

Thanks. I think you will like it!

[@Trad-Am]

If efi break in is the same as sleds, it's going to be rich and using more fuel, until break in is over.

[@tripracer15]

Man those 250s are starting to sound like 300s! Torque'y!!

[@PNWEnduro]

Yes I love the torque'y sound.

[@lukeabercrombie7884]

literally going at a 90 degree angle PNW Enduro: that was pretty steep

[@trbgeneralconstruction555]

I have the 19 tpi 300 Xc w six days. Debating if I should switch to the 2020. Where are you ridding bud looks amazing

[@martinh2075]

That deer wanted to race :) 3:50

[@PNWEnduro]

@Martin H I was waiting for someone to notice the deer!

[@justinhoffarth8394]

What made you go with the XC over the XCW? I know you like the more technical stuff so I am just curious, Thanks

[@PNWEnduro]

@Justin Hoffarth good question. I previously owned a 200xc-w and never did like the wide ratio transmission. I was always looking for a sweet spot between 2nd and 3rd. The XC transmissions just work better for me.

[@briansargent2834]

Enjoying the content! I just purchased a 2020 250xc w. Wondering what kind of range I can expect to get? I also live in the PNW and will be riding similar terrain as you :) thanks!

[@PNWEnduro]

Probably 70-80 miles on a tank. I've done just over 60 on a ride and had fuel left over.

[@raskolnikov1873]

That scenery looks like where I’m from in the southern interior of BC, Canada. Nice bike too!

[@markhopsecger345]

Did you stay with the 51 tooth in the rear? Also you mentioned 2017 previous was it 250xc? Do you miss how easy the front end came up on the carb bike?

[@PNWEnduro]

Yes, I still have stock gearing. The 2020 tpi's have good throttle response, I don't think it's any harder to lift the front wheel vs the my 2017 carbed xc.

[@DavidSmith-jn5dh]

I’m torn between the 250 and 300 XC-W Thanks for the input on yours. What is your weight? The 250 seems to lug without using clutch with you in those steep areas. I’m thinking the wide ratio 1st and 2 Nd gear in the XC-W should be able to pull 205lbs any where . Right???? Thanks for your input

[@PNWEnduro]

I'm 145 w/o gear. Either xc or xc-w would have no problem pulling 205lbs I would think.

[@ponydown418]

Nice ride and intro review of the bike.

[@stihlms]

Loved my 17' 250xc. I found 96psi in the forks worked awesome.

[@PNWEnduro]

Wow, I have never heard of anyone running that low of air pressure.

[@SkinnySkinch]

@@PNWEnduro Me either. Manual says minimum allowed air pressure is like 101 or 106 something like that. I bet those babies are plush though haha

[@Cee-FJedi]

Thanks for the video. I'm really interested in what the forks are like compared to the last few years. How much different etc

[@PNWEnduro]

@C Fuhry right away they are better than the AER on my 17. They feel more plush in the beginning of the stroke.

[@Cee-FJedi]

@@PNWEnduro thanks for the reply, I'm waiting on the 2020 300 exc and due to the price increases don't really want to buy all brand new fork cartridge kit like I had to on my 18 350 due to the aweful stock suspension. Cheers

[@inthepumpkinpatch5383]

That's a really nice bike it seems to fit you well!

[@PNWEnduro]

Yes I was really comfortable on this bike right away. A few rides in now and I'm loving it.

[@jamesdenton3692]

You commented on the power delivery of the efi vs your 17 carby, did you not experiment with several carbs !!

[@SkinnySkinch]

he's always experimented with carbs. Regular card, Lectrons, smart carb 1 and 2.

[@jamesdenton3692]

@@SkinnySkinch And is the EFI the winner and by how much, is it worth the complexity ,cost ,weight and increased possibility of failure. I understand that advanced electronics will be the way of the future but in the here and now in anywhere other than Europe the euro 4 specs are meaningless .

[@SkinnySkinch]

JAMES DENTON ride one man. You’ll be impressed. It’s not just emissions. Power is electric like, and more usable amount of it. I’m purchasing my second TPI soon. I don’t want my carb model bikes anymore.

[@jamesdenton3692]

@@SkinnySkinchTwo of my riding buddies purchased 2019 300 xcw's and after four months of ride time one is happy ? and the other is thrilled . After holding his feet to the fire and asking what was the biggest improvement over his last ride (a highly maintained and slightly modded 2006 300 xcw ) was he said the chassis .He also said it would be no challenge to get the same job done on the 06 , just a little more effort . A wise man once said " 80% rider 20% bike".

[@garthlundquist8316]

The TPI system meters the fuel more accurately at lower engine speeds. This really helps finding traction in hard enduro situations. The power delivery is very linear. Some guys miss the “ hit” but that doesn’t help in steep sketchy terrain. The tank is smaller because the bike is more fuel efficient. And the suspension gets better every year. The only time my TPI bike runs less than perfect for changing conditions is when the air filter needs servicing. I have 95 hours- zero problems so far.

[@geoffboyd]

What is more fun to ride KTM 250 xcw TPI or Yamaha YZ250x. I want to add another bike because currently I only have a dual sport

[@PNWEnduro]

Both would be fun to ride, depends on your needs. For the riding I do electric start and full size gas tank are a must and the YZ250x does not have those.

[@geoffboyd]

@@PNWEnduro Thanks for the response. I always read on forums and the consensus I have read is that the YZ250x has a better suspension and is lighter weight. 250 xcw TPI has fuel injection, headlight, better power, electric start. Coming from a dual sport I was very attracted to the weight of the YZ but I'm left wondering if the extra weight of the KTM is even detectable. I just care about fun factor primarily.

[@Ibokubok]

Where was this ride at ? I just bought this same bike and absolutely love it!

[@stevematuro8384]

What do you set your air pressure on the fork too ?

[@PNWEnduro]

I run 122 psi in my forks.

[@tenmileoutdoors2184]

Do you run the grey or black throttle cam?

[@PNWEnduro]

Not sure, whatever comes stock on the bike.

[@nothanks2994]

Cali mountains?

[@Drewski423]

I’m going Saturday to buy a 2020 XC. I ride a 250x now and I can’t decide if I want another 250 or to just get the 300. I like the more free revving 250 and on the other hand I think it would be nice to have the extra grunt of the 300. What a decision this is lol.

[@PNWEnduro]

Yes it depends on your riding style but you can't go wrong either way. I'll be getting a 300 next time. Congrats on getting a new ride either way!

[@Drewski423]

PNW Enduro I think I will just do the 300.

[@chriscardoza9714]

Just wandering did they fix all the problems they had in the past.....

[@PNWEnduro]

the 2019's were solid, 2020's seem even better so far....

[@pushmotivation-__asher1335]

Yeah, that was what tipped me as I was just about to get a 19

[@timtadlock8033]

What suspension settings are you at now

[@PNWEnduro]

Same, haven't touched it since day one.

[@makegaminggreatagain3907]

I want a bike again soooo much, not mechanically minded and can't afford the mechanical repair bill to get some one else to do it. Great video bikes sounds amazing and looks like it performs as awesome as it sounds.

[@mts982]

Why did you go 2 stroke and not four??

[@PNWEnduro]

I just prefer 2 strokes. If I could keep two bikes I'd have a 350 four stroke as well.

[@mts982]

@@PNWEnduro Oh okay, nice to know.

[@markgunnison]

Funny how we spend a lot of money on a bike and then beat it up in the woods and enjoy it :-)

[@PNWEnduro]

Yep, 60 miles in the remote mountains of WA today and some fresh scratches. It's hard knowing it will never look that pretty again lol.

[@DvisionScorpio]

@@PNWEnduro well, you can protect most of the parts

[@SteveJones-xq9bp]

Bear Creek?

[@seanwagers7898]

Where is this at?

[@rjmccl243]

The Bear Creek OHV Trail System - West Kelowna, BC, Canada

[@xtrainerchronicles2085]

I think Meg brapps cleared that. Lol

[@SANDS78]

Kickstart?

[@PNWEnduro]

No kick stater. You can add one for around $500.

[@SANDS78]

@@PNWEnduro Ouch

[@cullendrayer7708]

Anyone catch that deer?

[@AtlasEnduro]

I have some tech you can come ride it on. Riding alone is dangerous! Haha

[@PNWEnduro]

@Atlas Enduro I have lots of tech here, but yeah I'll make it down your way one day.

[@AtlasEnduro]

@@PNWEnduro Deal! :)

[@michaelsteven1090]

Why wouldn't you get the 300?..your gonna miss the power on hills.

[@PNWEnduro]

I got by just fine on my 2017 250.

[@snyderhaus]

PNW Enduro I'm curious this also, debating on which to get a 250 or 300. Been riding my 150 coming down from a 300 and I've been absolutely loving it, but miss the power, love how light.. would the 250 be better/similar?

[@PNWEnduro]

@@snyderhaus 250's feel lighter than 300's even though they weigh the same.