2020 NHL Award Winners Revealed

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[@BrodieBr0]

Best hockey entertainment and information source trophy goes to......... **THG**

[@JimboBurrito]

The award should be presented by his good friend Michael Bublé

[@kaydog6299]

@@JimboBurrito Yes, and the trophy should be a bust of Gary Bettman

[@samuelfrick3475]

Ladies and Gentlemen, Shannon is NOT WEARING A JERSEY. I repeat. He’s NOT WEARING A JERSEY

[@yqmlife1757]

Do you not watch his entertainment guy channel

[@samuelfrick3475]

YQM LIFE I was joking smh

[@darrionroberts4100]

Congrats to Hellebuyck. Well deserved.

[@sksaddrakk5183]

Woohoo Josi first Swiss player to win an individual award in the NHL.

[@nickvenuto9803]

So undeserving

[@sksaddrakk5183]

@@nickvenuto9803 that is your opinion. I think he has been one of the best allround defenders consistently over the last 4-5 years...

[@nickvenuto9803]

SKSaddrakk Carlson was on pace for the most points for a D man since 1990, he had 60 assists 15 goals in 69 games... Carlson had more hits, blocks and takeaways than Josi.... Oh and Carlson has a cup 2 years ago, finished in the top 3 norris voting 3 years in a row and led the league in points by a Dman 2 of the last 3 years.... Josi is a product of Toronto media bias

[@sksaddrakk5183]

@@nickvenuto9803 as to the stanley cup: maybe you did not get the memo but a SC is a team effort and has nothing to do with individual trophies. There are a lot of mediocre (for nhl standards) players who can claim one or several stanley cup rings. Ray Borque on the other hand one of the arguably best D in the history of hockey almost did not make it. 99 has not won a SC after he left the oilers. Does that mean he was a crap player in LA, NY and STL? I am not reading US or Canadian news. Why would Toronto media toot Josis horn? He does not play for a CAN franchise (nor did he in the past afaik) nor is he Canadian. I mentioned before in an other post that I do not think that points should be a hard criteria for evaluating how good a defender is. Josi may not have as many checks as carlson. Again checks alone do not make a good defender. To the contrary. I hsve been taught that checks are the last legal resort if you are caught on the wrong foot/out of position. I.e. if you are not out of position there are less occasions where a check is needed. Of course for the crowd it is more exciting if you deliver a solid check than the D being smart not to get in that situation in the first place. But coaches in my experience prefer the smart over the hard ones. BTW you may want to check your facts: This year is the first season Carlson made it into the last three for the Norris. The other two times you probably refer to ERIK Karlsson who won it twice 11/12 and 14/15 and was nominated an other two times 15/16 and 16/17. Josi is third in points in the last 3 seasons (behind Carlson and Burns) but has the most goals out of the three and by far the best +/- stat... further and in addition the forty points lead Carlson has over Josi can be found in the PP points where WSH has an Ovechkin who is just deadly in front of the net... NSH cannot rely on a goal getter of that level... look I am not saying that Carlson is a bad D (far from it) I just think Josi is the better allround defender...

[@lordoflaziness7775]

Nick Venuto Josi played for a bad team and still got poonts and the best +/-. He did it himself. Carlson was lucky he had great teammates, its an INDIVIDUAL not a TEAM award. Right decision 👍

[@aarongrace]

Also happy that the Norris isn’t just the defence man that scores the most points

[@pascalplenge1882]

It is an absolute great day for german ice hockey. Since he was drafted I dreamed of that day. Wow. Always believed in his potential. He always got better with the years. This is awesome.

[@jeremydanchuk1897]

Just want to give a shout out to the Vegas Golden Knights, during their 5 weeks in the bubble they bought pizza for the Boyle St community services center in Edmonton every Monday. It was a class act to help those less fortunate , thank you for being such good guests.

[@agamotto5041]

Their chirping aside , I applaud.

[@Redditaurus]

Even with the disrespect towards the canucks this is nice i guess...

[@agamotto5041]

Thank you for sharing .

[@iCoolaxe]

Josi got the Norris? God damn, I'm very positively surprised.

[@jameskilgour387]

How the hell did Carlson not win, did they just forget the first half of the season?

[@iCoolaxe]

@@jameskilgour387 Probably not. I'm guessing the voters just realized that points aren't the only important factor when measuring a defenseman's performance.

[@NJDevilsWagon]

@@jameskilgour387 carlson is legit a forward

[@sksaddrakk5183]

@@jameskilgour387 Josi was better defensively than Carlson and offensively better than Hedman. He is also more important to his teams success than either Hedman or Carlson. Last but not least the trophy goes to the best D over the whole season not the first 25 games and I was always questioning the importance of points to determine a good defender. What does it do for your team defensively if you are yoloing into the opposing zone and neglect your defensive tasks. I genuinely believe that Josi was the best allround D this season.

[@slitherking621]

@@sksaddrakk5183 buddy John is more To his team. What dum bitch

[@mcdaviddeservesbetter8]

Congrats Leon! 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪 2020 Trophy hattrick! Oilers record without multipoint games from Draisaitl: 10 - 20 - 8 Avalanche record without multipoint games from MacKinnon: 22 - 15 - 4

[@mrstealyoting4940]

Just shows that drai doesn’t affect the game in anything else than offence there’s no point in this stat

[@ryans413]

So your point stats ain’t everything you know

[@LETZGONHLdraft]

How come people dont understand what this guy is trying to say. He is pointing out that when Draisaitl doesnt put up at least 2 points in a game the Oilers are hot trash, while when Nathan doesn't score at least 2 points the Avalanche are a still most likely a playoff team. And I agree points aren't everything but putting up 110 in 71 games is ridiculous, he was on pace to score 127 points, while Mackinnon was on pace to score 110 points (which means Draisaitl scored in points in 71 games what Mackinnon was on pace for in points for 82 games)

[@willg1618]

Just shows that Oilers have no depth lmao

[@rpgeek22]

If josi was injured for the middle of the season the predators wouldnt even have made the play in.

[@Redditaurus]

Greased up deaf guy that is correct they played the coyotes

[@marcuskuhnert2105]

Good day being a German hockey fan

[@SpaceForce635]

You have October 6 to look forward too as well. Will Stutzle be a King, Ranger or Senator?

[@doaftheloaf]

​@@SpaceForce635 are you under the impression stutzle will be there at 22? there's as much chance of that as him going first.

[@SpaceForce635]

@@doaftheloaf What are you talking about?

[@nicholaslouie7590]

Just remember canucks fan Calder means absolutely nothing it just looks good on your resume. I am really salty that Hughes didn’t win but good on Makar on winning it.

[@agamotto5041]

Makar scored more PPGs per game more 5 on 5 and played better D Clearly he was the better regular season player , but Quinn was superior in the playoffs . Be salty now , Quinn will be able to prove he is better later . Calder does mean nothing .time will tell who is better . I am betting on Makar , but wish my Red Wings had drafted Hughes . good luck with covid .

[@mithex8414]

Nicholas Louie it was so close. they’re both gonna be such superstars in the future they may be battling for norris year in year out. i figured for the regular season makar would beat out hughes tho

[@agamotto5041]

@@mithex8414 YES they are both great players .

[@agamotto5041]

@@mithex8414 They are both great players . They may never win a Norris , but they will be great players .

[@SparkyKev]

My boy Leon absolutely cleaned up this year! Just missing the big trophy...

[@metalmarty3948]

Absolutely Kevin, he deserves this and once again he's proven he doesn't need McDavid to be successful.

[@ryans413]

Avalanche fans are mad about it I see

[@metalmarty3948]

@Johnny Dong Who's your favorite team moron? Probably whoever winds the cup every year.

[@LETZGONHLdraft]

the hart should be renamed after Wayne Gretzky.

[@Gus-ek7db]

No, they need a new award to the best playmaker(most assists) each season and call it the Gretzky since he has more assists then anyone points

[@liamcharlebois5289]

Gus facts bro

[@Mineav]

Norris should be renamed to the Orr trophy, and also need an award for best defensive Dman, IMO. Call it the Rod Langway trophy.

[@agamotto5041]

@@Mineav Yes

[@francisbibeau2543]

The rocket Richard the ovie aWards too

[@t3ht0rch33]

I’ve got so many videos in my watch later, but any time you post I’m right in here. Thanks as always!

[@GoJays]

Ceci's greatness will never be recognized

[@Noahscape31]

Yes the Pylon is the greatest

[@GoJays]

It's awesome to watch a pylon that can move on it's own

[@Gus-ek7db]

Don’t forget about bogo

[@Gus-ek7db]

And who should of won the hart Loui eriksson

[@jameskilgour387]

Loui should have won the Norris, Calder and Vezina too

[@Mineav]

Need a Rod Langway award for best defensive Dman. What's the hold up, NHL?

[@dmonsef]

And Orr for best offensive d-man. It's the traditionalist who run the NHL that don't make these changes. Gretzky should have an award named after him as well. I think some of the awards names have to be changed at some point, because newer generations won't have any clue who Norris, Lindsey, Vezina, etc, are.

[@danieldosso2455]

Completely agree!

[@creeperz4evr]

Usually don't comment but thanks shannon, great video as always. A Europe video after the cup would probably do really well. Keep up the great work!

[@kyleshreve9913]

Bummer that Carlson didn't win the Norris. He had a heck of a season.

[@josha5266]

As a Canucks fan are we really being salty about having 3 straight years of calder trophy finalists including 1 winner. Calder this year was a real coin toss, there are legit arguments for both sides and the voting showed how close it was. Hughes will be great for us in Van and Makar will be great in Colorado. Gg.

[@jameskilgour387]

Yes we are. Should we be? Probably not, but it was well within the realm of possibility to get Boeser, Petey and Hughes a Calder which would have been insane

[@josha5266]

@@jameskilgour387 Lol fair enough that would have been sick. But having so many young studs is going to lead to the only trophy we want in Vancouver

[@Mineav]

Blessing in disguise that he doesn't win it. It doesn't really mean all that much, and he probably would've used it as leverage for an even bigger pay day when he signed a new contract.

[@agamotto5041]

@@Mineav A logical view , I think Makar was better , but my opinion is worth nothing .

[@practicalguy973]

Hughes very obviously ran most plays when he was on the ice. I think he does more than Makar in that respect. Makar had just a little more offensive talent when he was healthy so I can see why he won. The vote must have been really close.

[@goalieg3391]

The merch is a beauty.

[@clintsaunders3229]

You are my hockey news guy I enjoy you’re videos a lot keep it up bud 🤘🏻

[@seanproctor7830]

As a Canucks fan, Makar deserves the Calder. Pretty crazy to see two rookie defensemen who are so good this year but Makar just had the better season of the two. It’ll be interesting to see which one has the better career 20 years from now.

[@mr.porkchop6377]

My guess would be hughes will get more total points since makar appears to be injury prone. Hes already been out a few times in his young career.

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

@@mr.porkchop6377 how does 1 injury equal injury prone?

[@nicholaslouie7590]

Hughes deserves it just as much I felt like the NHL didn’t want to give back to back Calder trophies to the canucks.

[@mr.porkchop6377]

@@RIPJimmyA7X I'm pretty sure hes been out more than once

[@mr.porkchop6377]

@@RIPJimmyA7X www.dailyfaceoff.com/players/news/cale-makar/3198/

[@DethOfDrgnz]

Congrads to our boy Leon Draisaitl. The media/fans and the rest of the NHL may hate the OIlers but here in Edmonton we love our Oilers and we are glad to finally have star players and a chance to be a consistent playoff team. Proud of Draidaitl and our team, Go Oilers!

[@ryans413]

Avalanche fans are mad I see

[@BvG_Venom]

The NHL Awards hosted by Las Vegas and presented by the Oilers Ring of Honor

[@duaneday5474]

I'm relieved Draisaitl won the Hart. He's getting the recognition he deserves.

[@bdonaghu]

Also shout out to the All-Rookie Team! Forwards: Kubalik, Suzuki, and Olofsson Defensemen: Hughes and Makar Goaltender: Merzlikins

[@argo1879]

Almost forgot about olofsson. He was amazing for the first month or two and then just disappeared.

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

Oh man, now I'm just picturing Makar and Hughes as an actual d pairing lol that would be unstoppable

[@bdonaghu]

@@argo1879 If by "disappear" you mean he missed about a month with a sprained ankle, then yes.

[@doaftheloaf]

@@bdonaghu what excuse do his teammates have then?

[@user-sw9rj6hj4z]

Ditto on ALL award shows. Should be like going to the supermarket. Go in, get what you went for, and get out as quickly as possible.

[@ryans413]

That’s how I shop in and out I hate dealing with dum people in the stores

[@Orinocomplex]

If anyone thinks Drai doesn’t deserve the Hart or Lindsay, sorry but you are totally out to lunch what actually happened this past season. He is a beast, that plays any situation. He earned both awards.

[@Nagoto_Uzumaki]

Nah, I think you are. This isn’t “Whoever get’s the most points” trophy. It’s Most Valuable Player. How can you be a MVP but not make the playoffs? That literally makes no sense. Also, Mackinnon outscored his second leading scorer on his team by 43 points and was top 4 in the western conference. Mackinnon easily deserved to win the Hart. Also Taylor hall won the Hart because he also outscored his teamate by 43 points, so why didn’t Mackinnon win?

[@isidro9911]

@@Nagoto_Uzumaki didn't make the playoffs because of covid 19.

[@ryans413]

Nagoto Uzumaki There’s no rule saying the Hart has to go to a playoff team.

[@ryans413]

isidro9911 Actually before covid Edmonton was in a playoff spot second in the pacific after Vegas. Dallas won Edmonton spot just slightly over the percentage so really Edmonton got shafted in this years playoffs but they didn’t show up against the Hawks so I can’t be too salty but anyways Leon still deserves his trophies don’t care what anyone says and avalanche fans keep pointing out Nathan scored 40 more points then the rest of his team and Leon and McDavid usually so that too so your argument dosnt mean anything really. Yes it’s impressive Nathan can do that but it dosnt compare to what Leon accomplished this year and the players think the same

[@Nagoto_Uzumaki]

isidro9911 Yeah I know, but still. They lost the play-in, so they didn’t make playoffs. Even with covid, they had no excuse to lose to Chicago as a 5th seed. If they were truly a good team, they should’ve won.

[@EPCOTFan82]

Drai LETS GOOOOO

[@Swag-Juice]

Makar may have got this one. But i feel Hughes has a higher ceiling and will be collecting some Norris trophies in a few years.

[@brandongiron1148]

Swag Juice Hughes is a little pip squeak lol

[@24nathan48]

Swag Juice After watching both in the playoffs Hughs is a little one sided as Makar is the more rounded plays both PK and PP and puts up more points 5on5 and I believe that’s why he won the Calder, he had one less point then Hugh’s but played 10 less games Makar scored more goals more 5on5 points and a better plus minus don’t get me wrong Hugh’s is a absolute pleasure watch and would love to have either one on my team, I agree Hugh’s could win the Norris in the future but I rank them equally offensively but give the edge to Makar as the better Dman on both sides of the puck making him a Norris candidate for many yrs to come, it really early in their careers and lots could change I have to admit I think Hugh’s is more important to the Canucks attack then Makar is to the Avalanche attack, just my 2 cents on the matter.

[@Swag-Juice]

@@brandongiron1148 Maybe so, but he's still a kid and will fill out soon enough. Smaller, faster puck moving Defensemen like him Klingberg are the future, whether you like it or not.

[@faunbudweis]

@@Swag-Juice Klingberg is 6'1'', not that small

[@t.k.8366]

All Hail King Leon!

[@poonking3628]

Sooooooo glad they gave Josi the Norris, I love Carlson but the best ALL AROUND defender was Roman Josi

[@poonking3628]

Sean Avery Yeah it sucks that it takes his best offensive season for that to happen. Dude has been a stud for the last 5-6 years.

[@ethans934]

Shannon looks dapper af

[@37willdog]

Rask finished 2nd in Vezina voting. He actually came pretty close to winning it

[@KevinJL]

TEG gotta be jealous of the swag. Vegas appears to be lit tonight after the Raiders big win.

[@stephenoffredi6273]

I'm hoping to go to vegas for double or nothibg 2021. Let's hope the border is open by then. Also hoping wont need to isolate for two weeks when coming back.

[@bdeitur]

Kinda surprised Josi beat out Carlson for the Norris

[@rtql8d]

Just wanted to point out that Rask actually placed 2nd in Vezina voting! But I'm personally surprised that Makar had an overwhelming lead in 1st votes, I thought it would've been closer.

[@avansies]

After watching Shea Weber getting robbed twice in back to back years i was totally expecting Josi to lose. So glad he won.

[@ryans413]

Well deserved for Leon and not just saying that cause I’m an oilers fan

[@drewzy1677]

Connor and I went to the same high school hype to see him win the Vezina

[@PiMpiNx187]

HUGGY BEAR HUGHES WAS ROBBED!

[@thenextgreat8652]

He had a great season but Makar is simply a one in a lifetime d-man and absolutely deserved to win. I will say I gained a great deal of appreciation and respect for Hughes during the playoffs as I didn’t watch many Nucks games during the season.

[@deadboyspoem2]

hughes had like -12 rating

[@aaronb6878]

@Sean Avery "Basically no good defensive minded D partners" Hughes literally played the entire season with Tanev, a defensively solid Dman

[@JSauer21]

Nah Makar is that good, but Hughes is right there behind him. They're both top 10 defenseman in the league, and will both probably be top 5

[@thenextgreat8652]

Sean Avery It makes perfect sense and has little to do with what team they’re on. The x-factor is Makar is simply the better player and the non biased voters who watched both know that. Don’t get me wrong, Hughes is great and the Nucks are lucky to have him but he’s not as good as Makar.

[@astewart9410]

That shirt... it’s Shannon-ception.

[@SpaceForce635]

Absolutely right about the Ted Lindsay.

[@francisbibeau2543]

I am agree with all

[@costaricagarner]

Thank you for liking Vegas for something. Go Knights Go lol

[@jimjohnson9808]

Makar and Hughes I expect was very close.in the vote.

[@fujikokun]

It wasn’t actually. It was Makar by a mile

[@LETZGONHLdraft]

Hart Memorial Trophy Description: First awarded in 1923-24, the Hart Memorial Trophy is presented annually “to the player adjudged to be the most valuable to his team.” Voting: Members of the Professional Hockey Writers Association submit ballots for the Hart Memorial Trophy at the conclusion of the regular season, with the top three vote-getters designated as finalists. History: The Hart Memorial Trophy was presented by the NHL in 1960 after the original Hart Trophy was retired to the Hockey Hall of Fame. The original Hart Trophy was donated to the League in 1924 by Dr. David A. Hart, father of Cecil Hart, former manager-coach of the Montreal Canadiens. 2019-20 Winner: Edmonton Oilers center Leon Draisaitl won the 2019‑20 Hart Memorial Trophy. The top choice on 91 of the 170 ballots cast, he accumulated 1,309 voting points to edge second-place Nathan MacKinnon (1,162 points) and third-place Artemi Panarin (889 points). Draisaitl (43‑67-110 in 71 GP) topped the NHL with 110 points, 13 more than the next-closest player (Connor McDavid: 97). He registered at least one point in 56 of his 71 appearances, the highest such percentage in the League (78.9%) ahead of Panarin (78.3%) and Patrick Kane (77.1%). Draisaitl also recorded a League-best 33 multi-point performances, four more than MacKinnon and David Pastrnak (29), and led NHL forwards in both total (1,605:24) and average time on ice (22:37). Draisaitl, who reached the 100-point milestone for the second consecutive season (50‑55-105 in 2018‑19), paced all 2019‑20 players in assists (67), power-play points (44) and game-winning goals (t‑10) while also ranking among the top five in power-play goals (2nd; 16), power-play assists (2nd; 28), shooting percentage (3rd; 19.7%) and goals (4th; 43). The 24-year-old Cologne native became the first German-born player to win the Hart Trophy and the fourth player in Oilers history, following Wayne Gretzky (8x, most recently 1986‑87), Mark Messier (1989‑90) and McDavid (2016‑17). records.nhl.com/awards/trophies/hart-memorial-trophy

[@ryans413]

Thank you for breaking it down cause there’s a lot of mad avalanche fans I get it but breaking it down you can see Leon deserves it

[@dylanward8497]

Does anyone happen to know a KZbin channel just like this one but with baseball?

[@AndrewBullard9170]

If the knights play Calgary or Edmonton (example) for a home opener you should definitely try and go

[@t3ht0rch33]

Oh I’m gunsta gamble and drink if I’m in Vegas.

[@billytessio6326]

I'm sure Hughes would've won if he was lining up with MacKinnon, Rantanen, and Landeskog every night lmao

[@thenextgreat8652]

Had nothing to do with it and not to forget that both Landeskog and Rantanen missed significant time during the season. Last game of the season vs the Rangers when Landy, Rantanen and Mackinnon were all out, he put up 3 points and won the game for them in OT. If you think Hughes should’ve won it, go find some AV’s games to watch on replay and I think you’ll want to edit your comment after all the times your jaw drops watching Cale be Cale.

[@hardiltakhar380]

Nathan MacKitton29 A LITTLE SHOOTY SHOOT! Lol still makes me smile when I think about that play

[@ryanbrown3309]

Russ Cohen had an interesting take on the Calder this morning on Hot Stove. He mentioned something about Quinn Hughes was a bigger help to Vancouver than Cale was to Colorado. Therefore he should of won in his opinion. Thoughts??? Also, Carlson should of won the Norris in my opinion. Will he ever win one??

[@robertsutton8264]

Jets fan here. Good on Helly to get the Vezina but I honestly think he deserved the Hart as well. If he had not stood on his head, the Jets would probably have not made it to the bubble!

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

I would have given him all of Pastrnak's and McDavid's voting points and nominated Draisaitl. He deserved to at least be nominated.

[@skatingfan7885]

robert sutton Agreed 💯. So proud of Helly on winning the Vezina!

[@schnitzler5844]

Draisaitl and Josi together 3 trophies sick 🇩🇪❤🇨🇭

[@SpaceForce635]

Draisaitl got the Art Ross too!

[@schnitzler5844]

@@SpaceForce635 true

[@TheFreedomPrime]

Shannon, how does Josi winning the Norris affect Pieterangelo's contract? Does he lose leverage because Josi, on paper now, is clearly the better defenseman? How can his agent argue he's as good as Josi and thus deserving of that type of contract? when Pieterangelo has no Norris Trophy to his name? Josi's career achievements, on a n individual level, far outweigh Pieterangelo's as well. Their point totals are similar but Pieterangelo plays with Tarasenko and a far superior supportive cast than Josi in Nashville.

[@peterpike]

The only one I (very slightly) disagree with is, as Steve Dangle said of Draisaitl, "He isn't even the best player for the Oilers."

[@kevinkim115]

Whoever called him John Norris in Caps dressing room jinxed it.

[@TheGreatNathan]

Lol I think Ovi jinxed it

[@rlosangeleskings]

I still can't understand why they try to stretch 1 minute of comedy/music into a 4 hour show...

[@markandersen793]

Makar the only Canadian to win a major award, Mackinnon the only other Canadian nominated, but if there was a world tournament, Canada would probably still win, proving the whole is greater than the sum of parts.

[@hunterzone2]

Congrats to Josi for winning the norris, honestly any of them would of been a good choice if they won it. But i was hoping carlson would won it, this seem like it would of been his best chance to win it. Its gonna be harder for him in the future especially with these younger Dman on the rise like Heskainen, Quinn, Makar, etc

[@slitherking621]

Yea such bullshit he had every single offense stat and is good on defense to

[@LETZGONHLdraft]

I don't necessarily think that this true but it is an interesting What If theory, here it is: What if Leon Draisaitl is the better player then Connor Mcdavid with both players in their primes? Let me explain: in 2016-2017 Draisaitl has his breakout season (not his prime yet) scoring 77 points, while Mcdavid has his first 100 point season. in 2017-2018 Draisaitl has a down year scoring only 70 points in 78 games, but he also had a 56.09 faceoff percentage, while Mcdavid had 108 in 82 games, but only a 46.62 faceoff percentage, this season showed that Draisaitl was used a bit more often in the game and in many different sanarioes. in 2018-2019 Draisaitl scored 105 points in 82 games, scoring a league second best 50 goals, while having a 21.65 shooting percentage and a 50.52 faceoff percentage, while Mcdavid scored 116 points in 78 games, scoring 41 goals but 75 assists and only having a 46.62 faceoff percentage. This past season Draisaitl out scored and out point scored Mcdavid. The question I am posing here is what if Draisaitl is making Mcdavid better not the other way around, but since Mcdavid is the Canadian kid playing on a team in Canada the NHL, Sportsnet and Tsn know that it is more marketable to market Mcdavid as the best player in the world. What if the prime of Leon Draisaitl's career will out score the prime of Mcdavid's career. We already know that Draisaitl is the better goal scorer, its just that since Connor Mcdavid is more flashy he looks like he is better. Again I don't really believe that this is true, but what if it is.

[@Nikkerman]

Hellebuck was the only nhl award winner I agreed with all award season danm

[@yuvyork6915]

As long McDavid and Draisaitl are in the nhl MacKinnon will never win the hart, lindsey, and art ross no disrespect to him Nathan

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

These writers have 0 respect for MacKinnon.

[@yuvyork6915]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 yeah I feel that way for Nathan man and I'm an Oilers fan but the Oilers just got 2 guys who put up ridiculous numbers not that MacKinnon can't it's just because the Oilers have terrible wing depth and mediocre Defense heh at least one Avalanche won an award

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

@@yuvyork6915 It's like no matter what Nate does, they won't aknowledge that he deserved the Hart in either 2018 over Hall or 2020 over MacKinnon. In 2018, it's because "he plays with Landeskog and Rantanen," but in 2020, it's, "Draisaitl has 17 more points, despite the fact that MacKinnon has 43 more points than the 2nd player on his team (Makar), the biggest deficit in the league, as well as a billion teammates injured." What more does he need to do? There is some serious anti-Colorado bias in most of sports media outside Colorado. Draisaitl and MacKinnon both deserved to win the Hart and Lindsay, regardless of who gets which one.

[@Nagoto_Uzumaki]

S Choudhry Funniest thing is, Hall won Hart trophy because he was 43 points higher than the second highest scorer on his team. Yet when Mackinnon does it, he doesn’t win it. It’s ridiculous. Both Panarin and Draisailt didn’t even make playoff

[@pdubcentral]

Nagoto Uzumaki yeah I don’t get how you can win mvp when you’re not the most valuable player on your team. Like, okay Malkin won it one year, having Crosby on his team. But that made sense. Because he just about literally had the same amount of points as draisaitl (with 109) BUT, Crosby played 22 games that season. That. Is Carrying the team. Connor was out for total of 7 games. Drat got a whopping 35 points when McDavid wasn’t out there with him. Mack, 40 more than the next player on his team, which as you said WAS THE WHOLE REASON TAYLOR HALL WON IT OVER HIM. So how does it not get it now?! Come on

[@patch8376]

I thought Hughes had done enough to win the Calder by a hair in the end, would have given Torts a slight nod over Cassidy, and awarded MacKinnon the Hart, again just by a hair, but overall I'm satisfied with who won what and I think the Norris win is more praise for Josi than it is a put down of Carlson. Carlson got off to an Orr-ish, Coffey-ish, 2018-19 Rielly-ish offensive start to the season, but I think Josi's been arguably the best all-around defenceman in the NHL for the past few years.

[@Peter-tm4sx]

Maybe this will motivate Carlson to be a much better defending defenseman. Because right now he is sub par at best at defending

[@doaftheloaf]

they did it right...although i'd be saying that if hughes won calder too.

[@Nickleblanc41]

the Calder was presented by a guy who was never illegible for the Calder and the Vezina was presented by a goalie with a career .887 save percentage?

[@thenextgreat8652]

All hail Cale!

[@johndidier7849]

The Mac attack is back Jack⚠️⚠️

[@herbywidmer2891]

Drinking in Vegas is only expensive when you drink AND gamble....

[@jimjohnson9808]

The league has never named a trophy after Gordie Howe which I feel is a joke.

[@SpaceForce635]

The Howe trophy should be the new name for the Hart trophy.

[@LETZGONHLdraft]

@@SpaceForce635 yes they should name it the Mr. Hockey Trophy

[@ddc2784]

Hi cats

[@tealpenguin7546]

I really dont get why Josi won the Norris, but I'm probably wrong.

[@itspapaghost6989]

mmm i still think mack should have won the heart by a mile he produced so well and everyone forgets that the whole season he was producing so well while his costars were dealing with a lot of injury the second highest point total on the team was makar with 50. our team dealt with so many important injuries and mack still got us wins. Leon’s really good honestly but this trophy isn’t for who scores the most points it’s for the mvp that doesn’t just reflect on the point totals

[@adamwest4926]

Carly was SCREWED again!

[@rlosangeleskings]

The only way I gamble is how good the buffet is... If I had to cash a check...I might put five in a slot to see what happens... If I'm ahead...I quit playing...even if it's a penny over...

[@boland73]

Hart & Lindsay are basically the exact same award.... just voted on by different people When that shouldn’t be the case.

[@kallu_saurus]

Draisatl will always be underrated because he plays with mcdavid, just saying.

[@camnovak4405]

Just like Malkin will always be underrated because he plays with Sid.

[@BadAtFanduel]

Cam Novak everyone was or should of been thinking about this when reading the comment

[@ryans413]

Really cause McDavid got no awards and Leon cleaned up with 3 I’m sure he’s not being underrated

[@TheCHEF1911]

Nothing says"Best Defenseman trophy" by naming it after an executive crony who almost ruined the NHL and probably never laced up a pair of skates. The Norris trophy is the only award that deserves to be renamed.

[@vilmathealien]

Rask was second in voting.

[@shrihithtalapaneni9227]

I am a little surprised Hughes didn't win, although I think Makar was the correct choice. I thought MacKinnon should have won, but I wasn't surprised that Leon Draisitil win. I had Carlson, but it was a coin flip for me. Draistil should have won the Ted Lindsay as he did cuz I believe there is a difference between best and most valuable.

[@e-rod1596]

All of the nominees are deserving players. The only hardware that counts is the Lord's Stanley cup in my eyes.

[@thenextgreat8652]

The awards mean a ton to the players. As a fan, absolutely the Cup is the one that matters and I’m sure the players would give up awards for a cup as well. But to be a Hart or Calder winner as a player is putting yourself in an elite group. Bummed Mack didn’t get the Hart but more bummed they didn’t get to the finals.

[@creepyrobsta5509]

I now think the NHL just gave Mackinnon the lady byng, because for the 2nd time they shut out Mack's Hart trophy...first Hall, and now Draisaitl.

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

@Dead Lee Right, points being the end all be all. Forgive me for asking, but isn't it supposed to represent the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER? It sure seems like it's an Art Ross Part 2.

[@pdubcentral]

S Choudhry 75/110 points came with McDavid on the ice. 35 points without. Mackinnon had FORTY more than the next guy on his team! That’s insane. There is already an award for most points. If you’re gonna give the Hart for that reason, then what is the point of the trophy.

[@isidro9911]

@@pdubcentral because they both play in the powerplay.

[@ryans413]

S Choudhry Leon is the most valuable player to Edmonton this year like how you not see it c

[@danh5810]

Draisaitl got Hart? I mean, he was having a great season, but it should have gone to MacKinnon in my opinion

[@nickvenuto9803]

John Carlson was on pace for 90 points as a D man and is very good defensively... Robbed by “Josi” who has never won a cup

[@aarongrace]

I feel like whenever they can give an award to McDavid’s teammate, they are going to do that Edit: lol I really triggered the Edmonton fans so let me clarify. I’m not saying Leon didn’t deserve it, I’m saying that when people have a chance to give an award to the teammate of the best player, they’re gonna do that.

[@Goz_Klahaz]

how about a Stanley Cup to all his teammates than

[@gkarenko9593]

Vezina for Kassian.

[@doaftheloaf]

@@gkarenko9593 well, no one else on that team is going to stop pucks.

[@metalmarty3948]

That's the most asinine comment I've ever heard and makes no sense whatsoever.

[@ryans413]

Um they didn’t just give s**t to Leon cause he plays with McDavid he deserves it he earned it. That be like giving Kassian or Neal or Nurse a trophy just cause they play with McDavid like what your comment make no sense buddy

[@nilocblue]

I get it, I do boys, I really do, some of you feel Draisaitl didn't deserve it, because I'm a huge Panarin fan AND MacKinnon fan, but all you Draisaitl haters saying he didn't deserve it, you're either not an objective hockey fan, or you just plain didn't watch Draisaitl dominate all year and put up a crazy season we haven't seen for a while AND did it mostly on his own line, and even drove the bus when McDavid went down injured and the guy scored at an even higher pace.

[@thenextgreat8652]

I’m bummed as a Mack fan but Draisaitl was deserving and to your point was putting up an absolute monster of a season. I think the fact he excelled when Connor was out sealed the deal.

[@creepyrobsta5509]

Well Mackinnon played a huge chunk of the season with Landy, Rants, etc, etc, etc gone...not just 1 guy.

[@TheGreatNathan]

McDavid was only out for six games, so lets not exaggerate that. Look how much longer Mackinnon had to wait for Landeskog and Rantanen to return. He outscored the next highest teammate by 40ish points. Mackinnon was objectively the more valuable player to his team, while Draisaitl was a bit more dominant. If I were to vote Hart goes to Mackinnon, Lindsay to Draisaitl.

[@Nagoto_Uzumaki]

You’re the one not thinking objectively. First off, Oilers DID NOT make the playoffs! How can you be a MVP but not make the playoffs? Second off, Mackinnon is 40+ points higher than the second highest scorer on the avs. Is that why Taylor Hall won the Hart trophy as well?

[@pdubcentral]

nilocblue mostly on his own line. I wouldn’t say 35/110 points is most. Connor was on the ice for 75 of Leon’s Points. Yes he had a great year but the thing for me is, Mackinnon and Panarin are both the best player and most valuable to their team. Draisaitl plays WITH not the best player on the team, the hands down best player in the world. That seems like an unfair advantage over the other two who actually have to be the best on the team. Like if McDavid doesn’t miss games which like it was seven, rantanen was out like 28? Landeskog, 16. And they were out at the same time and he just carried the team. And rangers, had no business making the play in round but Panarin was a beast. No one was as valuable to their team as him. He was doing that shit with Strome and we saw him in Edmonton. I don’t know how he got points with him. He’s just that good. Plus Panarin is actually effective 5 on 5 (yeah actually had more points than draisiatl there) Drat is really reliant on the power play where once again, McDavid is right there. It just drives me nuts for people saying, he did it on his own this year. He really didn’t. Didn’t even thank McDavid in both his acceptance speeches or talk abut the other nominees which was kinda brutal cause everyone else did, if he did, let me know I don’t remember him doing so. But oh well. I mean he can enjoy it for now cause he is obviously gonna spend the rest of his career playing second fiddle so, my as well enjoy it while it lasts.

[@dmonsef]

Whatever, Josi can have his Norris and many more if he wants. Carlson won a better trophy, The Stanley Cup! I personally think all these trophies have lost their prestige. They really need to retire the names of a lot of the trophies to more modern NHL players that no longer play the game, but were still elite. Like the Vezina, I would change the name to the Hasek. If you don't have Langway, then you have to call it the Lidstrom and so forth.

[@williamholden7356]

Jodi deserved it, he’s the most dynamic offensive dman since EK65 in his prime in 2017, Carlson gets stat padded and is the passer 95% of the time to Ovi on the PP, it’s a 5 foot pass, he can only shoot and pass, sucks at defense and is slow and not physical

[@harrisonmackinnon5717]

I agree with Cale getting the Calder even tho I think both Cale and Quinn are both amazing players, but holy shit Nathen got absolutely snubbed once again. but I guess the Heart is the only kind of trophy Leo will be seeing In Edmonton so might as well let him have one

[@metalmarty3948]

Ya like colorado is going to win a cup anytime soon. Give me a break, Draisaitl was a beast and nobody touched him all year clown.

[@harrisonmackinnon5717]

@@metalmarty3948 if you saw how hard Nathan played all year carrying his injured team to the playoffs then you would understand why he deserved it more

[@metalmarty3948]

@@harrisonmackinnon5717 If it wasn't for Draisaitl, Oilers wouldn't have had the season they had, with or without McDavid either. Not even arguing with you as you have your say, and I have mine. You're smart ass remark about them only having that trophy was very annoying as Colorado isn't any closer to winning a cup than the oilers are lol. Have a great day.

[@harrisonmackinnon5717]

Metal Marty what are you even talking about, the avs are gonna win a cup within the next 5 years, unlike the oilers where there just wasting mcdavids best years

[@metalmarty3948]

@@harrisonmackinnon5717 Hahahahahaha we'll see about that.

[@lier0]

hehe that nhl.com/fi leak Draisaitl winning Hart 8 hours before awards show was true

[@VIC-20_Synthwave]

What a joke!

[@FAFO101]

Eric Karlsson win Norris 2 times.By simply having more points and being horrible at defence. Carlson already had multiple seasons leading the league and also lead the team to SC. What Josi did ? Nothing.

[@argo1879]

Mackinnon got snubbed. I know Draisaitl had an amazing year and he probably won’t get too many chances at a hart with McDavid on his team but mackinnon was the better player and more valuable player this year

[@yukoncorneliusthelegendhim9751]

agreed

[@jamierobertson4139]

Not surprised Draisaitl won, but to me it should’ve been MacKinnon... kinda gets dummied out of this award twice now in 3 years... when Hall won it was because MacKinnon had better line mates and Hall had a 41 point gap on the next closest player, and now this year Draisaitl had McDavid to play with, especially on the power play, and MacKinnon had a 43 point gap on his next closest teammate and still nothing. Either way you look at it it seems like he should’ve had at least one of those... like no matter what this guy does he doesn’t get any recognition until playoff time when people are finally actually watching him and the Avs play... it’s frustrating for sure, I can only imagine what it’s like for him

[@jamierobertson4139]

SupremePrestige Yeah for him all this is is motivation, can’t wait to see him on God Mode next year with hopefully a healthy roster... gonna be tough to stop

[@LETZGONHLdraft]

Mackinnon gets a crap ton of recognition what are you even talking about. Mackinnon won the Lady Byng. Also enough of Draisaitl was only good because he played with Mcdavid.

[@pdubcentral]

HOCKEY HELL YA he’s not ONLY good with McDavid. But 75/110 points came with him on the ice...so...yeah. Mac did pretty much everything you can do to win the Hart including that ridiculous gap in points compared to his teammates where as drat and McDavid had nearly identical points per game, Connor just missed a few otherwise, probably would have just won the art Ross himself. Even so I wouldn’t have given it to McDavid because, well he had draisiatl scoring on his team. Mac has good players, but they were all injured...and he carried the team. Like 43 points is a pretty big difference. That’s almost twice as many points...I don’t know what else you can really do to prove that you are the clear mvp. Poor Nate.

[@isidro9911]

@@pdubcentral stop it already you're beginning to sound like a laughs fan.

[@bennarwold4355]

The Hart and the Ted Lindsey are totally different awards. Most valuable and best player are two different things. Panarin was the most valuable to his team. Draisaitl was the best player.

[@beardupbeerdown7355]

MacKinnon had a strong case for both

[@gimmick7389]

panarin's team didn't even make the playoffs (play-ins included), how can he be the most valueable to his team?

[@SpaceForce635]

MacKinnon was the most valuable to his team.

[@shaggyfrankdizzl]

If John Carlson was born in Canada this would have been his 3rd straight Norris as he has led all defensemen in scoring for 3 straight seasons. Please explain why Erik Karrlson has two of these? It was because he scored a ton of points. Biased voting. Nothing else. Just brutal.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Norris is more than just scoring? Which part of Canada is Josi from?

[@shaggyfrankdizzl]

@@TheHockeyGuy not a slight at Josi, I know hes swiss. Just saying. There is an anti american voting bias, especially when it comes to the Norris.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

So they're pro Swiss? I really don't see an anti US bias. www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/awards/awarddetail.php?award_id=10 I guess we could argue it is pro Swede?

[@shaggyfrankdizzl]

@@TheHockeyGuy ugh, not what I'm saying. It's all good, love the channel btw

[@karlmanchur9906]

Hellebuyck got robbed of a Hart trophy nomination.

[@harshangill8130]

Quinn hughes was on a team not as good as Colorado. Should have won.

[@aaronb6878]

His defensive metrics were artificially propped up due to Markstrom's insane sv%. Makar had the better season