2020 Porsche Taycan 4S Review & Test Drive - Better Than a 911

[@edmundscars]

Do you think it’s better than a 911?

[@devinbender8428]

Edmunds nothing is better than a 911. There is a very good reason why it hasn’t changed much in over 60 years.

[@marquerinkaccessories8111]

Certainly! It's an EV. The instant toque at any speed is a must have feature for my driving style. Charging at home and locally no emissions is perfect!

[@joshmiller1640]

I would go with the Taycan over the 911 for sure. No emissions, beautiful car, great performance is a winner in my book. Consider it bought once I get a boatload of money.

[@JeepCherokeeful]

Devin Bender so true!

[@trevorphillips3922]

I think the question is stupid because one is a sports car and the other is a luxury sedan.

[@middler5212]

Current dream car.

[@Joseph-du8ws]

Tops my list as well where Tesla never was anyway.

[@maxmaxie1328]

@@Joseph-du8ws keep it ready to get smoked by tesla in drag race.

[@AndreDargan]

@@maxmaxie1328Lot's of cars smokes Porsche in a drag race. Lot's of quartz watches are more accurate than a Rolex or Omega. Still, no people would choose a Tesla over a Porsche or a Timex over an Omega assuming you can easily afford it (granted - a few die-hard fans would). If you can't afford it, you will find reasons to be happy with what you can afford and one such reason is: My Tesla is faster. Once your ship comes in and you can afford whatever you like, you will upgrade. It's in the human DNA. We all want more. Porsche is harvesting on this behavior and therefore Porsche will always be a "better" car than a mass produced, cheap car for the common people. And btw Porsche makes some fantastic cars:)

[@maxmaxie1328]

@@AndreDargan Its like Iphone being Expensive for no reason. Good luck fan boi.

[@AndreDargan]

@@maxmaxie1328 You are a bit slow, are you? Can't comment like a normal person? It's not about being a "fan boi" or not. It's about understanding behavioural psychology and why some brands sell well at premium prices. Of course Porsche is a great car. If it's better than Tesla or not in some metrics it's not the point. It's what makes Porsche the most desired car (for most people) that's interesting. I don't have an iPhone nor a Porsche but maybe iPhone is better than my Samsung Note10. I don't really know. But I'm sure Taycan is a better car than my Audi A7.

[@rickintexas1584]

What a beautiful car. I might have to trade in my Panamera for a Taycan.

[@doctorj7112]

I think the Taycan will hurt sales of the Panamera especially when they improve the range of the car. At the price point it’s hard to make a case for the Panamera

[@peterhammer6915]

Rick in Texas. Change immediately. The Taycan feels like a Cayman in compared to Panamera. Its also has a better drive and is more silent. You would not think they are almost same size, the Taycan really feels like half of the size of the Panamera.

[@peterhammer6915]

@@doctorj7112 Panamera Hybrids are still sold in our country but that's it. The Taycan is by FAR the most sold Porsche at the moment. The price/quality is incredible.

[@rickintexas1584]

@@peterhammer6915 thanks Peter. I haven't sat in a Taycan yet. But my passengers love sitting in my Panamera. And I love driving it. It may not be as nimble as a Taycan or Cayman, but it is amazingly nimble for such a large car. I bought the Panamera so I could take my wife and friends out to dinner in style. It is an amazing car.

[@peterhammer6915]

@@rickintexas1584 for passengers the Panamera has more space in the back. So it is still a good choice for you.

[@andrewsmactips]

Plus-it looks fantastic!

[@aconfusedazn]

I actually like the fake sound

[@Joseph-du8ws]

It isn't bad.

[@NarasimhaDiyasena]

Better than what Mercedes has for the EQC. Fake sound is actually mandated by the EU as a safety reg. So expect a sound to be made irregardless, it’s up to manufactures to be creative. Porsche did it nicely, but I wouldn’t expect anything too unique from others since we’re only in the initial phase of full electric production models

[@januszj.8547]

Me too but why does it have to be a engine sound? What's about cow mooooving sound,same thing but more exotic.

[@imontanez]

The electric sound of the Porsche is just the amplified sound of the electric motors in the Taycan. Thus, it is not really fake, just made louder. It’s mostly so pedestrians can hear the car is moving.

[@TheTmat007]

@aconfusedazn The sound is not fake. It's the actual sound of the car. Porsche just chose to amplify or made it louder.

[@petenice75]

Overall I really think this review of the Taycan was very well done. What I can't understand is that every review I have seen of the Taycan, they only mention the starting price of each variant of this car. They never say the price AS TESTED. Why is that? We all know there is a huge difference between starting price and price as tested. This 4S is obviously the top of the line 4S model (long range, performance plus, extra screen in the passenger seat, larger rims, etc). Please say the price as tested as well as the starting price!

[@badroo]

Good work, Weaver!

[@jealva]

Give any car enthusiast the choice of an air cooled 993 or a Taycan. I’ll bet 9 of 10 choose the 993 and the main reason is that fan and engine sound in the back. I hope Porsche sells a ton of electric Taycans and Macans so they can keep making the glorious 911 GT3 RS and keep it normally aspirated. I love mine on the road and track. The sound of that Boxer engine at full throttle, especially on the track, is intoxicating.

[@porscheguy09]

It’s amazing how much a set of wheels can negatively affect the looks of a car.

[@ianthomas7863]

Not better than a 911, totally different cars. 911 is the pinnacle of everyday sports cars, U can't get better. Taycan is a new generation of car for the future, so in 30yrs time ask the question. Then we will see. The best review of this new car on the net. Thanks

[@joshmiller1640]

But what if the gas cars are not around in 30 years? Then we would have waited all this time to ask the question for nothing. LOL

[@ianthomas7863]

Josh..."What if" indeed, then you have answered your own question, as to which car is better!!

[@jamesshives5679]

@@joshmiller1640 We still have cars from the 1920s so I doubt all ice cars will somehow disappear by then. They will be kept alive by those who care about them, as all old things

[@davidowen2859]

Great down to earth sensible review. My daily drive is a Panamera, I'm also lucky enough to have a Boxster for a bit of fun. I have a Taycan on order but really can't decide whether to go ahead or get a 992 and keep my Panamera. My drive to work is only 10 miles and I have a charge point at home and work, so I can do most journeys electric which I do. I love the electric mode so quiet and restful. Really suits the Panamera but I also love the sound of the Petrol engine with the sports exhaust and no range anxiety. Occasionally I do 300 mile journeys and the charge network is lousy. I was surprised how much I like electric driving but I still enjoy the petrol engine. I guess I have the best of both worlds in the Panamera. So to Taycan or not to Taycan?

[@mromar2724]

Not sure if you made a decision yet or not but I just dropped in to tell you that I can relate to at-least half of your dilemma. I have a 991 and find myself at the cross roads of trading to a new 992 or Taycan. Love the visceral feel of a high revving NA engine (I got mine right before they went Turbo charged on 991.2) but a recent test drive in a Tesla performance car has me wondering how far up the price list do I want to go chasing similar performance in a Gas engine. In summary Tesla blew me away and I have never experienced such thrust in any vehicle. Having said, Im curious to hear your opinion on this range anxiety and do you feel other Ev owners share the same sentiment. Reason why I ask is that I can see myself getting stressed if lets say I had 100Km or so left and im equal amount of KM away from a charge station.

[@davidowen2859]

@@mromar2724 I think I'm nearly there on the decision but could still change. Like you I tried the P100D determined if I'm honest to dislike it but the performance blew me away. I get sick of hearing electric lovers knocking Porsche and vice versa but I just couldn't live with the quality or lack of with Tesla. My Panamera is gorgeous. Yes it has every conceivable extra and yes they cost a fortune but it never fails to put a smile on my face. As far as performance goes, I really can't play very much with the Panamera or Boxster too many bloody cameras so I don't need more. I just love the orchestra from 0 to 60. When I drove the P100D in a spirited fashion in winter with lights, AC and seats on I realised I would get about 160 miles. With one yes one charge point within 50 miles of me and one on my usual 300 mile return journey there was no way. It's a little better now with 2 points but still not possible. So for now the Taycan is out. Im keeping the Panamera and getting a 992. In a couple of years time I will look again at the infrastructure and maybe go electric but I can see me getting another Panamera. I'm also not convinced electric is the future. Our national grid will only support another 100k cars without serious investment and then there's the cobalt problem. If I were you I'd keep the 991 and get a 992 daily or Panamera. You will never ever go out to it and regret it.

[@davidowen2859]

@@mromar2724 didn't read the bit about NA I would definitely keep it as a weekend play thing, a little bit envious.

[@peterhammer6915]

@@davidowen2859 I almost only charge my Taycan at home when in Finland . We went for a road trip from Finland to Austria and we had zero issues with charging. Ionitys every 100 km and in between other fast chargers. I have never enjoyed this road trip so much, not in my previous F80 competition or the E92 M3 I had before that. The Taycan is fantastic in the mountains. Its ridiculous how fast you can drive there not even going close to the limit.

[@davidowen2859]

@@peterhammer6915 Yes of course the Taycan is fast and you probably have much better charging infrastructure than the UK, not hard. However my Panamera is not a toy. I drive long miles most days. The clincher for me was returning the Taycan demo and being tired after 2 hours of stop start traffic and being shaken around. I got back in my Panamera gentleman's club drove the 2 hours home and felt completely relaxed. I decided to keep the Panamera and buy a real toy 992 GTS. In the UK the only reason the Taycan out sells the Panamera is the tax advantage, bit sad really. The day I buy a car because its cheaper to own is the day I may as well give up, lay down and die.🤣

[@final_mile_music9713]

The 4 cylinder 718 is f@#$ing amazing. It really is.

[@laciko12]

You should definitively review more cars, I really enjoyed your comments....and the fact that you look like Paul Joseph Watson cousin :))). Good job

[@ronammar5021]

Can’t wait for the Audi etron gt version

[@florianj6490]

But this will come very late. Maybe 2023. They have a lot of problems these days.

[@AndreDargan]

@@florianj6490 No, the production model will be unveiled at LA Auto in Oct 2020. Production is scheduled to start right after that.

[@florianj6490]

@@AndreDargan OK, I hope so. But first the new factory at Böllinger Höfe in Heilbronn has to been built.

[@benfidar]

That trick with the headrest came out on the 1984 Toyota Cressida. God I loved that car. How about the Taycan shooting brake. Come on Porsche!!!

[@wermagst]

Taycan Cross Turismo, coming 2020. Prototypes have already been spotted on the Nordschleife.

[@gpierre90]

A beautiful car love it. Mr Mat Watson from carwow sends his regards. Thanks to him i have subscribed.

[@Joseph-du8ws]

Wow, what a car that is. This would be on top of the wish list. Great video AW and edmunds.

[@backbiz9151]

April 10 is my day!!!!

[@jGRite]

I though the stock base model wheels on my car were ugly... but at least they aren't two toned. They look good in motion though.

[@coldsoldier313]

Great car and review👍🏾 6:00 - Mercedes-Benz has been using headrests like that for years now

[@bruintoo]

Taycan Turbo is rated by EPA at 201 miles per charge.

[@herrfleischgewehr]

bruintoo if you are driving it like tesla owners drive their teslas. You will get much more.

[@miguellopez3392]

@@herrfleischgewehr that is EPA range, its not driven by Tesla or Porsche, its driven by the government for official scores.

[@MichaelHalcrow]

The EPA range was measured by forcing the Taycan to stay stuck in 1st gear the entire time while in Sport and Sport+ modes. That's sort of like forcing a performance gas car to stay in 3rd gear for a MPG test on the freeway. The actual range of the Taycan is more like 280 miles.

[@miguellopez3392]

@@MichaelHalcrow where did you hear that?

[@TheTechofTech]

So glad to see Porsche dedicating themselves to electrification. I can’t say I’m a fan of artificial motor noise, though, and it’s especially absurd that Porsche charges $500 for the option.

[@Zarathustran]

The Tech of Tech agreed the penalty is far too low to be sufficiently impactful on the final price to discourage and at least cause drivers to consider not inflicting that polyester noise on innocent bystanders.

[@rationallion9438]

Nice. Except for the 2005 Dodge Charger chrome wheels, very nice.

[@Mike500]

4:25 The sound is not completely artificial. It's the original sound of the electric motors, amplified and EQ'd.

[@cakesandcameras8234]

From three-quarters front, reminds of a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP in the lines and proportions.

[@L77yma]

This guy is good!

[@treborheminway1196]

Everything is top-notch except the pathetic EPA range. If that is real, its a bummer.

[@MichaelHalcrow]

You can relax. It's not. Porsche used the 2-cycle EPA test, which kept the car in 1st gear (~15 ratio) in the Sport and Sport+ mode tests. That's sort of like measuring the MPG on a performance gas car on the freeway while it's stuck in 3rd gear the whole time. Real-world reports of the Taycan range are more like 300 miles in good conditions.

[@wadesultan5074]

I should add that's for the Turbo and Turbo S. Expect the 4s to get more like 240 miles of range.

[@andychristian45]

I was an original Porsche Taycan reservation holder. I love the look , but given the low EPA of 201, I can’t justify the $150k plus price. I believe the battery range will be obsolete in a year. You can’t drive it like a Porsche if your range limits you severely.

[@jc859]

I own a Tesla Model X and several Porsches and I can tell you I have never achieved the EPA range they stated (not even close). I do have a heavy right foot though. With that said, the 201 miles range (most likely 180 miles with spirited driving) of the Taycan Turbo is more than enough for a day of spirited driving.

[@almac9203]

What colour is this?

[@Joseph-du8ws]

Electric!

[@davidowen2859]

Volcano Grey

[@duileyah]

omg, those wheels are hideous! Being Porsche, they must've did it on purpose so you'll have pay extra to upgrade to normal wheels so people don't laugh at you.

[@cbatiau2528]

I like these wheels a lot... Just wish they offered 18-inch wheels also, as that would provide more comfort, safety, and range.

[@OnTheSnap1]

Aero wheels can extend range by as much as 10%

[@Steve24_7]

I agree. The ones that are seen on the white car, black with yellow calipers, are waaaay more sexy. Actually I think they're on the 4s turbo, maybe only one they offer

[@keithjackson4985]

Hilarious lol 😆! You're right though. They are.

[@Gkuljian]

I'll be much more interested when Porsche comes out with a 2 door EV. But that probably translates to better battery technology.

[@MrDuckford-oO]

Next will be Macan then Cayman from what I have read.

[@garn5341]

Refreshing! A very direct and honest review!!! Not kissing Porsche's ass and not dogging on them. Nicely done, thanks!!!

[@alcurtis7882]

Superb

[@DannyBoy-vs3gd]

Wish they used the 911 headlights

[@Dolby109]

I am sure the Taycan will make an amazing daily driver, and commuter car, that is even still fun when you want it to be. But it cannot replace the visceral connection of a good sounding ICE, with a proper manual transmission, and if I'm honest I don't really follow anyone that doesn't agree.

[@paulm6481]

Ok Boomer

[@Dolby109]

@@paulm6481 LOL moron, Boomers are the ones who drive automatics these days. Have you ever actually been to a car show?

[@Nimatodes]

201 EPA range is a bummer. The touchpad and fake noise need to go. Other than that, great car.

[@Midg-td3ty]

The fake noise is actually an extra in the 4s. If you do not want it you wont have to buy it.

[@adithyaramachandran7427]

Isn't this supposed to be compared to a Panamera, not 911 ?

[@TheHennes36]

Adithya Ramachandran nope this to me is the electric counterpart of the 911 - Porsche made this car smaller and with less space compared to the Panamera (but still much more practical compared to a 911) to prevent it from looking like a Panamera 😉

[@hypnotechno]

I have watched a number of Taycan reviews and all of them say it's the bees knees but this does not come across in emotions of the reviewers. They seems very underwhelmed emotionally. Nevertheless they must love it: Question please: When will the taycan turismo be coming out please?????

[@Brotherhood676]

People complain about the range.....if you have a long commute or are going cross country get something else but if I were going to work, around town etc...I'm not going to be using 200 miles and it will be back in my house at night charging. Also if you're dropping insane cash on this or the turbo S you most likely have another car if not multiple

[@devinbender8428]

mike gritzbach in the cold, real world conditions, and leaving 10% for emergencies. You’ll be lucky to get 120 miles of usable range in this vs 270+ on the Tesla. But k.

[@devinbender8428]

Bernd DasBrot that’s about the average in the tests I’ve seen

[@wermagst]

@@devinbender8428 Test done by carwow in Finland, north of the arctic circle in *harsh winter conditions* : 6% battery loss in 25 km = 416 km range (about 250 miles) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2Taf6qFqLWgjM0

[@alexz8373]

@@wermagst the Taycan can't drive more than 43 miles if you drive hard : kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYCxppSFbrCtrrM And at max speed, it lost here 10 % of range in only 2 kilometers !!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX-2hZmeZs6Sbrs A range of less than 20 miles at max speed on Autobahns ? Is it a joke ?

[@nateisright]

I’m going to order a 992 now, before they are extinct.

[@SP-xd8gs]

im trading my 992 for a taycan 4s, the 992 is good but a tad boring no?

[@ChristopherDillman]

7:46 - I spy a Neptune Blue Taycan. 👀

[@Thoughmuchistaken]

I wouldn't say better or worse, it's different than a 911. When I was younger I always figured someday I would end up buying a 911 as a weekend car, not anymore, I'll likely never buy another new ICE car.

[@joshmiller1640]

What a great video. That is one great car. No way (if I had the money) would I consider a Model S when I can get this.Not that there is anything wrong with the Tesla, but come on with the Taycan. The 4S would be enough that I wouldn't consider upgrading to the Turbo and Turbo S models.

[@devinbender8428]

Josh Miller but the Model S has a 315 mile range at $85,000 And the taycan has 200 mile range and $170,000

[@wadesultan5074]

@@devinbender8428 That's the Taycan Turbo and Turbo S. To be fair, Tesla does beat Porsche on range still, but that's not really why you buy the Taycan. You buy it to buy an electric sports car.

[@devinbender8428]

Wade Sultan But the taycan is only MARGINALLY better than the Tesla. Where the Tesla is half the price and double the range.

[@cunn9305]

A Tesla is nothing but an iPhone with wheels .. I wouldn't be caught dead in one ... but this .. now THIS is a sports car ... an electric 928 .. I'm buying this puppy ... cheers

[@devinbender8428]

cunn9305 with its AMAZING 200 mile range hahaha

[@Fahmbo]

cunn9305 right, which is why consumer reports rated it their best car ever in 2015 and actually had to adjust their rating scale.

[@dantem306]

The future is now old man.

[@user-bo8yt4uc8b]

3:58 How hard it would be for a car manufacturer to put the image of the right car with right wheels in the infotainment system?

[@marquerinkaccessories8111]

Stop it, time-out! This review is too good, makes my waiting time for my newly ordered Taycan too painful!

[@firstnamesecondname5341]

To paraphrase Chris Harris, the Turbo S has passed the point where a car is too powerful, they’re are beyond the capability of the all but the most trained drivers. Buy the 4S and a healthy spanking of the options list (oh and the head rest thing is standard on a Citroen C5) 😁👍👍👍👍👍

[@Yougot6dollarsbro7]

No moonroof at least though?

[@silasalberti3524]

I actually like the wheels :)

[@kevinchung1492]

With almost $120k for a lightly option 4S I would get a Model 3 performance for daily and the $60k leftover for a weekend sport car

[@devinbender8428]

Kevin Chung you could even get a Tesla Model S p100D + and still have lots of cash left over

[@RichardJoashTan]

BUT I DO NOT CARE. I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED TAYCAN TURBO S AND USE THE REMAINING CASH FOR BUYING A FULLY LOADED 2020 CAN-AM SPYDER RT LIMITED ANYWAY!

[@joshmiller1640]

@@devinbender8428 But you would be like most dweebs in LA scooting around in a Tesla. This is a Porsche!

[@kevinchung1492]

@@devinbender8428 yes but not as fun to drive as Model 3. Also much bigger. Taycan interior is close to Model 3 in size. And with $60k left I can get a really nice sport car, even a base Cayman if I really want the Porsche badge.

[@neekjp]

Kevin Chung not as fun as a model 3? you’ve obviously never driven a porsche. go drive one if you get the chance.

[@13asingh]

Would be interesting to put it against a model 3 performance

[@MrStian78]

No, not at all.

[@alexz8373]

@@MrStian78 Model 3 is faster, has a better range and costs half the price...

[@jeromelondon3609]

Alexz and doesn’t look half as good... Frankly, who would ever compare a Taycan with a model 3!?! It’s like comparing a Hermes bag with a Nike bag. They cater to different crowds!

[@peterhammer6915]

@@alexz8373 Model 3 has zero chance in rolling race. Better range??? Nope. My friend has a M3 Perf and he gets max 450km in the summer. I got 500 km with my Taycan. Yes it costs half the price and you should buy it if you are happy with a quality like a Camry from the 1990:s....

[@tommy516]

How can it be better than a 911 when they are two totally different cars, one weighs 4400 lbs and the other 3330 lbs?! This should be, better than a Panamera Hybrid?

[@Muleyasama]

Tommy they both have 4 seats, similar driving position, a frunk, power (Taycan seems to have more in most cases) etc. Thing is a 911 is a “daily” sports car. A Taycan is a sports sedan

[@Miata822]

It comes down to which you would actually buy. The reviewer and his cameraman agreed they would go for the Taycan instead of the 911. "Better" is a relative term, but once you drive and learn to live with an electric car everything else just feels old fashioned and sort of disconnected.

[@kylecronin3212]

The Taycan actually weigh 4953lbs, not 4400lbs

[@timf6916]

Nice, out of my pay grade

[@joshmiller1640]

An most other people's pay grade.

[@Joseph-du8ws]

Ditto

[@springer-qb4dv]

These cars are meant for type of people who spent over $100K on Tesla Model S or X. Market for these cars are maybe 100K sales per year max. Good to see Porsche sucking some oxygen out of fraud Elon Musk!! LOL

[@doctorj7112]

the tacan look s like the panamera should have

[@SevenDeMagnus]

So cool, very formidable and it's US$80,000 cheaper.

[@thezman350]

Take the Porsche and the Tesla and really combine the best of them then you'd have a proper electric car to revile with! And I'm a Model S owner...

[@paulm6481]

Looks good but much smaller that model S. To my eyes this is more a Model 3 competitor.

[@Joseph-du8ws]

I would still pit it up against Model S and would probably buy it over the Model S as well

[@devinbender8428]

Paul M they are very similar in size to the S on the outside (within 1/2”) but the inside is a different story. Since the Tesla was designed as an electric car it has more cabin Space. The Taycan is just an electric panamera. So less cabin space

[@devinbender8428]

Robert Blackford it’s on the same platform with similar suspension

[@devinbender8428]

Robert Blackford the J1 is the same as the MSB just for “electric only” cars. So it has modified mounting points for motors and what not. The dimensions including truck “frunk” and cabin space as well as exterior dimensions area within CM of each other. The use the EXACT same dash steering wheel, seats, suspension, tires, brakes and HUD. So yes it’s the same car.

[@devinbender8428]

Robert Blackford ITS THE SAME CHASIS! Same suspension. And frame and cabin. The ONLY difference is slight differences in at the “axels” to fit the motors and SLIGHT changes to the sub frame to fit the batter (basically moving cross bars) The doors are the same. The hoods the same. The trucks the same. The dash is the same. The handles are the same. The seats. The gear buttons. The cup holders. The cameras. The center console. EVERYTHING

[@hfe1833]

Single Turbo =201miles, dual Turbo =402 miles porche taycan soon they will release but price maybe double too

[@unenthusiast]

This has superseded my desire for an iPace! Love the 'small' wheels and chunky tyres.

[@ifazer8akathedoctor275]

I guess they didnt want to call it "robbed" Representing Deutschland, part 2.

[@dasneekj]

this is a car for ppl who want to drive - a tesla is for ppl who rather not... both have their purpose but porsche always nails driving dynamics for enthusiasts. yes some teslas are faster for less money, but driving dynamics matter to porsche buyers, which is why most porsche fans do not like a tesla.

[@almac9203]

Tesla is not quicker than the Turbo S. Don't be fooled by the conservative manufacturer numbers the Turbo S would bury the Tesla in any sort of race.

[@dasneekj]

Al mac i believe that. teslas pick up their slack in the straight lines. go on a twisty back road or a constant tight turn track and the taycan would kill it but tesla buyer’s don’t care about that. they don’t even want to drive their cars they want autopilot.

[@almac9203]

@@dasneekj without doubt the Porsche is better in the corners than the Tesla however the Porsche might actually be quicker in the straights as well. Despite what the manufacturer figures state the Porsche has beaten the Tesla in a drag race on two separate occasions. The Tesla fanboys make all sorts of excuses but the Porsche beat the Tesla in a drag race in both the dry and wet conditions. In the dry conditions it was close but in the wet conditions it was a slaughter.

[@alexz8373]

@@dasneekj Taycan is for people who want to drive ? If you drive it hard, Taycan't do 50 miles ;)

[@alexz8373]

Wrong, this video concerns the 4S and the Tesla is way faster ! And the 200k Turbo S is quicker than the 100k Tesla only above 140 km/h...

[@larrysmith6797]

Angeleees Crest.

[@peterjones9525]

The ev milk float has moved up the ladder

[@QuietStormX]

While your Driving a EV you like anyone would have the radio on or some tracks to drown it out..

[@legacyjeetkunedo492]

True drivers want to control both acceleration and braking, not leave it up to the car to brake for you.

[@andychang7137]

my model 3's battery degrades by almost 7% after 2 years of use this may concerns me to get a sports EV (family model 3 I don't care that much...)

[@ferengoid]

Are you looking after your batteries? You shouldn't charge to 100% unless necessary, and also don't discharge past 40% or so. For daily driving, keep it in those ranges, and only extend beyond if needed.

[@odisy64]

Batteries lose a bit of range when fisrt used but it slows down, usually 10% after 200k miles.

[@Refrieddog]

It just needs to go 400 miles on one charge then it is the perfect car

[@Miata822]

How often do you drive more than 200 miles in a day? Leaving home with a full charge every morning few people will use quick charging unless they are on a trip. Even then they will probably stop for lunch or at least a bladder break while charging.

[@Refrieddog]

Bill Kerr yea but i like driving from vegas to irvine without stopping And i make this trip a lot We will probably get there one day

[@RobsRantsOfficial]

Every single review is the same thing. Drives great, not too practical, okay miles, pretty expensive. I haven't seen any good tech, user interface, much more.

[@ab185]

I spec'd one out and it ended up being close to $135k. Alternatively I could get a Tesla Model S Long Range for $55k less, be just as fast from 0-60, have an extra 120+ miles of driving range, nationwide Supercharger network, and AutoPilot on top of that. Porsche completely missed the mark on the Taycan and to make up for it they decided to charge about $75k too much.

[@peterhammer6915]

so the Porsche should cost the same as a Tesla, which quality is that of a -90:s Camry? What?? LMFAO 😂😂😂 In our country the Taycan sells at the moment better than all other Porsche models count together.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

This is further proof that Porsche does not know how to make a 4-door sedan look good. First, the Hideous Panamera, and now this. They should look at Aston Martin....

[@Billybobca]

Porsche should stick to the 911, Taycans's EPA range of 201miles means only a die-hard Porsche fanatic will buy this at $200K. And with no high speed charging network - how to get outside the city to the track, do laps at high speed, then return home with 201 miles?

[@fernandokaadou97]

Nice car but I prefer a petrol engine Porsche

[@RichardJoashTan]

But I do not care. I will buy a fully loaded Taycan Turbo S anyway.

[@joshmiller1640]

And planet earth weeps.

[@DFWRob]

Josh Miller lol. Go worship Greta

[@St.Maurice]

Hopefully won't depreciate like a rock like the Panamera or Cayenne.

[@doctorj7112]

My issue with this car is the range

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

The build quality of the interior might make Tesla pull their finger out.

[@alexz8373]

Build quality ? lol... www.motorbiscuit.com/looks-like-porsche-taycans-have-huge-quality-issues/

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

@@alexz8373 I've read the article. I'm going to say set up.

[@yehudagoldberg6400]

Lol only 201 miles on the EPA cycle. Tesla gets 373.

[@yehudagoldberg6400]

@Robert Blackford Since I don't understand, please explain kind sir. Is it about spending more money on a car that Is slower? Seats fewer people? Has half the range? Is a decade behind with technology? Please enlighten me.

[@yehudagoldberg6400]

@Robert Blackford Granted the Taycan handles better on the track and has nicer materials inside, but is that really worth it considering everything the Tesla does better?

[@devinbender8428]

Yehuda Goldberg Exactly. For $80k more it needs the better suspension, better interior that it has but I needed to have like a 400 mile range AND more storage and seating. But it doesn’t. If this car was $130k for the Turbo S that would be better not $160-$180k

[@marsrover790]

201 miles is for the taycan turbo, the turbo s should be even lower. Starting price of 150k for 201 miles. I know porsche is a prestigious brand but this just does not make sense

[@NarasimhaDiyasena]

You’re forgetting that Porsche is Porsche and Tesla is an over priced plastic piece of shit. You want a proper comparison you’ll need to have it stand against Mercedes

[@marsrover790]

EPA Range just released is 201 miles. "Tesla killer"

[@jlo6388]

I think research shows on average people use it for a certain mileage and 99% of ecar users are okay with the amount.

[@cbatiau2528]

I'd much rather have this with a range less than that of the Tesla; this is a far-superior car to the Model S in every way but range. Once you get less than 4 seconds for 0-60 mph, it doesn't really matter the differences below 4 seconds for 99% of people.

[@marsrover790]

@@cbatiau2528 please tell me in detail why this car is superior to the model s. I am open to learning

[@devinbender8428]

stephen because it’s a Porsche lmfao. Tesla haters and Porsche fan boys. the car cost 2x as much and has 2/3 the range.

[@cbatiau2528]

@@marsrover790 It's essentially the same price as a Model S, if you don't go crazy on options. Car Wow's KZbin video shot on ice/snow in sub-zero temps and studded snow tires in Finland yielded 258 miles of range in the 93-kWh Taycan 4S. What does the Model S P100D get for range in sub-zero temps on snow/ice? Please understand that, while I doubt I'll ever own a Tesla (and I've owned 3 Porsches), I am extremely thankful for Tesla's success and am very impressed by Tesla's superior technology; Tesla is better than Porsche by a long ways in their battery capacity. I've driven a Model S, and a good friend of mine owns one and loves it, and I've talked long hours with him about it, asking him about autopilot, about its range in different temps, about charging issues, etc. But I know from my Panameras that Porsches are really well built and that their seats are more comfortable for long road trips. I think that the computer screens in the Taycan look far superior to what Teslas have; I'm not a fan of big computer "tablets" that look like they're glued on to a dashboard as an afterthought, and I'm not a fan of the lack of instrument "gauges" behind the steering wheel (having to look over to the center screen in the Model 3, for example, for your speed). I think that the embedded digital screens look much better in the Taycan than the Tesla's large "tablets"; I like that you can optionally get a plain metal roof instead of a glass roof in the Taycan; I like the exterior appearance more in the Taycan (though the Model S is by far the best-looking Tesla, and I've always liked its exterior). Personally, I won't buy the Taycan in its current trim levels, but I will give a really good look at the forthcoming Cross Turismo (presumably a true hatchback with some extra ground clearance and presumably seating for three in the back seat) and the forthcoming Macan BEV. What's great is that Tesla is spurring all these other automakers to come out with things to rival the Teslas, and that's a good thing for everybody. Kudos to both Tesla and Porsche for their EVs. No other automaker so far has a good-looking and fun-to-drive EV worth seriously looking at, save maybe for Volvo (Polestar 2) and Ford (Mach-E); I also test-drove an I-Pace and was not impressed, and the e-tron is having tons of problems.

[@florianhaffner3910]

Much sexier than any Tesla.

[@krrk6337]

I'm sure he's Kyle Reese came back from the future.

[@skylerssupercarlife348]

It has 4 doors, yeah, I'm good.

[@yehudagoldberg6400]

Get the Tesla Roadster 2.

[@GowthamNatarajanAI]

@@yehudagoldberg6400 it does not exist

[@eternalsn1per104]

@@yehudagoldberg6400 It is not even comparable it’s like comparing meat to chocolate, the Tesla roadster and the Porsche that an is not really comparable

[@mohammadrah5930]

Hi, from Matt

[@clay2k452]

With an EPA range of 201 miles. No thank you. I would rather buy a Tesla Model S and Model 3 for that price.

[@craigspender1710]

Read the latest reviews where they compare the two back to back in exactly the same driving scenario. The difference between the two is like 10 miles. Not sure what the EPA was doing (Unlike other cars, the EPA themselves did the numbers for the Taycan, not Porsche) but range is a non-issue in real-world scenarios.

[@ShermanMR2]

Electric cars are the real deal. All you need to do is drive one to understand.

All you have to do is charge one on the road to know it's crap!

[@ShermanMR2]

Will Jacobs I agree that the charging infrastructure could be a little bit better but 90+ percent of your charting will be at home.

[@ShermanMR2]

Bernd DasBrot Agreed they definitely accelerate fast.They are also very smooth and very quiet inside. And then you get the added benefit of never having to put gas in again. 🤣

@@ShermanMR2 Up yours.

[@ShermanMR2]

Will Jacobs Wow you’re classy.

[@anoniem9518]

Great review about a great car (the best EV until today imho). However one little mistake is made in the intro. Gas powered cars will never be a history lesson. They will continue to exist, since an ICE engine gives has revs, a heartbeat which you can hear and feel. You can play that heartbeat with your gearbox and throttle. This driving sensation and driving involvement is something a EV never can reproduce. Therefor there always will be a market for fast ICE powered cars.

[@Lifeisapartydresslikeit]

I hope you’re right because this isn’t what the government wants. 4 years later from when this original comment was mad there’s many more EVs and there will continue to be more and more - that’s a reality

[@alcurtis7882]

Superb car forget Tesla

[@alexz8373]

But this 4S is very slow, slower than a small Tesla...

[@TheLinama]

its not a better car yet. I know several who owns it. lots of problems. not enough charging stations. quality issues. ways to go

[@gigi9467]

Maybe this guys will figure out how to make a reliable electric cuz theyre gas powered ones are garbage! Lease it and give it back for sure

[@almac9203]

Porsche always rates near the top of the list for most reliable cars. Tesla is near the bottom for quality and reliability so not sure what you are smoking.

[@gigi9467]

Al mac bro please, u want me to go into their electronics issues? Or their ims bearing issues? Come one. Sure maybe they are reliable compared to the other piece of shit german cara lol but thats not saying much, go ask a mechanic not a paid off magazine

[@alexz8373]

@@almac9203 lol... Tesla is 4th in UK, Porsche only 23th ;) www.whatcar.com/news/2019-what-car-reliability-survey-brands/n20069

[@aleksandarnemcev7550]

@vonderleyen @VUBrussel и @EU_Commission DOU JOU LIKE NEW ELEKTIC CARS,TRUKS,AUTOBUS ,TAUN AND LENDS NEW CLEAN ENERGY,NOT 2050 IT,S DIS MOMENT CO2 ,ZIRO PROCENT

[@lwwells]

$100k with 1/2 the range and 1/2 the performance of the model s. How is that a “genuine rival”?

[@zakelwe]

It;s not half the performance of the model S and as everyone keeps saying who has tested it the ride and handling are better, it drives better and it is made better. The S has better software and more room. Looks are subjective but the S looks old and dated to me now.

[@lwwells]

@@zakelwe "It's not 'twice' the perfomance." At twice the price you should be able to make a much more solid argument than that.

[@ChalrieD]

Better than a 911 because it’s electric. Not better than a Model S because it’s trying to be gas while accelerating like an electric. Porsche needs to stop the gimmicks and embrace electric.

[@sloflo]

To recap: Legacy car maker with over 100 years experience creates car with subpar range and specs from 2012. At least 5 years behind on the rest of the technology (infotainment, self driving, EBS, crash safety ratings), with the same tired design and charges a ridiculous price based simply on its brand name. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah... no charging network. So even though it takes 800v fast DC is all you’re gonna get for a long long time.

[@MetikalMan]

Second generation Taycan will probably lose over 100kg and double its range, and charge in 20min. Then it will conquer all.

[@peterhammer6915]

no they won't. And they charge from 20 to 80% already in 20 minutes. And who needs double range. I got my 4S to 500km in the summer easily, that's plenty enough.

[@SP-xd8gs]

@@peterhammer6915 thinking to trade in my 992 for one, thoughts? is the taycan fun enough? or does it get boring

[@TheHomeExpert5]

Whoever thinks this car is good looking probably thinks the Pontiac Aztek was gorgeous.

[@minnguyen4872]

lol 201 miles range with a car 200k$ in 2020...i dont know winter time or cold weather ..even less miles

[@andychristian45]

I reserved a Porsche a Taycan and love the car, but the EPA rating of 201 has me very concerned. I have a feeling the low EPA and battery capacity will have the Porsche Taycan lose value quickly...like buying a BMW I3 several years ago. If the EPA was close to 300 I would buy it!

[@pojdiavaj1422]

$200k for 200mi = never

[@MichaelHalcrow]

It's 200 miles if you throw it in Sport+ mode and force it to stay in 1st gear the whole time, spending a lot of the test at max RPM. That's what the EPA test did. The actual price of a 4S is closer to $120k, and you're getting a Porsche with closer to 280 miles of range.

[@niacal4nia]

Calling an EV turbo is like calling a Quartz watch a turbo automatic watch.

[@3107karan]

$1000 for every 1mile range😂😂😂

[@pr7638]

refering to a test that produced rubbish data/results and using smileys like a 12 year old girl.. yikes man

[@freakerss]

@@pr7638 Adding smileys after a comment is like adding a laugh track in a sitcom, super cringey.

[@moneyparhar]

Those wheels r hideous