2020 Raptor Comparison with a 2017 - Whats new?

[@munk469]

Just wanted to drop you a note and thank you for giving me courage to get a raptor. I did find a smoking deal on a 2018 with 5300 miles on it. I’ve been thinking about it for a few years and looking at them and test driving them. But wasn’t sure about the investment but I’m stoked with zero buyers remorse thus far. Anyway thank with assisting in my decision. Glad you went with another raptor.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Glad I could help and congrats on the new truck. Your going to love it

[@BadV2]

Third brake light housing and internals. If you look at the 17 the center led is dim. Look closely at the two covers. You’ll see the difference in reflectors.

[@BadV2]

A couple of other changes. Rear third brake light changed in '18 and the front windshield camera/sensor changed from the '17. It is relocated higher. Look at the front windshield to notice. Good luck with the new truck!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

BadV2 third brake light looked the same to me. What changed? Did see the camera changed and the 19s now have that shark fin on the roof too.

[@mmonti77]

Many of the differences you pointed out are because you got the Recaro package. If you had gotten the standard interior much more would be the same between 2017 and 2020. The standard wheel still has perforated leather on the sides, etc.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Michael Monti good to know. The new steering wheel material on the recaro is a big improvement over my 17.

[@bwpospolyta]

Great video thanks for posting; coming out of warranty soon and debating about going with a 2020.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

b pospolyta anytime man. Overall it’s minor differences. The big improvement is the seats

[@pat9125]

I'm very interested in your video series. I have a 19 with the Recaros...after 10k they look exactly as they did when I bought it. I don't off road anywhere near as much as you will so your results will be fascinating. The live valve shocks seem legit and your opinion will be invaluable. I agree with you on the wheels...I actually bought the 17/18 bead locks and swapped them onto mine. I think they are the perfect wheel for the truck. I haven't had any issues with my pano roof and curious how yours holds up to extreme off roading over time. Love you channel!!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Pat thanks man 🙏🙏. Very encouraged to hear the Recaros are holding up. Heard from a few that the felt it tough. We plan on doing a long term review. As for the sunroof, issues with those things are very well documented on the forums. I’ve seen friends sunroof crack from too much flexing. And then there is the problem of the rail breaking after not using the sunroof for a while and trying to open it. I wish we could have avoided it. But In Cali we could not find a single truck without it. As for the Live Valves, I hope to take it offroad soon. So far they are a huge improvement on the road but they are a little too stiff. Specially in the back. Little bumps and speed bumps destabilize the truck too easily on the street. I’m hoping after some full articulations offroad they soften a little.

[@davejordan2337]

Color changing ambient lighting and cd player are gone also. And another thing is the gear select indicator at the shiftier no longer lights up. Nice to see that Ford has upgraded some things from 1 year to the next, but also cheapened and eliminated things also. Looking forward to seeing how the live valve shocks work for you. I'm sure you are going to test the hell out of them. Love the seats. When are you going to get it painted that lime green??

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Completely forgot about the CD player. I never use it so it didn’t even cross my mind. But yeah surprised by the areas they went cheaper with. So far the new center console is really noisy. Going to have to take it apart and put some felt tape on key areas. As for the color, 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don’t know. Lime green would stand out

[@davejordan2337]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the red led warning in the dash for the crash warning was eliminated also.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

David Jordan you may be right. The slot is still there as if it had the LEDs, but I have not seen them go off yet. Will have to test it out

[@sergioacevedo2874]

Can you confirm if they also updated the adaptive cruise control. My biggest pet peeve is that mine (2017) shuts off after you go below 17mph. I heard the 2019+ now completely stop in traffic and then takes off again once traffic takes off. Also on the door I set my color to blue and it is red when the door is open and back to blue when closed. I also hate the key fob I've always been curious if I can buy the raptor fob and do the cup holder programming thing.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

SERGIO ACEVEDO I will tear out the adaptive cruise control. I did not like it much with the 17. There is not option to change the LED ambient color at all on the 18-20 Raptors. Blue is the only option And yes, you can get the new remote and it will work with the old ones. But at over $200 per remote it’s way too expensive

[@sergioacevedo2874]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Oh wow really? It has its quirks but I love it on long trips and especially in LA traffic lol. Oh that sucks wonder why they took the color change away. I change my color like once a quarter lol. Oh dang 200 bucks I could use that money on better mods lol. Saw some keys on ebay but seems sketchy to get them there. Also stock speakers suck even with B&O I just finished my speaker mod for under 400 bucks. Changed the tweeters, center, 4 doors with pioneers and difference was night and day from like a naisaly sound to clarity. And upgraded the sub and added a 300w Amp to the sub with minimal mod was able to reuse the factory plug. The only difference with Sony and B&O is I think you need to for scan some setting for B&O but I highly recommend the mod.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

SERGIO ACEVEDO yeah, I’m not impressed with the B&O system. I personally think the Sony sounded better. The new speakers sound hollow and bass is not crisp. But yeah the new system does require some fires an changes just to get others to work so I’m just going to stick with stock.

[@sergioacevedo2874]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad when I was doing research the B&O tapers off the bass when you go past 15 or so to compensate for the stock Amp it has and to avoid speaker warranty damage lol. I feel ya if I had to do for scan I wouldn't have done the upgrade but with the Sony system was much easier simple swap and plug and play

[@simonj126]

My 2019 has true stop and go cruise control.

[@MarkJones-sk6vk]

Nice. It will be nice to see if the live valve will make up for the 5 inch travel difference. We might not need the rst18

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Mark Jones we will see. So far on the street they are much stiffer. A little too stiff in some situations. That may be good for off-road though. We will see

[@BLACKNOY0979]

The more I watch raptor movies the more I’m liking the 3rd generation raptor….

[@sparda1123]

Looking forward to the coming videos! Hoping to get myself a 20 by late Q1 early Q2 next year. I'm also still on the fence about the Recaros. Suede is annoying to clean instead of leather and the blue suede hasn't grown on me yet. Also, still undecided on good graphic or not. The rear side ones are a bit tacky to me.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

So far so good with the Suede. it really helps keep you in place. With a blue truck, the blu suede looks good. As for the graphics, I made sure to find one without them. At over $1000 for those silly stickers they are not worth it. And I think they are ugly.

[@almolah]

one thing you missed is the shark fin antenna on the 2020 raptor!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Yeah I know 🤦‍♂️. We also missed the different collision warning lights that are now gone, as well as the new system can also bring the truck to a complete stop now. Haven’t tested it yet because I don’t trust it.

[@sixshooter4570]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad It works really well on my 2019.

[@edmeyer4800]

I think the turbos are bigger on 18s 19s 20s I wonder how much of performance difference it really makes?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Ed Meyer yeah, in 18 they went bigger. But the performance stayed the same. I think they went bigger for reliability, not power

[@DiaperSNiFFER]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yeah it’s for more longer lasting for sure

[@online_now6834]

Found a 2017 90k miles for 40k, this a good deal? How reliable are these Raptors especially at 90k?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Online_Now not sure if it’s a good deal man. Check KBB or NADA to see if it’s a good deal. As for reliability, my 2017 was awesome. I beat the hell out of it and it did great. Ecoboost platform in general is reliable and goes Will into 100k range. On the Raptors, guys are just starting to hit those miles so I don’t know.

[@sponsurd]

From a reputable Ford engineer, the 3.5 eco-boost is just as reliable as the 6.2 v8, with proper maintenance of course.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

I believe it. This my 3rd and ecoboost and they have been solid. The engine is the least of my worries.

[@cramdangle]

That’s a pretty good price. Gonna be hard to find a 2nd gen for that cheap

[@Antho-R22]

So.. how much for the old beadlocks rings?!? Happy you got back in a Raptor.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Anthony you looking for all 6 or just 4?

[@Antho-R22]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Really would only need 4 for my "offroad" set.

[@Paintbrush54]

i have a 2019 raptor and i have everything it in besides the blue inside but how did you get the sliver on the dash all carbon to match bc the 2020 blue on blue i looked at has the sliver on the inside

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Gaming with Zach that stripped silver ish trim is part of the recaro seat package. It’s like extra carbon fiber look

[@freethinkingamerican80]

My hotspot for my 19 is through AT&T and you have to sign up for it or something. I dont even get why it's important to have a hotspot?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Ryan Nolan I have not plans on enabling mine. Dealer said it was thru Verizon but I have not really gone in to check.

[@pat9125]

Krazyhousecustoms makes a mean Torque Arm for the Raptor. I've installed one on mine and it's impressive. I've never heard you comment on those and wondered if you had any thoughts of giving one a try on your new build?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

just gave the Torque arm a quick peak. Looks interesting, but not sure if the benefits are worth the cost. Would be nice if they put together a before and after video to see the improvements you get. Also would be worried about the arm limiting the suspension from articulating side to side. Need more info on it.

[@sixshooter4570]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Here's the link to the before and after video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH6vdpxqgpaNi7M When asked about articulation they stated that it wouldn't be affected.

[@craigd5965]

Is the window broke at 7:10

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Craig D on the 2017? Yeah man. The whole driver side is messed up from the accident. Look back on the feed here for details but essentially a UTV totaled my 17 Raptor

[@freethinkingamerican80]

You should have swapped wheels with your old truck if you liked them that much

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Ryan Nolan 2 out of the 4 wheels on the truck were bent. Yeah I know. I bent 3 forged wheels. I was playing way too hard. I was in the process of looking for new wheels for the truck before the accident.

[@freethinkingamerican80]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad wow you bent them that's crazy, I'm in the process of swapping to some ProAm RM2 wheels, should be lighter and stronger than my current forged wheels.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Ryan Nolan will have to check them out. Still looking for new wheels for the new truck. The new Beadlocks stick out way too much for my taste. They are going to get so fucked up

[@redjonnyboy00]

I had an 18 now I have a 19 and they changed the augmented engine sound the 19 is louder and has more "fake" engine sound

[@josephfoster30]

Does the 2017 have oil pan leaks?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

My old 17 Raptor never had an oil leak from the oil pan. The drain plug on the other hand does. Your suppose to replace the oil drain plug every other oil change. I was doing it every 10k miles to make sure I would not get any more leaks.

[@niels00081]

Did both your raptors had the plastic oil pan with the yellow drain plug?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

No. 17 has the plastic pan, 20 has the metal one. Plastic pan was replaced mid 2018 forward

[@The_Mustang_Den]

What are you going to break first? Gonna need a bigger cup holder for your Pumpkin Spice Latte.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Rshane P you know it. 🤣🤣🤣 First mod is a cup holder big enough to hold it

[@spearonehard]

19s sit 1.5 inches higher in the front.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

we only had them side by side for a little while I did notice the new Live Valve shocks put the truck a little higher. Wish we would have measured it.

[@sponsurd]

Is this true? I can’t find it anywhere online.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

I don’t know 🤷‍♂️ I was not able to confirm it myself. My 17 was pretty damaged and by the time I fully stock 17 I had already upgraded to the Eibach springs

[@sponsurd]

Just confirmed that the 19-20’s do NOT in fact sit 1.5” higher. All gen 2’s are the same height.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

That’s what I though. Did you measure or find it listed somewhere?

[@peterk814]

Your one son with the glasses is not helpful

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

🤣🤣🤣

[@tommybahamax]

HATE HATE those blue seats, need more color options, and the sons annoying voice, horrible.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

The blue seats are not for everyone. but they look good on the blue raptors and they are way better than the stock seats. They hold you much better. As for my sons voice. He's a kid and you're a grown up. Go be mean to your own kids man. I'm going to let him be himself.

[@mariooliver9110]

Hater. Go and share your useless comments somewhere else. So disrespectful of others family 🖕🏻