2020 Superduty 7.3 Towing 8000# Travel Trailer

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From our previous video, you may know, we purchased a 2020 F 350 super duty with the new 7.3 gas engine to replace our 2019 F 250 with the 6.2. This video is to give you an idea of what the characteristics of the truck are while towing an 8000 pound travel trailer that is roughly 30 foot in length.

[@gregc9220]

Love the sound of a big inch engine when towing!

[@skeleguns10oooooo10]

With Flowmaster it sounds better

[@blkfeet29]

Flowmasters are so 2020. Go with Borla Atak!!😃

[@ventureswithbob]

2015 F-250 2wd, extended cab, 6.2 GAS, 363,400 miles. Oil changed at 15K, full synthetic oil, no repairs other than scheduled maintenance. I haul exotic and antique cars and motorcycles all over the country in a 24’ enclosed trailer. An average month is 10,000 miles. Usually two bikes and a car on a trip. Also a travel-lite 6.5’ slide in truck camper approximately 2,000 lbs. 17K-18K gross is a normal load. I do this for a living, the math for a diesel just doesn’t work until you get over 20K gross. Initial cost for the engine upgrade, higher fuel price, def, extra weight, more moving parts, etc. My cost per mile is just shy of .19 cents per mile cheaper than a diesel in the same configuration.

[@buzztrucker]

Eh. My 2002 F350 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel have over 240k and still running strong and I got my truck for 17k it's a fully loaded lariat crew cab long bed 4x4.

[@mario-sl6cz]

so happy you got one of these 7.3s

[@Scrambler85]

I have the 2021 E350 with the 7.3 with 4.56 gears and the 6 speed transmission. It climbs the mountains around Asheville NC effortlessly. Im averaging around 13.5 empty.

[@rickromans2749]

Great information. liked the filming of the dash as you drove, showing in real time what's happening. thanks!

[@billybob-zg4bx]

Thanks for the video. I’ve been trying to decide between the 3.73 and 4.30 gears and I finally found your video showing something comparable to what I will be hauling. Thanks again.

[@rememberthefallen1970]

I'll be ordering the 7.3 for the 2022 model year. Love the interior changes

[@18fisher1]

Great video and info. Currently in a 6.8 v-10 and planning the next tow rig.

[@krislilly8916]

There is my tow video I’ve been waiting for

[@W6RIPRadioAdventures]

Aw dood! my first car was a 82 Merc Capri 5.0. Memories of tons of burnouts

[@theamericanforester]

I've got to get a new truck and have researched and reviewed for 2 whole years. Ibew union electrician, I have a 7000 pound 30 foot bumper pull trailer and will be traveling for the foreseeable 5 years. I refuse to get a diesel for such little weight, and with Per Diem truck calls going for $115 per day for crew cab 4x4 f250+, it makes sense to me to buy the newly designed 7.3l on an xl f250 platform. 6 speed 6.2 is proven technology, but worse mpg over time and not as easy to service, as well as transmission is geared for towing not for saving gas. 7.3l you can lock out specific gears which is the game changer, as well as the bigger tank. $49,569 @84 months here in Augusta @3.84 APR Looking at lass than 700$/mo. Worth it for me! Thanks for your review buddy, I've watched your previous videos while I've done my research. Thanks, and good luck!

[@theamericanforester]

I ended up purchasing for the final price of 63 and 1/2 thousand dollars an f250 lariat FX4 package with every single thing I want on it including a moonroof a sunroof and block heater and dual batteries and dual alternators 10-speed transmission 7.3 and it's a 2021 model! I'm very excited for it to get here should be here by Thanksgiving 2020

[@itsjusta2v198]

@@theamericanforester hell yeah that’s worth it

[@fighthard21]

I ordered a f350 7.3 about 3 weeks ago. How has your truck been so far?

[@theamericanforester]

@@fighthard21 I ended up not buying it after he got built it was just too much damn money for $63,000 and still getting 13 miles a gallon or less

[@IbanezRG570T]

Love your channel, you helped me get really interested I my old big block ford and want to help it reach its full potential!

[@richardmoss8757]

You made the right choice I’m an old truck driver log diesel motors but love strong gas motors more did you notice a big difference from the six to

[@nicolathonathan770]

Just brought a 2020 F250 7.3L CCSB and I tow a 3000 lbs little camper. Love the way it tow, feel very comfortable with huge towing and payload capacity margin.

[@JJR1371]

Haha… My Subaru toes more than that, of course a HD pickup tows it good lol. A Ranger would tow that good😂

[@campingalan]

Hi there! Thank you for showing your towing experiences with your new7.3! I just ordered an F350 7.3 with 4.30 gears yesterday. We ordered an Outdoors RV travel trailer as well. Loaded up, it will probably be about the same weight as yours. We live in CO and there is definitely a crew of people that would say we should have got a diesel. But, I've towed here with the 6.2l F250, and it did fine. The gas rig will probably be 30 seconds behind the diesel if both were towing weights up a mountain pass. Safe travels!!

[@Foxboss9]

Yeah the days of gasoline being a non performing engine when it comes to Towing is definitely in days of past. I would have to think that you are probably going to be heavier than us as our combined weight fully loaded with everything is 17000 pounds. I believe those outdoor RVs are pretty heavy because of the way they are built. Unless you have a 25 footer then at that point you might be close to ours.

[@campingalan]

@@Foxboss9 Good morning! Yes...times and technology have sure changed! We just got rid of our 1996 454 powered Suburban. It was actually a pig here in in CO in the mountains just towing 5 or 6k with my wife's vw bug and a trailer. This new one should have almost 50% more power. Yes...the ORVs are definitely heavy. Ours empty (a 26 and some change foot model) is 6400lbs. I assume I'll usually be under 8500lbs, until I fill up the fresh water. It holds 80gal's. The manufacturer's listed CCC is like 3300lbs, for a gvwr of about 10k. I guess I'll have space to bring my anvil, bench vise, maybe collect some rock boulders for the front yard, and such. Have a great day!

[@BarnStangz]

Good video. I think Ford has a winner on their hand with this 7.3 gas. Most people THINK they need a diesel, but in reality most of them do not. I would enjoy the feeling of not having to worry about the issues of a modern diesel and all the emission control systems. I too am looking at a 7.3 gas pickup, but will likely wait a bit before pulling the trigger. It would be interesting to see the towing characteristics of the F250/350 with that Tremor package since I think you get the 4:30's. Thanks for sharing.

[@mikegoogleuser509]

Nice Capri at the intro. I am glad to see this review with the 7.3 and 3.73 gears along with the mpg feedback; as well as feedback from those with the 3.55s. Too many reviews have the 7.3 hooked up to 4.30s which is more than I need for my 7,500 travel trailer towing needs.

[@orlandograyson4543]

instablaster...

[@davidh6292]

Test drove a 2021 f350 7.3 gas yesterday. Looking to haul a skidsteer. With skid and trailer we'll be about 13,000 pounds with trailer and skid. We're thinking should be a good truck for that. What are your thoughts on hauling that weight? We're not buying for fuel mileage we're buying for a work truck. Mainly hauling skid around town like a 20 mile radius couple jobs a little farther. Thoughts or concerns would be appreciated

[@OpenAirAdventure]

Great all around gear ratio for pulling and empty, much better than 355.

[@michaeldegan8491]

Getting ready to pull the trigger on a 2121 F-350SRW Long Bed with the 7.3 gas engine. Any new thoughts on this truck combo?

[@davidmoore9963]

I have a 1996 f250 4 door crew with the 460 and I love it. Refuse to get rid of it. But I am going to be doing updates on it...I.E. interior ect..the new 7.3 is a beast and does work with no whimpering. Congrats on the new truck..

[@JimLBon]

That much power paired with that many gears has to make for an effortless towing experience.

[@habanero8192]

Congratulations on the new 2020 Superduty, that thing looks, sounds and behaves like a (wonderful) beast! ... although it's brand new, as a person that frequently works on and upgrades their vehicles, are you planning anything devious in the way of modifications for your new 7.3? ... many thanks in advance sir!

[@ckonthebay1950]

Thank you for the review. After dealing with DEF issues on my 6.7 I’m done with the diesel. Tired of sitting on the side of the road in idle. Cause some sensor thinks to much emissions is going out the pipe. Going to order a 7.3 tomorrow. Our camper is 9000 unloaded. I think I’m going to go with the 4:30 gears though.

[@blkfeet29]

May I ask why you would go with 4:30? Not being a dick. Just trying to figure out what I need

[@ckonthebay1950]

blkfeet29 I’m going to becoming from a 6.7 dually, so I’m spoiled with the power. Actually this has been my forth diesel since 1998. I want the most gvwr for a trailer as I can get. Actually if you get the the dually with the 7.3 I believe it comes standard with the 4:30. With the 3:73 your rated at 15,900lbs for a fifth wheel and 4:30 19,000lbs for fifth wheel the way I spect out my new truck. Both gears are rated for 15,000lbs conventional tow. This time around I’m going to a SRW. Just tired of driving a dually for now and want a change. With the troubles that I’m having with the def system as also turned me off for now on the diesel. Maybe when the time comes down the road to get another truck they will have gotten the system figured out and I may go back. But for now no thanks. Over it.

[@blkfeet29]

Thank you for your response and making it make sense. I'm going to be coming from a f150 and I need something with more ass, sometimes! Diesel obviously has more ass but the added cost is scary to me. So after hearing from you and some other people I think I'm going to go with the 7.3. Once again thank you for your input.

[@ckonthebay1950]

blkfeet29 After sitting on the side of the road several times in idle waiting on a tow truck sucks. My truck has been at the dealer a month and a half now. I would get it back and only be able to drive it 3 days and it would go back in idle and back to the shop on a tow truck. At the moment they think it is fixed and they have been driving it a week now and it’s still running. Going to call first thing in the morning and if it’s still running and not going into fault we are picking it up and going straight to another dealer that I have a deal worked out with and trading it in. Have to order the new truck so it will be a long wait but I’m soooooo over this diesel at this point I could care less and just want to move on.

[@linzybanks6618]

@@ckonthebay1950 I’m looking at these trucks and seriously considering ordering one myself. What kind of discount from MSRP are you able to get buying it this way?

[@tomkohman4620]

Foxboss, thanks for the great video! I was wondering if your truck can display transmission fluid temp and what the temp is for you when towing your trailer in the hills. Thanks

[@Foxboss9]

Yes... the transmissions for the last few years run more hot than what we are accustomed to with older trucks. The transmission temperature never exceeded 225

[@DirtDigger74]

Does that truck have a brake control in the dash or is it integrated in with the trailer settings?

[@NickButters61]

Since this video is a year old, have you come across any instance you may of wanted 4.30 rear end? Thanks!

[@goodtalker]

Nice vid sir. I was wonder about your two truck you mentioned. When you went from a F250 to the F350, did you have any additional fees to pay? Was your new truck considered a commercial truck? Also, did your F250 and F350 both have at least one carrier bearing on the rear axle? Thank sir. Have a good day.

[@andrewbaareman699]

What size bed did you go with and what gear ratio do you have

[@BKD70]

I'm wanting to replace my 2002 Duramax with this truck, same as yours. How is it dealing with fuel stops while pulling the travel trailer? With the diesel Duramax, I just pull through the diesel lanes with the big trucks... easy peasy. But dealing with the car lanes to get gas, sounds kinda like a PITA. What is your experience?

[@Foxboss9]

With a 30 ft rv it's not bad... We are roughly 55' total length..

[@Soladaddy]

For routes traveled more than once, you remember the good and bad stops. I'm 53 ft connected with a 36ft 5th wheel. Have a diesel but can't fit the big nozzles so I have to hit the car diesel pumps.

[@mariobrothers8348]

I love my 2020 7.3 gas motor but I already had my front main seal replaced because it was leaking. I tow 13,500 lb fifth wheel about 7000 miles a year. The seal went out at 18,000 miles. It has 23,000 miles now and its good so far. My mechanic made a video with the fix. Its on KZbin somewhere

[@mariobrothers8348]

Towing with it is a breeze. I have gone through the smokey mountains a few times. Never have I felt like I could use more power. Sometimes an an exhaust brake could of been some help going down some steep hills but using the engine brake in low gear work fine. The fix held up great. No issues whatsoever after that. For your weight a diesel might work better but it all depends on how many miles you pull a year. The 7.3 would do a good job if you don't want to deal with the modern diesel emissions. You could change the engine twice for the same money you would have to chage just the fuel system on the diesel. That's not including the DEF system.

[@jc7435]

I saw that video. That mechanic does a lot of diesel videos (if it’s the same one). Don’t worry about the seal it shouldn’t happen again. It was a defective part.

[@wevdog]

The revs stay high when you let off the gas for a long time because its in tow-haul. if you took that off it would drop into a higher gear much quicker.

[@dam4274]

TFL, Andre made a video about the 7.3 problem of defective spark plug wires. It’s just a $24 part but you don’t want to be left stranded somewhere.

[@Foxboss9]

#7.... Lol. Lots of people been talking about that. It's a panic move. There's so many people that are not experiencing that problem but are scared to death but they have cost those spark plug wires to go on National backorder with Ford Motor Company. That part is it's just a plug wire. Sure it's not the exact Factory part that is needed for longevity but pretty much any coil wire off the shelf especially performance ones can get you to where you need to be if you do just bite a slim chance have an issue.

[@jeffreykern6261]

What was the difference in mpg between your 6.2 and the 7.3 unloaded?

[@mikeramsey5391]

We have the 3/4 ton and we pull a 5500# camper and hwy speed of 70 we pull 9.6mpg at 1800 rpm in tenth and it drops to 8th on small inclines

[@andyalaniz5843]

Great video. I just bought a flagstaff trailer and I have got to say this is my favorite trailer for quality we love it so far. I pull mine with a 6.7 powerstroke because I use to have a bigger trailer. What is your other channel?

[@Foxboss9]

Awesome! Other channel Rvdaydream 👍

[@davidhillbrand2302]

Great review of towing in the real world with the 7.3. Would love to see you pull at altitude - come to Colorado.

[@davidchamness3627]

I have a 2020 F250 7.3/3.55 and pulled a 7,000# bumper pull up to Cloudcroft, NM at just under 9000ft elevation. It did not break a sweat.

[@campingalan]

I'd be interested to see it in CO too. Currently trying to decide between the 6.2 and the 7.3 to tow a travel trailer out here in CO. I'm tending towards the 10 yr old 6.2 with 4.30 gearing to save $$. I'm fine with taking an extra 30-45 seconds to climb Monarch pass as compared to a 7.3 or the diesel.

[@kyleweber1543]

@@campingalan that's where I'm at but with a boat, easier financially to do 6.2 with upper trim and sub 100k miles instead of the new 7.3

[@campingalan]

@@kyleweber1543 That makes sense! Re-reading my post, I meant the 10 yr old design of the 6.2; not a 10 yr old truck with the 6.2l. I towed a 28ft enclosed car hauler trailer through the CO mountains with a rental 6.2l; it did fine (not as well as the diesel ram3500 I used to have; but still fine).

[@Inspironator]

Sounds like there's lots of features, but at what cost? I pulled 40,000 lbs gross up the mountain leaving Albequerque at 75 mph with no downshift from overdrive my 99.5 F250 7.3 DIESEL and it still runs great with 320k mi. The engine breaking in the 2016 and up trucks are awesome. You'll be lucky to get maybe 200k mi. out of that engine, but, you'll save a little on oil changes. Diesels have been known to làst longer than gas engines. You'll learn to like that transmission breaking on your truck, especially with loads twice as heavy as that 8000 lb trailer -- which I think is really light for a 30 footer. Thanks for the update on the 2020 gasser. Keep posting as you get more and more miles.

[@Foxboss9]

Again, different characteristics for completely different engines. It would be like saying a 1.8 L Toyota engine doesn't have to Rev near as High compared to the 1.8 L Mazda rotary engine. Two different schools of thought. It doesn't make one better than the other. As far as 200,000 miles with the 7.3 gas, I have a feeling they're going to do better then most considering it's a forged crankshaft , much better cooling than any previous V8, cast iron block with extensive reinforcement webbing, a forged crankshaft, and 6 bolt mains. It's going to take a lot for that engine to come up short considering my old 460 had over 160000 and it performed perfectly. Even if I only get let's say 150000 out of this new gas engine, you can buy a new long block crate engine from throttle body to oil pan for roughly $7,400! Still shy of the $9,000 premium I would have had to pay to get into the diesel. Like I said plenty of times prior and even in this video, people have got to learn to buy a truck that matches their needs or slightly exceeds. Diesel used to be the way to go on even some of the lightest Towing and for everyday use but to buy a new one, and pay the kind of money that they're asking for oh, and the have to deal with the shortcomings of the EGR, the exhaust scrubbers, the def for the life of the factory warranty before you can yank it all off and make the truck perform the way it should or I should say the way they used to. There's a reason that the gas engine Market is booming and the manufacturers are pushing them. But, like I said, Towing over 10000 pounds more than 4000 miles a year. I would definitely look at a diesel. Even with all the emissions crap, and the higher fuel prices on average, and the higher oil change cost, and the higher initial purchase price. So don't be surprised that maybe one day on this channel will be talkin about a new diesel truck!

[@davidalphin6626]

Inspironator pulling 40K in an F250 and not dropping gears. LOL

[@Inspironator]

@@davidalphin6626 Yes, the venerable International 7.3 ultra-reliable million miles proven thought time and breadth, THE ultimate workhorse. Hahahahaha

[@1velocity]

@@Foxboss9 My buddy has a shop and is replacing a 6.7 powerstroke in a 2012 landscape truck with around 100k on it. He is putting a complete 6.7 in for 17k . The engine alone was 14k his cost. He got it complete because to buy all of the fuel components that go on top cost a good bit more than the extra 5k.

[@amandadavis9726]

@@davidalphin6626 I know,...right?

[@royj9241]

What's your mpg difference from 6.2 to 7.3

[@wvcorvetteman]

Can you do a video about gas mileage unloaded in daily life? Also can you compare gas mileage with the 6.2 I don't tow a lot so this is important. We do tow a cabin cruiser 4 months per year. Thanks!

[@atvtinker01]

I have the F350 with the 3.73 gears and I average about 17 mpg with easy driving. Even up to 65 mph I get 17 mpg. Once I get to about 70 mph it drops to 16 mpg average. Now you've got to take in consideration I live in Louisiana where is relatively flat most of the times.

[@brandiboehme8444]

Have you ever overheated going up hills

[@gregpoole4364]

With the 10 speed, I wonder if with the 4.30 gears if your hauling gear would move up to 7th or 8th vs 6th based on the ratios. However noticed when you shifted to 10th at 70mph you were around 1600rpm or so? That's definitely a benefit to the 3.73 with unloaded and light loads in the MPG department.

[@Foxboss9]

I don't know how much of a benefit is because once you get over 70 miles an hour you're pushing so much air. Plus that 10th gear ratio is such a small fraction that the difference between 430 and 373 is very miniscule. And I'm towing mainly so it really doesn't show

[@mark98070]

3.73 locking? Non limited slip?

[@richardmoss8757]

Good common sense video

[@BrianAz]

I was hoping that technology would somehow help out with that gas mileage. I was going to buy the diesel, but after seeing some KZbin vids talking about maint costs and issues with the new DEF diesels might mean its time for my first gasser since 2001. Thanks

[@leardi58]

What did you end up going with

[@BrianAz]

@@leardi58 I decided on the 7.3 gasser. The 2022 Lariat which was a little more “affordable” to deck out with options since I did not have to pay the $9000 upgrade for the diesel.

[@8overlanding23]

Foxboss, I really love your videos. I just got a new TT, it's 33ft and load it up to about 9K lbs. I tow with an Excursion v10 but I'm loving on your 7.3 Godzilla truck. Im thinking of upgrading to a truck with the 6.2 with a 4.3 rear diff and it's good to know your happy with the 6.2 because I dont want to spend extra on the 7.3 coz we dont tow as much per year

[@Foxboss9]

If you want to go to a 2020 or newer, you can get a f350 with a 6.2 with 4:30 gear and a 10 speed trans... That would be cool

[@8overlanding23]

@@Foxboss9 Thank you!

[@ricochetey]

@@8overlanding23My bud had the 6.2 in his old truck and it was a turd. I would defintaly shoot for the 7.3

[@TheMCD1989]

@@ricochetey It's got no power down low towing, but I think most if that is the 6 speed. The gears are too far apart for that engine because it wants to rev. I would be willing to bet that that 6.2 with the 10 speed would be a great setup, the gears are much closer together and should keep that engine where it wants to be.

[@mattsbrute]

Pause the video at the first sight of the dash and take note of the fuel needle placement. Slide the bar over till the last frame at the end. The needle noticeably moved in 13 minutes.

[@zachsinshoreadventures8711]

Looking into purchasing the 2020 f250 7.3 to tow our 5900lb RV. Would you believe this truck is overkill for that size trailer and stick with the 1/2 ton?

[@Foxboss9]

If you're towing under 6000 lb and you're only doing it a couple thousand miles a year. Then you may want to stick with the F-150 because you'll be driving something that gets a lot better gas mileage the other 90% of the time you're driving it. The F-250 would be absolute pleasure the toe with especially that little of weight however when you're not Towing you would be cursing it all the time because of the gas mileage and rougher ride.

[@zachsinshoreadventures8711]

Foxboss9 wel I have a 6 inch lift with 35s on my current F150 so my gas mileage sucks already..... but just making sure my F150 won’t have issues towing long distance trips.

[@fedguy9182]

If the 5900lb is GVWR of trailer stick with F150. If trailer GVWR is around 7500 go F250 as the half ton payload will run out quick and you will be on the line with the axle wt rating too. Better to have more truck towing.

[@JC-jc2lo]

Could you give us an update on the truck?

[@truepyro28]

Any updates since this was a year ago?

[@yourcampingbuddy4646]

Do you use any WDH or sway control?

[@Foxboss9]

Absolutely, we have a pro Pride hitch. Check out our Channel rvdaydream

[@resharddurdley6987]

2007 6.0 powerstroke F350 4x4 srw. Bulletproofed. 4:10 gears. I pull a 12k pound unloaded (18k gvwr, but mostly around 15k pounds) Recreation by Design triple axle travel trailer . I would never pull anything over 10k with a gas engine. 7.3 gas is an awesome truck, world's better than f150 when towing 8-10k pounds. Anything heavier, especially over 10k pounds, 6.7 powerstroke is the answer, especially when your in the mountains.

[@nicolathonathan770]

Going a few mph slower up a hill isn’t the end of the world. Plus this 7.3 gasser has more hp and tq than the 1st gen 7.3 PSD. No one ever complained the old 7.3 PSD is underpowered. Modern gas motors are much better, especially after you have to put urine in your diesel trucks.

[@resharddurdley6987]

@@nicolathonathan770 I agree to an extent. I like the 7.3 gas, its a brilliant idea by Ford to capture those who don't need or want expense of a diesel but stills allow you to pull heavier loads than a f150. I just don't get why people want to pull a 10k-14k trailer with a light weight f150, its dangerous. A 10k pound trailer is heavy, its a good size weight for a truck . I just watched a video on a 2021 rockwood signature 8336bh...11,320 gvwr!!! 9700lb empty! I never want to put that behind a f150 or any half ton truck....people don't think about going up mountains or coming down them!!

[@nicolathonathan770]

@@resharddurdley6987 My camper is 3500lbs GVWR but I still chose a 3/4 ton for the payload. I personally think 1/2 ton towing capacity for high wall trailers should stop at 6000 lbs. Getting a diesel truck would be an endless nightmare for people like me, who only use the truck to tow campers at most 10 times or 2000 miles a year. It’s gonna be hard to keep the diesel fuel and DEF clean and it’s only gonna be the matter of time the engine chock itself and needs big $$$ repair. I don’t see myself ever gonna own a diesel truck. By the time I retire and do RVing full time, we all gonna drive electric trucks with 3000 ft lb instant torque.

[@billiebuckamer8189]

@@resharddurdley6987 Because Ford says you can. I wouldn't either. ;)

[@wakeupamerica2024]

I tow 12k lbs with my 95 F350 460, 5spd 4.10 gears Banks headers. It will tow it faster than a 7.3 powerstroke of the same year and the 460 is known for going over 200k miles. I have a 2005 F350 with a 6.0 completely bulletproofed and a 2022 F350 7.3 both rated to tow the same and I love the 7.3 gas compared to the 6.0.

[@greghanley6541]

Great video!! Yeah. I don’t think even with 10k and 4K miles a year justifies getting a diesel. The cost alone would push you to 12 to 15 years to pay it back. And the 7.3l has plenty of power with the 3.73. It has a 16k payload for towing. Either way great video!

[@greghanley6541]

Robert Condon yeah I’m planning on getting around 15500 or 16k gvwr 5th wheel so I should be good. There was a video where TFL was doing a test on a goose neck and it pulled 22k like butter. Same engin same axle

[@jeffs2809]

The initial cost of the diesel is offset by it’s resale value. Pay more up front, the truck is worth more when you sell it. You could look at the difference of the xl & lariat & platinum trim levels....you’ll never recoup the cost of the extra trim level until you resell or trade it. After 20+ years of owning diesel trucks, I’ll likely go to gas for my next one. I’m definitely not liking the idea of going from ~19mpg to 12 or less, but there are just too many potential problems with the newer diesels.

[@brianjames3105]

Ordered my 2022 F350 Godzilla today. Replacing my 2019 F250 6.2. I pull a wildwood 30KQBSS 7042lbs dry.

[@ebhauser]

Curious to know if you’ve received your truck yet…if so when? I have one on order an trying to get an idea for my wait time.

[@orangepowerguy]

What kind of MPG are you getting for non-towing city driving?

[@Foxboss9]

Not taking it easy, 12. Actually making an effort to save gas 14

[@pavin8757]

i get about 12-13 not taking it easy as well, 3.73 gears

[@intensepisgahbiker]

I get the same as HalfShell with same 3.55 gear.

[@charlesosberg8678]

Great video and great truck!! Have a 2004 F350srw,love the truck and I've put a ton of money into the engine because I trusted the wrong people to do the work (my fault). I'm pretty sure that we are almost neighbors because I've seen places in your videos that are close by. Hope you well in getting to travel and see the country.

[@zackzander425]

I've got a Power Stroke right now. How do you think this truck would handle 5,000 - 15,000lbs a few times per week? I've got two dump trailer that I use for my business. Otherwise I will just be hauling in the bed. I want to option out a F-350 SRW, extended cab, long-bed, 4x4 with 3.73s. I'm so tired of the bs that modern diesels offer me; common rail injection, DPF, EGR, DEF, ULSD, etc. The maintenance never bothered me with diesels but the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore. I need reliability.

[@Foxboss9]

We are currently full time on the road living in our RV. We are at 8,000 pounds with the RV fully loaded and the truck and trailer combined is 17000 lb as I have a lot of tools and stuff in the back of my truck because again we have sold our house and we're traveling full time. Knowing now for sure what the truck feels like under various conditions pulling 8000 pounds in having weight in the back of it also, I would feel comfortable Towing 10000 miles a year a 12,000 lb 5th wheel. So 5,000 to 15000 a few times per week shouldn't be much of an issue. Definitely get the 4:30 gears though. This 10 speed, even with 3:73 gears, stays in 9th gear a lot so you won't be over revving with 4:30 by no means. Gas mileage over the last 4800 miles has averaged 8.5 miles per gallon Towing. And I'm not easy on it

[@Kim-ek2mt]

Does the 7.3 require premium fuel

[@Foxboss9]

No it does not. And if you get a tuner you can actually run it on ethanol

[@ZampostOk]

What’s the MPG without towing?

[@deepanshumalhotra9156]

15.5 hit 16 once on eco, towing a versa 300 miles avg 14.5

[@deepanshumalhotra9156]

Towing 7500 camper about 8 mpg

[@ernestoluzan]

What rear gear do you have?

[@Foxboss9]

3:73

[@ernestoluzan]

Foxboss9 I like your reviews of this truck. I need a real word review of the same truck with the 4.30 gear to see if the upgrade is worth it.

[@ernestoluzan]

Foxboss9 Also can you tell me what transmission temps you’re running when pulling a loaded camper?

[@machaf]

Glad I got the 6.7L diesel, it easily accelerates to pass the gutless gassers on 6% grades while towing 31 footer in the mountains (Mullan pass, 4th of July pass). Once you go black you never go back. The new Ford 6.7L and 10 speed trans is a DREAM while towing the mountains.

[@Foxboss9]

Wanna race? Lol. I just beat a older 6.4 powerchoke on a double merge on ramp..... He was outfitted with a utility bed loaded with tools and ladders. I was 18,000 lbs total rolling weight pulling our 30' TT.... My fillup was @ 1.94 a gallon and my 10,000 mile oil change cost $39.00.. I've got over 4000lb payload and pocketed an extra $8000 for vacation..... There are only so many hills to climb, 80 percent of America's roads are flat🤣

[@amandadavis9726]

@@Foxboss9 the more videos that I see about the 7.3L,...the more it makes me consider NOT staying with a diesel on my next purchase. But that’s all good, because I have a year or two before I pull the trigger.

[@billiebuckamer8189]

@@jobe1911 That's crazy when a full dress 7.3 crate engine is $7500.

[@lexustech48]

That 7.3 sounds more like a muscle car engine than a truck engine. I thought I wanted a Diesel, and truth be told, the current 6.7 is a great engine. But I dont tow often, and we wont need a huge camper trailer. I was a longbed guy for along time, but I like the way the current CCSB's look. I just hate to lose that 48 gallon tank. But I do want to offroad this truck too.. decisions decisions.

[@robertj8451]

tremor?

[@Skitter302]

so the new 7.3 gets the same mpg as your old 7.5?

[@Foxboss9]

Yeah, but the RV that I'm pulling is taller, longer, and heavier then what the 460 had to deal with.

[@Skitter302]

Foxboss9 Makes me feel better about putting money into my 460 rebuild.

[@Foxboss9]

@@Skitter302 I would save a rebuilt 460 conservatively and spend all the money you can trying to adapt a 10-speed transmission to it. Huge difference. Extremely hear difference having that 4 Speed

[@Skitter302]

@@Foxboss9 I can do ya one better, skip the adapter plate. Keep the E4OD and pair it with a gear vendors under/overdrive. Just like that you have an 8 speed Auto.

[@amandadavis9726]

@@Skitter302 not really. You’ll have to manually shift your gear vendor back and forth to get “8 gears.” It’s not even worth it, to be honest. A friend of mine had one on his 7.3L PS Excursion. The biggest difference I saw was the lower rpms when on the road and in overdrive. I know it’s been a very long time since I drove it,...but if my memory serves me correctly, you had to release pressure on the drivetrain, in order for it shift, which required backing off the throttle. If I’m wrong, feel free to correct me on it.

[@jamesorr2404]

I Special Ordered a 2021 Super Duty 250 on 10/28/20 and just picked it up 1/5/21 I had it 10 Days and had Problems with it Fuel Pump or Module is bad with 729 miles on it!! Problem I'm having here in California is the Dealer's Service Department have >>NEVER

[@Foxboss9]

Run away from that dealer as fast as you can. Not only have beef engines available in the Super Duties but all the gas motorhomes that you buy brand new at the dealer have them in it also. They sound very incompetent

[@moa_moto135]

How’s the truck holding up. I heard that these new 7.3 are having some spark plug problems Should I just get the 6.4 Hemi instead

[@Foxboss9]

Lol.... that's funny.

[@cesarpalmos8235]

Spark plug WIRE issue...and no..it was a bad batch from the manufacturer that Ford got them from....I work at Ford.

[@kgill5]

Yeah, every new machine will have some bugs in it. Spark plug wires are an easy and inexpensive fix. Ford has a built a great engine and paired it with a solid transmission. Enjoy!

[@tumbleweedking5668]

@HalfShell Not by much, with the 8 speed and 4:10 gears their will be little difference except for the price.

[@3sticksoutdoors]

@HalfShell That was an incredible shot in the foot on Ram's part. Poor gear selection and untuned transmission that performed pretty... crapily, if that's a word). But at least it beat the Chevy (with 2,000 lbs less, haha).

[@engineeringVirtue]

Been thinking of getting my own CCLB f350 7.3 for 9-12k lbs TT... just uncertain if I want dually and/or 4.3 vs 3.77 axle ratio.

[@mikegoogleuser509]

Duallies are nice, but more than needed for your application. Extra tires, less mpg, harder for parking, and usually higher vehicle registration costs.

[@troydegroote2165]

Why did you get rid of the 2019 6.2? I don't have time right now to watch the video?

[@Foxboss9]

I did prior vids covering this... Basically I wanted a bigger tank and a basic engine design with commercial grade parts

[@BigBodyRacing]

How much was the camper

[@Foxboss9]

26,900

[@Aggieland79]

Can you give us an update on the truck please?

[@Foxboss9]

Well we're on the road traveling full time. So I haven't talked about the truck very much but you can check out our adventures on our other channel rvdaydream. I might be giving an update on the truck and its overall performance. So far it's been stellar

[@Aggieland79]

@@Foxboss9 Looking forward to it as I'm looking real hard at purchasing the 7.3 gas.

[@Foxboss9]

@@Aggieland79 Well, don't discount that 6.2 liter. With everybody wanting the 7.3 I am sure that that 6.2 liter is probably bargained price and it was a good vehicle especially if you get with 430 gears and here to the trick in 2020 and 2021 you could get an F350 with a 6.2 and option in 430 gears and get a 10 speed transmission also.

[@davidkendall6801]

I dislike tow haul mode and shift manually. It's easier on the engine and transmission and I get better gas mileage manually.

[@oeflinger]

David Kendall never... those new transmissions have like this Ford-GM 10R80 or 10R140s are hightly adaptive and shift better and more efficient than any driver could... i know we are all guys thinking we are the best drivers in the world but that’s just subjective feelings... objective a modern automatic gearbox will outsmart you...

[@78ginop]

What happened to the 6.2?

[@78ginop]

@wnc817 I know. I was asking him what happened to his 6.2

[@j.l.salayao8055]

@@78ginop the 6.2 had a rebirth and is now the 7.3.

[@rontopping2048]

Nothing 6.2 is standard. 7.3 is optional in f 250 & 350 . Standard in 450 , 550 , 600

[@OkieProductions]

drive by wire has nothing to do with the uphill shift. The load of the engine and the g- force sensor sensor in the truck, make the decisions when shifting. It knows your on a hill. so it saves the transmission from shifting itself to death, and keeps the engine in its peak torque range. I wish chevy and ram would learn from Ford. Fords tow programming is far beyond the others.

[@Foxboss9]

The downshift happens when you're going downhill obviously but you can also change the gearing with tapping the brake. When I meant to refer to is that the drive-by-wire holds the throttle open at the top of an acceleration run before it has a chance to shift to the next gear. So, what's a I run first and second gear out all the way and three quarters of the way through 3rd gear I decide to let off of the pedal the RPMs stay through the roof until the truck realizes that there is no input at the pedal and that it needs to shift to the next 2 or 4 gears higher in the range. That is definitely a drive-by-wire issue as the mechanical linkage that is normally Associated between the throttle and the transmission is no longer there to tell the transmission what the throttle is doing.

[@brandiboehme8444]

Have you ever got 13 out of it

[@Tom-ds5uk]

Godzilla is my top choice, not decided f250 or f350 for having a camper in future.

[@armedmariner]

Do you wish you got 4:10 gears vs 3:73?

[@SteveH98264]

With a F250 the only axle ratios available (with the 7.3) are 3.55 & 4.30, with a SRW F350 it's either 3.73 or 4.30. Because I don't want to spend as much time in the lower transmission gears I'd opt for 4.30. Unless you get the Tremor package (have yet to find a gas powered one here in Phoenix) you'll almost certainly have to order a truck to get 4.30 gears.

[@atvtinker01]

@@SteveH98264 you can get the F250 with the 3.73, but you have to order it. Here in Louisiana you have to order the F350 with the 3.73 otherwise it comes standard with the 4.30.

[@SteveH98264]

@@atvtinker01 Might want to check again. According to Ford the F250 is available with 3.55s & 4.30s. The F350 gets 3.73s & 4.30s.

[@atvtinker01]

@@SteveH98264 I guess they changed it, because it was an option back in December, but I don't know why. Why would the F350 7.3l and 10 speed be any different than the F250 that you couldn't order the same rear end ratio in both? I know they have different rear ends, because mine is a Dana 60 style, but they will let you order it for the 6.2l? That doesn't make sense.

[@SteveH98264]

@@atvtinker01 Don't know where you got you information, but 3.73 gears were/are not available in either a 2020 or 21 F250 with the 7.3. Ford decided to make an actual difference between the F250 & the F350 SRW trucks. Take the time to find the 2020 or 21 Ford RV & Towing guide. Personally I wouldn't have a 7.3 unless it had 4.3 gears. The 10-speed had 3 overdrive ratios so rpm will not be a problem.

[@rcud1]

I wasn't sure what your actual gas mileage was, kept talking about your old truck and this truck so not sure what was being referenced. If its only getting 7-8 mpg towing then better off buying a used Ford V10.

[@Foxboss9]

This engine far outperforms the V10. Don't get upset, the V10 was a great engine but the build quality on this one is far superior. Just like days of old, when the 460 was replaced with the V10 everybody was scrambling to get the last of the 460 trucks. But, if you go try to buy a brand-new gas motorhome you're going to find that the V10 is gone from the brand new models and has been replaced by this same engine in this 2020 Super Duty. Towing is subjectable, 460, V10 or this 7.3 gas they are all the same when it comes to Towing as far as gas mileage

[@Spad68]

So you spend money on fuel instead of breaks .

[@Foxboss9]

No, you spend money on safety features.

[@JohnDiMartino]

How do you figure ? The engine rpms are being held up by the transmission,all fuel is turned off the engines is just an air pump when it’s revving down hill. He admitted his foot was 8n it all the way and he was getting 7.5 that’s not bad for a lead foot towing 8000

[@alexs3187]

The diesel is only worth it if you NEED the extra capability. The diesel is rated to tow more. I pulled a 10,000 lb enclosed trailer with my old 2019 Duramax and still got under 9mpg on the highway. Granted, I also have a lead foot. Maybe you can get 10-12 if you drive like a grandpa. The difference really isn’t that big. Save the $9k.

[@davidkendall6801]

I get 9.0+ towing a 5th wheel with 6.2.

[@Foxboss9]

Wanna race... Lol

[@beerbelly6670]

Pick up some extra spark plug wires.

[@Foxboss9]

I think that info is a bit of a panic impulse.... There aren't very many having issues

[@beerbelly6670]

Foxboss9 might want to read up on it. Ford already admitted there is a manufacturing problem with the company making them. Better safe then sorry.

[@richardkoehler9917]

Do not go ten thousand miles on oil changes you will plug up that engine .Engineering are not paying for your truck and repairs. I would say no more then four thousand in between oil changes . That's why I don't buy used truck and vehicles because of poor maintenance Yes the oils are better than back twenty years ago but you still have contamination of the oil in your engine while your diving it . I have four Fords and two of them have over one hundred sixty thousand miles on them and when you look at the top of the head threw the oil fill they look brand new with all them miles. No sludge and no discoloration on the cams and rockers and that living where there are cold snowy winters .

[@Foxboss9]

You got to figure that Ford is offering a hundred thousand mile powertrain warranty that's a lot of miles the only do 5 oil changes. Ford's responsible for that engine staying running. Talk about old school, sludge in the heads? That hasn't happened since the early 90s. All the new engines run a little hotter and have much better oil flow and of course the oils are made so much better. Not only that but the engines are at tighter tolerances so you have less Blow by contamination and the fuel delivery systems are so much more precise so you have less ring wash going on. Now, with that said I wouldn't go over 5,000 miles personally. And I run full synthetic lot semi blend.

[@gittyupalice96]

I can tell you from driving Cummins 6.7's six days a week for years, you do not want a diesel unless your towing a fifteen thousand pound trailer or larger. The reason being is the D.E.F. system and D.P.F. system, for those of you that don't know the (D.P.F. is a filter inside of the exhaust system.. This filter consistently clogs up so the auto-makers way of un-clogging it is that when the exhaust reaches a very, VERY high temperature it dumps fuel into the exhaust via a 7th fuel injector that is located in the exhaust pipe upstream of the D.P.F.) The issue is you need to basically run these engines flat out, pedal to the floor on a daily basis, was the only way that I could keep the system clean.. and in total truck and load combined was about 34,000 lbs, so wide open throttle on a Cummins at 34,000 lbs, means your accelerating like a spanked 90's corolla.. Your just barely keeping up with traffic really. But thats my point, if you don't have a SUPER heavy trailer, you can't go wide open throttle on these trucks and the filters will clog and it will cost thousands, over and over and over and over til you give up and sell it. Go with the gas engine, trust me. All my ford friends say the same exact thing, cummins or powerstroke it doesn't matter.

[@j.l.salayao8055]

What year is your ram Cummins and how do you use it regularly??? Our current 17 ford super duty diesel I purchased new in November of 2017 and only been to the dealer twice for alignment and steering stabilizer. Truck is stock no modifications done and just routine maintenance that i perfom myself...daily driver and I tow a 33 feet travel trailer that weighs 9,000 to 10,000 lbs. at least twice a month. So far so good and I hope it stays that way since I'm planning on keeping it for the next 15-20 years. Probably I'm lucky or this trucks just need to be work and will remain dependable as I have seen owners with high mileage diesel with no major issues as they use it for hauling heavy loads constantly...

[@winnie2498]

Hey friend This is Winnie. Would you like to make a review video of Leather Seat Covers? Please feel free to contact me.

[@lifeisgood141]

I rather mute the exhaust sound if I could, so I can carry a conversation without raising my voice or turn up the music volume.

[@Foxboss9]

Agreed... besides the 2019 F250 Super Duty that had the 6.2 that we traded in, this truck is one of the quietest trucks I found in the last 20 years. I usually mess with the exhaust but I'm really enjoying the full system and how quiet It is while Towing.

[@rebeccashipley255]

Don't try towing a 30 Foot TT in the wind!! The front is to LIGHT!! it will wag the Tail!! I towed one from Bakersfield Ca to Ft Smith Ar >>>>>NEVER Again>>>Now Driving a Ram 2500 with the Cummins 75 MPH all the way back to Cali >>> NO F---ing Problems with 40 to 50 wind Gust (:

[@brandiboehme8444]

If you don’t shut off your overdrive you burn up your transmission

[@jesseurane5620]

Do not go 10k in between oil changes if you want your truck long term- the factory intervals are a joke

[@amandadavis9726]

I wouldn’t go that far on oil change intervals. For a pickup, I keep mine at 5k miles.

[@BobTheBreaker9]

i heard these 7.3 have already gotten a bad rep

[@jonstefanko7854]

not many good videos out on the new 7.3 gas engine or transmission. looks to be garbage and typical for broblems of blowing engines and transmissions with no miles on them. sad. lame fords