“Designs are hampered by those with no imagination. Thankfully most are my age and are either dead or retired.” Thankfully we still have YOU to show us the great videos!!!
@buzzofftoxicblog7913 жыл бұрын
🤣 some of the old engineers where brilliant some where lazy and made rubbish 🗑💚🌎🤣
@Gionzilla3 жыл бұрын
@Road 'N Turf I was thinking exactly the same thing.
@RojCowles3 жыл бұрын
Yup that comment made me chuckle.
@gaggvack3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Great line!
@rb80493 жыл бұрын
The advantage of old farts croaking off. Humans progress through older generations dying off.
@Noi5ee3 жыл бұрын
" I got a good memory, its just short" I'm gonna steal that one.
@PinchOfLuck3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. This one was epic. :D
@worekarolis3 жыл бұрын
stealing something that you won't remember not an easy task :D
@peterlittlejohn89333 жыл бұрын
Someone should put that on a tee shirt. :D
@RobinHood-lz2wj3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I never tire of your explanation of details. You’ll never get a complaint from me about an analysis being too long.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@psdaengr9113 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive Your analyses demonstrate the difference between complaining and critical thinking.
@jamesengland74613 жыл бұрын
Same.
@jezzaRTW3 жыл бұрын
Same
@mgmacius3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive I’m happy to go through ten times more detail.
@samson68203 жыл бұрын
and my day just got better seeing this was up.
@eesti12343 жыл бұрын
He looks like he does not know that Volvo was also an aircraft manufacturer in the past (the surprise about welding).
@markplott48203 жыл бұрын
Just throw Polestar 2 in the trash bin.
@mamadouaziza25363 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Why? It seems to be an above average engineered car. The money is spent on the battery and software. Also, the less complicated a car is, the easier it is to fix.. No one wants a car that is over engineered.
@markplott48203 жыл бұрын
@@mamadouaziza2536 - the POLESTAR 2 is an OVERWEIGHT and OVERLY Complex vehicle , built from a GAS car platform. in Comparison TESLA has FEWER parts , fewer Fuses and Fewer ECU than POLESTAR . TESLA is going to TOTAL Underbody casting and a Structural battery pack. saves 900 Robots and processes.
@mamadouaziza25363 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Hmm, ok. BMW's i3 is a lightweight car constructed with carbon fibre, plastic and uses fewer parts than a Tesla...
@timmylassie67633 жыл бұрын
"dead or retired".... love it - i am currently the second class avoiding the first class... keep up the awesome videos...
@Pseudoku_RL3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I'm in awe that I can watch videos like these whenever I want for free. Crazy
@pellebrannvall65213 жыл бұрын
The knowledge Sandy's sharing is awsome, and for free? Fuck yeah
@qwertyqwertysson97363 жыл бұрын
A grumpy granpa talking about suspension should be THE most boring thing in the world, so ... Why is it so darn fun to watch😁 Cant wait for next episode👍👍
@bluecruiser37903 жыл бұрын
Thank god for the blue tape!! Covered loads of ground this episode and made it much easier on Sandys excellent short memory. Well done blue tape person.
@Pikminiman3 жыл бұрын
+
@gilmacarico3 жыл бұрын
On a roll! Your information for video minute is sky rocketing! Another great video, congrats, keep them coming...
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@PinchOfLuck3 жыл бұрын
Sandy. I love your fatherly attitude towards your viewers. You make me think of my late uncle. He had your attitude, had mustache like you and an honest opinion he loved to share with others no matter what it was. Keep on making them videos, they brighten my day.
@markjames23383 жыл бұрын
"I've got a good memory, it's just... What were we talking about?" Haha
@BnORailFan3 жыл бұрын
That's what Mandy Sunro said.
@thomasfsan3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of friction stir welding! Thank you mr. Munro!
@ojyk3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Even better now with the blue tape. Please don't ever stop Sandy.
@vangvon2215 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the knowledge and insights that you shared in the 'Under the Hood' and 'Hoisted' series, I learned a lot! And those kind of technical details are so satisfying and they are so much missing from the majority of car reviewers
@pauldesi3 жыл бұрын
Another lunch time spent learning and appreciating the lost art of story telling!
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@AWDRIFTO3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Sandy! I find these videos to be so much more helpful than the fluff I watch from the influencer crowd.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@stevewilliams12903 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the brutal honesty of Sandy!
@userscott3 жыл бұрын
This is pure Sandy, praise to everybody who deserves it and a real understanding of the actual issues that can challenge this sector. Seeing the young engineers holding the torch with taking this technoology forwards and receiving the praise where it's due is excellent. Perfect in every way - well done team Munro.
@dr-k16673 жыл бұрын
I hope someone at the premier engineering schools around the world are making this channel a MUST SUBSCRIBE and WATCH for their students AND professors. You are never to old or to young to grow and change. These ideas and ideology Sandy spits are are gold!
@Boomtendo4tw3 жыл бұрын
it’s so interesting seeing all the different manufacturing techniques and the technology that goes into every little part
@SampoSaarela3 жыл бұрын
Sandy, I don't know if you will ever see this but couple of things as a long time Volvo owner. The riveted lower ball joint came in with S40 / V50 in 2005. It is common part with some other cars, if I recall correctly it was Ford Mondeo. But on the other car it is bolted, so in many cases if you need to change it - you need to buy the part from the "cousin". The door handles you spoke last time. Yeah, freezing rain is a thing in Sweden and there is little to no that can be done without the handles. Also the really small wing mirrors have kind of always been a Volvo thing but that become really pronounced again in the S40 / V50 from 2005 onwards. They are even smaller than the mirrors in this one.
@jackgreenstalk7773 жыл бұрын
sandy mentioned most people making bad decisions or ones just for sake of legacy parts are his age and retired or dead. It makes me wonder how does sandy stay on the cutting edge so well when many of his peers (at least age wise) are stuck in old technology? I find it really impressive, I was actually shocked when I heard Sandys actual age! He moves around and works/speaks at a much higher level then so many others at his age, in this industry or otherwise. speaks to loving what you do I guess, sandy still has that excited energy when he sees stuff he is passionate about. inspiring for sure! Great work
@mgmacius3 жыл бұрын
I had uncle like him. The most amazing guy I ever met. Oh Lord how I loved him as a kid! He was so obsessed with his passions that he had no time left to grow old. And then he got Alzheimer’s and it was such a horrible thing to watch. But he was still himself. Even at the end his old self kept coming back. Like a miracle- the poor man was sitting there, completely absent. And then all of sudden he joined the conversation in the middle of it, said something totally on topic, had a little argument and switched off back again... I think it’s that constant being in the topic you love that keeps you so fresh. You never stop, so the age can’t keep up?
@psdaengr9113 жыл бұрын
People in general don't understand how much praise for their efforts means to engineers. Praise from someone like Sandy is better than a raise or a promotion. Few people realize how hard it is to juggle resources within a budget and do a better engineering design than your predecessors. It's far harder to work with your mind than your hands and there's less evidence to prove how much went into the project. That's true of most new STEM work. When you do a great job, people look at it and think that the choices you made would have been obvious to anyone. All they care about is how pretty it looks and what they have to pay.
@RojCowles3 жыл бұрын
You know I was wondering after Sandy's (mostly) glowing inspection of the Mach-E just how many Ford engineers from that team had Munro quotes from those videos printed out and stuck up on internal message boards or if management shared the YT links to make sure they got to see them.
@nexusebtuoy2 жыл бұрын
A brown nose LOLOL
@JJSmith11003 жыл бұрын
I love explaining things about cars to people, just a it is just very hard to find someone that wants to listen. Sandy found the right place to explain to people that want to hear.
@fannibal3 жыл бұрын
Way over my head but I still love the review! The world needs more technically detailed information. Stuff has been dumbed down for too long.
@garmack123 жыл бұрын
I suspect it's a bit like the first-generation jet airliners and bombers like 707 and B-52 (especially after the Comet and B-47 accidents). The engineers decided that they didn't quite understand the forces they were dealing with so they way overbuilt everything. Right now I suspect the manufacturers are more concerned about gaining market share and maintaining a reputation in this still relatively developed market. As these companies get better understanding of the most common failure modes on electric vehicles they will commence with cost reduction in ways that they believe will not increase failure rates signifigantly. But right now it is probably too much risk for them to try to save a few dollars on each car produced.
@nathanielgritzman69613 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sandy, as ever, priceless tidbits being flung around.
@Steph13 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sandy & team
@LaurentVitalis3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty happy with my purchase. Thanks.
@DG-uv3zw3 жыл бұрын
Fantastically built car.. Very impressive.
@morrisg3 жыл бұрын
Poor Saab. They got bought by GM and run into the ground. Volvo got bought by Geely and now they get to engineer the Polestar 2. Nice to see some good engineering getting implemented!
@one_flew_over_the_cuckoos_nest3 жыл бұрын
GM also almost killed Opel, glad to see they are now part of Stellantis!
@seybertooth92823 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for all the China hate that the sheep are spewing all over the internet, it's actually American car brands that are the death-mark of cars. Same with Opel, run into the ground by GM then rescued by PSA at the last moment.
@tobias_dahlberg2 жыл бұрын
Yep! And Volvo was owned by Ford for a considerable time as well, and while it did not end up as badly as for Saab, the guys at Volvo weren't very happy about Ford:s management practises... Geely is a lot more hands-off, basically "We'll get you a bunch of cash, you do your thing!" - and it's working out very well.
@vtcampbell3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the duration of this video. Keep them coming Sandy, your videos are amazing!
@levysrugo68613 жыл бұрын
New video format is great. Much more information dense. Keep them coming!
@jamdoodles3 жыл бұрын
So much effort goes into explaining all this stuff & I really appreciate it very much.
@thepiperofsimms99743 жыл бұрын
Another great one from Sandy ! Thank you Munro & Associates.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@Drewinvan3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual Sandy...love learning about the fine details in cars. Keep up the great work! Warm regards from Vancouver Canada.
@tumbleweed19763 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sandy and Team. Another educational program 🎈
@jeremypmerrill3 жыл бұрын
Sandy's expertise really shines in this sort of video. Sometimes I think he's nuts when he says things like hydrogen fuel cells are going to be a thing, but when it comes to design and manufacturing of cars he's a god.
@Yooshroom3 жыл бұрын
Sandy nails it again! What a man!
@tombrenemanMt3 жыл бұрын
Sandy gives another wonderful educational video, if all could teach or inform with his clarity there would be alot more stimulated people learning on the internet!!
@wrohr153093 жыл бұрын
i love these videos showing how these cars are made and if they were made sloppy. Thank You
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@nordlands87983 жыл бұрын
8:40 They need the space below for the towbar option.
@aircraftpartner26953 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great content. The chassis being based on the XC40 must have some compromises. I test drove the Polstar 2 and compared to the tesla, much quieter. I think it weight is its downfall, something like 300kg heavier then the tesla 3. Totally agree, focus of engineers should be on weight reduction, like in aircraft!!
@nelson15253 жыл бұрын
Needs another 100 miles of range for the price...weight makes you wait...when charging... and getting approved for that car loan .
@davetravels92733 жыл бұрын
True, but remember Volvo wants you to subscribe, not purchase. ;) That being said, their subscription is a great deal if you are going to spend this kind of money on a car, but I think only Volvo, not Polestar, does the subscription. The XC40 BEV is now available for subscription in Europe, probably a few months out in the US.
@BigEightiesNewWave3 жыл бұрын
Impressed with Polestar.
@cesartrujillo41903 жыл бұрын
Never apologize for taking our time. We all want more
@Svengali20003 жыл бұрын
Interesting as always! I have a Polestar 2 so it’s double interesting this time. I tried to figure out where the trailer hitch goes. Thought I would see the anchor points at 8:30 but I guess they are elsewhere. And where is the sensor that opens the trunk when you kick?
@nonyanks25103 жыл бұрын
They're retired or dead, that makes Sandy Young at Heart, glad you like the Polestar and take the time to show us what the he-- is headed our way, the coming Chinese wave is going to really weed out the innovators from the Dead Wood!
@efghabcd52373 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a comparison with a petrol XC40 would show the reason for some of the compromises, like that part at 8:30 about the big space between the bottom of the luggage space and aero-cladding. Could it be where the rear muffler goes?
@alexlo77083 жыл бұрын
Tesla also has leveling sensors of 11:35. I saw it from Bjorn Nyland Tesla test drive and refurbished clip when they had suspension problem on the old Tesla X.
@johnhoye45353 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, very interesting and a lot of information in a short time.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@blitzgameplay0073 жыл бұрын
09:56 Anyone remember the Volvo 142, always whistling down the road?
@sergiomessina20373 жыл бұрын
Another great, informative, and entertaining video! And what not…
@colinwatt003 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA. OMG. ‘Dead or retired’. That was Sandy’s most pure moment.
@RedBatteryHead3 жыл бұрын
Is the Tub higher to clear a towbar?
@briansilver96523 жыл бұрын
@8:10 Sandy shows the C Channel and my first impression of that from a northern climate perspective is that it's a great place for salt and sand from the roads to accumulate and start corroding the metal. Even an underbody carwash won't clean that channel out. Dropping the tub would solve that issue as well. Thanks Sandy!
@BTMwarrior2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your insights; they definitely help me up the EV learning curve. Regarding the Polestar 2 rear end and that space to the tub, a tow bar option was added in the 2022 model. I wonder whether or not some of that unused space was in preparation for the tow bar? In general, analysis of tow bar attachments, and folding methods, may be useful for a large part of your audience?
@GrenYT2 жыл бұрын
7:45 what exactly is the issue with the inverter placement?
@johncurtis9203 жыл бұрын
"I've got a good memory; it's just short." Classic.
@sonysony183 жыл бұрын
Frunk, trunk, hood now bonnet lol. Good on you for having a good sense of humor
@dand55933 жыл бұрын
8:44 i think if you hit ice or smth it will crush much more if was holded from there. Maybe :)
@roverdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sandy. It’s good to see these automakers taking electric autos seriously. I think that this and the Mach E are close enough to the Teslas that they are going to be cross shopped a lot. More competition is great for the consumers. I hope that some of the other carmakers get serious soon.
@tinrobot44793 жыл бұрын
I love videos like this. Many thanks.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@NinetyTres3 жыл бұрын
Time is on my my mind, yes it is Well done Munroe group
@arnoudwalrecht84793 жыл бұрын
great tour underneath the p2. it is a bit heavy for its size indeed.
@MrFoxRobert3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@froggy01623 жыл бұрын
That arrangement with the front extrusion pushing into the subframe is a common European design. My Renault and my Alfa Romeo are both set up like that.
@pjlehtim3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating video. Thank you!
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@mennoverhorst43443 жыл бұрын
Hi Munro, I have a question. I drive a Polestar 2 and work at an Automotive Educational company. Yesterday we did a hoist review aswel and noticed the half shaft are kind of inline with the motor with no obvious gear reduction or differential. Do you have any idea what is going on inside the drive units and how this is constructed/setup? Thank you.
@Thomas_Acharya3 жыл бұрын
Why should the inverter be as forward as possible?
@j00t00bfool3 жыл бұрын
That sensor arrangement seems really susceptible to road salt and other contaminants?
@johngpreston17843 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating and informative video.
@nihongobenkyoshimasu31903 жыл бұрын
Something you could talk about, the 2 Wheel Drive will be Front Wheel Drive, which is opposite of Tesla, VW,... It seems simpler to use the same Front Unit (suspension and motor) for all the models and have two different Rear Units. Any advantage for Front Wheel Drive beside Rear Wheel Drive for an EV, as I expect that the 4WD will mostly be in 2WD mode?
@LaurentVitalis3 жыл бұрын
All cars have larger discs in the front because of weight transfer when braking. For the same reason, EV regenerative braking in the front is safer (stability) and more efficient.
@ulwur3 жыл бұрын
Explains the placement of the inverter as well.
@onionface58352 ай бұрын
Im wondering if Polestar adressed any of these "issues" do they update their models constantly like Tesla?
@MrEtronic3 жыл бұрын
Hi sandy no comment on the extra long main's cable from motor to battery ..
@1981Frederick3 жыл бұрын
i get the cost focus of munro on reducing part and simplifying, wich make sense for model 3, mach e or hunday and other car that want to get into 30 or 40k$ price range, but i think polestar is going for the mercedes range of the EV, and cost cutting there and there is less of a focus, then having everything working flawlessly, and so far, i got to say if i was to buy a luxury car, that would surely be on my short list. thanks for the car presentation, there is so much tv show, magazine, web page of car information, review and comparison, yet none going as much under, and taking plastic cover to show fabrication details and quality as you
@per-hakongraarud69463 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sandy :-)
@patr59023 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a full tear down of the Polestar 2 or it’s cousin the XC40BEV. Seems like some the issues that Sandy has pointed out come from the comprises of building on a modified ICE platform rather than starting from the ground up BEV.
@davetravels92733 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I like Sandy, but he tends to view each car on its own, rather than as a corporate platform that needs economy of scale.
@birdyashiro12262 жыл бұрын
I wonder what is that light pen called?
@AndyZach3 жыл бұрын
"That would be my last choice on the planet to put the inverter." Great quote!
@smalanning96933 жыл бұрын
I wonder why?
@peteregan38623 жыл бұрын
Hopefully - you are taking out the tub under the hood so we get a view looking down into the front bay???
@Martin-se3ij3 жыл бұрын
Seems a lot of the bolts are longer than they need to be?
@caladanian3 жыл бұрын
Why should the inverter not be there?
@one_flew_over_the_cuckoos_nest3 жыл бұрын
Right, i was waiting for an explanation also.
@jessehayward86623 жыл бұрын
I value his opinion, it helps me evaluate the ev cars better.
@mgmacius3 жыл бұрын
Dear Sandy, have you seen the very first picture of a front mega casting for model Y? Wow. Just wow. This thing is gargantuan
@martinultimatevw37793 жыл бұрын
Yess, was waiting for Doo-Dads 🤣👌👌👌
@elektrotehnik943 жыл бұрын
@danielhull90793 жыл бұрын
Does Sandi have a AWS Code #.# CWI? Or he wrote the Code?
@GroovyVideo23 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@shortaybrown3 жыл бұрын
Sandy should love the huge front half of the model Y hollow-casting just produced a giga Berlin
@heathwirt89193 жыл бұрын
Looks well engineered and robust.
@concinnus3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the tub not deeper just because they hit their draw limit?
@AlphaShrike3 жыл бұрын
Did Sandy just reference The Friendly Giant @ 7:40?! :D
@RMTFamily3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that Polestar is a good product, but it still seems weird to me that Polestar is Volvo and Volvo is now Chinese.
@benjaminsmith22872 жыл бұрын
@@JorgTheElder Polestar is still very Swedish as well. Some Volvos are made in China and I can't really tell the difference between those and the Swedish-made or Belgian-made ones.
@Nderak3 жыл бұрын
Is that C channel going to fill with salt and water and then corrode quicker than the rest of the vehicle?
@DavidHRyall3 жыл бұрын
"If you blinked, you missed it" I did 🙈😂
@gentlestorm3 жыл бұрын
Dead or retired comment was hilarious 😂
@geoffgeoff33333 жыл бұрын
That battery box surface looks very rough - why not near-mirror finish like ModelY?
@erikbuiten143 жыл бұрын
it is, its just dirty right here.
@Pedro5antos_3 жыл бұрын
Great informative content! AWESOME
@sherpa9723 жыл бұрын
How are these designs for rodent and insect proof? Appears to have lots of places to nest. Thank you for these reviews.