2021 Polestar 2: E5 - Sandy's Final Take

Sandy and the Munro Live team wrap up with some final thoughts on the Polestar 2.
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[@jammi__]

For us living in the colder climates (half the year is more or less icy), we love our door handles. The mechantronics just won't work reliably when things can freeze.

[@geirnords]

This! Tesla has a big issue with this in freezing weather. The PS2 worked perfectly last winter!

[@thorsev6960]

This is why Munro should stick to taredowns and not try to be a car reviewer as well.

[@jammi__]

@@thorsev6960 Or at least he should consider Volvo actually knows what they're doing regarding detail like these unlike some Californian company with engineers who've only seen snow on TV. Volvo although owned by the Chinese Geely is still practically a Swedish company with Swedish engineers designing these cars, who know very well what Nordic winters are like.

[@thorsev6960]

@@jammi__ As an Icelander I can very much relate to what Volvo is doing. But it's not only this point of his with the Polestar. In a typical $TSLA fan boy fashion he decides to focus on acceleration, software and frunks when comparing EVs. Cars like ID4 and Enyaq are selling like hot cakes here in Europe, despite of all his criticisms, because they are very affordable, practical and spacious (especially considering their dimensions). To sum it up, I don't think he has any clue to what the average car buyer wants from a vehicle.

[@jammi__]

@@thorsev6960 Yes, I'm from Finland myself and over here we value corrosion resistance, range/economy, reliability, practicality, longevity, and winter features. Things like performance are enough if it's meeting the basic expectations of normal cars. Cars and everything car-related (such as fuels) are extremely heavily taxed, and since income is also extremely heavily taxed, a car is a major investment few private persons can afford as new. Most car owners never bought a new car, rather someone rich's used cars and used company cars. The average car age is over 10 years and the average car scrapping age is over 20 years. If a car doesn't last 20-30 years with normal use, it'll get a very bad reputation and not sell much in the future. Kind of funny that Munro likes something as niche as Jeeps, which are deeply undesirable here due to bottom-tier reliability at least in annual inspection statistics, are very unpractical, uneconomic, and so forth.

[@Gillotronique]

I am up to my third Volvo in 20 years and those Door handles will keep opening at -25 celsius, what about the Mustang? Keep up your good work!

[@no_more_free_nicks]

No doors should open at -25.

[@venti4268]

@@no_more_free_nicks I like to drive my car and -25 C is normal winter temp so the door handles have to work. Mach-e will not in snow and -25C I think. Looks like a good thing in warmer climate,but not in the nordics or alaska

[@mamadouaziza2536]

But in the USA the temperature almost never drops that low and it rarely drops that low in Europe.

[@jamesengland7461]

@@no_more_free_nicks door handles, as in they still function properly in extreme cold.

[@Patan77xD]

@@mamadouaziza2536 well it’s a Swedish car and that temperature is not uncommon in the winter in Sweden, Volvo always design for the Nordic climate.

[@johnhoye4535]

What you’re saying needs to be heard, I remember the first Toyota’s , did like them,on principle. Then drove and worked on them. I just couldn’t believe how good they were.easy to work on and fun to drive.

[@stephengevers5894]

I like seeing competition. That will make Tesla better too. Charging is still going to be an advantage for Tesla

[@Gcanno]

Like most big Corporations always do they fall back on the Government to subsidize their businesses ,the President is already proposing 500,000 charging station infrastructure program .

[@heathwirt8919]

Tesla's charging advantage won't last long, they need to keep improving the vehicle if they want to stay on top.

[@no_more_free_nicks]

Tesla is building 1 supercharger every day Worldwide. I hope they can speed this up. What is the most value out of superchargers except speed for Tesla is that: you don't need an app, you don't need to register, you don't need to press buttons, so that Is a good deal for me to travel around Europe.

[@georgeionescu6425]

@@heathwirt8919 they wont be in front for long,they will eventually be overtaken

[@seybertooth9282]

The charging thing is mostly a Tesla advantage in America. In the EU CCS is standardized and the network is quickly catching up, as far as coverage goes it's arguably caught up already.

[@Durianpieenthusiast]

Also I have to note that Sandy is one of those 'old guys' that doesn't virulently defend the status quo, and consistently looks towards the future in many different forms. Really inspiring. Really hope that I will get a chance to work under someone like that.

[@linguistisch]

Super inspiring. I'm so tired of people who can't be bothered to learn or understand.

[@thomasfsan]

Sandy has the balls to say what he thinks, no matter what’s currently the cool opinion. He’s probably gotten himself into tons of trouble over the years because of that. :D

[@Kust0r]

He's an engineer, I suppose he has to make statement based on facts.

[@sokacsavok]

The future of unable to get in your car if the battery is dead or it's winter or the electric motor died in the door or when there is a minor electrical problem? This is not progress.

[@DoughnutsInspace]

@@sokacsavok You get the issues with ICE cars and as an ICE has thousands more working parts there are more failure point too. ICE cars have had no real progress at all as they are all built around ICE. Where as BEV's are still a maturing technology and getting better all the time, so I am afraid to say you have no argument.

[@chrisrama7]

In the end "But I am still a tesla fan..."😂

[@CajunGreenMan]

IKR?! Rofl!

[@StormyDog]

The biggest problem with the Polestar 2 is that it's very expensive compared to the Model 3 and has nearly 100 miles shorter range. Combine that with no Supercharger network. Really, how is it a competitor? The Model Y is even considerably less expensive than the Polestar 2.

[@peterzerfass4609]

@@StormyDog I guess there's a big market for the "anything but a Tesla" kind of people. And for those the Polestart 2 is arguably the best choice. So the Polestar may not compete by way of specs but by way of market volume.

[@markusdd5]

@@StormyDog At the end of the day Range is only one parameter, and frankly the only one where the Polestar falls a little short. So if you do 95% of your driving in a 100-150 mile radius, then how would it matter? I myself drive a 85D Model S from 2015, which gets comparable range to the Polestar 2. And frankly: It fulfills my needs perfectly. I would still prefer Tesla because I like their UI more and the punch you get when flooring it is one of a kind. But that is super subjective.

[@theipc-twizzt2789]

@@markusdd5 But range is a very important parameter for most people, especially people who never had an EV and have range anxiety. Even the Standard Range + Model 3 has more range than the top Dual Motor Polestar. It kind of shows in the sales statistics.

[@Moshpitssser]

You and Teslabjørn are the greatest on KZbin when it comes to videos about EVs. Good work! Cheers from Norway!

[@epoxy1710]

Teslabjørn is deep in the VW pocket, lol

[@Groaznic]

At least in 2021, maybe also 2020, Teslabjörn has gotten quite a noticeable egocentrism. Some of his videos are hard to watch now because of that.

[@epoxy1710]

@@Groaznic He always has some car from VW wich he doesn't even film. Why should VW let him have a car for months without getting anything back? He always mentions VW

[@Groaznic]

@@epoxy1710 Just curious, how do you know so many details about how long VW gives him cars etc.?

[@epoxy1710]

@@Groaznic he said it. He didn't need to buy a new car after he sold his Model 3 because VW wanted to give him a car for 3 months or what it was

[@CaptEmee]

While Sandy did a great job in this review, what he didn't cover (unless I fell asleep) was the battery technology and motors. Both crucial to longevity, charging cycles, charging times and overall cost of ownership.

[@tomjohnston324]

I’m an old guy too. We have experience to draw on that the younger folks don’t have. I have the greatest respect for your investigation and opinion. Thank you.

[@Electric_Snap]

Please keep on sharing it with the youngsters that care. You 'Old Guys' have more experience and grit than we will ever see again. Thank you both!

[@yashabaral9302]

Yet another great video, Sandy! I really really hope that American OEM's will heed your call and not ignore China as a serious competitor.

[@terrysullivan1992]

They have been ignoring Tesla for almost a decade right in their own back yard and Tesla makes over 70 % of all EVs in the world. And those EVs are the best EVs and the best cars in the world.

[@Tafsern]

@@terrysullivan1992 Best cars? Really? They are really good with the electric part (the best) but to say they make the best cars, you clearly don't own one. They're hardly attached. Buy a new one and there's a 50/50 chance you have to see a service center a dozen times afterwards where half of everything you expect a new car to be is OK by tesla standard. The lowest standard in the industry.

[@AMortalDefiant]

@@Tafsern Spoken like someone who has no experience with Tesla. I live in San Francisco, and know dozens of folks with Teslas; only one had any issues, and Tesla came to his house and repaired it for him while he did remote work. To my knowledge, Teslas are still the only cars tested by NHTSA to get a perfect five stars in every safety category, and they produce the fastest production cars in the world for a fraction of the supercar price. Sandy has marveled over their "Octavalve" and "military-grade" electronics. I could go on for days about how Teslas are better in most ways than the average car.

[@martialman.4563]

@@AMortalDefiant My Tesla has seen about a dozen problems, think 10 or 11 and will soon be out of warranty.

[@alexd302]

@@Tafsern Gee, I really got lucky with a March 2020 M3dm. Never been anywhere near a service centre yet. Not once! And I forgot to buy a Lotto ticket...

[@ranig2848]

Volvo/Polstar/Geely is also going to produce under 50,000 of these (globally) this year. The legacy automakers are hitting the battery constraints just now... they’re finally experiencing what Tesla figured out 5-10 years ago... it’s a real shame they woke up 10 years too late. Now Tesla is going to eat up the market share as it builds it’s battery supply chain 2-3x faster than anyone else.

[@ranig2848]

@@deeperanddown In the original Battery Day presentation they said it will take 12-18 months to get to volume production of the 4680. They're also working with their partners (Panasonic and LG) to do 4680. Keep in mind that their plan is to complement (and match) outside production (from LG/Panasonic/CATL) with their own internal supply. VW which has the most ambitious plan for battery production (6 battery plants for a total of 240GWh in 2030) is less than the 10% of the 3TWh Tesla is planning to have by 2030. That means they'll be able to produce only 10% the number of electric cars that Tesla will be able to make - and this is when many countries will already mandate electric only cars... GM/Ford/FCA/Toyota are far behind VW in their plans... so it's not looking good...

[@nordlands8798]

@@ranig2848 VW will likely make more smaller cars like ID3 than Tesla, and also has no powerwall or grid powerpack products, so will likely make more cars per GWh battery production. The 240 GWh/year number is also specifically "in Europe" so not necessarily their only battery supply, I would therefore expect VW will actually produce 20-50% the number of electric cars Tesla will be in 2030.

[@icare7151]

Tesla knows their strengths and weaknesses. I firmly believe Tesla’s new Texas manufacturing plant will resolve those weaknesses. Competition is a win/win for consumers. Electrifying times.

[@esm7708]

I think the German plant will make a world of difference.

[@icare7151]

@@esm7708 Living in Colorado I have been trained in German Manufacturing Quality Control Mechanical Engineering, and feel that Tesla’s German plant will likely set their global quality standards for all other manufacturing plants to follow.

[@VoxelLoop]

I spoke to a mobile service guy here in the UK last week as he was fixing a rattling trim piece I had driving me insane. I asked him "What's the quality like on the 2021 models from China?" (UK just switched from Fremont to China-built cars), he jokingly said something along the lines of "They're amazing, so much better, but I need these to be bad otherwise I'm out of a job". 😅 I truly believe that Elon's statement of "How do you change the wheels on the bus when it's doing 80mph?" is exactly the reason why quality is rather poor from the Fremont factory. Up until very recently it produced all Model 3 and Y, how do you find the time to shutdown to renovate the line? You really don't.

[@martialman.4563]

Teslas biggest problem now is poor service and they are doing nothing yet to fix it.

[@VoxelLoop]

@@martialman.4563 Do we know how true that really is though? In my own experience I've had nothing but great service. It's likely limited to some stores. Remember, even if there's 100 people complaining, out of 1,500,000 cars that's a good ratio! (I do hear that the service time can be an issue, but they usually provide a loaner car, roadside service and generally getting in touch with service through the app seems to be almost a none-issue)

[@SET_EV_Guru]

Sandy, in these product comparisons LATELY, both on your channel and others that you are guest on, you forget to mention the still quite strong SuperCharger advantage. The other charging networks at this time still leave a while lot to be desired, as you experienced and mentioned on your road trip EV videos.

[@thomaslemay8817]

It is a big mistake to be a fan of any manufacturer ! I personally purchase the best piece of equipment for a specific job. Doing anything else is stupid.

[@jackripper5240]

Again, nice review Sandy! Please review a Model 3 with a solid casting in the future.

[@experimental_av]

"same car but with a solid casting" there you go

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@experimental_av "With a solid casting" (3?) which reduces Complexity of manufacture. Weight. Part production time (a lot!) Vehicle assembly time. Factory size, cost *and* complexity (a lot!) And increases Torsional rigidity (better handing!) Precision between components AND panels. So, a completely *different* car in terms of: Cost (profit!) Quality Handling (probably) ?

[@paolopetrozzi2213]

I don't agree with that "It's a Chinese car". It's owned and financed by the Chinese but is designed and realized in Sweden. It's still a Volvo, not a Geely.

[@MrFelixify]

Yeah, with that logic, All model 3 SR+ is "a chinese car"

[@paolopetrozzi2213]

@@JorgTheElder Ok, thanks.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@JorgTheElder It's not absorbed at all. If you wanted to see absorption, then GM's ownership of Saab is absorbed. Volvo seems more Volvo under Geely than it did Saab. And I'm not just talking about the little flags on the seats. The whole design, concepts and Volvo-ness of Volvo seemed to come back more in the Geely-owned Volvo versus Ford. And I'm reading Volvo may buy itself out of Geely anyway and then only part of Polestar, about half, would be owned by Geely. Polestar gets financial backing from Chinese and Korean investors and they'll get it from other areas as well. If I'm in a Volvo built in Belgium vs. one built in Sweden vs. one built in China, I can't tell the difference. Who designs and engineers it matters a lot more than where it is assembled.

[@hamar4422]

I love handles, very practical and intuitive. Your hands go there without watching or thinking.

[@MircoWilhelm]

But the reason for them being there is simple: It's a parts bin XC40 that was originally thought to be an S40... with all the little inconsistencies in the chassis reminding you of that.

[@AMortalDefiant]

But part of that is only because we're conditioned to look for handles. In design, that's called an "affordance". For example, when making a door that swings away from the user, a good designer won't add a handle on that side of the door, so it's obvious when looking at it that one has to push; pulling is not an option. It also saves money on unnecessary parts. We're just not yet conditioned to automatically go for the B-pillar (or whatever the new standard becomes).

[@RikNauta]

@@MircoWilhelm Disagree, it was a deliberate design decision because we have winters in Sweden...and when it freezes you need something to yank the door open with. The stupid ModelX ice-breaker doodad is terrible.

[@tzetv]

“It’s Chinese” - reality is what Geely did right was to fund Volvo but leave Volvo to develop its own cars (unlike Ford and Tata) in recognition that that IP would transfer through Geely group. Polestar is a direct transfer out of Volvo (eg design house). More Swedish than Chinese

[@DanielLupascu10]

What about the software? I still think Tesla’s software is way better than any other car. Not to mention the superchargers

[@rogerstarkey5390]

The Polestar (Android) UI is great. Ford.... 🤔

[@sanoj92]

Polestar has Android/Google SW. It has a good reputation so far.

[@intothewater1279]

Google UI

[@jamesengland7461]

I have to vehemently disagree with Sandy about door handles, inside and out. The door latch is a vital component, and a manual, mechanical, physical connection is the safest, most reliable means of entry and exit, especially in an emergency. An electrical button is an unnecessary extra step. In 1968 the Chevy Corvette had the perfect solution to provide aerodynamically clean exterior door handles-a simple door you push inwards to then grab the latch and open the door.

[@mattephoto6850]

Do not understand at all the complaint about the door handles on polestar 2. Much simpler and smoother than the Tesla and Mustang handles. It's nice when something in the design breaks off and everything is not just smooth surfaces. Tesla has among the worst of all, the mustang door handles just felt awkward. Tesla model 3 probably has among the most ridiculous and over minimalist interiors ever.

[@bretvh]

Definitely agree the rear window is too small, making for poor visibility, other than that 100% happy with Polestar 2.

[@NishantMor]

3 quick things: 1. The cup holder is hidden to carry the used cups. It’s a very smart way. 2. The handles are because of the extreme winter climates. 3. The physical buttons in the interior make it such a good blend between advance technology and old school!

[@TheSelfDrivingChannel]

I’m confused, the range on this car is atrocious, especially for the battery size. And it’s priced at model y level. Why would I spend the same money for 380 km of range when model Y has 525 km?

[@SDK2006b]

If you need 525km of daily range then get the Tesla. If don’t mind sacrificing some range for a quality, well built car with an interior then get the Polestar.

[@Gcanno]

@@SDK2006b I think some people can't conceive you would want any Electric Vehicle other than a Tesla. I could tell you many people will not want the same vehicle everybody else has especially in California and before people get all anti California in the comments it's a State with 39 Million People and the largest Vehicle market. Good luck trying to convince a large amount of people in Texas to buy Teslas when the Electric F150 comes out or an Electric vehicle in general.

[@EVMANVSGAS]

And let's not forget how much better the supercharger network is for when you do need to charge on a trip. This is why Tesla started building the supercharger network out before they got big. I am one of those people who can't conceive wanting anything other than a Tesla. Not because it has to be a Tesla but when you get so much more for your money and it is a Tesla, who can argue the point? The problem all the other manufacturers are doing half measures and not really going on in so you're going to wind up with EV's with a lot of shortcomings.

[@stefanwagener]

@@SDK2006b If you want a well built Tesla, move to Europe or China and get the Chinese made Model 3/Y. In Europe you can see a lot of reviews comparing American made Model 3 (the LR version) with Chinese ones (the SR+ version). Basically all American ones come with uneven panel gaps while the Chinese ones come with perfect panel gaps.

[@SDK2006b]

@@stefanwagener - yeah I know all of that 👍🏻 Chinese built TM3’s still have the same interior (nothing but a screen) and have more NVH than the Polestar 2.

[@ronaldlenz5745]

Sandy, did your staff tell you the Polestar 2 has limited availability? Here are the states with number of dealers: AZ (1), CA (3), CO (1), TX (1), NY (1), MA (1). EPA range is 233 miles. Price, about $54k AFTER tax credit.

[@GA-wq8xq]

Did your dad tell you that Tesla’s are poorly built, bad paint, lack of customization, lack of infotainment options and the fraud of fsd

[@rmflyer1258]

They need to tax the heck out of these invasion autos from Communist china

[@spl1011]

@@rmflyer1258 why? Because 'murcah would rather live in fear than try to innovate and compete?

[@spl1011]

Reason the trunk bucket can't be lowered is because there's a retractable tow hook option that allows it to be stored in that cavity.

[@Travlinmo]

Great comments. I always wonder how they can screw up cup holders. I would love to see a discussion on nationwide charging, beyond Sandy's general comments. It seems like cars like Polestar are coming fast that at least give the buying options but then the charging situation for non-Tesla isn't really close and the old Auto thinks someone else is going to take care of charging for them.

[@mirkohufnagel]

I think the discussion about cup holders is not the same in every country. I bought a Polestar in Germany a few weeks ago. The cup holder was not an issue at all for me and the family - we use it very very rarely. Mostly there are pens and notes in it :-)

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"The next battery will fix it" (but Tesla has "the next battery" on the way)

[@Gcanno]

Presidents already pushing a 500,000 charging station infrastructure program, (Subsidies for Corporations)

[@mamadouaziza2536]

My GOD, its not 2016, we are half into 2021 there are public chargers everywhere.

[@clevernduruza8624]

@@mamadouaziza2536 no they are not

[@jerrysadventure7423]

Sandy, are you planning to do any teardown videos on other Chinese electric vehicles such as XPeng Nio or Li auto?

[@nathanieljames7462]

Killin it Sandy and crew!

[@seybertooth9282]

For the people who are complaining about the pricing: Polestar is currently selling these cars as fast as they can manufacture them, as long as that's the case, why on Earth would they lower the price? There are too many "internet experts" who have no idea how business works.

[@SDK2006b]

Well said ⚡️👍🏻

[@cyclopsvision6370]

Those must be the same people that are waiting for Tesla's $25,000 car. If you can't afford an EV, you can always buy a conventional Toyota Corolla

[@patreekotime4578]

EVs generally need to be cheaper, but Polestar is literally Volvos luxury/performance arm... they aint gonna make a cheap one. In about 5 years I expect to start seeing really affordable EVs.

[@tren133]

​@@patreekotime4578 Part of it is import taxes and other costs associated with getting the Polestar 2 from China to the US. Geely's new Zeekr 001 is their first car based on a pure EV platform, and that thing blows the Polestar 2 out of the water in terms of range, performance, styling, everything, and they'll be selling it in China starting at the equivalent of $45,000 USD, which is cheaper than what the Polestar 2 costs in the US.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@tren133 I doubt it blows the Polestar 2 away in terms of some things as safety, quality, solidity and high-speed performance. I'm sure it's a nice car but let's not think that because Geely owns Polestar and makes cars that share a platform that they are of the same quality.

[@MrMaatkare]

Great overview of the 2 competitors to TM3

[@paullester2535]

I may be a dinosaur, but I prefer mechanical door handles!

[@max654000]

“Forget about the Japanese.” “Forget about the Chinese.” I guess history do repeat itself.

[@JigilJigil]

Actually they won't, China is totally different from Japan, different people with different culture and different way of thinking, contrary to Sandy's take on Chinese cars, I have owned a dozen of Chinese models from many noted Chinese brands, one after another comes with terrible build and considerbale flaws and issues, people tend to forget China have invested 100s, 100s and 100s billion of dollars in it's ICE car industry during the last 2-3 decades in the hope of gaining an acceptable share of global market, and they've miserably failed, actually their shift toward EVs is rooted in their failure of establishing a decent ICE car industry, and this shift is a just another failing endeavor to leap from building a decent ICE car industry to something new, I am pretty sure it will fail again, " we couldn't build a decent ICE industry let's leave it at that and jump to something new, this time we will be ahead because others are late to the game " that is literally what they say in China political industrial hegemony, and it's obvious it won't work, vision of making a globally successful EV car industry whitout mastering the inherent art and science and engineering of car making itself is delusional, of course they will have a large EV industry but it will be limited to China's borders and its domestic market only, China is something entirely different from Japan, comparing these two is silly and this car is not a Chinese one it's Volvo, and it will be Volvo, no matter how many times Sandy or anybody else call it Chinese.

[@82907]

@@JigilJigil Tesla's factory in china produce better teslas than the US factory.

[@batandball617]

Polestar and Mustang are amazing EV’s, it’s great to see more choices in the EV world. This is just the start, so many new EV’s in the pipeline from a diverse range of manufacturers. That said, I cannot wait to see what the new Model Y has to offer with all the new technologies, structural battery pack, Giga castings, 4680 cells, weight reduction and perhaps improved wiring loom too! I’m also intrigued to know which company has just ordered the 9,000 ton Giga press from Idra? I’m sure time will tell👍

[@LeesChannel]

Wait, the Mustang Mach-E DOES have have a frunk, and it's bigger, and it DOES have air piston supports for the hood, and it DOES go fast.

[@johnpham9244]

LOL...."I am still a Tesla Fan" .. like how he sneaked that in at the last moment

[@steamtorch]

Payola

[@nomoreheroes93]

I'm sure Sandy's been watching their stock drop off with concern haha. Surprised he made no reference to the operating systems too, I've heard Polestar>Tesla on that front.

[@kimblakely4559]

shows he has a bias

[@itekani]

Chinese? Well it is produced in China, it is Chinese owned, but it is developed and designed in Sweden. Polestar headquarters is located in Gothenburg.

[@j.kevinmcnary9561]

It's a Geely. It's Chinese.

[@rmflyer1258]

Yea But the factory is owned by the Communist Party NOT GOOD:(

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@j.kevinmcnary9561 It's Geely owned. It's not a Geely line of cars. This sort of thinking is ridiculous. A Bentley is now a VW? A Jaguar is a Tata? an Alfa Romeo is a Fiat? They are according to your logic.

[@Yoh_adrian]

The polestar is a very sleek looking car, but I agree that the door handles take away from the aesthetic.

[@experimental_av]

Think they add to the manliness of the car. They are there and you grab them. Period. Tesla and Mustang are kinda girly. Polestar had recessed ones on the Polestar 1 so it's not like they don't know how to make them.

[@Yoh_adrian]

I don’t hate the handles but given the sleek overall styling, it just feels like a missed opportunity.

[@LaurentVitalis]

Anyone whining about the door handles has never had to deal with an icy climate. The handles are a major selling point, in my case.

[@stephanweinberger]

@@LaurentVitalis yes, at the polar circle those touch sensors of the MachE will be frozen over in a couple of hours.

[@patriklindholm7576]

Facts stated as facts and opinions always pointed out as opinions; frank and clear. Sandy's the embodiment of honesty in the business.

[@MTNRanger]

I beg to differ on the pricing ("they're all the same price"). The ID4 is significantly cheaper than the Polestar 2: low $30k vs low $50k after tax credit. Granted there are plans to release lower priced (lower content 2WD) Polestar 2s in the future.

[@MadhuSudhan014]

It is a well made car, because its Swedish - just happens to be manufactured in China, like the iPhone.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

You mean "a well *designed* car because it's Swedish House'" If it's "well built" that's down to China.

[@rmflyer1258]

@@rogerstarkey5390 All made in a CCP Factory by the CCP nothing made in Sweden

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@rogerstarkey5390 And Volvos coming out of Gothenberg, Sweden; Ghent, Belgium; and heck, the USA aren't well built. It's not down to the factory's location. It's down to the way this thing is designed and the quality control that's across the board in all factories.

[@epoxy1710]

I don't buy china stuff, I have honor.

[@jakep9643]

Can't wait for Sandy's breakdown of the EV6

[@rogerstarkey5390]

I think the Hyundai will win that one.

[@eesti1234]

The handle helps with opening the door when starting to slip on the ice.

[@otm646]

That's ridiculous. I live in an area with heavy snow and ice. No one would ever attempt to open the door and steady themselves with the handle, you would rip it clean off. You position yourself with your hip up against the passenger door, crack the door open with the handle and then grab the upper door frame with your left hand (opening the door) and the A pillar with your right hand as you move forward to grab the grab handle or steering wheel to sit in the car. If it's icy out you would never attempt to apply a force like that unsupported as you suggest.

[@cheab14]

@@otm646 and this....this RIGHT HERE having a standard operating procedure to get in your car. Is why i run from snow and snowy places...talkin bout hip on door imma pray for warmth for you.

[@Greg29]

Tesla gave the Chinese a huge head start by sharing their technology, willingly.

[@praero551]

Chinese Head start? If any head start US could have taken their a.. together a learned instead of bullying flat out like that should move them upwards, lol. US had their chance, and still today they use sponsored media to put Tesla down anytime possible, they are not proid of US build and designed world class, poor loosers.

[@Greg29]

@@praero551 I literally don't understand anything you just posted.

[@sandersson2813]

Tesla design looked outdated as soon as they made it. Polestar, Jaguar, Audi, Ford, Merc, Porsche etc all make better looking and crucially better made cars.

[@j.kevinmcnary9561]

🤡🤡

[@sandersson2813]

@@j.kevinmcnary9561 Tesla ranks appallingly for build quality. Sorry you don't agree with me, but like most American cars theyve done a poor job of design, better than most American cars, but quite derivative and quite out of date.

[@juandrevandenberg20]

Love your videos Mr. Munro.

[@sunshinebracha]

Door handles belong to car design as much like ears on the head..I love the look on polestar, just my opinion 😉

[@structuralengineering3406]

Tesla look is feminine car. Spot on. lol.

[@DrinkingStar]

Sandy, I bought shares of Geely back in the 1990s after they went from making refrigerators to making cars. I also have stock in other car companies such as NIO, Porsche, and several others. I want to buy stock in Aptera. I want to get in on the ground level like I did with Geely but I can't seem to find anything in the NYSE nor in NASDAQ or AMEX. If it is possible to buy stock in Aptera, which stock exchange should I go to?

[@mikepetersen5024]

Can't wait to see the Ford F150 review. Wait they haven't made them yet. I bet the Cyber Truck will be produced first and the F150 price will increase substantially due to battery cost.

[@GA-wq8xq]

Wait let’s see each companies track record! The cyber truck will be fourth to market after Ford, Rivian and GMC. I am waiting for the semi, roadster and fed all years late.

[@KuyaArbee]

LOL why is TESLA always compared.... TESLA is just the first mass produced mainstream EV... doesn't mean they will be overall the BEST! Ford was the first mass produced car...... and FORD cars are SH*T, only good products they make are their trucks

[@esm7708]

It cool there is finally competition for Tesla in the Mustang, Polestar and Ioniq 5.

[@surferdude4487]

I would hope that the Auto OEMs would have learned from the Japanese take-over of the quality vehicles market, but given their lack-luster attitude toward electrification, I doubt it. In any case, Tesla is an all American auto manufacturer and they are going to be around for a while. Ford and GM, maybe not so much?

[@nihongobenkyoshimasu3190]

7:22 Mr. Sandy Munro, could you make a video about your opinion (about survival) of other OEMs and in particular the new Stellantis conglomerate?

[@schabalabadingdong7805]

5:26 my cat when i feed her anything but her favourite deluxe wiskers

[@stefanwagener]

When it comes to backseat space, the Polestar 2 is probably the worst EV currently. Tunnel on the floor between the seats makes it a 4 seater and not a 5 seater and headroom is only for small people. I don't understand why the backseat space gets a positive review?

[@SDK2006b]

How many people actually use the rear middle seat these days 🤔. My guess it’s in the low, single digit percentages.

[@stefanwagener]

@@SDK2006b Yes, I assume so as well, but it is still false to claim that Polestar has good backseat space. And the headroom is basically killing this because average sized adults can not really sit in the back. Have you tried?

[@benjaminsmith2287]

I'm almost 5'11" and the back of the Polestar isn't that bad. The only thing I didn't like about it was how upright the seats are. You get a lot less room in say a Genesis G70 than you do in this Polestar. (Yes, I realize the Genesis is not an EV).

[@1sheinz]

And then there is the fact that this car takes 4 HOURS LONGER to travel 1000 km than a Tesla and 3 hours longer than the Mustang.

[@mjcambron]

Polestar dealer network is horrible. Currently just 9 in the entire USA. Only Austin, TX in the center of the country. Nothing in Chicago, Cleveland, Lexington, Nashville, Detroit, Minneapolis, Houston, Dallas, Des Moines, St Louis, Omaha or Sante Fe...

[@DrewS777]

Center console hitting my knee is deal-killer for me.

[@ewadge]

I follow another reviewer who had the car on long term and complained about hitting his knees on the center console too so I guess that it really is a problem.

[@axiomic]

I think they need to solve that asap. Maybe with a retrofit. However I hear they can't keep up with the demand.. so that's unlikely.

[@royhoynes2787]

Canceled my order after testing the car twice. The console hitting my knee was the worst.

[@brewsandbass5572]

Someone sent him the E_F-150

[@kemicbi]

polestar is going to fade away, volvo is already producing electric cars, ford has a huge investment in rivian and it looks like they can build a solid electric car from the looks of the mach-e, if the f-150 lighting can deliver on range and towing, ford is going to take off as their batteries get better and better

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Polestar has been around as a performance company since 1996. Now it's a sister company to Volvo. I don't see the basis of you saying it's going to "fade away." Also, there are a lot of markets worldwide where this type of "performance Volvo" would be appealing. Volvo's electric cars won't have the performance of Polestar's and Polestar will be first with technology, then Volvo.

[@hqsound5582]

I agree mostly with Sandy. PS2 have clumsy old door-handles. Ford Mach E uses a canard (aerodynamic spoiler) as door-handle, 2 functions in one, brilliant design. PS2 is ok, but it's chassi is based on PS1 (hybrid) & too heavy compared to Tesla M3/Y. I don't like the interior. Too small center screen on a too big console. Polestar Precept is similar, but better, with all stupid design removed/replaced. Check this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmWwg6SEebKmf7M

[@TheHerstad7]

I think volvo/polarstar will sell a lot of these cars but not in north america. This car is made for china/european markets in mind.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Why?

[@seybertooth9282]

@@rogerstarkey5390 One reason is that it's expensive in America compared to Tesla. In Sweden the Polestar 2 costs exactly the same as a Tesla Model 3 LR.

[@RikNauta]

Agreed. Polestar 2 has a bit of a brand recognition problem over there it seems as well. But price might also be a factor (in Sweden they are much closer).

[@pkuula]

VAG has it own strategy how it brand its different brands. VW is somewhere midle in performance and quality, If you wat fast or more sportier of higher quality car then you had to get Audi or Porche. Or if you need sheaper VAG then there is Skoda and Seat for you.

[@sokacsavok]

If the biggest problem with the Polestar is that its doors are mechanic, then basically it is perfect. I always thought that the electric/button operated door opener was invented so that less sophisticated people can be impressed. It has zero advantages, and many disadvantages, more complex, weighs more and more expensive.

[@Top12Boardsport]

Nice with competition that is what makes things evolve. Both design and price. So now they have to ramp up things and start designing the mass market product. That segment has been waiting long enough. The BEV market started more then 10 years ago at $ 100.00 now it’s $ 50.000 and mass market is at $ 25.000, here is we’re the battle will be. It will make or break for a lot of carmakers. A strong bet would be that the Chinese will win the race, but let’s hope not that is the case.

[@dseife]

Challenges to being an early adopter! My Polestar 2 EV was in the Volvo/Polestar service dept for the 2nd time in its short lease life, this time for 26 days, to try to fix software and possibly hardware issues. With the help/intervention of Polestar corporate, the car was finally returned yesterday afternoon with 45% remaining so I plugged it in and I couldn't immediately charge it. Back to the service dept today; the brutal saga continues! According to IHS Markit, forecasted expected volume for 2021 is only about 250 vehicles/month. Polestar corporate, its PS2 vehicle, the customer service team, vehicle repair services, and parts inventory are clearly not ready for prime time in the US! It is not like you can go to another dealer or repair shop; your are stuck with the one service location and team. Lesson learned?

[@PhilT993]

It just needs more range. Tom Moloughney's steady 70mph range test, with the Polestar 2, he got only 226 miles out of 100% of the battery. In the 2021 Model 3 Long Range, steady 70mph range test, he got 305 miles.

[@heathwirt8919]

I fully agree with Sandy's evaluation of the Polestar, it's a solid well built good looking EV.

[@markarvind9765]

There are many things I don't like in a Tesla. The interior sucks in Model 3 and Model Y. The competition from Mach E, Polestar 2, Audi E-tron and Hyundai/Kia will definitely make Tesla better. I own a Tesla, I like my Model S but my next EV is going to be a car made by someone other than Tesla if Tesla does not improve the Interior and drop the price.

[@wobby1516]

I prefer the Mustang, but like you say only 50,000 being made, that’s madness. However as good as these cars might be their respective manufacturers still don’t get it! Tesla’s Charging leaves them all behind in the dust Tesla are way way way ahead. Yesterday I did a trip across the U.K. in my motorhome, we stopped at a motorway service station and noted 8 Tesla charge points and 1 useless 45 kWh open charge point by the now laughable electric highway known here in the U.K. as Ecotricty. Until the car manufacturer start talking Tesla language and get serious about charging stations people won’t bother buying their cars.

[@M17-f4c]

It really hurts to hear you say it's a Chinese car! Everything about this car is Volvo, from bumper to bumper. Just because it's majority own by a Chinese company doesn't make it a Chinese product or a Chinese technology! I understand tho, they bought for it and now it's "theirs" I guess and we just work for them.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

I don't understand this, isn't Polestar old news? They tried to take on Tesla, but failed in all key metrics except maybe ride and body quality. It is expensive and not very efficient. New fwd version performs more or less like a VW. So what is the news? Maybe rather look at the Xpeng p7.

[@sheldonv8]

How are you supposed to open the Mustang doors when they're frozen up?. There's nothing to pull on. At least you can get hold of Tesla handles even when they're retracted. Tesla will keep selling in the UK as the "public" charging infrastructure is terrible and basically doesn't work with 10-15 different companies all needing different apps to make them work. I dread the day Tesla opens up to letting other manufactures use it's chargers.

[@rarelyaccurate6252]

After watching this video, and a few others and a test drive I bought a Polestar 2.

[@spl1011]

Did you lease it?

[@rarelyaccurate6252]

@@spl1011 yes, I leased it. The lease in my area was really reasonably priced. I'm about 2000 miles into the car and so far it has been perfect. Although, my mother broke the visor mirror cover off (damaging it), which apparently is not a robust design.

[@craigme2583]

How do you get in a mustangs with a flat battery. Great review, but you got to show it driving, you got to demonstrate its road manners, real driving everyday experience. Is the steering heavy? Like driving. Charging plugs, what a nightmare for EV no standardisation. Can you plug direct into your wall? And insurance, and can you get it fixed without trucking it a across the country? Parts?. I've scribed but this could be better.

[@tdbb8655]

Great review of the Polestar 2. I love your honesty en great expertise.

[@robertn2951]

Could Sandy please explain to us why Ford will only produce 50.000 Mach-E this year? If people want them, why not build them?

[@bar1ton1]

I love door handles! Come on. Those button/wing things on Mach-E are really annoying. Stupid as heck, drove me crazy when I had this car for couple of weeks. Also come on, no handles at all at the back, oh why.

[@gibby7616]

What's wrong with good ol fashioned #MechanicalLinkage?? I bet he'll #Retract his statement on "No Door Handles" when it becomes #Mainstream news that it's a flawed design... especially in emergency situations Just like electronic shifters... Unnecessary #OverEngineered Stick with what has worked for the past century

[@roverdad]

Lol, i prefer the prop rod to the gas shocks. I tend to keep cars for awhile and the shocks go bad. The prop rod always works. This car is definitely competitive. It will be interesting to see 2021-2022 ev sales figures in Europe. I think this is a nice step up from the id3/id4 but not sure about the price difference.

[@apainlessone]

I also have some 20 year old cars...the gas shocks cost about $20 and can be changed in less than 5 minutes at home. Just two clips hold them on.

[@petrihaikio7002]

I have had frozen doors i needed to pull on with all my might to open.. So doorhandles are fine for me.

[@jorgejavierlaborde6623]

cars that I wanna see Sandy to check out: -Mercedes-Benz EQS -Audi e-tron Q4

[@bilgyno1]

Audi is the same basis as the ID.4: there's not much more to learn. Differences interior and exterior design, use of materials, perhaps infotainment. But the whole undercarriage is the same. Does not mean it can't be a better car than the ID.4. Just like the Enyaq is better (bigger, yet more efficient, easier controls and infotainment) than the ID.4.

[@stefan2796]

The Polestar 2 offers value for money, but it's 100% Chinese. For that reason i would never ever buy it. Love the new Skoda EVs!!!

[@tedbaxter5234]

Thank you! No one I’ve seen is doing the comparative analysis between these EV’s as you do. Stay safe and healthy!

[@gman9543]

Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but I like physical controls with tactile feedback so that you can do things by feel and muscle memory, rather than have to look away from the road to see what your hand is doing. Having everything on a touchscreen is a bad design. Makes the bean counters happy, but doesn't do anything to alleviate cognitive load from the driver. So when you say "transitional design" is for "old folks", I'd have to disagree with you.

[@Joasoze]

I tried Tesla and Polestar. Both great to drive. I bought the Polestar because it felt better and looked better for me. The paint on Tesla 3 seems to be weak and easily damaged.

[@gerardduarte7531]

The capricious rowboat mechanically risk because unshielded unequivocally marry but a black paint. dynamic, worthless cockroach

[@dMaribo]

Maybe Sandy could address why the Polestar/Volvo is so much less efficient energy-wise than almost everybody else, especially Tesla. This is an engineering question, his specialty.

[@RichardJOberle]

I like the look of the FORD. But never buying another Ford. Telsa is the only charging network I feel is good enough. I would hope they standardize all charging stations over time.

[@rogerholgate6575]

Test drove one on Sunday here in Arizona. Loved the car, but that center console was also a killer for 6'1" me. Had nowhere for my right knee. Went and drove the Model Y later in the day and despite the 10 week wait, compared to 2 weeks for the Polestar. Chose to go that direction!

[@wimschoenmakers5463]

Nobody in the world needs a cupholder in a car except Americans. Today they even build them in European cars. Europeans use them for putting keys, trash or coins in. 🤣

[@pawpawbandit3871]

it might be a good car, but sorry the styling isn't on par with Tesla ..and I'm not even a fan of Tesla's styling...I'm a Canoo fan waiting to be an early Canoo owner.. I would say Canoo will be a major success and the whole shape of electric vehicles will change forever and go to a Canoo style / new / pod-style... and an "gas car" style... with a hood... in other words...the only reason frunks fken exist is because hoods still exist...because car designers before Canoo are all thinking entirely within the wrong box - the one that literally used to contain an internal combustion engine, which doesn't exist now - so there's no need to design the car as if it did.

[@bobuk5722]

It's interesting, is it not? Seeing the perception differences between European and Stateside views expressed below. Interesting problem for global manufacturers - how to satisfy assorted global markets and keep costs down at the same time. It cuts all ways.

[@PlayRoomHR]

"Volvo is know for making safe cars woman like to drive". Is this guy for real? WT actual F

[@andyonions7864]

Dood, either the Polestar is Swedish and the Mustang is American, or, the Polestar is Chinese and the Mustang is Mexican...

[@capedoryus]

All's good till you need four connectors and you only have one Polestar/Volvo dealer per 2 million people. Sorry that part is NA.

[@flantc]

I have never known anyone who has lemon lawed a car until we how to lemon a Volvo PHEV. Maybe it’s because it was not made in China, maybe it’s because it was a PHEV, or maybe it was something else, but I know we will not purchase another Volvo.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Japanese stuff was LAUGHED AT in the early 60s I remember as a kid.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

I do as well. Then Korean. And now Chinese but we're beginning to deal with the fact that Chinese are formidable as well.