2022 Acura TLX Type S vs Tuned Honda Civic 1.5T CVT, family feud. Drag and Roll Race.

[@SamCarLegion]

One silly mistake: Type S makes 355 bhp not 335bhp.

[@gustavomunguia9090]

Get the Accord tuned on phearable stage 3 then run against this

[@kiastingergt2231]

@@gustavomunguia9090 exactly lol. Like mine

[@willg6199]

Plus it has a straight pipe exhaust he says, so prob another 10whp roughly

[@vroomgc]

@@willg6199 Lol. That must be some restrictive exhaust to get 10 hp from basically just dropping the muffler ;)

[@vroomgc]

@@gustavomunguia9090 What Accord ?

[@joe6843]

Bro that civic is a beast from a roll, Holly cow

[@TheFK8Life]

You should see a manual version with even more power - walk the S easily from a 60 roll

[@-igotwhateva9771]

@@TheFK8Life manual does not have more power you goofball, the automatic is a 10 speed the manual is a 6 speed u sound goofy asf🤣

[@TheFK8Life]

@@-igotwhateva9771 The CVT can only hold around 250ftlbs before you risk snapping the chain. The manual stock clutch will hold 290ftlbs before it slips and will hold 500ftlbs with a type R retrofit clutch You dont know what the fuck your talking about and sound clueless asf

[@Tender_vigilante]

@@-igotwhateva9771 it’s a cvt not a 10 speed it doesn’t have gears you sound goofy asf🤣

[@-igotwhateva9771]

@@Tender_vigilante nigga cvt is worse ya fucn idiot cvt can’t handle power mods🤣 they’re pieces of shit, auto over manual get of yo feelings

[@colinfitzpatrick9931]

I’d love to see a stock type r vs the type s

[@babisotonggg]

type S would be faster since type r kinda lose to that 1.5 tcp modified if this is the same car as previous video of course

[@dodoubleg2356]

YEESSS!!! I wish they'd stop racing "tuned" vehicle's, b/c then it's more about who has the better tune & mods & less about the faster car right off the lot, which is what most people are gonna have. They must be hurting for content.

[@ashourfk8shamoun503]

Type R vs type S would definitely be interesting… Also cvt civic looks like it lost power since the last time my R ran it..🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TheFK8Life]

@@dodoubleg2356 If you want stock numbers read a magazine

[@joe6843]

Honda NEEDS to put a launch gear like Toyota did in their cvt, that's all this car needs and it's more than a beast

[@christopherayala4619]

Exactly this honda would've been a beast with launch gear.

[@jSyndeoMusic]

The thing that makes me sad is that something like a launch gear can’t be added aftermarket. I love my 10th gen Civic, and knowing it’ll never have things like that is a bummer. Cars are so integrated these days; there’s less and less room for changes like that.

[@joshuav1088]

No it’s not that you can’t compare fwd vs awd the car can’t put the power to the ground basic physics

[@geforce5591]

The SPORT model has paddle shifters which helps with launch from a dig. This CVT model doesn't come with the shifters.

[@jonathann3698]

The only thing Honda needs to learn from Toyota is reliability... Performance is not a thing

[@FB6K24Z7]

Zeuses Civic X 1.5 Turbo Cvt never seizes to impress me good races from a dig the cvt lacks a bit on the launch but from a roll once L15B7 hits boost and reaches 6000rpm then it really starts to show it's potential the TLX Type S is not that impressive for what it is in stock form but it does have potential for making power with aftermarket performance parts and ecu remapping

[@Vermonstered]

4200 lbs though. You need to shed about 3-400lbs to be a respectable AWD performance sedan. The TLX Type-S is actually slower than a stock 2.0t Accord from any kind of roll. It's a touring car, with AWD. Beyond that I've never understood the performance interest in it.

[@vroomgc]

Who is doing ecu tuning for the Type S ?

[@vroomgc]

@@Vermonstered Agreed its a heavy thing and I'm not sure why they even bothered to call it a Type S... Maybe just Sport or some other word. Thats marketing for ya.

[@thesairymanomg4745]

@@Vermonstered Imposible, seen races in this channel The Honda Vs the Acura and the Acura gaps the honda, is slow but an accord aint that fast than the acura

[@elenchus]

it's comparable in weight to the other AWD performance cars its size and basic configuration (the 540i xDrive and the A6 55 TFSI), and it easily walks the Accord Sport 2.0T in roll racing as seen on this channel. As per the performance interest in it, it's one of the fastest cars in its class in terms of handling. Morotrend's Figure 8 test had the Type S beating the S4 and matching the m340i, despite both being much smaller, lighter cars with better acceleration. It's more than Honda put all of its eggs in the handling basket; they more than sufficiently compensated for its size and weight in handling, but should have been making 400 (or more) horsepower to compensate for it in a straight line. Although it's comparable in weight to the A6 and 540i xDrive, it's still slower than both in a straight line. But that's the exchange; do you want better handling and more acceleration from the factory.

[@Christusolus]

Everybody complains about the Type S having insufficient power, but the motor and trans is built and forged.

[@crobergecourtier]

Ready for monster HP

[@slipknotron1626]

my biggest complaints are the weight and price 🤣🤣🤣

[@ThatPurpG80]

@@slipknotron1626 its heavy asf

[@2010ngojo]

@UCHJMw1NkkULNvRW1Lsuh-ng Cheapest? What cars are you comparing to?

[@slipknotron1626]

@@ThatPurpG80 oh I know its charger heavy.

[@angusbeef880]

cvts stink from a standstill, first hand experience but when you start from a roll that's where it gets interesting

[@rigoeats3654]

Also civic is FWD and Type S is AWD

[@archanaobso1094]

Another awesome video Sam. If it's possible I think it would be interesting to see some matchups between the Type-S vs 5.7 Charger vs CT4/5 Caddie! Keep up the excellent work!

[@tigereyetypes]

As a type s owner, the scat pack and Camaro SS are more comparable. My J35 TLX used to stomp RT and 5.0s

[@rondo9823]

@@tigereyetypes that sounds like cap unless you’re running some big mods. 5.0s are comparable to a SS and a scat pack. Dumbest thing to say that an older TLX would eat that when the motor is from an older TL. 290hp against 450hp beasts? Yeah be realistic. I have the older type S which is the same j35 they’ve been using and I know for sure it ain’t eating no damn 455hp redline at 7k V8 monster. The new TLX type S is a j30 with twin turbos, 10AT and AWD that would still get beat by a 5.0s or the other two. If the Q50 red sport AWD at 400 ain’t beating a 5.0 with same amount of weight basically a little less than the TLX then make it make sense how an older TLX with a basic 3.5 v6 with no forced induction would really beat that😐

[@Ih8chew]

@@tigereyetypes lies. 0-60 and quarter mile times are dead nuts even between the 5.7 Charger/Challenger and the 2021 TLX Type S. And the 5.7 Charger/Challenger actually traps a higher speed than the Type S in the quarter mile. With the 2021 Type S being dead nuts even with the 5.7 a 6.4 Charger/Challenger will demolish it in all speed metrics. Don’t even get me started with your claim of the older TL even keeping up with any of the cars mentioned 😂😂😂😂

[@elstaywinning5735]

@@tigereyetypes yo type s not faster then a RT chill out

[@pixelxl7194]

@Larry Fisherman Holy hell, you are one delusional Acura fanboy. A stock Charger R/T is equal to a Type S in the 1/4 and pullls it on the top end. A J35 TLX would get crushed by an R/T, never mind an SRT or a 5.0..

[@MrSamPhoenix]

The owner of the gorgeous TLX Type-S needs to tune the car. People are starting to make nice power with its turbo 3.0L V6.

[@SamCarLegion]

Is coming

[@curiosityredpill7030]

Imagine spending over 50k and suppose sports car and still need to put more money into it that makes no sense to me

[@mike6136]

@@curiosityredpill7030 Yes, very true. I was suprised Type S lost from a roll (although I shouldn't have).

[@exns577]

@@curiosityredpill7030 its a sporty luxurious sedan, they didn't fully focus on speed. Their goal wasn't anything close to cars like BMWs and ext. I do get what you're saying tho.

[@keithjay4944]

@@curiosityredpill7030 true bro, the Kia stinger gt and Q50 Rs smokes this type s 🤣 same price as well.

[@TrayCaddyyy]

Amazing that the CVT can handle 240 ft-lb of torque.

[@rashidadat6494]

Has been waiting for this race. Impressive Civic

[@LearningFast]

The CVT isn’t “1 speed”. Technically it is infinite speed because the transmission is “continuously variable”. Also the CVT allows maximum performance because it allows the car to stay at maximum HP throughout the entire run. Max acceleration at a given speed is achieved at maximum HP.

[@ROBMACDUI]

Yes once moving but from a stop Cvts will always suffer. Additionally there is a hard limit to how much torques they can withstand before slipping and that limit will decrease as the transmission wears. Once they start slipping you are talking about a full rebuild so as soon as you’ve realized you’ve hit that limit you’ve done irreversible damage.

[@LearningFast]

@@ROBMACDUI the reliability of CVTs is definitely a significant concern. That is why performance cars don’t use them. However, a CVT still offers better performance than any other transmission as long as it can sustain the HP/torque the engine is producing.

[@ROBMACDUI]

@@LearningFast agreed on paper but that torque limit is such an issue that every manufacturer using them has to limit throttle when accelerating from a stop and is the reason why Toyota uses a standard first gear in their CVTS.

[@LearningFast]

@@ROBMACDUI yes, that is correct. Manufacturers typically have to retard the performance of an engine to safeguard the CVT. However, the CVT is still capable of getting optimal performance if it is robust enough to handle the HP/Torque loads. They have newer versions of CVTs that don’t use belts so those are more reliable. Reliability is always a concern with them though. Ironically, electric vehicles could benefit the most for performance from a CVT if the CVT could handle the torque of an electric ⚡️ motor.

[@tyablo]

it is one speed but infinite rations. tlx has 10 speeds but fixed 10 ratios

[@burnt_type_s]

that civic goes nuts but wait til this summer when the mods start rolling in for the type s 👀 scary hours

[@Tsand4]

Scary hours for who?lol

[@ThatPurpG80]

@@Tsand4 always dick riding 🤣 dont you have a life? Go return your leased kia

[@Ih8chew]

The mods will start rolling so it can actually keep up with the Stinger, 340i, S4, etc?

[@Tsand4]

@@ThatPurpG80 butthurt😂😂😂………big liar weirdo claiming months ago you got 4.7 0-60 on dragy………shit ur closest is 4.9’s ya weirdo all these butthurt type s owners cuz they bought a car that is slow as dog shit…….so when I see scary hours😂 Ima call y’all out like I said scary hours for who?👀

[@ThatPurpG80]

@@Tsand4 aw I got you so mad you typed a paragraph. Once again have fun with that leased kia. Heard they catching on fire these days 🤣

[@EricG311]

Now, we need a 2023 TLX Type S vs a 2024 Integra Type S race video. Make it happen!

[@Br33zeKooL]

How about saying the mods that he has done?

[@raymondtang1262]

Quite impressive. I know The Type S is heavy but at the same time it has twice as big of an engine. To me it's more like top end issue on on Type S and that's what many ppl reviewers said too. Let's face it, it's 3.0L vs 1.5L.

[@joe6843]

Exactly, the civic did excellent

[@alpe6228]

the type-s is a big heavy sedans racing against a light tuned car.WHat did you expect?tune the type-s and watch it smokes the civic,simple as that.

[@nbaseizure6478]

@@alpe6228 There’s a reason there’s a bigger engine 😐

[@aoescool]

yeah definitely top end.. but they are working on the hondata tune for it.. and prl and p2r are working on intake and exhaust bits.. that will open it up.. the J engines always opened up more with bolt ons.. and now this j engine has a factory turbo so its going to be interesting when the hondata tune is finished.

[@driveri1435]

@@alpe6228 butthurt as always.

[@AcuraChannel]

Great race!! The Roll race was an advantage for the Civic..

[@speed23ism]

I think its important to list mods in civic if its more than just a tune (as thats all thats indicated).

[@TheFK8Life]

The CVTs are weak and cant handle much torque - easily max it out with a tune - CVT tunes are dialed down quite a bit vs the manual ones. CVT torque is kept low around 240ftlbs or so - stock turbo on an e30 tune can make 340ftlbs ...280whp with downpipe and e30 tune 29psi on stock turbo. FBO they have run 12.1@113

[@speed23ism]

@@TheFK8Life thank you! I thought I heard this civic had a built engine and hybrid turbo, but I agree the cvt wouldnt support that for long.

[@pssita]

Some tunes are out now for the Type S. Soon there will be more tuning options.

[@ThatPurpG80]

Just JB4

[@ffrnando4388]

It’s illegal to tune a car

[@ThatPurpG80]

@@ffrnando4388 🤣🤣

[@chrismcclure6438]

@@ffrnando4388 🤣🤣

[@alpe6228]

The type-s is just a perfect daily driver.Plenty enough power,great look,good interior and a forged engine.Cant ask for more.

[@jakerogers7277]

Something a slow fat Acura girl would say

[@alpe6228]

@@jakerogers7277 You are broke and you dont even own a car so I dont know.Get out of your mom's basement,get a job,get your driver's license and then buy a car.Then ,maybe you cant talk shit about what you cant afford.Good idea right?

[@jammindesigns7135]

I love you guys man, making all the right video!!!! New sub.

[@coreyevans5408]

Yea, I'd love to see that civic vs a g70 or stinger.

[@emoya319]

Sam, you Rock man I love the content

[@prasiddha1986]

New intro music is much better than the previous one. Now need a better stats screen.

[@ClubZlut]

Laughing at how slow the Type S is never gets old. On another note, that little Honda can move. I wonder how it would do against a stock Stinger GT or S4/C43.

[@JohnCena-jb3yp]

That civic is beating a c43 from a roll guarantee

[@ClubZlut]

@@JohnCena-jb3yp Are you sure? The C43 is the second fastest in the class behind the M340i and it demolishes the Type S from a roll. I think that civic based on how it beat the Type S may be able hang with it and get walked if you ran it out but to even be in the conversation is impressive.

[@pennyrussell5655]

@@ClubZlut q50 rs is faster than a c43

[@JohnCena-jb3yp]

@@ClubZlut the M340i is alot faster than the the c43, this civic shines even more so on top end, so if they keep going even further than a 1/4 mile I'd say that increases the civic chances even more, look at the second dig race here, you can see the civic was starting to catch up but the 1/4 was over. And yeah to be even considered going against those cars is impressive for the civic, I think people need to put some respect on it, it's 1.5 cvt economic car for crying out loud. It's competes with granny corollas 🤣🤣🤣 but it's punching way past its weight and winning too.

[@brokentradgedy]

Yea it's funny I agree....but the only problem is a simple tune and it will make 450 whp+

[@alexl.102]

We need to see the civic go against the stinger/g70, s4/s5 and q50 rs.

[@devonforsure260]

I think from a roll it'd be a really good race

[@Superdimensional]

TLX just needs that v6 turbo to be uncorked and it’s gonna be a game changer

[@StanOfGB]

It already has been by JB4

[@Youcallthesebagels_]

@@StanOfGB yeah and it isn’t impressive with jb4, still slower than a stock s4

[@StanOfGB]

@@Youcallthesebagels_ Who's got the video? There's video of dragy runs of a JB4 type S

[@Superdimensional]

@@StanOfGB not just a boost controller a real tune. Ktuner has unlocked it, so it should be tuned in short order

[@Superdimensional]

@@Youcallthesebagels_ fake news

[@sunfiend]

It is insanity he keeps racing the TLX S expecting a different result. It is simply not a drag racer. Much too heavy. We all know this. It is still an awesome car and if you have twists and turns, then this vehicle will shine. Just not in a straightaway.

[@elenchus]

it won the drag race despite the other car being heavily tuned (making over 50% more horsepower)

[@augustortiz]

I doubt it would shine in corners considering its insanely heavy for what it is.

[@malrich5276]

@@augustortiz I believe its already been shown that the handling for it is above alot of its competitors regardless of its weight

[@jamesrutkowski7222]

So if it’s not a drag racer and it’s also as heavy as a rhinoceros. What is it? TLX was a failure from the get go. This proves it.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

Correct, the Type S isn't a drag racer, and on a track it beat the competition like the Genesis G70 and Stinger GT. SH-AWD is really meant for acceleration while cornering.

[@kongxiong6005]

The type S has way more potential.

[@mattkroening7964]

Don't you think you're stating the obvious a bit? It's a 3.0t V6 vs a 1.5t 4cyl. I would hope it to have a lot more headroom

[@kongxiong6005]

@@mattkroening7964 ok...that's like saying this video is pointless...tell that to the author who made this video.

[@mattkroening7964]

@@kongxiong6005 that literally makes no sense, but ok. Showing that a civic with a few mods is capable of taking a much more expensive (stock) car isn't pointless. Pointing out the more expensive car has more potential is pointless, because it's obvious.

[@kongxiong6005]

@@mattkroening7964 You just contradicted yourself. Go waste other people time

[@OrionsSmelt]

No shit captain obvious. “Wow that c43 AMG got more potential than that base camry” lmao

[@harveymushman4190]

Do you guys turn the brightness down on all your videos when you upload them?

[@7g6_66]

Great video… everyone loves to hate on the cvt but dam ngl that cvt hauls ass hahah

[@danhornaday7319]

Damn dude. You have a whole series on what beats the TLX...

[@SamCarLegion]

That's what people want to watch.

[@Ih8chew]

All respect I could’ve had for this car went out the window when they posted that video where a Kia K5 dusted the Type S from a roll.

[@danhornaday7319]

@@Ih8chew can't sleep on the k5 though. It's way underrated.

[@Ih8chew]

@@danhornaday7319 no doubt, the K5 is a sleeper. It’s also in the same segment as the Camry. The fact that it smoked the Type S from a roll when the Type S is supposed to be in the same segment as the S4, G70, m340i is beyond pathetic.

[@danhornaday7319]

@@Ih8chew I agree. I was super excited about this car until I saw these videos.

[@chaztitan6457]

If u mod the engine and change the peak hp rpm. How do change the cvt to acknowledge this change?

[@kiastingergt2231]

Have the type S run a ktuned 2.0 accord.

[@chinafukr69kack31]

Promising for the integra type s with a tune

[@GreyMK7Jet]

Does the civic have replaced rods? Asking because even at those numbers, I’ve seen 3 come to my dealer with a blown motor trying to be go fast boys(full bolt on and tune). 2 were CVT and one was a Si… maybe money shifted lol but i know there are way more cases out there. I’m just asking because I hope the owner is prepared for when it happens. Rods are a big weak point in the 1.5T

[@2Step_garage]

i think he already replaced the rods , because the boost pressure is so high

[@MrSamPhoenix]

The owner of the Civic had to have replaced the connecting rods of the 1.5L. He’s making a lot of power with it blowing up.

[@Eugen-E]

MAPerformance had a 10 Gen Si with stock engine with over 500hp and the engine was ok even if they had A LOT of dyno and drag strip runs. Rods are not weak at all.

[@2Step_garage]

@@Eugen-E this 1.5T civic is not Si version , CVT transmission has different connecting rods & pistons compare to si

[@Eugen-E]

@@2Step_garage You said about a blown Si too.

[@michaelsantosuosso7284]

SLAP A JB4 BURGER TUNE ON THE TSX S AND ITS A BEAST. 400 WHP 420 WTQ

[@NOBODY-hj6qd]

It’s like what’s the point of getting tlx type S

[@googlewolly]

The Type S is too expensive for the power that you get. It'll be much more reliable than any BMW or Audi, though - or any domestic. Also, it looks great. Anyway, good video. You really should list the mods on the Civic, though. I assume full bolt-ons and an aftermarket turbo. Also, a tune, of course.

[@ABQSentinel]

Speaking as someone who just bought a Type S, it's precisely because I wanted the mix of luxury, power, and reliability. Besides, dealers are charging $20K over MSRP for the Type R. It definitely isn't worth that.

[@googlewolly]

@@ABQSentinel The Type S is still overpriced. And the Type R mark-ups are ridiculous, yes. People shouldn't support such practices.

[@ABQSentinel]

@@googlewolly How do you figure it's over-priced? The nearest BWM or Audi sedan with similar performance and luxury is $10K more and doesn't have as good of reliability. The Lexus IS350 is cheaper, but by the time you put in the optional stereo to match was comes standard in a Type S, you're within a couple of thousand and the Type S will smoke an IS350. The IS500 has a bit better performance, but is also $10K more (dat V8 though!). So please tell me what the comparable vehicle would be that is not "overpriced."

[@googlewolly]

@@ABQSentinel The acceleration isn't enough for what they're asking. It's as simple as that. And this is coming from someone who won't buy anything other than Honda/Acura or Toyota/Lexus.

[@VERY_RAREQ50RS]

Be careful for TLX type s with a jb4 tune that thing gaps stock 5.0, scat packs and SS Camaros

[@RaY_77W]

And a tuned e30 335i

[@RaY_77W]

I’ve only seen the 335i, the c5 corvette, and the mustang tho, I wanna see the SS and scat pack pls

[@IReahpZz]

@@RaY_77W scat would eat it on a roll.

[@jax9074]

Maybe an older manual 5.0 and its not going to "gap" it. Its definitely not going to touch a newer one, especially the a10, not even close

[@Tsand4]

😂😂 bullshit let’s see a video of jb4 type s gapping stock 5.0 (a new one) scat pack or a SS Camaro…

[@TheSeaviper]

What kind of wheels are on the type s?

[@TonyStone3000]

Please tell me you know what unsprung weight is? I cringed when I heard you say that 5 pounds per wheel isn't much because the car is so heavy.

[@ransessanchez4304]

can you tell me what things that civic has modified because it does run

[@dodoubleg2356]

Can anyone explain to me how a 1spd trans. works pls?? Is it as simple as it sounds, just 1 tall gear that never shifts? 🤔

[@OldTripleSix]

belt tranny, it's a CVT.

[@yyyyyy8155]

Yes 1 powerband

[@yyyyyy8155]

Kinda like a power glider that only has 2 gears

[@daryltang17]

Doesn't the CVT have sports paddles and can manually stimulate the gears in S mode?

[@YoPierrrr]

Some civic cvt’s do, this one doesn’t

[@anthonyeasley3268]

Let’s seee the fusion sport ‼️

[@dannybishop68]

That TLX needs a tune bad. It would be a monster with it.

[@oscarmj81]

I’m shocked the cvt is still running well. Are the accords and civic cvts the same or different?

[@brokentradgedy]

They're both ass....but you can see that his torque is tuned way down low because anything over 240 wtq will blow the CVT

[@austinreynaud1190]

He doesn't own the car anymore

[@kevincunningham5828]

The accord has a 10-speed automatic

[@bryancarlson2705]

The civic EX weighs-in around 2900 pounds. Minus 14 pounds for bro with a carbon fiber hood, he gains a solid 0.95 hp.

[@bryancarlson2705]

…on a 4200 pound TLX sh-awd the “mass effect” of said 14 pound is trivial

[@La-yt1wr]

I always knew that 1.5 has a lot of potential but wow it even beat the new 3.0t.

[@SAT1337]

Yea with a tune. JB4 that type S and it will smoke even the Audi S4.

[@BCautosolutions]

@@Youcallthesebagels_ I’ve been 12.4 no tune just downpipe, port matched tb and drop in filter and NO TUNE! Once Ktuner out and we can actually tune the car properly 11s will come very easily

[@MrSamPhoenix]

It’s the weight difference of the two cars. The Acura TL Type-S is extremely heavy compared to the Honda Civic. Put the same drivetrain from the Civic into the Type-S & you’ll see a definite difference in speed.

[@oririona5462]

@@SAT1337 with a tune it will smoke the S4 but stock vs stock the S4 would eat the type S for dinner I’m not an Audi fanboy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SAT1337]

@@oririona5462 Save your breath. We’ve all moved past that. Stock the car is underpowered and overweight. We get it, but it’s still a great car and heck of a lot more reliable and standout than a generic German car or Honda for that matter.

[@priapicpear4200]

I got a hopped up R/T charger that I gapped a type S in. I still REALLY want a Acura. No lying how cool those cars are. And even though I have my dream car, i still pine over Acura cars

[@meshamotorsport8118]

Civic Spec modifications?

[@sea5023]

what tune does the civic have?

[@midengineZ06]

Why didn't Honda put the 8 SPD DCT from the ILX?

[@yolovegas1499]

can the cvt handle that power? those transmissions seem to all be shit

[@Hectorszenshopedc]

Killer topic Broski

[@Joseph.11]

So now we know the new Integra TYPE S will be faster than the TLX SH-AWD

[@leonbaptiste2272]

Imagine putting that tuned engine in the manual integra

[@mikeb7258]

How to you know that? The Integra type s will likely come with the 2.0 with 272hp. That motor is in the Accord and the TLX type s beats it (Sam has a video on it). Granted the Accord 2.0 will likely be heavier than the Integra type-s, but even if you look at the 2021 Civic type R (has the 2.0 with 305 hp), its a driver's race between that and the TLX type s. C&D shows the number for both cars and they are very close (type R is 0.1s faster to 60 and 0.3 sec faster in the quarter mile). The math doesn't support your claim. Do your homework before saying that you KNOW something.

[@leonbaptiste2272]

@@mikeb7258 lol you’re right they’re not going to put the integra type S to be faster than the tlx type S unless you tune it yourself. It might be around the same power as the civic type R

[@mikeb7258]

@@leonbaptiste2272 this guy is just trolling or not thinking. Oh well. It’s fun to discredit the troll’s claims and fun to educate the dummies.

[@Joseph.11]

@@mikeb7258 If this is just a tuned 1.5 civic then I'm sure the civic Si will give the TLX-Type S a run and once we tune new integra type s and trim some weight it will be faster IMO... Neither one of our statements are actually factually until the cars hit the track & that's just my IMO.

[@anthonyeasley3268]

Fusion sport race‼️

[@Roberto-ih3zx]

how much can the honda cvt handle? thank you

[@marlonbaird6070]

About 350nm

[@bkw322]

Stock internals at 30psi?

[@beb1527]

What mods? I have an Integra reserved, and this video gives me hope!

[@bkrakerpepper5732]

Stage 2 accord 2.0 vs type s?

[@XAMPOL]

A stock 2.0T already delivered the smoke to this type S

[@arshamarshuu637]

@@XAMPOL r u lost,??? This type S embarrassed the stock accord. You are thinking of the regular TLX

[@XAMPOL]

@@arshamarshuu637 Yes i am, thought the Type S got smoked by the accord in the previous vid but it was an A-Spec that got smoked lmao

[@LearningFast]

Kind of crazy that you call the TLX “Stock” with SIGNIFICANTLY lighter wheels and a “Straight pipe exhaust”. Lighter wheels offer MUCH less rotational mass especially for large diameter wheels. That alone increases acceleration significantly. A true straight pipe exhaust on a turbo car will matter too. Then you don’t even mention what is done to the Civic. You just say it has an “Impressive wrap”. That is something that truly doesn’t matter for acceleration.

[@BCautosolutions]

He said 5lbs per wheel I think that’s 20 total pounds which is less then the 6 lbs the y spokes weigh less over the multi spokes. Also the car in sport + mode bypasses the muffler and is essentially straight pipe so his “mods” really didn’t alter much if anything

[@LearningFast]

@@BCautosolutions nothing of what you said is accurate. 5 pounds of rotational mass per wheel is EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT. Learn what rotational mass means. It is much more significant for acceleration than static weight. Also “Sport plus mode” does NOT equal straight piped. That statement is just absurd.

[@BCautosolutions]

@@LearningFast stock wheels vs 20lbs total weight lighter wheels equals to insignificant 0-60 and 1/4 changes, there’s plenty videos proving this. And again one can achieve this by simply purchasing the optional y spoke wheels which actually lose 6lbs per corner. On a road course prob see a difference in a drag race most likely not. Also I take it you never looked at an exhaust of a type s so you lack of understanding here isn’t surprising

[@MrSamPhoenix]

4,000 pounds is still 4,000 pounds. The TLX Type-S is still too heavy even with the lighter wheels. & the better exhaust isn’t going to give it crazy amounts of extra power.

[@LearningFast]

@@BCautosolutions you’re wrong. Just simply wrong. Yes, absolutely the stock exhaust bypasses the muffler and that doesn’t improve performance. However, he said this is a “straight piped exhaust”. That would mean it bypasses EVERYTHING in the exhaust. That would make a SIGNIFICANT difference. Perhaps he said straight piped but didn’t actually mean that. That is one thing. However, if it truly is straight piped then you certainly can’t call that car “stock”.

[@ransesandino757]

SAN CAR LEGION... CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE CIVIC HAS OUTFIT PLEASE

[@JohnCena-jb3yp]

Small brother vs Big brother. Big brother won dig and small brother won roll... 2 for 2 a tie

[@AgonxOC]

Holy crap, the owner of the Civic has bawls to put that much power on a CVT! Ha!

[@bongboyz6468]

CVT's suck but Honda's in-house CVT is the best out of any brand inducing Toyota when it comes to performance

[@AgonxOC]

@@bongboyz6468 still, talk about lessening the life of the box! They aren’t designed for crazy numbers of torque. I hope the owner has a few thousands for the replacement. I find it amazing still though! Hopefully I am wrong and this thing will last.

[@bongboyz6468]

@@AgonxOC I definitely agree with you, CVT's are not meant for this abuse but it's pretty entertaining to watch 😂

[@Formalite]

@@bongboyz6468 Ive had a very different experience getting any sort of performance out of my CVT lol

[@bongboyz6468]

@@Formalite oh bro I'm not saying CVT's are good at performance at all. They suck. All of them suck. Honda just does it the best is what I mean 😂

[@oscarkabowski8413]

The TLX is more of a replacement for the Legend or RLX(?). The thing is literally too big and heavy to be marketed as a "fast" car.

[@bongboyz6468]

CVT's suck but Honda's in-house CVT is the best CVT ever made

[@LuisGonzalez-227]

Great race, all the type S boys are getting defensive in the comments talking about tunes and the future bolt ons 😂

[@ClubZlut]

... But all the other boosted 6s it competes with also respond really well to tunes lol

[@StanOfGB]

@@ClubZlut This one would be reliable

[@ClubZlut]

@@StanOfGB None of the others have shown themselves to be particularly unreliable, either. I have little doubt most of them will get through the first owner or first lease just fine and most people buying this kind of car, I don't know of any trying to hold on to it for more than like.. 5-7 years.

[@combustionengineforever7734]

@@ClubZlut lol,

[@RaY_77W]

No one is mad, they are both Hondas

[@myxalplyx]

Great race!

[@MG-oy8mo]

Tuned 2.0T Accord vs TLX Type S ? We need it

[@trevyrgeronimo5020]

I’m surprised a 1.5 and the cvt can handle that much boost

[@XAMPOL]

Probably won't for long, especially that cvt

[@TheBreakfastLover]

Easy win for the Type S from a dig. On a track, the Type S even beat the G70 3.3TT and the Stinger GT (see Car & Driver's Lightning Lap). The Acura is more of a track car than a drag racer. Lightning Lap Times Car&Driver... Type S 3:06.7 G70 3:07.3 Stinger 3:11.6

[@RaY_77W]

Yup

[@neekjp]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RaY_77W]

@@Youcallthesebagels_ correct

[@TheBreakfastLover]

@@Youcallthesebagels_ operative words: "more of a". The point is that the Acura beats key competitors on a track, despite losing in straight line drag races. It's a more complete performance vehicle.

[@RaY_77W]

@@TheBreakfastLover in that area correct

[@AcuraPerformance]

I'll race the new TLX type-s or the Accord turbo. Let me know if any owners are up for it.

[@ravenstylea2]

CVTs are a blight on the automotive universe.

[@dragonfire1554]

But but my muh mpg savings

[@smailmilak]

CVT with 300 hp? How is that possible?

[@adamh2129]

You should bring g37 on channel

[@djhrjeiwhri]

How can honda makes the limit of this cvt is so high????

[@Accordx_2.0]

Sam are you still planning a 2.0 vs Maxima at some point? 🔥

[@SamCarLegion]

Yes

[@sabbathoneseveneight8643]

Someone, please tell me the need for FWD. What's the advantage?

[@yyyyyy8155]

The advantage of front wheel drive is call drive train drag Awd- drags like 45% from power distribution to each individual wheel Rwd-drags like 30% due to the power distribution from the transmission thru the drive shaft to the tires. Fwd-drag like 15% since the transmission sit's closes to the tires it's inverting the power too and only has to go thru a pair of Cv axles so it a big weight advantage on power distribution compared to the other methods of power distribution. Hope this helps👋

[@victormelendez4669]

Pretty impress with that race

[@lemongrabracing71]

honda should not have CVT anymore. it's nice and all but if they want a sporty civic aside the type R and SI it needs to be beefyer

[@quet1982]

Can you make a Subaru STI video…..?

[@RaY_77W]

It’s 355bhp Sam*

[@SamCarLegion]

Correct

[@DaBiggess4]

A better race wouldve been the 2021 acrua tlx a spec vs that tuned civic 1.5t cvt

[@Ganbala]

Good but I take the TLX ...

[@atemegabites2251]

Why not race the type r , I dont see this even being a even race to begin with smh

[@ryanbazan5016]

I been impressed by these tuned 1.5 civics

[@OleMisss]

As bad as CVTs are Honda does seem to have the best one out at the moment.

[@Tyler-K]

straight pipe on the type s?? lmao sounds way too quiet

[@thisisntsergio1352]

Can't wait until the Acura is tuned.

[@starcraftgod1212123]

i have a '17 cvt hatch with 68k miles and im getting CEL's out the ass, and my CVT is slipping like crazy. and i havnt even tuned it like this video its gross

[@wendellmotton4982]

What has he done to it? What is his social media???

[@SamCarLegion]

Tha batmobile

[@bertlom]

Amazing tuned civic1 .5t can beat acura 3.0 v6 from roll racing.

[@Porsche4life]

The cool thing is with the cvt the car is always in boost

[@ekomz2526]

Can do you a race with QX70

[@dragonfire1554]

No replacement for displacement

[@dodoubleg2356]

I'm not sure if you're just hurting for content, but I wish you'd stop racing "tuned" cars. It's not an accurate representation of what most people are drivin' off the lot. Or, have a 2nd channel devoted to racing tuned cars loaded w/mods & bolt-ons.

[@chiaxiong8739]

If it was a civic type R the type S wouldn't stand a chance

[@13bangbang16]

First video ive watched where the acura doesnt lose lol.