2022 KTM 300 XC-W vs Electric KTM Freeride E-XC | Off Road Test

Tucker Neary from Electric Cycle Rider does a head to head comparison of the new 2022 KTM 300 XC-W vs the KTM Freeride E-XC on a singletrack test track in Colorado.
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The 2022 KTM 300 XC-W is the ultimate rocky mountain dirt bike and has been a staple in the KTM lineup for years. The 2022 KTM features a 300 cc 2-stroke fuel-injected engine that creates loads of torque. The 300 XC-W is commonly regarded as the best bike for hard enduro in extreme off road conditions.
The KTM Freeride E-XC electric dirt bike weighs 250 pounds and has a peak power output of 18Kw. The Freeride has 43mm WP Xplor forks and a PDS rear shock. The modifications to the Freeride E-XC in this video is a Nihilo Concepts oversized brake kit and rotor, Full Factory suspension, Shinko tires and an XC Gear Mako 360.
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[@theirishaxe9405]

Can we see a comparison that's isn't about how fast you do a lap? Like what compare hill climbs, sections of hard trail ect to see what the electric can do, or even do better than the 300 ? Also I've noticed that you end up going alot faster on an electric than you notice because your brain is used to hearing revs

[@pjmr666]

Have both a 300 tpi and a 350 freeride. The nimblenes of the freeride is awesome. Alot eazyer to ride in tight terrain and way more fun to ride slow.

[@firebladex8586]

@@pjmr666 and no shifting - that has to count for something

[@joeyholthusen6495]

Plus going the distance!

[@mickjager5974]

No. Next question.....jk!

[@Yzrej.]

I wish

[@t_c5266]

Imagine riding for 45 minutes and then your day is over

[@bruzza1]

With the seats they have lucky if you can even ride that long I like the old school bike seats nice and soft

[@bruzza1]

I know what you mean we used to fill it up and ride for 5 hours back in the day late 80 ties

[@ehilter]

Bring more petrol.

[@t_c5266]

@@ehilter for the generator to charge the bike for the next 10 hours?

[@ehilter]

@@t_c5266 Either that, ride closer to where there is electricity, get a second battery or don't pick an electric bike for conditions it's not (yet at least) suitable for.

[@shredmas]

A couple of things I'd like to point out. Where I usually ride in Southern Oregon, it's much tighter and steeper with more rocky terrain. Think more hard enduro/trials, 8 miles takes us 2 hours or more not including break time in some of the areas. Also the group I've been riding with are all in our mid 60's. So 3-4 hours is about all we can handle. The group includes a 2021 EM Escape, Two guys on 2020 Freeride E s, a heavily modified Sur-Ron & me on my modified 2010 Zero MXE. Which BTW with the battery I built goes farther (runs longer) then any of the bikes in the group. And weighs 140lbs. I've ridden 3 hours and the Freeride E will still have 60% of it's battery in this type of terrain. But if I go to say Reno, NV and ride desert then much shorter ride time (range) of course. Now one of my friends after getting and riding his Freeride E has sold his 300 XC, Husky 150 & his KTM 500 EXC. So much less maintenance. Just plug and play for the most part. So I guess my point is depending on your age (imagine yourself at 68 years old) on tighter more technical trails then the electrics become much more attractive and the range is not as much is any of an issue. I haven't ridden either of my YZ's in months LOL. Tucker, thank you for all you do on your channel.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Neal Peters Thanks for the note Neal! Sounds like you've got an awesome group to ride with, hope to make it out that way sometime. That 2010 MXE you have is quite a rare bike at this point! 👍

[@shredmas]

@@ElectricCycleRider Yes and I have a 2009 XE with a 48v pack I made that's 2.9kwh. My 2010 MXE battery is 3.1kwh @52v.

[@Negern91]

Thank you for your insightful comment! I'm curious about the Electric motion escape since I'm on my way to buy one. I usually only ride very tehcnical (low speed) stuff in the forest and in the mountains, and because of that it's my main choice since it seems like the most nimble bike with decent range out of the box. A "pure" dirtbike is what I have used before and it feels very big and heavy for the type of riding I do. Going tha same path I have more fun on my little 14inch wheeled 125cc four stroke pitbike just because it's so much more nimble compared to the fullsize Honda 250f, ktm 450 etc that I have ridden before. How do you see it from your perspective who sees all the e-bikes bikes togheter? Does the Escape or maybe the epure seem like a good choice for what I am doing?🤔. Best regards from Sweden.

[@shredmas]

@@Negern91 If you have ridden a trails bike, the Escape will feel right at home. For me some bar risers and maybe a different bend would be helpful. I'm 6'2". Also some more seat padding. Check out the video on that at the YT page mentioned here. If you haven't seen this YT channel then it's a must for that bike. kzbin.info/door/L-Ez0zEskCZKb-AzsUmI7gvideos. As a side note. Range in mixed tight single track and flowing two track is about as follows. KTM 25 miles with 5 miles of reserve, Sur-Ron & EM Escape 20 miles with 5 miles of reserve & my Zero MXE 30 miles 5 miles of reserve. Obviously if riding aggressive MX or desert high speed with hills run times would be much less.

[@Negern91]

@@shredmas This is super helpful to me, I really really appreciate the time you took to write a thorough answer! Thanks alot!

[@fortnerbuiltmotorsports444]

I’m just amazed e is able to talk through this much of a ride.

[@TannerJanesky]

These videos are fantastic. Thank you!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Tanner Janesky Thanks! 👍

[@northsandiegorc4248]

Excellent review as always!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@NorthSanDiegoRC Thanks 🙌

[@pmgmotorcycles]

Great Video! Thanks for sharing.

[@troymartinez7343]

I love the sound on the ebike whining up - Thanks man!

[@stephenbrown5844]

Fantastic thanks for the footage

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Stephen Brown 👍

[@jacalnan]

Great test thanks! I look forward to the day the range is not an issue.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@His Eminence Same here!

[@lemmontree1]

Awesome video! No need to apologize, super interesting test!

[@elihamou6902]

Very thorough test. Thank you. The fact that you were within 3 seconds says alot about the ebike!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@eli hamou No doubt! Thanks for the note.

[@JoshuaCussins]

2019 tx300 with Lectron Carburetor is only 217lbs. Love mine. No hiccups, can still adjust my fuel ratio. Great video definitely love my 300 aswell

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Dirt Bike Repair Definitely! The Lectron carbs are a great mod, keeps the bike simple and seem to run great. 👍

[@jamiesmith6838]

Another great vid! Thx👊

[@fizzymark]

Fantastic comparison. I’m 53 and been riding dirt bikes from 4 years old. I love riding 500 2 stroke & 450 4stroke bikes. Very different but both have their pluses and bonuses. You are not biased towards either bike in this. There’s a lot of that with 2 stroke and 4 stroke bikes. They are all dirt bikes. Great fun to ride and that’s what it’s all about. Everyone who love dirt bikes should just love them for the riding. Each one different in their own way. I have always hated the thought of electric bikes but electric is clearly easier to ride. Very fast too. I would always miss the smell,sound and power band of conventional combustion bikes though. You’re a pro on these vids. Great riding too. We’ll done you. Thanks for making a proper comparison video. You can’t do this with 2 separate riders. 💪💪

[@mxengineer1]

Another great video! Always fun to do back to back lap times between bikes! 2-strokes vs 4-strokes, 125's vs 350's vs 300's, and electric vs gas. Lap times are a great way to compare the overall performance of different bikes. I am still amazed that a Freeride which is a hybrid trials/woods bike with shorter woods focused suspension and chassis is so close in lap times and often in my comparisons a few seconds quicker than my gas powered bikes on a 3~7 minute trail loop. The KTM 300 2-stroke is such a well developed bike and the Freeride E-XC development was basically completed back around 2014 and the bike has changed little since. How do you measure the stealth factor and how cool it is to be in the woods on an quiet electric bike?:)

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@mxengineer1 Thanks! For sure. It's fun to see how they stack up. As you know, the stealth factor on the E-XC is unbeatable! 👍

[@thehyperenewed]

Great video!

[@laddjohnson2576]

I have a 2021 300 XCW and love it. Added a TSP kit with ECU remap and really like the torque increase across the powerband. Best dirt bike I've ever owned.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Ladd Johnson Awesome, I'll check that out. They're great dirt bikes for sure.

[@drewgolden9951]

i got an 07 300 xc carb life baby 😂 love it tho 165 jet for winter and 162 for summer

[@cmbscx1084]

Great video. Awesome comparison. Though the E-XC is expensive now, once the range goes up i bet the price will come down and there will be a ton sold.

[@chadlegault9993]

Love these tests!!!!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Chad Legault 👍👍

[@toyotabogger]

I love smashing through the gears and the noise can't beat that

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Dean Desautels There is still something to be said for the feel you get on a gas bike, without question!

[@bravo20ghost27]

Great video, thank you.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Bravo20 Ghost 👍Thanks

[@tribefpv]

These tests you do are awesome mate and yes here in Australia 🇦🇺 distance is everything between drinks. I'm keen on a new bike but just keep putting it off because I cannot decide 😅 Luv how you mod your bikes , cheers 🍻 for sharing

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

Awesome video! What is the average run time on the Ktm freeride exc? Like the riding done in this video for example? I love my KTM XCW 2-stroke lol

[@freerangecitizen]

Fun! I’m not gonna buy one but I’ve been watching the tech evolve and enjoying people’s reactions to the electric bikes. I Love the KTM 300. Thanks for the vid, good info.

[@TwistedTriggerEnduro]

Thanks for doing the test. The electric probably feels much quicker because it had low down grunt and punch. Can't wait to get range on an electric so I can add that to videos I make. Much respect, keep doing what your doing!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Twisted Trigger Appreciate it! We can't wait too!

[@daffyduck9901]

20 minutes on Full Tilt Boogie

[@aaronkent76]

Keep being curious, unless ur racing, those times are close. Love ur video content thank you

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Aaron Kent Thanks Aaron! Close times for sure. We'll keep trying.

[@samholcombe3129]

Wow I’m surprised too, to me it seemed like you were same speed basically on both bikes in the tight stuff, but on the straights the E seemed to be going a lot faster. It so awesome that E bikes have evolved into competitive with top tier gas bikes, and surly that trend will continue. I’ve been bikeless for far too many years now and am looking to get back on one, tbh I don’t know how they compare price wise and that’s a big issue for my budget. I’m going straight to google after this to learn the specs on Freeride and pricing vs my old standard YZ250 2 stroke which I’ve had a few from 87, 94 and a couple 2000+. 94 was my favorite, probably because I put the most money into it. Really fantastic video though, you have a new sub, thank random algorithms lol.

[@nicholasmaill9572]

I'm in lockdown here, so I just enjoyed going for a 20 minute ride with you. I currently ride a 350EXCF which is think is the perfect 'old man's bike'. I'm just waiting until the range of the e-bike matches my own endurance as I get older!!

[@deadly134]

I have to agree the electric is appealing to me but the range is not so much for an older rider that likes to go distance not technical.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Nicholas Maill Thanks! Hope you're out of that lockdown and riding now.

[@The1stHomosapien]

go out you sheep

[@thelonelymotorbikeradventu3524]

Nice video 👍. I like foot brake’s too. I made one my moped back in the day’s. It took a bit of welding I remember.

[@philbarrett3739]

I love 💘 how impartial your reviews are. It's a very rare trait on KZbin.

[@Madtigertv]

Impartial? Ive never seen a bigger KTM schill in my life lol

[@Yoda-em5mt]

Yes but ktm are the best all round quality handling and power.

[@Madtigertv]

lmao

[@Yoda-em5mt]

@@Madtigertv whats better i have ridden ktm for a long long time and its not just because ktm is my initials, ha ha .

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Phil Barrett Thank you! 👍

[@jasonbrown467]

i just built an electric bicycle that has pretty big power at 120v at 22ah, or 72v at 44ah, or 44v at 66ah. i freaking love it, and it still looks like a bicycle so i can blend in or hit trails like the one in the video. love this stuff

[@silvervine6823]

I Recommend the Coober ECU on your 300.I have a 2021 300 and wow, it really improved throttle response. You’re gonna love it.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@silver vine68 Awesome, I will check them out! Thanks for the heads up.

[@cbc76am]

@@ElectricCycleRider I did the sliber turbo ECU mapping with an s3 head on my 21 gasgas ex300 and have similar comments. It makes the bike run far stronger and cleaner across the board, no pipe bang, lean sputter and I barley use map 1 now on mtn trail riding.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@@cbc76am Awesome, I'll check it out.

[@cygnus6623]

As a mainly street rider, I haven't looked into off-road riding in years. I just found this yesterday! Wow! Where have I been... I grew up I the NW on Enduro bikes. I recently got a DR-Z400SM to bridge the gap back to some off-roading. That said, I was also surprised in the results. I though the electric with its quick torque would have done better. The 300 is most certainly made of a much more open track, where it can be opened up into its power range. It will be fun someday to go to a race and only here the whine the electrics tearing up the track!!!!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Cygnus Great points! 👍

[@tombledsoe8880]

I enjoyed your test. While the electric free ride seem to perform quite well in a three minute loop I’m not sure what was really proven here? The 300 is a full on competition race bike. The free ride is not it is for free riding. That being said I’m quite surprised how close it was to the 300 in your test. I think it says much more for your riding ability and the tightness of the track than it does for a bike comparison. My question to you is if you had an hour just to go mess around on a motorcycle having fun not trying to ride fast just enjoying riding which bike would you choose? In that scenario what kind of range have you seen? Thanks again for your tests as I appreciate them!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Tom Bledsoe Thanks! Not really much to prove in this video honestly. Just my own curiosity between the two bikes. That's a great question about which bike I'd prefer to ride. I think it would depend on the day. I do switch between the 2T, 4T and E pretty regularly and I love them all for their own characteristics. I don't mean to take the easy way out of your question but it would depend on the day and the terrain for me. If I could only own one bike though, I would definitely stick with the 300 at this point. Appreciate the note 👍

[@robbykruyer7124]

Hey mate what lap timer are you using? Love the vid

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@robby KRUYER Thanks man! I'm using the LITPro GPS tracking device. It's a pretty cool piece of gear for recording lap times.

[@marcstlaurent3719]

one thing about a foot brake is many years ago I put a recluse auto clutch on my bike which I did lots of hill climbing in the foothills and lack of footbrake made it hard to turn bike around on a super steep hill if you did not make it and having rear wheel freewheeling , I also had trouble initially reaching for rear brake first after many years of riding I could not break that habit .

[@liberty-matrix]

Used to have a KTM 420 and with those straight seats, my inner thighs would be killing me from squeezing the seat all day. But it was always worth it!

[@vaughnburrows]

I avoided an accident yesterday on a narrow trail because I heard a guy coming on his motorcycle and I was able to pull my atv over enough so that he could see me as he came around the corner and he was going pretty fast. If he was on an electric I would not have heard him.

[@2pi628]

People will transition to wearing 360 degree strobes on their helmets. And possible some type of siren. WHEN everyone is riding elecetric(in ten years or so) This issue will not be an issue. It will work itself out.

[@gear323]

Maybe a Bluetooth app of some sort is the answer

[@bryden_smith]

Or keep the gassers way better in my opinion can’t beat the sound of a 2t

[@Yoda-em5mt]

It won't work itself out it will just give e bikes a bad name same as motos have now. It's not the bike being a d--k head its the rider and e bikes already attract lets say another level of dumb f--k. I ride mtb and ktm 200 and know a few ebike riders and all are fu---ing stupid how they ride, how fast they go past people and there sever lack of skill .

[@zaneullman2543]

Awesome comparison! I’ve been looking for this for a long time so thanks for churning it out! Regarding lap times, E bikes are the newcomer but two stroke dirt bikes have been optimized over the past 60 years! In five years I’m sure they’ll be trick new electronics on electric dirt bikes that will blow away what we have today.

[@SL4US]

I doubt it. For an electric to be competitive in this market its gotta be light, powerful enough, and enough battery life (especially if competing in single track, enduro scene) all in 1 package. I font see that for dirtbikes in the foreseeable future

[@Mark_conor]

@@SL4US battery will never work offroad brother too long to charge range etc thats why 100 years ago they stop making battery cars. Im not sure why they starting this bs again.

[@MRALEX9870]

in 5 years they're gonna completely forget the idea of an electric dirtbike They cant ever be properly optimized to compete in motocross Do you know how much they refuel during long race events?

[@roschanvargonay9820]

@@MRALEX9870 And why not doing the refueling by swapping the battery?

[@DAVINCIEVO]

I own a 2007 KTM 300 (beast), a 2023 Rieju MR 300 and a KTM e-XC. The E bike is up to the task in almost every situation except for brutal power. I really, really love the rear brake on the hand. Another beautiful thing is that other people in the forest dont look mad at you. Obviously, for masive adrenaline, a 300 2T is unbeatable. But the E-bike is surprisingly good and fun. I really enjoy the 3 bikes. Greatings from Spain. Very good videos.

[@ebaccphoto]

Didn’t you do a 2’52” on the other comparison on the e-ride? Love your comparison btw! Also what is the range on the Eride? Thanks

[@pewpewmoto]

These are so freaking COOL. I want one!!!!!

[@ark6959]

I have no intention to get another dirt bike but that 300…so sick! I’m curious how much the foot brake would help your lap times on the free ride. Hope you are well, Tucker!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Introvert Adventurer For sure!! Waiting on covid delayed parts still! Good to hear from you.

[@ark6959]

@@ElectricCycleRider you too! Thanks for making great vids!

[@caseymaze]

Some more interesting data that you could add would be Heart Rate, Perceived Fatigue post riding each, any arm pump or other physical differences, dba levels and just general audio from 100 yds away (have a buddy film you going through different sections since this is becoming a MAJOR driving force with dirt bikes in and around residential areas), actual run time capacity (30 min? 1 Hour?), what about letting the motor cool between battery swaps (if that's even a thing), Weight differences, Center of mass.....Super cool to see the actual riding and hear the lap time differences, but I'd love to hear more about the perceived effort comparison and the HR data. Thanks, vids are rad!

[@toddjacobs5660]

How long does the charge last on a hard enduro race, will it hold up ?

[@petecochrane1782]

How does the Free Ride do on the road? Can this bike be fitted with working paddles? Thx.

[@timking130]

Thanks for doing the comparison. Do you not have to change gears?

[@Liedaho]

No mixing gas, no dirty power valve to chip clean, and no oil changes. Sounds awesome.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@john barton Those are definitely some of the positives to electric dirt bikes!

[@jackhaddad2470]

you dont mix gas on a tpi anyway

[@Jangocat]

Theory and practical application are two different things.

[@abinadvd]

Make a race on a real motocross track with a little water. After 10 mn your electric bike will say "Thank you, i go home. Have you power to reload for next race ?". Electrics bikes are here for fun on little tracks and short races. Never , nerver they will beat a 250 4 strockes on a 25 mn race. If you increase battery , you will have weight problem and money problems. Can you imagine an electric bike on a 450 mxgp ? They don't have the energy for a race. Power valve to clean ? You have to clean them less 1 time each year or the problem is not here. You clean them when you change the piston, nothing else. You are not green ! You make a race. Replacing a battery pack each year is not fun for money.

[@davidrsmith2417]

The future is closer than we think! I took a 2021 Zero XF 7.2kWH dual-sport on a too brief demo ride that was only 7 city miles - no offroad (ugh) on Oct 30, 2021. That bike had 21" and 18" laced wheels, 78 ft-lb of torque and 46HP (34kW). That much torque and HP on that small bike is amazing, so hold on really tight! Showa 41mm iinverted cartridge forks, fully adjustable (FA), Showa 40mm piston FA shock, Bosch brakes. The lighter 3.6kWH version of the FX weighs 247 lbs wet but the 7.2 kWH version that I rode weighs 289 lbs wet and cost about $11,600. **** Comparing: the KTM Freeride has WP 43mm FA inverted forks and a WP FA rear shock which also features adjustable high speed compression! The motor offers 31 ft-lbs and 24HP (18kW max), the bike is 247 lbs wet. With importation costs rising every day since April 2020 (pandemic related supply blockages greatly delay inbound shipping), the 2021 Freeride E-XC last year cost USA buyers about $11,200.

[@contrastprinciple4389]

The brakes would have been no big deal to me, since I already mountain bike. Liked the sense of thrust that the ebike had, and as an adrenaline hippie, liked that it was quiet.

[@chriskriaris4304]

Does the electric have the HI CAPACITOR expansion line set up. I hope so.Thanks

[@GuneTools]

Hey, great vid. I have the 2017 e-XC freeride. It would be great to do a test with the new battery from 2018-2023 see how it does.

[@angelovasilikos7980]

What about jumping? How does it handle larger jumps? Looking into this because of the local population growing near me and have to deal with noise ordnance. Have a small mx track we built

[@kerrynball2734]

The number of additional riding places that could open up with E-Bikes owing to lack of noise really makes them a winner. New housing is encroaching on all the nearby riding places and threatens to shut them down. So instead of 1/2 an hour drive to the nearest MX track its more like 2hrs.

[@Ryandevito]

Hey man! Where are you riding? Im moving to superior soon and wondering where there is to ride some singletrack?

[@mooreonmedia8662]

Good video, it would be cool to see the freeride in some technical terrain to see how it copes with rocks, roots, mud and hills. I rode with one guy on a '19 freeride thru some pretty mellow technical terrain and it did not do too well, that might have been rider error tho. Another issue with the ebike is the re-buildability, (TPI too for that matter). Electronic wizardry is great till something breaks, then its got to go the shop, or worse. For the time being i'll stick to burning gas.

[@stef6963]

I have a ktm 2016 freeride 250R and it rips. My dad is just learning on a 2021 ktm E-XC. I always get scared when were trailriding because I can't hear him behind me hahaha. I always gotta tail him!

[@chopperhehehe]

Awsome honest relieved I love both bikes 👍👍👍😜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🦕🙂🤞✌

[@jeanlavallee2887]

I like your video, I am a 50yo A enduro/hare scramble rider. Huge fan of the KTM300, but rode a sur ron the other day and had a blast. I have no time for hate, I love them all and finding how to go fast on a particular machine is fun. If electric ever has the range to run an enduro and I am faster on it, then that's what I'll race. For now I think that freeride would be a great backyard track bike with the right suspension setup.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Jean Lavallee Awesome to hear that! We're all just trying to have fun on 2 wheels at the end of the day and they're all great bikes for their own reasons. It's fun to test the bikes and see where they shine but we like them all. You're absolutely right, the Freeride E-XC is a great backyard track bike.

[@justinsane7128]

Great head-to-head comparison how do they stack up weight Wise

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Michael Kemp The 300 is 227 pounds without fuel and the Freeride is 245 pounds... also without fuel 😉

[@justinsane7128]

@@ElectricCycleRider very close then.... Thanks for the review and reply!

[@ShiftGearsMoto]

I'd be really interested to see a hard enduro comparison. How does an ebike do without a clutch?

[@rolux4853]

In which situation would you need a clutch on a electric bike? It has torque from zero rpm, so there’s no need to rev. No offense I’m just curious where you would need the clutch.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Shift Gears Drink Beers For sure! I might have to do something like that. Not having a clutch in technical terrain is a big disadvantage, especially when you start losing traction. The power from the electric motor quickly breaks the rear tire loose when you lose traction in hill climb and slow technical situations. Thanks for the note.

[@obscured021]

@@ElectricCycleRider Electric Trials bikes have a clutch for that reason, I will 100% go electric when the range is there

[@mickjager5974]

@@ElectricCycleRider What if you just added some kind of traction control device. Granted that will never work in every situation, like when you want to spin the rear wheel to throw dirt on someone! I'm guessing a mode switch to vary how much spin it allows or maybe even one that can learn.

[@markspoor4663]

So good. Thanks for doing. Measure avg heart rate next time. I suspect it's the lack of noise being less fatiguing and thereby lowering heart rate.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Mark Spoor For sure 👍

[@christuttle3980]

Got to get me one of these electric rides

[@dbc105]

Had you had a foot brake on the Free Ride you may have well been quicker. My question is would the Free Ride be good for 20-25 miles of trail riding? I'm 63 so I'm not asking about race speeds. I have a 2007 300 XC-W and only get above 3 gear when I'm headed back to the truck. The appeal of electric to me is the lack of needed maintenance. No more pistons, barrels, cranks, clutches, gears, gas, oil. We already have to replace tires, chain, sprockets, brakes, but the plug in and charge and go ride on the weekend really looks to be ideal for me. LOL, provided I can afford one.

[@timothyvandekerckhove1972]

And can survive the walk back when you run out of range.

[@xBaseHead]

Is the freeride exc street legal in cali? Do u need a license?

[@peninsulaautoservice2559]

You could make a dull brake system for the back. Keep the handle brake and ad the pedal as well.

[@canadaeast8358]

Can’t beat the 300 two stroke man that’s a beast . Good video man I like both bikes just like the 300 more

[@hanserikharper616]

I wish there was somewhere to go just ride these. I put a dirt bike into a ditch and got hurt decades ago missing a shift, never been on a dirt bike since. Sur Ron is really appealing but would love somewhere controlled to go just test and compare. Sounds like a spendy business start up.

[@double-oseven5725]

Cheers brother!! Im wondering how many hours one could get on a cruisy day out on easy firetrails...actually trying to conserve a little??

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Double-O Seven Great question. If you're taking it easy and conserving battery life, you can see mileage in the mid to high 30s.Thanks for the note!

[@BertineFamily]

What a difference in audio quality, I thought you were narrating post-video in the Freeride portion.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@JohnB I was surprised how much lower my HR was on the Freeride. Never realized it until this video.

[@scoremxcom]

How long will a battery go at 100%?

[@jimji2774]

Nice video love it. I had a 300 xcw then went to a Sherco 300 4s and sold the ktm. Just a lot more predictable and smoother power and about same weight. I am older now and the lighter weight and quieter electrics are appealing. Paid a lot more for my Specialized emtb so these seem like a bargain to have a real motorcycle again. I might prefer the Ultra Bee with the mods you did if I really want to go light as long as the suspension could be brought up to near the level of the free ride. Don't forget to mention your height and weight more often for reference as well as the weight of the bikes. How much lighter is the Freeride than the 300 anyway ?

[@cgreeneblue]

It's funny what people "feel" in terms of how fast they are vs what the objective times actually say. Similar to this test I have heard a number of people say they "felt" faster on the track with their 2 stroke bike but the lap times showed they were actually faster on their4 stroke...that's why we need to trust data and not opinion.

[@raymondj8768]

the 2 stroke noise jacks you up n speeds your heart up.

[@Silent-Lucidity]

Stumbled across this video and want to preface that I have no experience with these bikes. However, I went to an arena once to watch them race. Part of the excitement was hearing the roar of the engines. What's the communities take on the electric bike and do you think the lack of engine noise would take away from the fan experience? My personal opinion is that I like the sound of the engines and think I'd prefer it to an all electric bike race.

[@reubenw8810]

But what does the exc go like compared to a grannysmith?

[@LondonWater]

I definitely agree about the foot brake. It’s worked for decades, and I see no reason to change it. It would be a big problem for me also.

[@mountainflyhigh]

Have you ever thought about how much easier it is when you have to stop on a steep and rocky hill, and you can't get your right foot up on the brake pedal because you need that foot for balance, so you end up sliding back with no rear brake? With the rear on the left hand, never an issue. Plus the slow-speed torque of an electric allows you to slowly power out of that exact situation without spinning the rear wheel.

[@jannevaatainen]

@@mountainflyhigh Exactly. Handbrake is definitely superior, it's just that everyone is so used to footbrakes and also engine sounds. In time, these things will definitely change.

[@slagletoby]

Nice bro that’s a great review and thank you. I still have my 2015 it only has 10,643 miles and 741 hours. I’ll trade up with a TPI 300 at 1,000 hours.

[@longtime239]

Hey bro on the electric bike just run the right hand brake for the rear and the left hand brake for the front it's kind of kooky but I think you might like it

[@coryricci301]

Ebikes will be great for those of us in areas where riding is frowned upon

[@kzakkttixx]

Still waiting for the Storm Bee from you. It has been on sale in Russia for a long time and there are many reviews. But a direct comparison with KTM Freeride E-XC in the hands of a motocross pro is more interesting. I hope someone will offer you it for review...

[@gear323]

This!!!!!

[@bradleyland]

Sur Ron really need me to get one in his hands pronto. The big Bee isn’t on sale here in the US yet, but they’d be smart to get one to him and eveRide.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Kzakkttixx For sure! We've been talking with Sur Ron about it for many months. Hopefully we'll get one sent over from China soon because we too would love to do this comparison!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@@bradleylandWe hope so soon!

[@inthecrosshairs4480]

Shrocking!

[@graffix11us]

I'd be curious if that 3 seconds came down to suspension. It's hard to go fast when your getting beat up.

[@Simmons2358]

If this is a fuel-injected 2-stroke it seems there would be no need (or not as much need) for a tuned exhaust pipe. I suppose it still helps to have that exhaust suction timed to help evacuate the cylinder.

[@PMI551]

Can you do your videos in 60 fps? The motion blur is quite bad. Fantastic video and great comparison though.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@P M Unfortunately it's a matter of KZbin's compression on the video. Frame rate wouldn't help the motion blur. Have you tried selecting 1080 to watch the video? It is very likely that it's playing the video in a lower resolution. Appreciate the note.

[@craiglimon6964]

Enjoyed the video comparison. And thanks for not adding any soundtrack. Braap braap. Electric is catching up to gas for sure and much easier to just store, charge and go.

[@Mikado8]

I would love to see a 360 cam mounted on the back of the bike. Probably not really practical but the third person view would look great

[@MrDaymien1]

Will the Emoto continue the direction of gas bikes or evolve into a new type of riding, more descent and momentum based trails . Lighter weight bikes will give better range. Does the bike have different torque setting? Nice looking bike.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Damien Wright The Freeride E-XC has 3 power modes.

[@jacksteelotb2448]

looks like a fun single track

[@druvak]

Great video as always. I'm considering getting a freeride-E, ,but just unsure about how it holds up over time. Does the battery degrade? Is it as reliable as a petrol bike?

[@MiddlePark]

Yes the battery is going to degrade, It does have a warranty but warranty does not cover normal degradation. So 3 years down the road when the battery is at 60% capacity you're out of pocket 5 grand for a new battery (if available) Petrol bikes are incredibly reliable as long as you stay away from made in China KTM and other brands manufactured by them. Ktm is basically the K mart of dirt bikes, they have all the cool stickers, colors and flashy goofy accessories you want. But it's all made in China so steer clear of KTM and get yourself a good old fashioned Japanese tried and true bike that will last ages and have resale. I was extremely disappointed with my 22TE150i, I expected a comfortable, reliable and fuel efficient machine, turns out it was a rattling uncomfortable, Extremely unreliable rebranded KTM that I had difficulty selling for half of msrp after just 10 months. Nobody wants used KTM junk for a reason, thats the Chinese fuel pump, pressure sensors and the horrifying bad design of the mounting trey, poor fot amd finish, and all ktm brands look ragged out after just a few rides. This guy in the video claiming about how good the KTM is is a real tool, I live WAY up here in the Rockies and it's easy to spot city slickers with these brightly colored bikes.

[@druvak]

@@MiddlePark very detailed answer. Thank you 🙏

[@MiddlePark]

@@druvak Yeah, I've been down this road before. I wanted to make sure I helped others not make the same mistake with my detailed response.

[@travistaylor3485]

Would love to see your lap times on a 450 4t...

[@jeanlavallee2887]

Slower probably on that tight trail

[@xaero18]

what tires do you have ?

[@Redaris]

Thanks for amazing video.I've never driven a dirt bike. That is on my bucket list. Pros which I see for electric one. 1)silence-my background is MTB, I love sport and sounds of nature. 2)I don't like mechanics, and what I've founded with dirt bikes, after couple moto hours you have to change oils. Or maybe it's not a big deal 🤔 .

[@Motomaniac99]

What is the range on the electric?

[@Patiboke]

1:33 So glad he said that. ❤

[@trackie1957]

I’m not a dirt bike rider, but I have races mountain bikes and cyclocross, so I’m no stranger to this kind of terrain, but I’m still astounded by the speed I’m seeing at 2:40 . It looks like you’re doing at least 45 mph, perhaps much more. Great suspension, indeed!

[@MiddlePark]

Are you getting paid to say this?

[@trackie1957]

@@MiddlePark No, I’m honestly impressed with this. Sure, there may be other riders who are much better, but that doesn’t mean that this isn’t impressive.

[@allenwilliams2092]

Ive never rode an electric bike period i think its pretty neat but nothing compares to gas! I am impressed how fast they are! And has to be nice not having to shift in the woods that on demand power all the time! Sorta like a 450 four stroke in the woods! Im curious about the price difference? And whats the rang difference? Like how long can you go on a charge? How long does it take to charge? Whats wheelieing like?

[@legofuntime4003]

What's the name of this single track trail?