KTM FREERIDE EXC vs. SURRON STORM BEE | Electric Dirt Bike Test + Full Review

[@DeanF]

I always appreciate your real-world hands on reviews-Thanks Tucker!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Dean F Thanks Dean!!!

[@martinfoster5163]

Fantastic video, mate! I chose the Surron Storm Bee because it was the only choice. And there was just one in the whole country (Mongolia). The local KTM dealer didn't have any KTM Freeride's for sale. I also tried the smaller Surron Light Bee but I'm a tall guy and it just didn't fit. The Storm Bee works well for me, it fits me perfectly I'm 187cm and 90kg (6'2" and 200lbs) and I'm not an aggressive rider (I'm 59 years old). I find the Storm Bee very fast and has a very responsive throttle. I don't experience the "lag and delay" you describe. I actually wish there was some lag and delay. Sport mode is insane and I only use it on roads. Never used "Turbo" but do use reverse a lot. Eco and rain are better for me and give more range. Traction control is brilliant for hill climbs. I concur that you need handguards/barkbusters. I bought KTM full wrap around handguards. They fit with minor modifications. I got a 220v charger with mine and can recharge in 2-3 hours from dead. But I hardly ever run it even close to dead. Most rides are 30-60 minutes and I'll use 10-50% of my charge. I paid $7200 for my prototype / pre-production model just over 1 year ago. I could get a Ultra Bee and a Storm Bee for the price of the KTM.

[@mcbrite]

Check inside the menus, there could be a setting for throttle response, where you can tune it a bit smoother/"laggy"...

[@Greenegoat]

You can find a new KTM Freeridefor $7k right now

[@usaclaimsthemoon4198]

New?

[@dylanmccallister1888]

@@usaclaimsthemoon4198 yeah dealers cant sell the older year models and they are super cheap if you are willing to travel to save several grand

[@jetrep]

​@@usaclaimsthemoon4198 they're probably all gone now. I picked up one new for less than 7k

[@codybui1907]

@@usaclaimsthemoon4198yeah loads of dealers near me have it for around $6000-$7000. seen some even as cheap as 5.5k

[@odraino]

Link?

[@harelzar]

IN 4:06 LOOK AT THE SURRON CHARGER sticker you can see it support input voltag of 85-264 this meen 110v and 220v

[@jimji2774]

Ready for the KTM Freeride vs the Surron Ultra Bee review now please !

[@FarmerFpv]

You're the man Tucker! I'm still obsessed with my Alta Redshift. I can't bring myself to get another electric MX bike yet. The Alta is just so good, IMO.

[@eddieb3915]

Another great review, thank you! And yes, please get your hands on an Ultra Bee and let us all know what the deal is! I would buy an Ultra Bee today if it was available in the US and lived up to claimed specs (while I wait for my Stark Varg to be delivered later in 2023).

[@VoltedAdventures]

Great review! 🤙🏼 Both bike look amazing, can't wait to try that new Surron tho 👀

[@BramBiesiekierski]

Based on this video. I reckon the storm bee would be my pick. Bigger battery, more power, more speed, more range, cheaper. Plus the way you describe the plush storm b vs nimble freeride characteristics, I think the storm be a better match for me. I also like the more flexible user settings in the storm B. I think that is important to help tune the bike to your own preferences and terrain.

[@dalepellerin]

The key quote to me was, “feels like you’re riding on top of the bike (KTM) more than in the bike (SurRon). That’s the #1 thing for me no matter what kind of riding I’m doing from mtn biking to dirt biking. Lower centralized cockpit riding where you feel one with the bike is what I strive for.

[@jaysoniorg2950]

I think you misinterpreted what he meant. The KTM is far more nimble, responsive, and aggressive. The reason the SurRon feels like you're in it, is because you're stuck. With the KTM, you can toss it around, it accelerates much faster, and the far superior suspension lets you blast through rough sections, where the soft suspension of the SurRon drags you down, bottoms out, and forces you to go slow.

[@dalepellerin]

@@jaysoniorg2950 you may be right

[@zachfpv4493]

I think he was referring to the ergonomics.my friend and I have identical bikes apart from an 18vs19 inch rear wheel and mine has lowered pegs and higher bars.mine feels like you sit in his feels like you sit on.

[@otallono]

@@zachfpv4493 exactly

[@DingDongDrift]

do you think the difference in throttle response is due to the traction control on the storm? does the throttle change if you turn off the traction control?

[@mcbrite]

33:13 When talking about throttle response: Are you talking stock setting storm bee? Or AFTER you have played around with it? I think there should be 3 settings for throttle response inside the menu? Or it may have been on the Ultra? Might be mixing it up...

[@rwolfcastle]

Love the light bee in the background 19:15 I'm really curious about the Ultra Bee. I love the size and weight of my Talaria, but wish it used more dirt bike components than MTB components (fork, brakes, rear shock etc). Hopefully it hits the states faster than the Storm Bee.

[@verglasviq]

Love how indepth and honest this review was. Was going to get a KTM Freeride, but now I think I'll go with the Storm for the street-legal scrambler build I've been wanting to make for some time now. Definitely fits my all-in-one bike role that I need.

[@platin2148]

Great option for sure if you need it 23 already..

[@petermclaughlin3292]

Love what you said. I am building my own. I am mechanic dumb I'm going to post it so others follow. These outlandish prices from China l don't want to now to.

[@meanlean3095]

The Kim chassis & suspension & brakes are loads better than sur ron

[@BlackSkyentertainment]

Already have a Freeride and I am sure the suspension and build quality stock are far better. I did however just order a set of cone valve forks for mine and the shock is being re valved. We are riding fast east coast single track.

[@windridermaui]

Excellent review on both bikes. Thank you so much for sharing. Very helpful 🤙

[@nobraap]

I would love to see the comparison of the Freeride and the Ultra Bee - couldn't find a video yet

[@NCtrailX]

Would love to see a comparison of the Freeride EXC and the Ultra Bee. I know the Ultra has less power, so the Freeride is likely faster, but curious to see if it's close to keeping up on a trail ride.

[@Laruxo]

Great review! Here in Europe I can find a lightly used KTM for 9000€ (same price as the road-legal Storm Bee), but the Storm Bee feels like a next generation platform. It probably will need a suspension tune, but other than that I see no big downsides. Well, at least for the next few years until my skills improve and the road-legal Stark Varg comes out :)

[@GL0BETREKKER]

Range is still a big differentiating factor, 16 miles on the storm bee and it went from 100% down too 30%. I'm sure EV's will solve that problem over time though, but for now..

[@samsaasen4922]

@@GL0BETREKKER I concur. Buy a 2 stoke for now and give the EVs several year until they get all their shenanigans figured out. It’ll come one of these days

[@puffybodie5282]

@@samsaasen4922 Too optimistic with several years only. It will be dozens of years if anytime at all (unless they start to use brain and figure out that providing electricity from hydrogen is way to go). Look where KTM get in 10 years? Basically nowhere regarding range, even the latest model is horrible. Plus both of them are useless as replacement for a bike, not because of range as that is getting manageable if you are in region where there are some options for charging. But because they do not have INTEGRATED CHARGER. No one on regular bike is having oil rafinery in their bag just to be able to drive somewhere. And so with KTM or Sur-Ron you must take that huge and heavy box with you? No, thanks and not even for half of the price....

[@oliverfernandez4273]

Unreal review! So much depth. Also.. you can ride man!

[@hutchdw77]

Surron drivetrain, custom frame, custom suspension. Got it.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Dustin Hutchinson Haha, the wish list?

[@hutchdw77]

@@ElectricCycleRider exactly. A cottage industry in the making.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@@hutchdw77 It's pretty fun to consider. There are already some brands and skilled tinkerers doing some cool eMoto swaps with older ICE chassis. Kind of in line with my thought at 30:10 but that would be a pretty expensive experiment...

[@wbwills2]

Thx for the early thoughts/breakdown..really appreciated that.

[@Corn-ped]

Thank you! All the information we wanted! I really like the drz and xr comparison. Coming from an xr200r to the freeride really makes me see some similarities in the sur Ron.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@CornPed Right on!

[@Corn-ped]

What did you do to the freeride suspension? I want to send mine out this winter. I have upgraded the springs but need to revalve it.

[@ninjagarage2]

That was an excellent review and what amazing trails you have there.

[@CliffdropChad]

Exceptionally done.. Very impressive review mate! Thanks for sharing this👍

[@jetrep]

It'd be great to see a comparison video between the Freeride and Ultra as teased at the end of this video.

[@growlith6969]

The big problem I have with Sur is that their R&D isn't as good. Parts rub together, weak points are plentiful, parts are cheap, upgrades are mandatory (so far). KTM on the other hand is going to be an out of the box no upgrades needed kind of experience. Pay a little more, save a lot.

[@RAZ13L]

no, surron is the best choice

[@andyjonathan2486]

At 8:09, is there a potential for the rider to be electrocuted?

[@Luap-ls3ix]

When you say "bottoming out", do you mean the suspension is bottoming out or the bottom of the frame is hitting terrain underneath the bike?

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Luap When I said I'm bottoming out at 11:10 , I am referring to hitting the frame (and/or pegs) on rocks and logs underneath the bike.

[@lifeoff-road280]

Great comparison! See if you can get your hands on the all-new Surron ULTRA Bee. Seems to be the unicorn.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Life Off-Road Surron Ultra Bee first look is in progress! We'll post the video as soon as possible.

[@gandysplat]

Can you do ultra bee vs freeride please 🙏

[@PhiTonics]

lol StormB been in pre-production for 2 years or more now 😂

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Ian Haha, yeah, "pre production" in the US but production everywhere else. It is finally coming early next year though and I'm psyched to see more of them out in the wild!

[@owenrawlings1994]

You can buy it in dealers in uk

[@James-ld1of]

You can buy them at any dealer in the uk there are 1000s

[@PhiTonics]

Ah, maybe that's a language thing, they say pre-production, but maybe they just mean pre-market 🤔👍

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

@@James-ld1of yea but what about the NA Street Legal version that’s supposedly coming also? I wonder if thats part of the delay. Maybe something with the laws here.. They haven’t been too kind to ebikes so far loll Lets just leave it at that lol. Meanwhile everyone could be riding electric cars, bikes, and scooters to the store or around town depending on the weather and what you’re doing. Im surprised since the success of tesla, that there hasn’t been more EV cars made yet. Only just now are they starting to really come out mainstream..

[@Pete-Rc]

That tracks a beast ..nice riding pal.👍

[@TheDirtyBirchTrails]

Wow excellent review, would love a Freeride for single track !!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@The DirtyBirch Trails It's a super fun bike for single track!

[@CncObsession]

What a great review of both bikes. I expect a KTM to have some advantage due to their heritage. The Sur Rons in general (pre Storm) appeared smaller to me. Nice to see the new model appears to be normal sized in comp to the ICE bikes. Having added a Tesla to my fleet in the last few years has opened my eyes to other possibilities. I loved my Rekluse clutch on my YZF years ago, why not ditch the gear shift too via electric. Plus the lack of noise opens up riding possibilities. I am still amazed at how much I get away with in my Tesla because no one heard it ;-) Loved the tunability of the Sur Ron in all of the areas you mention. Something I wish Elon would let me have more control of. And the Turbo button (my likely a momentary BMS bypass) would be great fun for a pass. Your riding area looks beautiful. I am in the E Texas area, little to no rocks, little elevation change but decent single and fire road stuff the Storm looks great for. My riding wouldnt be race pace but still spirited. 20 miles or so single track can be a decent ride.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@CncObsession Appreciate that!! Great points you make too. Super nice to have these options and while neither of these are going to replace my gas bikes any time soon, they're great when range isn't an issue and noise is. 👍

[@pmilitary047]

The comparison ive been looking for. Thankyouu

[@LammensB]

I have the freeride E-XC, and I can confirm the throttle lag on the surron. I once rode a Surron lightbee, and there was some milliseconds of delay between the throttle input and wheel movement. For me, this is a big showstopper. Doing very slow technical stuff and some stunting, this delay makes it very hard to anticipate. The body and wrist movement needs to be exact with the rear wheel movement. KTM all the way!!

[@olivereyre5379]

How long can you ride on this going hard? Has anyone seen people riding or reviews on an MX track? I would be very keen to give this a shot.

[@Surfratglass]

Great Comparison. Looking forward to seeing what type of improvements you can do to the storm bee

[@usernameisrequired]

shut up

[@Surfratglass]

@@usernameisrequired Love you

[@RC-qh9wj]

appreciate the clif notes first off - but watched entire vid ;)

[@shanesmith8088]

Great comparison thank you!! Where do you live cause those trails look sweet!!!

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Shane Smith Thanks man! I live in Colorado. Spoiled with the great trails we have out here!

[@chucktrotter9699]

11.22.22 Tucker, great test rides. Questions: What about parts for the Storm? What about stiffer springs for the forks and shock? Do you think that some weight reduction could be gained somehow? Do you think more accessories will become available? Would like to see the Ultra test.

[@TheProcessor]

How do these compare to the Alta Redshift MX?

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@The Processor The Alta is a bit bigger (especially when compared to the KTM), more powerful than both and has a bit better range. Better suspension. Heavier than the KTM but lighter than the Surron. Overall, more of a performance oriented and "racier" bike than both of these. Shame that it's not still available to buy!

[@philmoiz]

Thanks for the Video! I choose the surron because the battery is bigger, the bike is cheaper and you can go faster than the KTM.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Philippe Moisan All valid reasons! 👍

[@BlackSkyentertainment]

Great review…as always. Thank you. Our next move is to try our stick free ride forks on one of our electric motion bikes….definitely like the electric with the manual clutch. A bigger fork let’s you push through trails faster. I am sure we will have several hybrid bikes until we get our Stark delivered….the funny part is I have a new KTM 450 xcf 2023 that I haven’t even ridden yet….we have so much fun on the electric.

[@stabbyronnie]

I know I'm doing the necromancy thing on an old video, but don't you think the traction control had some effect on the throttle response on the Storm? I mean that's what traction control does, it limits power. If it was laggy when you were just putting around, I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with it, but otherwise it could have.

[@matthewacker0177]

Did you time your laps? It appears from the video that your lap time on the KTM was way faster. It appears from the video you felt you like you were going faster on the Surron because it was probably a looser feel. But looking at the tape it looks like you're going way faster most of the time on the KTM.

[@luiseberhart5156]

Could you try a cake bike to. Would be interesting

[@kevinh6918]

Ground clearance seems to be a major issue. Rutted trails, heavy bike and low clearance are a bad combo. Second question; Are there any springs/suspension parts available for proper setup ?

[@Mr316jon316]

So hopefully you see this! WE NEED A ULTRA BEE VS FREERIDE VIDEO! No one has one and it seems on appear they are very similar!

[@CaptainCurt07]

*I’ve found if u adjust shocks to stiffest setting and turn it back very very little at time to find riding style area then start turning 1 tenth turns you can literally dial shocks in as precise as possible because 99% of these shocks you’ll miss that sweet spot if u turn adjust more than 1/16th to 1/8 increments at time my experience ( adjustable shocks speaking)* I hated my shocks until I figured it out now night n day. U can put abs brakes on front as well I’ve never needed them but would be nice feature. Turbo mode ( hill climbs)

[@adthar9340]

Thanks for the awesome review. I would be really keen to hear what your base chassis settings are on the Storm Bee. E.g. compression, rebound, sag and tyre pressures. I have only had my Storm Bee a few weeks now, and it's my first dirtbike...some base settings from a more experienced rider would be great to see.

[@cresshead]

q. does the suron have a clutch like the electric motion trial bike?

[@jimbo4203]

If you have a KTM dealer near you, I'd go there for sure

[@AlexAndersonMTB]

What is your microphone set up? There's so little wind noise!

[@keijigamings1127]

I'd love to see your comparison to the ultra bee. Your the first person to review with this relatable I depth descriptions

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Check back in a few days... wink wink...

[@user-sn1se8kh7z]

I think the Turbo button on the Surron would be more useful if you could set a higher power level or alternate rider setting that could be obtained at the push of a button.

[@derangeddualsporters]

Freeride shows a rear foot brake?

[@LammensB]

Great review, but one thing that is forgotten. Side by side dragstrip 0-topspeed on the road, not dirt. That would be a great comparisson on the power-part of the review.

[@smdub]

Freeride E has Formula brakes, not Brembo. I like them better than my gas KTMs (they are so crisp!) My other buddy with one thinks they are too quick acting and lack modulation. You think they aren't powerful enough. Three opposite impressions. :) Thanks for taking time to do the review. I'm waiting for the Ultra Bee. With a 21" front wheel and some power mods it might be the Freeride E killer. Fingers crossed!

[@hadesomegamoto7639]

Interesting the price is definitely nicer on the Storm Bee. Hopefully they'll have a street legal model, would be interested in a supermoto. Looks like the Storm Bee won't beat you up as bad as the Light Bee does. The rougher the terrain the more it beats the Light Bee up.

[@christianpaulroldan4010]

Which of the two can be use on road?

[@GettingthruLife]

That's a good thing about the StormBee's price. Most people don't need to spend/invest the extra 2K because the bike will already do what they want and more. KTM for the more hard core rider is the better investment due to just a fork upgrade alone for stormbee, surron and talaria is $1,400-1,600 plus. Eats a big chunk out of the 2K price gap with just a fork upgrade.

[@alexfrankl7861]

To be fair i dont know one KTM that still runs stock suspension, everyone i know has has thrown truckloads of cash at kato suspenders to make them work, not talking e bikes though but the footage i see displays the same characteristics.

[@alexanderamalfi3003]

Where are these trails? Would a gas bike be allowed here?

[@gg4760-k5n]

With the price difference could you not improve the suspension to get the feel you need.

[@MichalKunst]

Does it make sense for person with 193cm and 95 kg?

[@ccrruuxx]

Have you checked out the Electric and Co conversion kits? I've been seeing people putting them in fullsize bikes and they say the power is comparable to a 450. Seriously considering building one but I haven't seen a ton of reviews yet.

[@KooLaidblue]

Definitely appear to be going quicker on the ktm. We agree on the ktm freeride aspects as a 300 xcw tpi rider myself. The drz400 comparison was you actually reading my mind lol. I've bike swapped for a ride with my buddy on his drz400 and me on my 300xcw. Boat anchor. It was fun for a while but it was work, hard work to not even be at the same pace as my 300xcw and I was either going to blow out the suspension or the motor.

[@AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken]

How much is a replacement battery when it wears out?

[@damienhouques6379]

Hi, what about the range ? How long can you ride each of them ? Regards

[@55afishead]

Buena Vista? four mile?

[@trifiremedic]

What's the name of the trail system are you riding?

[@joshuareed-lk8vg]

Where you riding?

[@pestiadam4624]

whats the top speed of the ktm?

[@Dogghousse]

Is there a 2 stroke version

[@twistedthrottle8513]

thinking ill get one to replace my gasgas 350f ,i live near forest trails ,we have about 300klm of single trail weaving up and down hills through creeks ,be perfect as i can charge it off my solar and batterys cost me nothing to fuel it up

[@speedbird737]

I added handguards to my UK storm bee! fantastic bike! but I think I will buy the ulta bee too!

[@slickwv]

Great review. I'm quite intrigued by the whole electric motorcycle concept. Question: On either of those bikes, how are they at situations where you're at a dead stop and need to get the front up and over a log or ledge? With no clutch, that's got to be an issue. I'm assuming you also can not pivot turn one of these, for the same reason?

[@TaylorHudson]

I haven't ridden either, but since the electric motors have all their torque available from 1rpm, I would think you should be able to get the front wheel up without issue.

[@dylanbrown8411]

Regarding traction. The Ktm comes stock with a trials tire. Sur-Ron has a dirt tire.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Dylan Brown For sure. The KTM comes stock with Maxxis Trialmaxx tires. I've run a few different tire combos on the Freeride, currently with a Michelin Starcross Medium on the front and Shinko 525 on the rear.

[@theenergizingflame7620]

Hi all I have a suron LBX with 72v battery and a bac 8000 ,,just out of curiosity,,was wondering if the new suron was as fast or slower, regard james

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@the energizing flame My 14kW BAC8000 LBX is faster but the power is arguably not as usable as the Storm Bee. The Storm Bee power to weight is less abundant but a bit more usable, if that makes sense.

[@michaelj3725]

Can we get a review on the Ultra Bee?

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Michael J It's in the works! Will post a video as soon as we're able.

[@dbc105]

It may be my imagination but it seemed you were a little quicker through the wooods on the KTM. I would think that would be due to weight and the differences in the basic designs. What I ride in Tenn. is just about the type single track maybe a little more technical but I'm old and not a fast rider. If I make 20 miles on my 300xcw I'm ready to go to the truck and it looks like either of these would get me to about that point. Thanks for the video, this is exactly what I've been wanting to see. Good stuff.

[@Rex_Payne]

Great review!

[@GrendelKhan666]

I am very curious to see how these 2 will match up vs the Zero FX. At this point the KTM cost what the FX cost.The FX has more power, is street legal, gets rebates and seems like the better choice. My guess is that FX would kill both of these bikes. Let's see a vs with the Zero FX in the mix! Keep up the great content.

[@LammensB]

I have the KTM E-XC and a zero FXS. The zero has a lot more power and torque. On a dragstrip, the FXS would win with ease, it's a real rocket'. But unfortunately, there is also some throttle delay on the Zero. this makes it unfit for stunting/slow technical rides. Thats why i have the supermoto version. I love the KTM, and I love the Zero FXS, but both for different reasons.

[@laryangel4082]

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[@mertkaptan3849]

in another video you were saying that you would choose ultra bee instead of storm bee because ultra bee is more sporty and good for single track. so why you are not comparing ultra bee but storm bee instead versus Kim. doesn't make sense. ı would like to see a ultra bee vs Ktm video

[@ElectricCycleRider]

If you look at the date of this video vs the date of the last video you were watching, you'll notice this video was released much earlier. The Ultra Bee didn't exist when we made this video. We will do a comparison of these bikes in the future.

[@mertkaptan3849]

sorry I didn't notice that. Thanks for the videos they are being so helpfull@@ElectricCycleRider

[@BARBATUS1300]

KTM Freeride vs Surron Ultra Bee please!

[@TheGrimnaut]

Hey Tuck. I've got the pre-prod F storm. I also find the Storm suspension really soft, even on the "F". I'm a bit bigger than you too, so I'm gonna be stiffening it up A LOT. How do you find the throttle? I find it really twitchy. Haven't whiskey'd yet, but close a couple times and I'm hoping that Surron comes out with an app/program to be able to tweak it sooner than later. I can't speak for the KTM, as I've never been on it so glad you released this vid! :) Sidenote: the prod version of the Surrons are gonna have a bigger battery too, which I'm kinda miffed about. :(

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Grimnaut Thanks for your input! Definitely eager to try the bike with a suspension tune... I find that the throttle response could use some improvement too. It's a bit too delayed for my preference and can feel a little twitchy as you mentioned. Surron does say that throttle response will be improved for the production model but we will see! Where did you get your pre-production F?

[@TheGrimnaut]

@@ElectricCycleRider Local dealer up here in Canada.

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

How about the Ktm freeride power plant into a ktm 150xcw chassis lol. That would be sweet too!

[@chicagorccars]

Which is best for motocross and jumps? I'm guessing the KTM. Thanks

[@JBean_COCR]

Hey Tucker, isn't your KTM modified (suspension and tires)? Compared to I'm assuming a stock Storm Bee. Do you think you could fix the suspension with springs/oil or would it need a different brand of suspension? I would also be great if you could do a longer term test. I'm concerned about reliability and availability of spare parts. Thanks for all you do, great channel.

[@jamesmower1852]

I love both of these bikes the storm be I like a little more in the reverse definitely can come in handy if you ride bike enough especially trail riding there is definitely some places you could use reverse for sure although in some of them places is also where you have a hard time getting traction in reverse on a bike I could just imagine how well the traction actually is in reverse but it can definitely come in handy I'm sure

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@James Mower Yeah, I laughed at it at first but it's actually come in surprisingly handy on a few occasions.

[@borshardsd]

Ty for this!

[@enricodedios3702]

what’s wheelbase on both bikes? Awesome reviews

[@marhaban28]

I so want to have it, but the price is quite expensive it's hard to reach

[@NexGen-3D]

The Storm sounds like its setup like a typical old school Japanese Road/Trail Enduro style bike, great for a those nice open long trail roads, sounds like a great bike to be honest, if they bring out a road licensable version, I will seriously look at one.

[@bangkokstallion]

Enduro model. 13k AUD

[@NexGen-3D]

@@bangkokstallion Thanks bud, I found a couple of resellers here in AU, seems a little pricey for the road version, but the off road one is well priced, most likely the ADR compliance plate is costing additional. if it rides like an old XR400, then this is perfect me.

[@defeatyou]

Nice video,thank you from Russia! 🙂

[@enricodedios3702]

what’s wheelbase on both bikes? Awesome reviews 👍

[@thelakeman5207]

I'd go with the one that has a dealership nearby my house. You need parts, constantly. Especially if you want to ride that day.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Fair enough! I haven't needed much parts aside from wear and tear items on either of these bikes but definitely understand wanting to be near support.

[@ThatYamamaha]

I wonder how these would hold up on a motocross track

[@germaniack]

I don't think you can emphasize enough how much more convenient the 110V charger is for US market. It's a large reason why the KTM isn't sitting in my garage.

[@philmoiz]

Yes but less than 2 hours to recharge compare to 4hours for the storm bee..