2022 Mexico City GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

The Mexico City Grand Prix was not the best to put it mildly, but we did get to see the return of the old Daniel Ricciardo. Plus we discuss how the circuit needs to change and if Mercedes bottled it with their strategy.
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Timetamps: 00:00 - Greetings 01:56 - Three Word Race Reviews 02:41 - Matt: "Mercedes are Ferrari?" 10:12 - Why were Mercedes so conservative with their strategy? (already covered) 10:42 - Lewis' lack of a win: Signs of Red Bull dominance or W13's shortcomings? 13:25 - Props to Daniel Ricciardo 18:49 - Why was Ricciardo given a ten second penalty, while George got only five seconds for the same incident? 22:04 - How can you become Driver of the Day when you crashed into another car? 24:24 - Commercial: betterhelp 25:54 - Tommy: "Mexico deserves better!" 32:41 - What kind of changes would you make to the track to make the races more interesting? (already covered) 33:25 - Were the selected tire compounds too hard? 35:37 - Will Gasly change his driving to account for his penalty points? 39:48 - What's up with Alonso's luck? 44:30 - ABCDEF1 58:30 - Predictions 1:03:12 - Final Thoughts

[@Kessoku]

keep it up man

[@tom.mp4]

True legend, thank you

[@robpuga13]

Effin legend.

[@Drrolfski]

Thks! You would have assumed that a channel with over 1 million followers would at least be bothered with adding basic markers to their podcasts. And not having to rely on legends like you to do their work for them.

[@bizarrebunny5579]

Thank youuuuuuuuu

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

They dislike for Albon in this community is insane. Dude puts the slowest car on the grid infront of better cars every single weekend and outperforms Latifi every single weekend. Yet a huge part of the fans give him C/D/E for good performances... When George pulled the same gap to Latifi, he got A/B rating. edit1: This weekend: 33% C and 13% D and 5% E and F. edit2: seriously he get an insane amount of D/E/F every single weekend even when he beats his team mate and end up around P12.

[@perfectfantasies]

there are some drivers who can have a banger drive but the voters just put in a C since they don't care about them. which is unfortunate.

[@brickymcbrickerson9506]

Agreed B at minimum..

[@Chyeahokay]

100% albon drove the wheels off of the Williams that lacks any good downforce. At a track that requires a lot of downforce.

[@peeturpain9379]

Cuz he's a trash driver. Stop nuthugging him.

[@mittalvinayak12]

Thanks for mentioning that. Guy is brilliant

[@TheMissiIe]

Ricciardo also had a 1.98 second pitstop, so much for "pitstops under 2 seconds are impossible"

[@danbruh33]

A team which is not redbull doing under 2 sec pit stop? That’s illegal

[@soundscape26]

Wasn't there some sort of clampdown on "way too fast pitstops" a while ago?

[@TheMissiIe]

@@soundscape26 yep, FIA made it so you couldn't do a sub 2 second pitstop for safety reasons... guess that didn't work

[@veldmuis8181]

isnt that illegal now?

[@soundscape26]

@@veldmuis8181 Guess not... I mean, they even have a sponsor for the fastest pitstop award.

[@stevenst6337]

Verstappens race pace is absolutely insane. 45 laps on a set of mediums and maintaining a 1:22 lap time the entire stint must be absolutely frightening for the other drivers.

[@MajieB]

Even with traffic from battling back markers, just insane.

[@recipoldinasty]

And his car is no way near as ahead as other dominant cara in the past, hes just insane

[@ddha0000]

i would say it is more frightening that Hamilton was able to keep pace on the first stint on mediums vs softs and then was lapping similar times to Max when he was on the hard tire.

[@ddha0000]

@@recipoldinasty its way faster in race pace than the other cars by a distance in most tracks.

[@stevenst6337]

@@ddha0000 Max was able to control the gap the entire soft stint while managing his tyres wouldn't exactly call Hamiltons pace frightening.

[@peterR22]

Lewis fan here but can you imagine how annoyed he would have been if George went from mediums to softs and overtook him. I think Merc were scared to split strategy

[@Dam_Noir]

Merc have no issues splitting the strategy if Lewis is the beneficiary though. Hungary was a prime example of this.

[@azure89]

i think its the fact that lewis was pushing for at least a split strategy even before the race started. they didn't listen to him and put both him and russel on mediums. if they ended up changing it and screwing him again like they did with him in hungary hewould have been pissed lol

[@IamHailey8]

He would have had to pass Perez first.... not sure that he could have.

[@absurdname5492]

george started from pole so hamilton is expected to be an different long stint strategy whereas russel must start with soft which limits him moveing capability in terms of strat

[@okthen515]

Exactly that, it was so obvious that GR could have gone for soft but then could very well overtake Ham. He would have been crazy after the race 🤣

[@FizziX_88]

I love how Sam Collins quotes during the race on lap 44 : "This is a 71 lap Grand Prix, if Max Verstappen can keep these tyres alive till the end of the Grand Prix, that is the FINEST PIECE OF RACECRAFT you have ever seen in your life." of course he didn't expect Max to actually pull it off.

[@IamHailey8]

He definitely didn't think. He dislikes Max, disclosed it in BBC interview (of course- BBC is the place to show Max dislike)

[@djdrastic1]

Another Verstappen hater made to look a fool haha

[@amirdgucci]

Lmao boy got owned again

[@elliotttalksf1825]

The same guy who said Max was overrated after his Brazil 2016 drive.

[@suckieduckie]

@@elliotttalksf1825 I recently saw that for the first time. It's even worse in hindsight.

[@hanstubben]

You are the best, a non British biased British channel, Sky can certainly learn from you. Max is the difference in the Redbull car, which by all means is a good car, but not at all as dominant as the Mercedes were at their dominance period!

[@riancastermans1607]

I watch a lot of F1 podcasts. This is the best one by far!

[@Addyboy0190]

The last time Merc made a proactive strategic call was Spain 21, ever since then they have been outplayed by Red Bull, their strategy has been banking on others making a mistake rather than having the advantage themselves

[@RainbowColouredNight]

I wonder if always being in front all those years, with both cars too, made them incapable, or at least it's more difficult for them, to GET in front with their strategies. In addition it looks like they're stuck in 2021 where track position was key, especially for them when they didn't want to pass Verstappen on track. The racing IS much better this year and track position isn't as important as it used to be last year. But Mercedes are still favoring waiting things out and keeping track position. Everyone's talking about how it was the right strategy for Ham. Why didn't they go long with him? Why not put him on softs to the end, like Russel wanted to? Still looking like a bit of a plunder to me... They should at least risk sth, if they want to get that win in 2022.

[@hassan2868-u7q]

@@RainbowColouredNight that's definitely a factor, being in front and way ahead all the time takes away so much pressure and you have more options and more time to think... 2021 showed they can run a race and be good at it, by they still can't take risky moves or even listen to their drivers. their strategy calls feel more computer generated and they stick with it even when they still have some time to recover...

[@rottieshepcalibre9156]

Really

[@mrc0a124]

I've never been so sad that a prediction didn't work out wish Bottas could've got more points but atleast he got a point after so long

[@salemsuljkanovic2067]

How can you give Alonso and Ocon the same grade? Car #14 was literally 12 sec and some positions ahead.

[@bynahelemaal]

Merc keeps showing they’re not that great on strategy if they’re not leading comfortably or have the fastest car that day! They should listen to their drivers more often and not blindly trust computers! Rbr have been on the back foot for most of the years and rarely have they made a mistake on strategy

[@scienceByV]

For Merc there's no hammer time if the car isn't there

[@andres94303]

Honestly, they've probably never been great on strategy. They were just so much faster than everyone else on the grid that they could relatively easily overcome dodgy strategy calls in the past.

[@babas0997]

I’m really starting to believe that they were average at best in this department, but the sheer dominance of their cars coupled with reliable and consistent drivers covered that up.

[@chriscollins550]

It wasn't just Mercedes that did same strategy. Pirelli told all the teams like they do every race what is the fastest tiers for what stint and the best results from what compounds to run. Pirelli even said after the race the tires durability compound they got it wrong. Pirelli told all the teams how many laps each tyre compound should last and they all lasted longer then what they should of as the makeup of each compound was not falling apart. The medium tyres was not meant to last that long and didn't grain. Did Mercedes get it wrong of was all the teams given the wrong information Pirelli was even telling the teams During the race that medium should go off soon and that'why Mercedes didn't change the strategy? Now should Pirelli be giving teams information any way and red bull is the only team who never gone by what Pirelli has told them and that's why it's gone right for them and wrong when they pushed the tyers to long and blown them out.

[@bynahelemaal]

@@chriscollins550 and yet rbr have rarely had tire failures ruin a race (for both cars), whereas merc had that run of multiple races where their tires either grained early or blew out in 2020, after which toto pressured pirelli, pirelli asked fia for less downforce and foa made the new ‘21 floor regs! Merc’s just shit at strategy and relies to heavily on projected analyses from their own computers while they have LH44 in they’re car telling them otherwise… Okay sure hamilton is usually more reactive than proactive, letting pitstops happen and then complain about choices made after, whereas russell this year shown to be more assertive and demand a pitstop, but still in certain cases hamilton has made his wants and needs clear pre race and merc still chose to go with simulations over driver feedback. Rbr are also the type to split strategies with tyres, which then gives way for conspiracy theories of favoring, but still those split choices have paid off more often than not, while merc is quite conservative, opting with both drivers on the same tires.

[@LordWay]

Just happy Daniel got to show his ability even just once before he leaves

[@3namesjames]

This race had the quote of the year. Ted Kravitz, lap 64 "Does that look like it's terminal, now? No, that's a Williams"

[@hiufgterde]

If the RB car was so dominant Ferrari wouldn't have had so many poles this year.

[@robh9577]

And then they fall off on lap 10 and the RBs go steaming past. Payday is on Sunday, that's the time for a fast car

[@hiufgterde]

@@robh9577 second half of the season yes, but not in the first half. But still, Ferrari has a very quick car. They should have scored many more points. Lerclerc got 9 poles or something. So the dominance in terms of points doesn't really mean the RB car is miles and miles ahead of the ferrari performance wise

[@andrigtmiller]

Pirelli should have gone with the softest compounds based on how much sliding around all the cars were doing, even on the softs. That would have made strategy more interesting too.

[@jord5626]

So based on evidence that happened once the compounds were locked in, Pirelli should have gone softer?

[@RoysIdea]

Was interesting to see the field split almost even over the tires. For me this means that Pirelli actually made the perfect choice. With softer tires everyone would make the same choice.

[@andrigtmiller]

@@RoysIdea That's a good point. I think the teams that did what Mercedes did probably regret doing it though.

[@andrigtmiller]

@@jord5626 No, they can't do that. I heard the Pirelli guy talk about that they decided to be conservative on the compounds, but was kind of admitting that they should have considered not being that conservative and going with the softer compounds.

[@andrigtmiller]

The Monza example isn't good to judge Botas, because at that point of the season the Mercedes had such a great advantage with straight line speed that the overtakes were so easy on the long straight that almost anyone in that car could have come through the field from 19th.

[@jrdahl711]

You need to get Danny to be a 4th host on WTF1, he'll need something to do next year.

[@kadeedwards4390]

He has 24million reasons to do nothing if he wants

[@jrdahl711]

@@kadeedwards4390 Which is perfect as a 4th host, he comes cheap lol

[@Gosti85]

Is it strange that I enjoy a race that is decided by driving skill and strategy? I really liked what we had in this weekend, pure racing without much drama. When Alonso stopped I was already getting annoyed when I thought that there will now be a safety car, pushing all the cars together and creating chaos instead of the drivers just racing in the pace they could. I was so relieved that it was only a VSC

[@h.a6154]

Max can have the highest win percentage over a season and more than Schumacher if he wins in Brazil and Abu Dhabi

[@NL1581gdm]

he will

[@Micah_4D]

Yes, this (%) is the way to measure it.

[@joostprins3381]

Hope, but first have to see it and if we have to wait till 2024 until Mercedes admits defeat.

[@budste]

@@NL1581gdm how can you be accept Max getting it but if Lewis had to do it every one would hate home even more. (This is probably ganna start a war) Before you say I'm a Lewis fan you're wrong I'm a bottas fan

[@jacob2808]

Highest win % is not possible to get, held by Ascari at 75%

[@noobpyxl]

Gonna enjoy this Podcast more than the race lol

[@DonLee1980]

"Max is more at one with his car than Hamilton when he was at his dominance" Maybe, but when Hamilton had the strongest car, the team won 19 out of 20 races and got just as many poles. It's just that Hamilton didn't beat his teammate quite as often as Max has. Mercedes were a LOT more dominant than RB have been this year.

[@peterisrael2012]

The record books say otherwise .

[@broyout3586]

Very much agreed. Verstappen's amount of wins this seasons distorts the dominance of his car. It is dominant, certainly in the last half of the season, but not as much as the stats suggest. It's just that the combination car + max + team all add up to something unbeatable. If it was only the car, his teammate would have been much closer, or at least in front of the rest most of the times, instead of struggling to get p2 in de wdc with hundreds of points to nr1. That's no scold on Checo, who is doing an admirable job, considering all of Max' other former teammates. It's just tough being Max teammate. Those are his own words. I hope he will be able to step up next year, but I would be extremely surprised if it would be enough to beat Max. But there is no shame in that.

[@Reaz399]

Well even though I‘m a Max fan and think he‘s already better than Hamilton ever was in his defence Hamilton was up against Rosberg between 14-16. Winning 13+ races against him would be hard for any driver in the same car, even though the Merc between 14-16 was by far the best car on basically every track. The seasons where you can blame Hamilton for not getting more than 11 wins are 2019 and 20 where these Mercs were also more dominant than the RB18 yet Hamilton only won 11 races each and got beaten on merit by Bottas a couple of races each year.

[@fritsieboiker8449]

@@broyout3586 Yep, Perez has been very adamant about Verstappen's brilliance. Hell, ask Russell or Norris, they constantly affirm Verstappen's talent. They're from the same generation, they've seen him in karts. They know.

[@broyout3586]

@paper plane I don't know about that, I also think it is fair to say that a car tailored for Max is very difficult to drive for anybody else. (I think it's logical and not unfair RB develops the car in the direction of its most successful driver. And it's well known how Max likes his cars.) That's the thing with 'in the same machinery'. It would be entirely different for example for Lewis to take a seat next to Max @Red Bull opposed to Max taking a seat next to Lewis @Mercedes. I'd much prefer the latter, although it will never happen unfortunately.

[@brickymcbrickerson9506]

Matt taking a sip after his 12 hour intro/first question.. ;-) Kidding guys, love WTF1

[@davidyoung9392]

Great podcast once again, love how objective you all are. That being said, i do think you could have addressed the sky situation, because this actually is the root cause of the toxicity between fans. 'that guy' from the notebook clearly intended to stir things up with his cheeky storytelling and deliberately disrespecting Max and Red Bull. And not for the first time, because even in interviews he tends to give cheeky pokes. It's a shame that this happens, because this is the MAIN reason we have now boing audience on many grand prix, which was never the case in F1 - not even mentioning the online situation. Sky needs to step up and change this mentality within there show, because this only will get worse.

[@ddha0000]

No, the main reason we have toxicity is because of Horner as soon as he accused Hamilton of debility taking Max out (which if true, really would show he is the GOAT to pull off an impossible stunt). This lead to huge amount of racist abuse towards Lewis which Horner could barely bring himself to condemn what he started. Unfortunately, as we have seen in a few races this year, there is an issue with the orange army in their abuse of staff, especially women. It all started with this horrible fanbase which F1 manufactured to look good on TV but has now gotten out of hand. Ted spoke facts, not disrespect. If facts are now disrespectful, then we are in strange times. Max and Horner need to grow a pair.

[@davidyoung9392]

@@ddha0000 you my friend, or at least your opinions, are the exact result of sky's biased and one-sided reporting ever since Silverstone last year.

[@renegerritsen6178]

@@ddha0000 No, it IS Sky. They have asked questions they know stirr up the fans, just to create drama that isn't there. Sky is the Netflix DTS of broadcasters. They don't care about the truth, they care about ratings and we all know how outrages people are more engaged, it is how social media works. The whole reason you blame Horner, is because Sky does it and other (British) media follow suit.

[@bamischijf5968]

@@ddha0000 mate you can have your opinion, but what you're saying is ridiculous... and don't think that the toxidity within F1 comes from only one fanbase. EVERY fanbase has rotten apples, orange army, teamLH, tifosi etc. Most fans are actually good fans, in every fanbase, you just see them less online cuz they're not dumb enough to waste their time in comment sections. And you are only contributing to the hate with your comment btw

[@sultanoftippoo3857]

You are spot on, there didn’t used to be disrespect in F1. The reasons are many fold I believe but the following are big contributors; 1: when Liberty took over from Ecclestone, the focus became making the drivers not the teams/cars the star - long time F1 fans tend to follow a team first, many newer fans idolised a driver 2: shows like DtS took race & interview content out of context to create fictional drama to fans who thought what they were seeing was real 3: Liberty, broadcasters & team bosses saw the drama DtS created brought more fans into the sport so more drama was created (Horner/Woolf weekly hype) 4: online forums filled with fans now divided into one driver camp or another and online abuse started 5: Sky sees their new audience is made up of rabid toxic fans looking to be outraged on a weekly basis and people like Kravitz oblige. In short we get the media we deserve. If you want to stop someone like Sky being unprofessional, look in the mirror and ask yourself honestly are you encouraging them by contributing online in disrespecting a driver or team. If yes, then how about applying the old adage, “if you can’t say something nice about someone, don’t say anything at all”

[@disgruntledtaco3640]

The double apex section and stadium section could be reworked, that way cars can follow through the lap a bit closer

[@rdod1000]

Super Max!!!🏆

[@Twhyte96]

Another note on the track edits: it’s the only double drs zone I can think of. It makes it so when DRS does it’s job on the main straight, the defending car has no chance to re attack going down the second straight because the passing car keeps DRS even if they make the overtake before the turn

[@PunnamarajVinayakTejas]

Hungaroring as well. I'll need to check about Albert Park.

[@7BD273]

Its clear Mercedes dont want Russell to positively influence his own race again. There is no other explanation for not extending his stint amd pitting him to the softs, especially once they saw how bad the hards were for Hamilton. Why not gamble a bit and try something different? Also Thanks for calling out Gasly's season. He's been very clumsy, and not convincing. at this rate Ocon is going to beat him next year easily

[@2Fast4Mellow]

Actually there was, Leclerc started to gain on Russel and also the cap to Perez started to grow.

[@ddha0000]

He would have been a long way behind by the time he pitted, by the time he caught up on perez, doubt he would have mush of a tire benefit.

[@shameeraswartz133]

I love the fact that Max finally has a reliable competitive car under him. The fact that he managed to drag the old cars onto the podium is amazing. Danny Ric was on fire. Wow, that's the guy I remember. I wish Seb and Nando could've had a good race as well.

[@kasimahmed3841]

He has for two seasons

[@peterisrael2012]

RB has been the fastest car for two seasons back to back

[@rhyd1109]

@@peterisrael2012 data shows that rb were not the fastest car last season

[@versiable8041]

@@rhyd1109 data can be skewed when you have incomplete races such as Monza, Hungary, Silverstone, Spa

[@soundscape26]

@@rhyd1109 Red Bull and Mercedes alternated dominance in 2021.

[@pinquisitor9552]

Great race!

[@Ramtinss]

The race didn't have a lot of actions, but I still enjoy these type of races. The way the strategy played out was also interesting, I don't think anybody expected 1 stop with soft to medium to work. In hindsight, a 1 stop with medium to soft was probably the optimal strategy.

[@Davitamon76]

Totally agree!

[@troyr3478]

I've been trying to convince my inlaws to get into F1 for years, saying how exciting it is...and the 1 time I gather them all to watch a race...this snooze-fest happened lol. I lost count the number of times I said "I swear it's not always like this"....

[@TheEljefe20]

Rough

[@andrewmclaren858]

You need new in-laws 😂

[@okthen515]

I don't know it really wasn't that boring if u watched the strategy. But I guess if u are trying to introduce it to someone new then they wouldn't have got a clue what to look for

[@121alastair]

I give you 10 stars , you guys have done your homework. so not is it only funny your information is correct thanks guys keep up the good work

[@joostprins3381]

Sam Collins made me laugh my pants of. He said, about lap 50, no way those tires keep up, again and again, by that time Danny Ric had done 40+ laps on meds, he was just hoping. 😂😂

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

f1tv is constatnly making mistakes, it is insane. In quali Buxton was constantly talking about how the cars after their lap in Q3 could go for another lap before the timer got to 0, like a second push lap after the first one. Seriously Buxton sometimes talks like this is his first f1 race.

[@Paul_C]

Why the hell is Sam Collins even in F1 as an pundit? He is the most biased commentator ever.

[@JK-tj6ie]

@@Paul_C true. He even called Verstappen overrated half a year ago

[@Nielsivd1999]

Sam Collins can be so tiresome at times. I feel like he digs himself to deep into narratives with the "data" while you can clearly see it's different out on track realtime. Love it when Palmer is there and constantly calls him out on it. Kinda missing Palmer rn

[@joostprins3381]

@paper plane so I should give a so called “expert” a break? Btw, Im not complaining about Sam, I said Im laughing my pants of.

[@phil4986]

Goatifi was ,as always , consistent. And he WAS NOT last.🤣 Dude's epic.

[@masattac]

When Red Bull makes a strategy mistake, it haunts them to their bones. Think back to last year I think it was Portugal where they said it might be hungary all over again. Ferrari and Mercedes have made enough strategy mistakes. It would be hard for them to reference a particular one like that.

[@jealva]

Without saying it outright, Tom pointed out that Verstappen has been the best driver on the grid since 2020 when he kept finishing 2nd and 3rd (and got some wins) in a car that was way slower than the dominant Merc of Hamilton and Bottas.

[@jaja8022]

He's the beste since 2019

[@renegerritsen6178]

Yes, and he is still only 25 years old. If he continues as long as Alonso, he will break many more records.

[@akhila2521]

Gonna enjoy this podcast more than the race

[@ganeshbhat5761]

Lol true

[@bagginzhd1715]

Max won’t actually get the percentage wins record if he wins the last two races. That record still belongs to Ascari in 1952 for his 75% of wins.

[@user-cu5gc4qz8p]

Say Merc call was bad with benefit of hind sight, Russel called it with Foresight, Matt and Tom called it with foresight. I asked what the hell Merc were doing when they switched Hamilton. Are Merc trying to finish in third to get more wind tunnel time...?

[@Eric-rf1is]

that would be stupid. If they stopped races 5 races again, they would have even more windtunnel time......👍👍 That was only Toto trying to "make the world believe" MERC's ENORMOUS advantage with the RBR penalty of 10% windtunnel time...... They didn't put RUS on the med/soft strategy just to protect Ham.........

[@yorkick19]

Merc doesn't want to split strategies anymore. They covered Perez with Lewis, and locked themselves in because they don't want Russell and Lewis fight on or off track for some reason.

[@muchomalo100]

Mercedes thought that RB would do a 2 stopper. Max extended the red tyre for a few extra rounds and the yellows was working fine. Wrong decision by Merc. If George put the reds on then it was possible to come in front of HAM. Merc wouldn't allow that.

[@novisna]

Happy you enjoyed the jingle, sorry for the burn Matt 😅😅😅 hopefully next year the race can match the atmosphere. At the track its really fun, on tv not so much.

[@timothyheimbach3260]

It was a great race because we expected strategy to play out. So I was tense the whole time Max was on that second stint until about lab 50 when it was obvious he wasn't about to pit. And by then Ricciardo was on the attack so that was entertaining to watch.

[@IamHailey8]

Funny, I told my husband during the race that this is the most exciting boring race ever! It was so boring but I was so nervous waiting to see if RB do stop for second time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dexraikkonen7]

you need a vacation, mate.

[@GscheidaBua]

If I want to see cars going slow, I'll join a traffic jam on the motorway From my experience at a race (Austria a few years back), the coolest corner to watch was the second to last from behind, seeing how the cars shoot through in 5th/6th gear, rear sliding, that was something you don't grasp in TV. I understand the argument of "seeing the cars longer", with the right track layout (&surroundings/elevations, can't be done everywhere, I know), you can also manage to do that without slow micky mouse section's. At red bull ring sitting anywhere between turn 1 and the Infield section, you're able to see the cars everywhere on track besides the last 2 corners & the start/finish straight. Seeing them flying around in the distance is still more interesting to me than seeing them going past in 1st or 2nd gear in a Micky mouse section

[@meb4467]

If I'm not mistaken, Mick Schumacher is named after Mick Doohan because they were so close. Just saying.

[@JJfromIA]

How can you possibly be surprised that Merc didn't\wouldn't alternate strategies. Poor Bottas practically begged for it and it never happened. That's not what they do or have ever done.

[@Domagoj_playz]

41:17 he was 10 sec ahead of ocon before the engine problem, and ricciardo had that 10 sec penalty. I believe he would either just catch up to Fernando at the end, or overtake him 3-5 laps before the end, but without pulling a 10 sec gap.

[@TheJmiktutt]

I feel like the altitude makes it more fun to watch. As far as dry races go, it looks tricky. A little extra sideways. Maybe I'm just tripping though.

[@waverod9275]

If I want to see cars going around 40MPH, there are quite a few roads nearby I can go stand beside,

[@Ticklestein]

29:32 - Gimme a track that has both please? Have fun and have something to admire at slow speed over the weekend😊

[@ayanshah609]

I’m surprised they didn’t go into Red Bulls decision to not speak with Sky.

[@sportsmag6148]

With regards to the nascar wall ride, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying! 🤣

[@soundscape26]

The first half of the circuit till turn 6, where Danny hit Tsunoda, is fine... from there onwards it could use some tweaks yes.

[@prahardarji6147]

It's the last sector only

[@fabienmboudoungougni4720]

I don't get the slander against the Circuit as much. Sure there could be some changes made to allow better racing but the biggest issue is by FAR the altitude of the race track. It's not like cars were really close to each other. The problem is if you don't overtake the slower car in front of you within few laps your car will overheat (and you have to fall back to 1,5-2sec) and you even see it on the straight where they drive like they are searching for wet patches when tyres start overheating in wet races.

[@wallymcguire2033]

Agreed. It’s the altitude, not the layout. So much misdirected whining. I didn’t think the race was boring at all. I guess I’m strange.

[@fabienmboudoungougni4720]

@@wallymcguire2033 For me the race was not great but not as bad as many portray it to be. To be honest it wasn't much worse than Australia or Imola. But i get your Point. I felt the same at Maimi. I quit enjoyed the race and it had almost everything but people were hating on it so much (don't get me wrong there was nothing more cringe than the things that happened outside the race).

[@SnowWhiteMR2]

Katy is looking gorgeous today!

[@selder_7]

We should take this race as a showing of where Ricciardo’s true pace level is at, it’s just for some reason he can’t show it every race in the McLaren. Hope he does make it back on the grid

[@ItsmepAzand]

Yeah, we really shouldn't take the other 20 races as his true pace instead of this one race where he was the only midfield driver on the optimum strategy =)

[@lassehope]

I think merc wanted to try and keep Russel out but he was losing a lot of lap time (0.8s) towards the end of his stint on the medium so I think in his case it was a lost cause no matter what he did, although it was probably worth a shot anyways

[@joostprins3381]

Take out those corners makes it a sub 30 seconds circuit, it’s already one of the shortest. But 150 laps would be cool. 😂😂😂😂

[@Kessoku]

Using some sort of flash light, Katy? You're so bright on this episode. pun intended

[@bernardomacara6284]

Hey i just wanna say that in abu dhabi, vettel, hamilton and alonso should go to the main straight and do donuts. i would love to update my phones lockscreen

[@RoysIdea]

Put Max alongside and you have the donuts of champions

[@bernardomacara6284]

@@RoysIdea yeah, that would be better, it will get even more meaning with time since max is gonna win more championships

[@candicethomas2919]

George Russel said post race that his mediums were busted up so he couldn't extend the first stint so they had to bring him in. At that time it was too early for the softs.

[@domroper6333]

It's the same as when Lewis was winning all the time... Yes they both had/have the car... but they also smash their teammates and drive so well and fast for the majority of all races, whilst making few mistakes. Forget the hate, show the love... They are literally in another league for season pace and consistency. Verstappen and Hamilton are already legends

[@PunnamarajVinayakTejas]

I thought you need to have retired to be a legend?

[@domroper6333]

@Punnamaraju Vinayaka Tejas Yep that's the normal... but certain people claim that status beforehand... verstappen, Hamilton, alonso, tyson fury, messi, tiger woods, Ronaldo, that sort of calibre. Legends already

[@JonathanAgresta]

What is "the annual"?

[@ramona.romansoto5178]

Either widen the track for the stadium section to be an overtaking spot

[@Neilios1000]

I'm with Matty on this one. I think there's a great circuit in there, dying to get out.

[@joostprins3381]

So sour for Sainz, at last a start without any problems, isn’t he on pole…

[@endthisnonsense7202]

They DID gamble.

[@mouseDown83]

I hope Ric and Vet both return to Redbull lowkey as testdrivers and allround support

[@RoysIdea]

Yeah, with as third team Porsche Red Bull 😂

[@adam346]

Danny Ric wiping out Yuki, getting a penalty and still maintaining his position? A+ Feel bad for Yuki but it was still a great drive.

[@sheshitkarthikeya1528]

why no timestamps??

[@naparogus3391]

you all look great in black!

[@xtheamazingax]

AlphaTauri will be the ones to finish 9th, I woulda thought…

[@mayraalejandramoralesqueza5203]

Im agree with Katty. Alonso push the car until a limit that it gets break.eJust like the Redbulls in 2018.

[@henrrryyyy]

Did you guys give Lando a rating for ABCDEF1? It seemed to go Sainz, Ric, Alonso

[@courtneyfrench4374]

Yes. They gave him a B

[@unnamedunbekannt1691]

The Alpha Tauri was so fast on the straights, I am not sure Daniel Ricciardo would have gotten past.

[@bdelsouza]

drs

[@unnamedunbekannt1691]

@@bdelsouza yes, but it is weaker and needed to pass a car with the same speed anyways.

[@GloomGaiGar]

2 seconds faster than most of the field at that point

[@isabelletactor8009]

I love how you guys are never bias towards one of the drivers even though all 3 of you have a favorite driver. Love to listen to your podcast. Keep it up!

[@Chyeahokay]

This is why in my opinion they are the best. They don’t make excuses and say it how it is.

[@suckieduckie]

Katy has a habit of being biased or atleast giving a driver a higher grade because she feels bad for them.

[@man0mule]

i kinda wish they would just let the teams have the option of all 5 tires at all races. would make strategy even more interesting

[@Eric-rf1is]

yeh, but too expensive

[@suckieduckie]

How would that make races more interesting? They will simply always get the right tyres to do a 1 stop.

[@man0mule]

@@suckieduckie teams can barely figure out what tires to use now. Imagine making the choice even harder for them. Plus all the mixed strategies would mean way more overtakes

[@suckieduckie]

@@man0mule RB seem pretty good at selecting the right tyres...

[@dpeterson4222]

Curious to hear each of your thought's about the escalating feud between Red Bull and Sky Sports.

[@GloomGaiGar]

It's gone now lol. Back to business in Brazil.

[@FizziX_88]

They are on Max side on this one. Like every normal F1 fan who isn't a Hamilton fanatic.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

@@FizziX_88 I am kinda surprised why people are mad at Ted but not a crofty. His comments during the dutch GP were way worse lol. Ending with RBR employees and Yuki getting tons of abuse only

[@okthen515]

Tbh don't know what people expect, is not that deep. He doesn't like to talk he stops talking, who cares lol

[@IamHailey8]

So basically now Gasly can now drive and wipe everyone without fear 🤣🤣

[@TheStevieb1983]

damn Katy. Looking like a snack today

[@GloomGaiGar]

Pirelli was the one who made the race relatively uneventful. They admit it too.

[@mizisawesome8442]

Could someone post the timestamps to this podcast in the comments

[@TheLA384]

0:00 start 1:08:28 end

[@joostprins3381]

If they had pitted George, Perez would have pitted too, and the RBR was way faster then the Merc on the softs.

[@7BD273]

there are no guarantees he'd have pitted. and if you force them into a pitstop, it could always go wrong, so its more than nothing...

[@sriramshriananda8076]

Love the pod guys! But I feel like we don’t need three opinions for every discussion point, can get repetitive

[@speedybean8884]

John Surtees perhaps goat on wheels 2or4

[@ftrdrez8273]

I know the grades are for fun but how is Perez getting an A for being 20 seconds of his teammate and not overtaking a slower car with a slower strategy and Alonso gets a B when he was like 10-15 seconds in front of Ocon seconds before his engine started to fail. I am sorry but it does not make any sense at all.

[@VanskyAlleria]

I keep remembering years where the Mercs were 1-2 just about every race unless Max could upset things and get in second. Given where Checo has ended up most races, is it really a dominant Red Bull or a dominant Max?

[@renegerritsen6178]

It is both. Red Bull focus their attention on Max, which is fair, as he is the faster driver of the two. It is just sad that Checo cannot be faster with such a pointy car. I think that teams should not look for the best drivers, but for the best combination of drivers. If you match driving styles, you don't get cases like Checo and Ricciardo: drivers who are not happy with the way their car handles, but since they are 2nd drivers, they have to live with it as the 1st driver defines the development route.

[@VanskyAlleria]

@@renegerritsen6178 True. But if you end up with two great drivers in one team it normally ends in contact. :D

[@scsutton1]

Bad race normally means long podcast, good race means short one. It's honestly all been the other way around this year.

[@BrianFo]

To their nascar comments, that move would never work at any other nascar track. The only reason it worked at that track is due to the really low speeds in the corners and it being a half mile track.

[@slap_k_man1862]

im waiting for the perfect wtf1 podcast still a depressed matt from a Ferrari screw up a cranky tommy and a very Very VERY anger katie lol

[@antonievandermeer34]

Prediction for BrazilGP: Issues due to political chaos, Gasly race ban and Merc P1

[@berkoran]

Except for Merc, looks probable

[@amyorissa]

Joey Dunlop is the 2 Wheel GOAT

[@danbruh33]

WHen will you put time stamps.. everyone puts them now why can’t u also put them

[@swagstag808]

PAIR OF DEEZ NUTS AHAHHAHSHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[@RobertLewis85]

NASCAR won't ban that wall-riding move. Americans love that stuff.

[@MajieB]

Max is looking extremely scary hes on such a different lvl from last year, he was cruising in the front just putting in 1.22s for 44 laps. Also people that said hey its better to start third on the grid in Maxico, yeah that was a lie.

[@PazuChill]

"When we hit our lowest point, we are opened to the greatest change." We saw that with RIC on Sunday. Too bad the whole race was ruined by ALO's DNF.

[@Micah_4D]

Mercedes forced themselves into that tyre strategy. It was difficult to watch and I get why HAM and RUS were unhappy but I don't think they could have afforded the pit stop seeing as RB was going long on the mediums.

[@aprilkurtz1589]

I enjoyed the race...lots of mid-field action. How about that Daniel Ricciardo?

[@Anvil35]

The F1 world needs to keep tabs on the situation in Brazil, things could get messy really quickly

[@hiufgterde]

the entire world is a mess so what does it matter

[@robh9577]

More messy than missile strikes a block away? Lol

[@bobk4438]

I think every F1 race is a 10.