2022 Subaru WRX GT (CVT) - POV Driving Impressions

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TheTopher

TheTopher

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@TheTopher
@TheTopher 2 жыл бұрын
See the 6-speed manual video here: 2022 Subaru WRX Premium (6-Speed Manual) - POV Review kzbin.info/www/bejne/aomqoJmrZ6p5aK8
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 2 жыл бұрын
Completely forgot to mention that CVT WRXs have a different AWD system from the manual cars - Active All-Wheel Drive that changes torque split depending on driver input. Didn’t notice much of a difference in the real world between the two AWD setups, I’ve found Subaru’s active AWD to work great in the snow etc. on other CVT models I’ve tested. Here’s the best explanation I could find on it, from Subaru: An electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch actively manages power distribution and ensures that the wheels with the best traction receive more power. Power transfer is governed by slippage in the clutch plates. The Transmission Control Module (TCM) controls the multi-plate transfer clutch. Active All-Wheel Drive can adjust the power split in an instant, depending on many input factors. If the front wheels begin to slip, the TCM increases hydraulic pressure on the transfer clutch, reducing slippage of the plates and transferring the power to the rear wheels. As the front wheels regain traction, the TCM reduces pressure on the clutch, increasing slippage of the plates and transferring power to the front. The TCM monitors input from speed sensors on the front and rear drive shafts and also takes input from the throttle position and the transmission. All of these factors cause the TCM to select a software strategy that determines how aggressively it adjusts the power distribution. Active All-Wheel Drive varies the power distribution according to driving conditions. When throttle input signals acceleration, the system responds by transferring more power to the rear wheels to account for rearward weight transfer. When releasing the throttle indicates deceleration, power transfers to the front wheels to enhance braking performance. The system enhances cornering performance as well. When the driver lifts off the throttle and applies the brake to enter a turn, power transfers to the front wheels for greater steering control. As the car exits the turn and accelerates, power transfers to the rear wheels for added traction.
@Efreet17
@Efreet17 2 жыл бұрын
@TheTopher what's better choice in ur opinion: wrx cvt or elantra N automatic?
@maso2466
@maso2466 2 жыл бұрын
AWD system is Variable Torque Distribution, not same as Multiplate transfer clutch which equipped for Subaru cars except WRX. 45% for front & 55% for rear centre differential with electrically controlled LSD.
@noob.168
@noob.168 Жыл бұрын
how was it driving summer tires at 41 degrees?
@hellokyle_
@hellokyle_ 2 жыл бұрын
"Little greasy out today. We'll be careful." Goes 60mph+ and redlines it on the ramp. Love it. Thank you for doing a CVT video for this car. Looks really good. Seems better than last generations w/ the CVT.
@MiserableAmerica
@MiserableAmerica 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru things
@Tomas.X
@Tomas.X 2 жыл бұрын
Next time: snow tires, on wet pavement. Just did a quick turn today on my tires and that was too much fun (no.)
@newton2105
@newton2105 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a manual purist by any means, but at least equip the non-manual model with a traditional torque converter automatic if you don’t want to invest in a DCT. CVTs are fine for cars focused on efficiency but don’t really belong in a car like this
@computerguy5437
@computerguy5437 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know why Subaru equipped the VA and VB WRX with the "high torque" cvt
@boomer9517
@boomer9517 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying for years that the wrx and forester xt (when they were a thing) would have been great with a dct
@Trades46
@Trades46 2 жыл бұрын
Simple - Subaru doesn't have a conventional automatic transmissions available and off the shelf units (e.g. the ZF 8spd) won't work with Subaru's proprietary AWD setup.
@TimberWulfIsHere
@TimberWulfIsHere 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trades46 they do. Eaz4 trannies are cheap and plentiful. Subaru have even made a modified version to fit 5 gears. Knock yourself out.
@Vanessinha91Pucca
@Vanessinha91Pucca 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, CVT = Sad Panda in a sport oriented car
@AnthonyLe902
@AnthonyLe902 2 жыл бұрын
This CVT WRX is designed for family guys who have to pickup their kids from school, buy groceries, drive whole family on a weekend road trip, and yet they still loves the looks of WRX, they love the Subaru's sport tradition, love the boxer engine without breaking their bank account by buying a Porsche, a little fun in their 9-5 daily life. No hate on the cvt though, it's literally demanded in many places outside the US. And car enthusiasts literally have manual option available. Why do people keep complaining for having more options?
@serenityinsilence
@serenityinsilence 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly why I’m considering buying the cvt wrx. I had a 2019 wrx with the manual, and loved every minute of it. My commute has a ton of stop and go traffic, so a manual wasn’t ideal. Also having kids makes you change your priorities. I see it as a w that I can buy a wrx that fits my family’s needs.
@kasio22B
@kasio22B 2 жыл бұрын
This episode is like you just wondering around the town of Silent Hill.
@bcatchris
@bcatchris 2 жыл бұрын
I have an Ignition Red Premium SPT! I think its fun with all the different drive modes. I live in Ohio & the remote start has been awesome through the My Subaru App. I also put on Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4. I don't think enough people have driven this new WRX. It's a totally new transmission. This is my daily. It's perfect for my wife and I. It's a great car. The Internet Hates the CVT but in the Real Life its fine! Love this channel Topher!
@lilwank9602
@lilwank9602 2 жыл бұрын
just give it 40k miles for the cvt to explode
@TobySimone
@TobySimone 2 жыл бұрын
Nah CVT WRX still sucks. Way too expensive for what you get.
@TheCldmstrsn
@TheCldmstrsn 2 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the only trim where you could change drive modes was the GT Trim. If the other trims with an SPT gives you different modes I am sold.
@intellectualazzkickins5874
@intellectualazzkickins5874 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilwank9602 Has a 100,000 mile warranty 😉
@botandrew1
@botandrew1 2 жыл бұрын
Don't listen criticism, my friend. If you happy what you have, be glad what you have it. Stay positive
@ROBBBIIINNN
@ROBBBIIINNN 2 жыл бұрын
I love my SPT VB.I can’t drive manual due to shoulder surgery but I hate the stigma Auto car drivers are put in for liking an “enthusiast” car.I get manuals are funner but it doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy the car either.Subaru knocked it out the park with this “SPT” so kudos to them and bless anyone else out there who doesn’t feel like “getting a wilderness would be better than getting a SPT wrx” kind of a slap in the face.
@adamrozman
@adamrozman 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, paddle shift response actually looks pretty decent. Was always curious to know how the CVT in these drove, thanks!
@CJBMAGGOT94
@CJBMAGGOT94 2 жыл бұрын
It looks decent because it doesn't actually do anything.
@dave_riots
@dave_riots 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJBMAGGOT94 It actually does force a tiny bit more power out of the engine, but a major tradeoff is more wear on the CVT.
@adamrozman
@adamrozman 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJBMAGGOT94 CVT shifting is pointless and just for show, but clicking the paddle in this car does correlate with a physical change in the belt of the transmission to change the torque ratio. Still responsive between the paddle and that change
@TimothyJavier
@TimothyJavier 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you need to shift a CVT? Don't you want max RPM all the time you're full throttle?
@CJBMAGGOT94
@CJBMAGGOT94 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamrozman I highly doubt they would make it do anything transmission wise. I bet its just engine tuning. CVT’s are far to fragile to handle the constant “shifting”.
@shad3128
@shad3128 2 жыл бұрын
As much as people wanna hate it, subaru will expand their sales a lot on this having a cvt for the day in and out drivers and enthusiasts can still go manual. The lower trim options with the cvt paired brand new still come out pretty affordable for someone who likes the car but isnt obsessed with tuning it or the gearbox. I know a few neighbors who traded civics and FWD golfs in for these and they arent disappointed at all
@andreybrovkin1294
@andreybrovkin1294 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the most responsive cvt I've seen?? What??? Looks pretty sharp, shifts look dct like! I daily a manual but this definitely is mych better than i expected or any cvt for that matter
@thankyou9085
@thankyou9085 2 жыл бұрын
Its probably the way it is tuned and programmed my guess
@WreckFatal
@WreckFatal 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they tuned it to look like it is actually shifting gears now. In reality tho when it fake shifts it is slowing your car down lmao
@andreybrovkin1294
@andreybrovkin1294 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisg5101 glad to hear!
@LusciousNDelish
@LusciousNDelish 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the WRX GT came with a 6 speed, I understand their approach trying to make it a "touring car" but man I love those seats.
@Notorious1000RR
@Notorious1000RR 2 жыл бұрын
yea i was hoping u could order the 6spd with those seats as like add on upgrade somthing
@josephs1701
@josephs1701 2 жыл бұрын
I own one with a CVT if anyone has any questions. Best auto transmission I've used ever (I've only owned mainstream / nonluxury brands, but over 7). I really love this car!!
@khelgarironfist3301
@khelgarironfist3301 2 жыл бұрын
Fuel consumption and general maintenance costs?
@josephs1701
@josephs1701 2 жыл бұрын
@@khelgarironfist3301 Fuel consumption isn’t great, I’d say I get 17-21 City depending how I drive, and up to 26-27 on the Highway. Maintenance costs for the CVT I would factor in an additional 1k the life of the car, changing CVT fluid at a dealer will probably run you 300-400 each time. I personally recommend it at 40k/80k but some would argue that’s overkill
@josephs1701
@josephs1701 2 жыл бұрын
@@khelgarironfist3301 general maintenance costs, only 2k miles in so I’m not sure yet! From the handbook, looks about average.
@khelgarironfist3301
@khelgarironfist3301 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephs1701 well good to know. From the specs, it seems like WRX has a bit bigger fuel tank than the regular Impreza. So i'm guessing you get about 500km/310 miles of range or something. Small tanks are annoying tbh.
@croisant772
@croisant772 Жыл бұрын
would you say its a good choice for someone who doesnt wanna drive manual but wants to get the full experience the wrx can offer? do you feel like manual is really worth it?
@azca.
@azca. 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely love the CVT and would recommend it to anyone!
@A_guan
@A_guan 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best cvt I've ever seen. If manufacturers put this cvt in all their cars and other econoboxes I wouldn't hate them as much
@WreckFatal
@WreckFatal 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a good cvt but a cvt isn’t good lol
@davidlake611
@davidlake611 2 жыл бұрын
If it fakes shifts, “shifts” early and doesn’t keep at the redline, why not just put in a torque converter and avoid the enthusiast hate??
@A_guan
@A_guan 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidlake611 my thoughts exactly. I still wouldn't buy this because I know it's a cvt and I'd probably have to leave it in sport mode all the time
@A_guan
@A_guan 2 жыл бұрын
@@WreckFatal agreed. Cvts are still terrible don't get me wrong. Manuals are way superior
@rusher38
@rusher38 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the CVT looks like it "shifts" quicker with the paddles than some TC autos. For a balance of engagement and comfort, it doesn't seem that bad. It looks responsive enough to take to the track and to work the next day.
@dreamernawid
@dreamernawid 2 жыл бұрын
It’s quicker because it literally isn’t doing anything other than making the owner feel better about buying a sports car with a CVT.
@WreckFatal
@WreckFatal 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah when it shifts it is actually slowing the engine down to make you feel like you have a regular auto transmission. Not helping the car at all it’s actually slowing you down
@ks-bg5uk
@ks-bg5uk 2 жыл бұрын
@@WreckFatal The numbers say other wise. The GT is actually faster than the manual from 0-60.
@WreckFatal
@WreckFatal 2 жыл бұрын
@@ks-bg5uk not saying that the CVT is slower than the manual I’m saying that by taking shifts it is wasting it’s time. Would be even faster if it weren’t trying to act like an automatic transmission
@ks-bg5uk
@ks-bg5uk 2 жыл бұрын
@@WreckFatal The manual has proven to lose track time during shifts. The CVT is actually faster than the manual in short distances like a 0-60 time.
@Coldstreamer17
@Coldstreamer17 3 ай бұрын
Every single person I've seen who asks "why would you get a WRX with a CVT?" hates the CVT. Then they drive it and love it. It seems weird, but believe me once you actually drive it, you'd be surprised!
@TheBigNate505
@TheBigNate505 2 жыл бұрын
Actually impressive how fast it shifts ratios. Looks like it has gears.
@robertgretter9452
@robertgretter9452 Жыл бұрын
CVT is awesome...on a snowmobile.
@westleyvanzant
@westleyvanzant 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how close this is priced compared to the new Type R now that its own price is revealed. Despite costing so similarly, it's really wild how much the Type R and WRX have diverged in target demographic etc. In the last generation they seemed to be far more directly competing with each other.
@austinobambino1360
@austinobambino1360 2 жыл бұрын
@Alex WRX had 60-100 more horsepower than the Si lmao, not competitors and no reviewers would ever suggest that. WRX and Type R were direct competitors.
@remasher
@remasher 2 жыл бұрын
They are still competition, it's just that this one is priced for idiots.
@ks-bg5uk
@ks-bg5uk 2 жыл бұрын
@Alex But this isn't a standard wrx...it's a GT. The options available make the GT high priced. Weather people think its too much or not doesn't bother Subaru.
@DragonKnightX12
@DragonKnightX12 Жыл бұрын
@Alex The GT cost the same as the new CTR, both MSRP for $44k. That’s what the OP was getting it. Not sure why you think the Si is direct competitor though. It’s in the class below the WRX with the Jetta GLI, NA Mazda 3, and the super budget KDMs. Maybe could of argued the coupe vs the crappy Gen 1 BRZ. The upcoming Impreza RS would be a Si direct competitor, but the Gen 2 BRZ blows the Si away. WRX was always at least on level with the GTI, Mazda 3 Turbo, and Focus ST. Which I would argue the former are still its direct competitors.
@elenchus
@elenchus Жыл бұрын
@@DragonKnightX12 People have considered the WRX and Civic SI direct competitors since the WRX’s introduction to the American market. You can find hundreds of major magazine comparisons over the years between the WRX, SI, GTI and various other, less permanent, options like the Focus ST, Cobalt SS etc. The Civic SI is usually down on horsepower yet often wins these comparisons based on other factors; the segment cannot be reduced down to simply horsepower. Most car reviewers (for whatever that’s worth) still prefer the new Civic SI to the new WRX, although both are pretty well loved. That said, the STI and CTR coexisted (in America) so briefly that I’m not sure I’d consider them historically competitive…I can’t speak to how people in Japan viewed them.
@kristialstafa5391
@kristialstafa5391 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 subaru wrx premium cvt, and as a european who was grown with manual, i admit, that i love my automatic subaru, fast, responsive, it's perfect, much better than the manual one
@Tomas.X
@Tomas.X 2 жыл бұрын
My MPG (GT) = 28 mpg when it was warm in September-October...and since it suddenly dropped to more reasonable cold her in Wiaconsin = 22.4 mpg. Honestly believe people should never complain about MPG if they never figure out how to get it. Hint: with the GT's adaptive cruise, I can drive nearly anywhere outside city areas with CC on and engaged, disengaging when stopping, then re-engaging. All the buttons are under your thumb. The car stays in its lane, maintains speed, and maintains following distance, but will auto-brake when needed. It is FUN doing this. I returned from Thanksgiving with family today - about 35 miles mixed driving in 35 degree/famous conditions - and used CC the entire drive. The continuous MPG tucked UP another .3, and I'm now about empty. That's phenomenal. I can do so much more with my GT and ride cush soft to sport stiff, choose steering feel, throttle response, set my own customized performance combination...and get better MPG...and except for a 6 speed slipping a clutch hard...I can do it all faster than a 6 speed. Honestly, I can't understand choosing the manual.
@ngpdestroyer4097
@ngpdestroyer4097 9 ай бұрын
Great share of your experience. Still leaning to the manual but the extr 2 - 3 k for SPT isnt off the table yet.
@rileylewis5.0
@rileylewis5.0 2 жыл бұрын
7:00 of course the fusion is changing lines to the right with his left turn signal on 😂
@stephenandirenel9786
@stephenandirenel9786 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a crosstrek and forester both with CVT for several years. Had driven Golf R's DSG and the BMW's ZF 8 speed. Got the new WRX SPT / CVT recently and honestly their CVT has come a long way. The simulated shifts in S and S+ modes in auto or manual mode are quick and responsive, very much comparable to DSG but not as violent as the ZF. It's a good handling car with a rigid chassis and good power. My major gripe about the new WRX is the poor fuel economy in city driving...I'm getting 14.5L/100km in "i" mode (Canada)
@detaart
@detaart Жыл бұрын
That's horrible fuel economy lol. I'm getting 6.1L/100km in mixed driving in Belgium from my mx5. Considering Belgium is just basically one big city, i'd say that's pretty good.
@dopplepopoulis
@dopplepopoulis Жыл бұрын
lol the CVT is not close to the DSG in the R in any way. How fast the simulated shifts are is meaningless, since they do nothing. And that fuel economy, which is the main reason for using CVT, is awful.
@Allcarnews
@Allcarnews 2 жыл бұрын
For a “CVT” …. it’s dare i say impressive? The “shifts” are pretty fast even if it’s just a change in ratio of the pulley.. nonetheless for what it is i think it’s great. Still manual tho
@SirCherbs
@SirCherbs Жыл бұрын
As someone who has driven auto trucks my whole life and is finally able to buy a sporty car (I needed a truck for work but have a corporate job now) the WRX GT was really appealing. I have bad knees (particularly the left) so daily driving a manual simply isn’t an option for me. I’m really glad to see that the CVT in this car seems like it would still be fun for me, and better than previous iterations. It still cracks me up that so many people shit all over auto/cvt sports cars, particularly the WRX. As if Subaru, a multi-billion dollar international corporation, cares what a few redditors and youtube commenters think. You don’t like it? Fine, don’t buy it then. This trim clearly caters to an older demographic with a little bit of money that wants to have some fun on the way to work, while still having modern assistance systems like lane keep and ACC as standard with the trim level. I would consider something like an Audi S3, but I do a bit of driving on unpaved roads, so seems like a bad call. The only thing that is really putting me off is the uncomfortable Recaro’s. Seems like an odd choice to be standard on the more mature GT trim level. Thanks for the informative video Topher!
@KingCobra_45
@KingCobra_45 Жыл бұрын
I traded in my 2018 legacy for the GT and I didn't want a manual. Knees,Traffic, and no eyes sight was a no go for me. I've had the car for five days now, and I'm happy with it.
@dopplepopoulis
@dopplepopoulis Жыл бұрын
I don't want a manual either, and manual snobs are tiresome. The problem is, some of the competition has good autos or DCTs. CVT is the worst possible transmission option for a car like this.
@kimmyymmik
@kimmyymmik Жыл бұрын
Haha you nailed it. I’m a mom with a 10 year old and a 9 year old, I didn’t wanna drive a mom car anymore so I got this and it’s perfect. My kids love it! I don’t need anything more 😂
@cav1991
@cav1991 2 жыл бұрын
I have a blue 22 GT WRX. The SPT in this car is phenomenal. I agree with everything he says. I drive it in sport mode daily, sport plus when I want to unlock its full power. I’ve had my car since august. Wanna drive even faster? Put it on sport plus manual mode, upshift to 2nd gear and build boost in the mid high rpm’s and FLOOR THAT SUCKER. MUCH BIGGER BOOST IN ACCELERATION.
@initialgm
@initialgm 2 жыл бұрын
Factory ordered a WRX GT a month ago, I'm excited for it even though the CVT is controversial. Appreciate the review since there's not too many on here for the GT
@cav1991
@cav1991 2 жыл бұрын
I placed an order back in march. Arrived August. 10000% happy with this car. You’ll love it!!
@initialgm
@initialgm 2 жыл бұрын
@@cav1991 Actually picked it up 2 days ago, absolutely love it so far. No regrets at all
@cav1991
@cav1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@initialgm YAYY!! Welcome to the 22 WRX FAM 🤙🏽🤘🏽
@initialgm
@initialgm 2 жыл бұрын
@@cav1991 appreciate it bro!🙏
@WillemVerb
@WillemVerb 2 жыл бұрын
So weird of them not to offer the nice seats, suspension etc in the manual. Feels like they're punishing the enthusiasts who really want to buy this car, and probably want the manual.
@ks-bg5uk
@ks-bg5uk 2 жыл бұрын
They do offer nice seats in the Limited manual cars.
@KingCobra_45
@KingCobra_45 Жыл бұрын
You can have nice seats In the other trims ,but nit the Recaros 😂
@lexbraxman9270
@lexbraxman9270 2 жыл бұрын
Love the interior especially that steering wheel
@trentonjohnson4600
@trentonjohnson4600 2 жыл бұрын
My only thing about this car… 3k more… You get cooled seats DCT heads up display controllable awd system and a engine that can really handle tunes. A golf R makes so much more since imo. Also a lot more power. Forgot to add that.
@TheCldmstrsn
@TheCldmstrsn 2 жыл бұрын
I think its just good to have options. With my back issues I can no longer get a manual car, so I really appreciate having the option to get an automatic. You can also turn off all beeping noises in the settings. Honestly really thinking of the getting the Limited WRX with the SPT for the softer seats and not pay so much.
@cargdrac
@cargdrac Жыл бұрын
If it's not much of an intrusion, what are the aspects that you avoid in a manual to discomfort your back? I recently developed a disc hernia and have been a little afraid to get a sporty manual car. I went to test drive this year's model, and they only had it in CVT, suspension was firm but good enough, but I felt there was something wrong with the brake of that demo car since it was the hardest I've tried. Salesman assured me it was fine but it was nothing compared to the previous generation.
@carljohnson7
@carljohnson7 2 жыл бұрын
I never understood the hate of CVT but if the person buys a sport car with auto auto transmission then more power to them I guess, I can see why companies are adding them to their lineup, not a lot of people don’t drive manuals anymore
@snail415
@snail415 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Civic EX-T owner of 5 years, and have the CVT. I’ve owned 6 manual cars and can row with the best of them. I don’t miss it much. The right engine paired with a well-programmed CVT just works better than most will ever admit. Sure I could use better throttle tip-in, but that’s nothing on the transmission and can be resolved with a tune. No regrets for me.
@jimmyglea
@jimmyglea 2 жыл бұрын
He keeps saying $43,000, but the OTD is just a hair under $46,000. Totally worth it IMO.
@Teddingtin
@Teddingtin 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they lock so many enthusiast options behind the CVT just makes no sense…
@Mike_Hartman
@Mike_Hartman 2 жыл бұрын
A dual clutch auto would be great. Though not sure it would be worth it to them for just one trim line of one model.
@technochook
@technochook Жыл бұрын
Mans out here in silent hill test driving cars
@kevinnz617
@kevinnz617 2 жыл бұрын
I think one thing you could've talked about was how the cvt can also come with the lower trims so then it only costs 2k more than the manual counter part not 10k.
@tylerc4229
@tylerc4229 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen it in person, but that black clading around the wheels makes it look like it was built in the late 90's
@brandondannys-menary3678
@brandondannys-menary3678 2 жыл бұрын
Hated it at first, now I love it since it won’t get paint chips on gravel roads. Looks overall are growing on me as well
@yoshikobayashi7643
@yoshikobayashi7643 2 жыл бұрын
VA STI owner here, that is more "mature" (54). I wanted a WRX S4 like they have back home in Japan but they did not have them here, so I bought the STI since I live in the US (Happy with my purchase). However, If I were going this route, I think I would rather get an Outback XT, as you said, more room, more comfort, more luxury, less money and equal performance (couple tenths of a second difference but if you're getting the CVT tenths of a second don't mean that much to you)
@1209MArky
@1209MArky 2 жыл бұрын
Over 40k idk why anyone would get this over a Golf R or GR corolla assuming MSRP
@normaspirated
@normaspirated 2 жыл бұрын
So for an extra
@bmwmsport11
@bmwmsport11 2 жыл бұрын
The real question is: is there lag between drive/reverse? That was the absolute biggest issue I had with my Subaru CVT. Trying to do a 3 point turn or backing out of a spot was enraging when you tap on the gas and nothing happens
@tellyawhatmate
@tellyawhatmate Жыл бұрын
Test drove this exact model today. (I own a 2018 STI) Think its recieved a bad wrap because people are hoping for a raw high performance AWD. Its not a WRX, what it is, is a really comfortable, quiet, mid range car. The cvt was responsive and a huge improvement over last gen. Super comfy and would make a great daily if u have something fast tucked away. I would not buy this with the hope of modding.
@JulioHernandez-ow3ve
@JulioHernandez-ow3ve 2 жыл бұрын
This KZbin update godly
@CrispyMC
@CrispyMC 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, as far as fake CVT shifts go, this one’s pretty impressive. Doesn’t excuse the lack of a traditional auto or DCT though, but not as awful as expected.
@boxer4engine
@boxer4engine 10 ай бұрын
That "SPT" looks impressive with the virtual shifts. MT will still be the gem for enthusiasts. If they can somehow apply that SPT to their other big sellers like the Crosstrek and Forester Subaru can be the CVT king
@Zipfei_Kloatscher
@Zipfei_Kloatscher 2 жыл бұрын
YES! Finally a nice and beautiful CVT on a WRX! I'm so super-pumped for this, I can't even express my joy! 😀😀😀👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@alexs3187
@alexs3187 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@Hamsterz380
@Hamsterz380 2 жыл бұрын
Though it’s a CVT, the engine actually sounds pretty good
@garo919
@garo919 2 жыл бұрын
i was literally searching for a vid about the wrx gt a few days ago and was bummed that you didn't have a video on it and now i see this on my home page
@oliverroo59
@oliverroo59 2 жыл бұрын
I've driven one of these a few times. It is definitely the best CVT I've ever driven (and maybe the best CVT ever mass produced) - enough to make me take back the eyeball-rolling when I heard that Subaru was calling it an SPT. Having said that, this car still feels like a WRX - which has always felt somewhat like an economy car - so $44k for it is way, way too much. I think Subaru will eventually trickle the adaptive stuff down to less expensive models.
@azca.
@azca. 2 жыл бұрын
Well if anything, I don't know how to drive manual and don't think I will. WRX has been my dream car and I'm finally going to buy one now that it has the CVT. It's nice for people like me
@toobigtofit3584
@toobigtofit3584 2 жыл бұрын
@@azca. If you have a friend that's willing to teach you, why not try? I got a 22 WRX Limited as my first manual car, and I've been getting around fine with it. It'll be a bit tricky at first, but you'll get used to it faster than you think.
@noob.168
@noob.168 2 жыл бұрын
I commute un traffic jams 2-3 hrs a day. No thanks. Why wrx then? Cuz we can only afford 1 car and still want a fun one for weekends
@toobigtofit3584
@toobigtofit3584 2 жыл бұрын
@@noob.168 Yeah totally a valid reason to get the CVT (I just got out of a 4 hour traffic jam in my MT WRX and it sucked). I'm just saying if the only reason why someone is apprehensive about getting a MT WRX is that they don't know how to drive it, the learning process isn't that bad.
@bbarnard91able
@bbarnard91able 2 жыл бұрын
Was about to buy 22wrx but last minute changed mind to a new legacy xt. Still has the 2.4t but more space and comfort. I’m happy with it.
@zeke7288
@zeke7288 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru confuses me, I mean why tweak and put the effort into making a CVT feel like an TC auto… when you can just put the automatic transmission in the first place?
@Montana270
@Montana270 2 жыл бұрын
It's cheaper
@wicked8118
@wicked8118 2 жыл бұрын
CVT in this car is better than any Nissan or hybrid CVT. Game changer! I hope to see this trans in other Subarus.
@WreckFatal
@WreckFatal 2 жыл бұрын
I hope to see CVTs go extinct
@wicked8118
@wicked8118 2 жыл бұрын
@@WreckFatal They aren't going away, so this is better than what they currently offer.
@8kdrei
@8kdrei 2 жыл бұрын
I always found it weird how Subaru said the automatic is based on the golf but there were 0 review units with the automatic when KZbinrs got them 💀
@cmasupra
@cmasupra 2 жыл бұрын
I found the Limited too stiff. Does the GT in comfort suspension mode feel luxurious? If so, I may have to wait for Subaru to put the adaptive suspension in a manual trim. Either that, or get an Integra for cheaper, though I prefer the shape & exterior of the WRX.
@TalonV9
@TalonV9 2 жыл бұрын
Was watching these in my car with my Air pods pro. Spatial audio had me tripping out cause it sounded so real
@ozarkaviation
@ozarkaviation Жыл бұрын
This is what the Integra CVT should be like
@ThePatriots010304
@ThePatriots010304 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 WRX Limited CVT and the only way to drive it is in sport or sport + in manual mode with the paddle shifters.
@gabechannelyt8470
@gabechannelyt8470 2 жыл бұрын
Did anybody notice the C8 corvette in the side view mirror at 11:43
@runneralpha6274
@runneralpha6274 2 жыл бұрын
Me and girlfriend have the manual and cvt 2015 and we drive the cvt always in "manual" mode and we suprisingly drive the cvt the most, after 120k miles the cvt and motor still rock solid. For us the only way to drive the cvt are in manual mode and in all the reviews we watch nobody try the "manual" mode like you 😂
@armandocardona6975
@armandocardona6975 2 жыл бұрын
This transmission is pretty good! Just test drove one
@plightn
@plightn 2 жыл бұрын
Is the outback wilderness better insulated from road noise? Would you say the WRX CVT is better tuned than the Wilderness?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes 👍
@spawn11
@spawn11 2 жыл бұрын
This car over BMW 3 series and Merc C class anyday.
@wardellward
@wardellward 2 жыл бұрын
They totally reinvented the 2022 Subaru WRX
@tonyzhu403
@tonyzhu403 2 жыл бұрын
I would actually have to thank the Subaru Team for pushing me to purchase and drive a Manual Daily. If the WRX was offered with an Amazing Automatic, the story might be different.
@fantomphoenix6170
@fantomphoenix6170 Жыл бұрын
Really comparing apples to cucumbers here but in the Honda CRZ CVT it doesn’t have preset shifts in automatic mode, only when using paddle shifters. Wish they went the sane direction with this.
@igoresque
@igoresque 2 жыл бұрын
5:52 are rear lights not required to be on in such low visibility conditions in US? Those cars just appeared out of nowhere, scary stuff.
@iWallyMont89
@iWallyMont89 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this review!!
@buriburimaccho
@buriburimaccho 2 жыл бұрын
Nice SPT WRX !!! NICE "Fake DCT" Response and...PERFORMANCE!!
@SandViper94Gaming
@SandViper94Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with other comments. At least add a DCT... The one in the i30ns is phenomenal!!
@RichardjYouTube
@RichardjYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@aaronreed9863
@aaronreed9863 Жыл бұрын
Just drove one two days ago. It was impressive and i almost bought it. Just not right financially right now, nothing about the car.
@simassidlauskas995
@simassidlauskas995 2 жыл бұрын
So now that the Civic Type R pricing is out, this or the new Civic Type R as the price is the same??? I'm sure it depends on where you live, but some good winter tires on the Civic? :D
@seffseffseffseffseff1662
@seffseffseffseffseff1662 2 жыл бұрын
300- lbs, 40+ hp, 30+ lbft Wrx forever, but the CTR is a no brainer
@seffseffseffseffseff1662
@seffseffseffseffseff1662 2 жыл бұрын
@Alex forgot about that lol, dang markups 😭
@ffh2303
@ffh2303 2 жыл бұрын
Would you view the transmission and car in a better light if Subaru used the same torque converter AT from the BRZ in this WRX?
@Teddingtin
@Teddingtin 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@BahhJustaLamb
@BahhJustaLamb 2 жыл бұрын
I would, but I also doubt that could happen. The AT from the BRZ has an architecture that would only really work for a RWD application. From what I can tell, to modify the BRZ AT to fit the WRX's AWD setup (and reinforce it to handle the torque in that application) would be tantamount to the cost of designing a whole new AT for the WRX. Personally, I think that they should've used the CVT for all the low-powered cars, and then designed a real AT for ALL of the turbocharged models (Legacy XT, Outback XT/Wilderness, WRX/STI, Ascent). This way, they wouldn't have the risk of making a bespoke AT for a low volume WRX, but all of their higher performance and offroad vehicles would've been MUCH more robust at the same time. To me, a CVT simply doesn't belong in any vehicle surpassing 200HP and 200lb/ft of torque unless it is helped SIGNIFICANTLY by an electric drive (A la Rav4 Prime).
@KuppionOG
@KuppionOG 2 жыл бұрын
man new car with CVT whine already lol gotta love it
@aptkeyboard3173
@aptkeyboard3173 2 жыл бұрын
Not offering adaptive dampers on the stick shift was a mistake in my opinion. I would’ve gone up a trim level if that had been available lol
@jkandybar
@jkandybar Жыл бұрын
100% agree on the seats. I sat in a GT at the dealer. Way too much bolstering, hard as a rock, and uncomfortable. I’m 5’10”, 165lbs so hardly a big dude. The limited seats are super comfortable.
@KingCobra_45
@KingCobra_45 Жыл бұрын
Im 6"3 240 and I've driven track cars and bikes. This GT reminded me of the track somewhat. Besides I traded in my legacy for it and the seats are the fist stand out, but no schedule long road trips anytime soon
@tonyzhu403
@tonyzhu403 2 жыл бұрын
The CVT does seem very responsive, although it does seem to do odd shifts? (12:26) From what I can see, the launch from stand still is nowhere as aggressive as the Manual.
@RealNameNeverUsed
@RealNameNeverUsed 2 жыл бұрын
It downshifted a couple times as he braked hard. Which I thought was pretty cool.
@tonyzhu403
@tonyzhu403 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealNameNeverUsed and then it upshift and downshift again? Seems a bit over reactive to me. Just my opinion though.
@heazy87
@heazy87 2 жыл бұрын
How is the WRX compared to the new integra interior space wise and ride height? I felt like i had to pull myself up to get out of the integra is the WRX better?
@bbbt8090
@bbbt8090 2 жыл бұрын
All this needed was a true DCT or ZF 8speed like in BMW's
@88Studio
@88Studio 2 жыл бұрын
That shoes clap tho XD
@williamlong2682
@williamlong2682 2 жыл бұрын
I’m working part time as a service valet at a Subaru dealer here in Seattle and surprisingly I’ve actually seen a few CVT WRX’s come in. I guess there’s some subset of people, however small, that just like the “vibe” of it without wanting to shift for themselves. Wouldn’t be my personal choice, don’t get me wrong, but I guess Subaru figures better to have some automatic than none at all 🤷‍♂️
@santospinedacastillo4725
@santospinedacastillo4725 2 жыл бұрын
It's my daily driver and I live in a trafficky and manuals are a pain to drive here; fun enough and the eyesight system is life changing.. I'd rather play with a project manual for the track to get my gear rolling fix.
@tfeltmat2903
@tfeltmat2903 2 жыл бұрын
The last passenger car I bought has a manual because the only other option was a CVT. I know that as time goes on, CVT's will get better. But the last thing I need is to overpay for a car (nowadays) and then have to spend $8000 on a new transmission about the time that it's paid off. You can't repair a f'd-up CVT, you have to replace them. So until CVT's reliably have the same average lifespan that a traditional torque converter automatic has, I'll always give them the stink eye.
@codenamev99
@codenamev99 2 жыл бұрын
Got the limited one with manual transmission few weeks ago and im happy with it
@canadious6933
@canadious6933 2 жыл бұрын
You know, my next car might be a wrx cvt, but after hearing about the upcoming impreza RS, it would be a very close contender. Oh the options are nice for me
@vntamed700
@vntamed700 2 жыл бұрын
They should put a DCT in a WRX. Would be pretty competitive.
@jimmmyz169
@jimmmyz169 2 жыл бұрын
that's a big ol' auto stick in the middle. I thought the days of those would be over by now, lol
@R1S0.
@R1S0. 2 жыл бұрын
i love that steering wheel with real matte buttons...i love those clean easy to read analog gauges.... i love that blind spot monitor on the body of rwm instead of mirror iself.... overall interior design despite that tablet.... at least there are buttons for temp and defrost.... i love alcantara seats ( no matter the form, no leather), i dont mind that cvt with fake shifting.... without that it would be a no go.... and all that extrea good subaru stuff as a bonus... i really like this car.
@seanrmccoy
@seanrmccoy 2 жыл бұрын
I've warmed up to the new WRX quite a bit. I think the play is to hold onto my '21 WRX for a few years and see what they do with the refresh on this. If they can bring the adjustable dampers down to a manual model I'd jump on that in a heartbeat.
@amador4417
@amador4417 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on still holding a what is considered rare now 21 WRX, I want to love the new gen but it's just the back that slaps me. I might just have to look at used STI/WRX until maybe they re model it hopefully.
@alengreen589
@alengreen589 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru gave everything to build a Amazing new WRX and thats the result of it.
@laithali8004
@laithali8004 2 жыл бұрын
You’re the man
@FOSTER_KEHD
@FOSTER_KEHD 4 ай бұрын
Very cool. Thank you.
@jimmmyz169
@jimmmyz169 2 жыл бұрын
12:19 Edit: A pull is always my first curiosity before I can enjoy more relaxed content :D
@whatsindansgarage2542
@whatsindansgarage2542 2 жыл бұрын
Cvt is such a deal breaker. Mazda 3 GT is the choice. Cvt is not bad but definitely not suit for a type of car that is designed for enthusiasts.
@maso2466
@maso2466 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review for showing what SPT has. I understood the recaro and adaptive damper want to have the manual model. I guess that many enthusists going to have coilovers and more aggressive backet seats. So such kind of high trim manual shold be limited share.
@saucyp123
@saucyp123 2 жыл бұрын
Am I seeing things, or is the tach needle actually moving faster than the engine RPMs? On upshifts, it looks like the RPM needle is slamming down to the target revs of a "gear" before the engine actually makes it there.
@RealNameNeverUsed
@RealNameNeverUsed 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Audi or BMW did this RPM trickery recently so you’re not seeing things.
@Juan_Carlos_2003
@Juan_Carlos_2003 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Is the suspension too stiff for daily driving with family and children?
@Cerby1979
@Cerby1979 2 жыл бұрын
A CVT in a WRX is an absolute insult.
@racinR
@racinR Жыл бұрын
Looks nice. I'm trying to convince my fiance to get the new wrx.
@Nice-wf2xd
@Nice-wf2xd 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question so if I got the base model with the cvt it’s the same as this but without the extra goodies and adaptive dampers right but I still get the sport mode and stuff like that?
@Alex-Kelly
@Alex-Kelly 2 жыл бұрын
i’m pretty sure you’d still get sport mode. My limited trim CVT has three drive modes: Intelligent, Sport, Sport #
@ikGREENY
@ikGREENY Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people like driving manual if automatic is faster
@tronpapadop6461
@tronpapadop6461 9 ай бұрын
Was that and orange ZR Vette behind you?
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