This is probably the comparison I wanted the most this year! Super happy it happened. For the money, I would take the CT4-V Blackwing.
@GSX455s Жыл бұрын
I went with the Blackwing in the same color and 6mt as well lol, Im not surprised. BMW is notorious for under rating the power. My 335i definitely had more than the 300hp advertised.
@ناصرالن Жыл бұрын
The kedelak driver, please, should not race. Every race he takes, he loses. I think his driving is bad.
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
@@ناصرالن can you please type in English? I don’t understand anything.
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
@@GSX455s small tune and you will have a monster
@regal022 Жыл бұрын
I went for the M3 xDrive. Made the most sense to enjoy the (no speed limit) on the German autobahn. Plus is absolutely amazing on small and twisty country roads. Thanks for this comparison and congrats on being the only one with it!
@jdl92264 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see you switch drivers (especially when comparing manual transmissions) to see if driver's skill affects the results.
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
That’s the dumbest idea. The owner of the M3 would make the BW look better?
@jdl92264 Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegionWhy not? You think all driver's are equally skilled?
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
@@jdl92264 this race went exactly how it was supposed to. Times online are equally.
@BPR-IronCurtain Жыл бұрын
It's not a dumb idea. Some of the people you have on here are absolutely terrible drivers yourself included lol. There is plenty of driver error each video.
@BPR-IronCurtain Жыл бұрын
@@pakaloolakp they are all bad drivers. At least it gives you a real world comparison for when you race on the street lol
@polo3433 Жыл бұрын
Was you utilizing the no lift shift? It seems you was losing way more ground on each shift.
@MrGierigegast Жыл бұрын
12:52
@inflatedmann6 ай бұрын
He was not keeping his foot on the gas all the way through the video look closely
@Freddy_Confetti16 күн бұрын
@@MrGierigegast why is he lifting his right foot up every time he shifts though lol
@Bernardjoon Жыл бұрын
You should also swap drivers to see if it makes a difference, the m3 owner probably way more used to his car than sam is to the ct4
@memememine1 Жыл бұрын
No the ct4v is just that disappointing. I test drive one at Laguna seca for a Cadillac event. And this is coming from an ex camaro ss 1le owner I would take every opportunity to praise gm performance. My base 3.4L 911 with 350hp and no torque accelerates basically as fast as the ct4v black wing. The ct4v black wing gets outrun in a straight line by the m340i let alone anything with an s58. The ct4v is a nearly perfect car in every other way it just has a competley disappointing engine.
@SteveBrueck Жыл бұрын
Our ATS-V'S have the LF4 engine like the 4 BW. $2500 in parts, e85, and a tune and you gain 200 whp. We have one making 630 whp and another making right at 700 whp. I bought both cars for the price of one BMW.
@watsonanthony84388 ай бұрын
@@SteveBrueckthere goes your warranty 😅😅😅
@SteveBrueck8 ай бұрын
One was out of warranty when we bought it, and the other one was quickly out of warranty almost as soon as I bought it, and it only had 11k miles.
@DippinItUp1 Жыл бұрын
having driven both the ct4 v blackwing is the far more engaging and fun driving experience and the caddys tremec puts the m3s manual to shame.
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
RS3 is better than both nowadays imo!
@DippinItUp1 Жыл бұрын
@@germanengineering204 not at all. The Audi doesn’t have the chassis of the ct4 v bw nor the big power of the s58 in the m3. I find the RS cars to be pretty boring and mundane to drive like most other VAG cars.
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
@@DippinItUp1 I agree with a lot of what you said, but RS3 is a better all arounder! Better all weather daily driver, and better sound! It's a little better bang for your buck especially when compared to the M3 imo!!
@wesleywalls7582 Жыл бұрын
@@germanengineering204RS3 is not a comparison being auto only, and FWD chassis to boot.
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
@@wesleywalls7582 Just a friendly comparison! I'm a fan of all three cars, and currently own a new M240i xdrive! Definitely not biased towards Audi!
@alexoubre7776 Жыл бұрын
Caddy vs M340 woulda been a better pick
@jeffa.8976 Жыл бұрын
M340 also does a 12.2
@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffa.8976 because its 4wd
@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr Жыл бұрын
@jeffa.8976 that m3 manual has more topend then a m340i for a fact
@nunnaurbidness3209 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you can get the M340 in a manual.
@oddomadic Жыл бұрын
@@nunnaurbidness3209 you can't
@reloadingdontshoot1 Жыл бұрын
M3's are just built different. Love the Blackwing but M3's are special
@christopherpickens1478 Жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate on what you mean by being "built different"
@jkengine02 Жыл бұрын
@christopherpickens1478 ones German and ones American. Kidding aside, the power band on these engines even from 80s are just remarkable. Just bc they have similar HP and torque, and even weighs almost the same, this is where true engineering shines. Hell, the black wing has almost 70ft/lbs torque more and still loses
@christopherpickens1478 Жыл бұрын
@@jkengine02 cause of a suck ass driver, however I do see your perspective
@jkengine02 Жыл бұрын
@christopherpickens1478 I agree... I don't wanna dog the guy bc I like the content but yes, it was super cringing everytime he slams the gear shift.. bro they go into gear even with just a force of your pinky why are you slamming the gears so hard. I would never let this guy drive my car. He'll probably bent the shift shaft
@scottbowers7248 Жыл бұрын
Do a road course test next, performance is a lot more than just acceleration, every test for road course the Cadillac skunks the Bimmer, that is engineering.
@jimwallace4164 Жыл бұрын
Flagman checking in! This shoot was fun to be a part of. 473bhp BMW M3, nah; Its well over 500 crank horsepower. Regardless, it was a fortunate stroke of luck to have a manual M3 join the festivities and make this video happen! Good racing lads. See you in the next one :D
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
You the man Jim!
@nathanaelcole8466 Жыл бұрын
I wish Sam would give us the MPH at the 1/4 mile mark, that would give a much better idea of real HP. I can tell you my 3950 curb weight RWD Auto ~540 crank hp runs 12.2 @ 116 mph on the street. That 116 is indictive of HP, the 12.2 can be altered by many factors.
@MrJrolon1975 Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegionWhy are you such a bad driver? You need to do better.
@nighthawk0077 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJrolon1975 maybe the Stig would be better
@nighthawk0077 Жыл бұрын
I thought they were 510hp
@LearningFast Жыл бұрын
Crazy how much a manual transmission and RWD handicaps these cars. The AWD and automatic transmission are just so much better for performance.
@G82Watts Жыл бұрын
It's a driving experience ur obv a tesla nerd and u don't have a clue about having fun in a car that takes skill to drive.
@thatr34monster49 Жыл бұрын
The dude brings some insane races no one thinks of! I love it. This is probably the only official drag race of the CT4 BW I have seen so far. Kudos to Sam ❤
@steadybreeze1443 Жыл бұрын
I sold BMW and the longer in gear acceleration helps and the elasticity of the engine is its strong point. Apparently the CTSv4 Blackwing has a great chassis and feel..buy what you enjoy.. I still enjoy my 6 speed e90 more then the new cars I drove, different experience. Best pick is the M340 tuned. So much potential.
@scottw7895 Жыл бұрын
BWM is NOT an Xdrive and NOT a competition spec, aka the slow spc.
@joeysantillo8977 Жыл бұрын
The bw launch control does give you wheelspin but i got two 4.2 sec 0-60 runs with it on. (I only tried twice). You can see the power diference once in third gear. I bet the m3 has 40+ more whp than advertised. Lots of people ragging on Sam's skills but i think he was within a few tenths of what the bw is capable of stock in the 1/4.
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
BMW makes 550 bhp. You can see online dynos. People that comment here like that have zero clue, so it doesn’t bother me.
@TheJerrydon575 Жыл бұрын
You can't drive that Caddy at all!!!! The nose NEVER dips on shifts, IF you're shifting correctly! You definitely were not doing no-lift shifts. 9:11 he lifts off the accelerator, you can hear the click of the accelerator pedal hitting when he gets back on it. 10:23 he does it again, then again at 10:27. I mean you can see his right knee rising off the gas. Again at 11:06. I don't care which car wins this, but I do care if it's a fair comparison!
@TDream-hs1ju Жыл бұрын
I love this match up but BMWs make a lot more power than advertised and they put it down to ground like no other!! Both cars are amazing though!!!
@henzo7087 Жыл бұрын
Not a lot more 30 hp more than they say. VW/Porsche doing 50/60 hp + than advertised. No chance vs BMW engine is superior than competition
@RiasGremoryS54 Жыл бұрын
@@henzo7087 A lot of VW make less power.. BMW are the king when it's come to make more HP than advertised.
@JoseManuel-cq1ot Жыл бұрын
3.0 vs 3.6 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@11x Жыл бұрын
@@JoseManuel-cq1ot You make it sound like 0.6L is a huge difference or something🤦🏼♂️ …nice cars but I’d rather get the CT4 and do a simple tune that wakes them right up with 500+hp and still have $20,000 in my pocket
@manuelthodos5925 Жыл бұрын
@@henzo7087 the new m2 says 453bhp but, when dynoed it puts down 535whp.
@johnnytorreto8197 Жыл бұрын
I would do dirty things for a CT5 BW
@losttyrant7482 Жыл бұрын
I think the real match up is a CT5 Black wing, price wise they are much closer
@AE86FTS Жыл бұрын
But size wise, this is the correct match up. The CT5 is the same size as the 5 series
@Tm0n3y762 Жыл бұрын
That’s m5 territory lol still gon lose especially to the M5 CS
@EdMiF Жыл бұрын
@@Tm0n3y762 Not on the race track. Look at the Haverty video.
@G82Watts9 ай бұрын
Ct5 blackwing would still lose.
@monocuco818 Жыл бұрын
Seeing those shifts actually makes the race so much more exciting!
@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын
The M3 looks sooo much better imho.
@chrism869 Жыл бұрын
the race i always wondered about, cause no one has done it, but really the beimer is just unmatched
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
bimmer 👍
@thomasferrarojr.9772 Жыл бұрын
That's because it's underrated by 40hp. It's not that amazing. 🙄
@chrism869 Жыл бұрын
@thomasferrarojr.9772 wonder if an auto would keep up a bit better, but still would lose
@davis119 Жыл бұрын
Drivers change seats 💺
@S58PSHIFTING Жыл бұрын
That BMW is just too special of a car and it has its tricks up its sleeve.
@ernestomorales24873 ай бұрын
Sure... a trick called more power than advertised. Simple trick
@blkwng8110 ай бұрын
Gm should have turned the boost up from the factory on the blackwing. 500whp would be the sweet spot
@wesleywalls7582 Жыл бұрын
We all knew this outcome, but the brilliance of the CT4-V Blackwing is its chassis and manual gearbox, not its outright power. The M3 is fantastic though.
@johnnytorreto8197 Жыл бұрын
@@layne4376 good excuse for you to suck off BMW eh?
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
@@layne4376well he has to come up with some excuse, because slower on the road course too. Surprised he didn’t bring up the nose as another excuse either.
@wesleywalls7582 Жыл бұрын
@@layne4376 eh, I drive a 2022 Model S, so I would beat both of them. 😎
@S8ER Жыл бұрын
@@wesleywalls7582 plaid or peasant spec?
@wesleywalls7582 Жыл бұрын
@@S8ER my six-figure “peasant spec” will run a 10.8 at 128 quarter mile.
@ms8742 Жыл бұрын
I had a '23 M4 Comp X drive for 3 months before I flipped (sold) it. It was insanely fast. These current M cars (3/4 series) are very good.
@Turtle-sz7sk Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was gonna trade my rs5 coupe in for one but had to buy a house 😠
@OneTwoThreePunch Жыл бұрын
Considered doing that with mine, just did the 1200 mile service but can’t let it go. It’s a monster and a blast to drive. Not much stands a chance stock for stock. I wish the turbo s wasn’t so expensive
@brandonpittman5243 Жыл бұрын
@@Turtle-sz7skI don’t know if you won or lost but good decision on the home congratulations
@davidwade7681 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the m8
@OneTwoThreePunch Жыл бұрын
@@davidwade7681 not for me but I respect it. My M3 is my daily, I prefer a fast daily and an exotic. Just can’t justify the price of huracans, f8’s etc. the m3 comp x is so capable it has curbed my urge for a super/hyper car. This car literally saved me money lol
@blu_is500 Жыл бұрын
4.2 Seconds is nothing...absolutely nothing...to sneeze at. Whoever gets a Blackwing should be quite happy.
@RSTouch5 ай бұрын
Does the ct4 have no lift shift, why is he clutching??
@flybyguy1450 Жыл бұрын
Obviously the bmw was going to win, but the driver still jumped every roll race.
@regal022 Жыл бұрын
Sam! We been waiting this video for the longest and you are the only one that have made it happened. Good choice on having the lower HP M3 instead of the competition versions. That cadi looks good and moves good. But you are the first one that put them on a head to head and letting the cars talk instead of doing a “blind review” with favoritism towards any of them.
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Here to make the impossible… possible
@d3j051 Жыл бұрын
I'm a BMW fan and current owner but that Blackwing is still an awesome machine, I would love to own one if I didn't need a back seat.
@canucktheory3271 Жыл бұрын
Id rather the ct5-V blackwing for the price and it will hold its value much better and for longer with the 6spd and lt4. You pay m3 money for m5 CS performance and have the manual. I digress. Both cars are pretty awesome and for the price the ct4 is hard to beat.
@hassanger8128 Жыл бұрын
The CT5 V Blackwing doesn't come athousand mile close to the M5 CS.
@oscarchavez9047 Жыл бұрын
?? If you watch the Haggerty channel review you will see that on a track the CT5 blackwing is faster than the M5 cs! M5 cs in a straight line will easily win but that not the reason the blackwing was made!
@hermantracey5976 Жыл бұрын
I currently own a 2020 Cadillac CT4V series I think for the money the CT4 black ring is overrated so I'm going for the Mac daddy CT6 black wing if I can find a good useful I think for the money the CT4 black ring is overrated so I'm going for the Mac daddy CT6 black wing if I can find a good Use one I suggest you try another driver for the Caddy
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
The black ring might be - but the Blackwing isnt
@BurtonDynamics Жыл бұрын
Yeah on paper they look similar but on the dyno the BW puts down 415ish WHP and the M3/M4 puts down 500+ whp. Big difference. Also i noticed you didnt use the launch control on the BW. Not sure if the m3 has launch control.
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
We tried with launch control- cars spin like crazy. Result was similar just slower launch. M3 does have it, just finicky.
@fzr1000981 Жыл бұрын
10 psi more boost so duh
@damianinglish7474 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2020 CT4 V with the 2.7L turbo. And i absolutly am inlove with the car. Been driving it for about 3 months. Its fully loaded and i will say ill wait a few yrs and look to the blackwing. This was a good race to see
@manthatspeakstruth5402 Жыл бұрын
MORAL OF THE STORY IS GET YOUR SELF A M
@manuelpiston Жыл бұрын
Ewww no wouldn't touch it with a 6ft pole.
@southerncomfort1339 Жыл бұрын
As many of these things running around with wild owers! Where is the 392 Chargers?? In these drag race!
@southerncomfort1339 Жыл бұрын
Notice they don't invite the 392 Chargers n these drag races nor the U-Drag race!!
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
S58 is the king 🙇♂️
@nick0164 Жыл бұрын
costs way more so id hope so
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
@@nick0164 easily optioned at $85k for xdrive comp. You don’t have to go crazy on options.
@manuelpiston Жыл бұрын
B58?
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
@@manuelpiston B58 is the S58’s little brother.
@1u5t1n Жыл бұрын
Bmw's dyno is close to the summit of Everest. That's how they get their numbers.
@IRaoulDuke Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day Cadillac looks better than an M car.
@Yoomaro Жыл бұрын
BMW has better interior tho
@brainwashed1542 Жыл бұрын
For that price difference it better…
@oemj7147 Жыл бұрын
I'm sill waiting for that day to come.
@hassanger8128 Жыл бұрын
This M3 looks way better. That day would never come.
@Micahh.D Жыл бұрын
Wonder how faster the 10 speed BlackWing is
@SteveBrueck Жыл бұрын
Much
@SuzukiKid4009 ай бұрын
Who cares. It’s about being more engaging combined with the speed. These are street driven enthusiast cars, not race cars.
@victorbalan3488 Жыл бұрын
bro, anyone else think that sam cant shift to save his life?
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
You have a big mouth
@thatr34monster49 Жыл бұрын
Keyboard warrior in here. Jealousy can cause heart disease.
@victorbalan3488 Жыл бұрын
@SamCarLegion It doesn't make any sense to insult me, you already insulted the entire car community with your terrible shifting.
@victorbalan3488 Жыл бұрын
@thatr34monster49 love both cars. Shifting is the problem here. Besides, grown-ups are talking here, this isn't a child conversation for you.
@adrinz4870 Жыл бұрын
That's what i'm sayin bro the cadillac lost by a bus. It shouldn't be that bad.
@napraznicul Жыл бұрын
Yeap.. m3 had @510bhp OR that blackwing had @440bhp. Wasn't about shifting at all.. from third gear up.. power cloud be seen.
No this is a skill issue. He was losing too much speed in each shift
@cj41079 Жыл бұрын
We need S58 vs lightly tuned B58 plz 🙏
@antongusev2673 Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what you pay extra bucks for - a better performance. Thanks for the great video!
@KDbeats19 Жыл бұрын
if Im paying that much I want about a bus length not a car & a half
@tri3pleagent Жыл бұрын
Is it better around the track?
@show2ime Жыл бұрын
@@layne4376 GET AN M3 XDRIVE automatic and it's still lights out...
@hassanger8128 Жыл бұрын
@@KDbeats19 The BMW has a better performance, better handling, better driving experience, better buildquality, better interior, and most importantly a better brand recognition with a car known for motoersporting. Everyone will remember the M3, but a few will recall that CT4 V Blackwing.
@KDbeats19 Жыл бұрын
@@hassanger8128 Well there's many generations of the m3 so I wouldn't be surprised, but I get what u mean.
@kennetheddins8656 Жыл бұрын
The Cadillac looks better and cheaper price
@joszer Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised that the BMW is faster, but I am surprised that it's faster by a few car lengths. Impressive. I still love my CT4 BW though
@roboticvenom1935 Жыл бұрын
The m3 costs much more
@robertburr7407 Жыл бұрын
The BMW is quick but not quicker unless it is the AWD CS. The driver was pathetic as many of the comments have pointed out.
@G82Watts11 ай бұрын
@@robertburr7407u dumb? The regular m3 comp xdrive or m4 xdrive smoke it as shown here and on car and drivers quarter mile times and 0-60s. U don't need the CS version 😂😂
@Tavarish21 Жыл бұрын
Does the CT4-V also come with No lift shift? 🤔
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Yes
@G20_Fuzzy Жыл бұрын
The caddy and the m330i 2023 woulda been better the m3. Como dusted it
@TCG1979 Жыл бұрын
Would take the Caddy based on looks alone.
@kn3954 Жыл бұрын
I know looks are subjective, but that Cadillac is hideous.
@chriscab8333 Жыл бұрын
On the CT4 BW the ECU has a boost cut from factory until its been operating for I think 10 or 15 minutes.
@SteveBrueck Жыл бұрын
No, 180 degree oil temp, same as our ATS-V'S. We have the same LF4 engine, just lots more power
@andreyavdeyev Жыл бұрын
Need to flat foot shift so boost doesn't drop off each gear change. Might've made a small difference 🤷♂
@ssanderson12 Жыл бұрын
He said he was flat foot shifting...
@Starkiller12481 Жыл бұрын
The BW no lift shift seems to not carry the boost well I bet it'll carry boost better with normal shifting
@GrabbaBeer8 ай бұрын
Would have made a big difference
@mogrossman7342 Жыл бұрын
Why do your videos start with promos of previous drag races? It always makes me doubt if I clicked on the right thing.
@Eddy-09 Жыл бұрын
This Cadillac should race an M340i, even then I don’t think it would win.. mainly cause of the advantage from the ZF8 auto. If they were both auto that would be interesting..
@Bigguns761 Жыл бұрын
Sam, what is the fastest 0-100 km/h, the cadillac blackwing or the m240i xdrive g42 ?
@BPR-IronCurtain Жыл бұрын
The 240i is AWD.....what do you think? Lol
@OraneenarO Жыл бұрын
I remember being told by the dealership that ct4 blackwing is impossible to get but now I'm seeing quite a few on auto trader.
@michaelschneider1365 Жыл бұрын
the 2024 ct4 are getting redesigned inside and it’s a 20yr anniversary i’m hoping to get a black wing or v. next summer
@rwczr9364 Жыл бұрын
Try using the launch control on the ct4 it makes a huge difference than dumping the clutch
@watsonanthony84388 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter. It ain’t beating the m3 😅😅
@StreetGrandTour Жыл бұрын
Great videos Sam, love the Blackwing!
@rarelibra Жыл бұрын
what pinhead was driving the Caddy?
@bunzaroo Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. As others have mentioned the M3 is underated. I had a 2021 M3 base auto, non X drive. Now I have a 22 Blackwing w carbon package. 10 speed. My honest opinion M3 Quicker acceleration Better looking interior/Materials Better looking wheels Better finish overall Blackwing A tad slower overall/ seat of the pants Rides better w/ magnetic suspension Feels more planted Fit and finish a tad on the lower side I feel it looks better overall than the Beamer, except the wheels. Thinking of doing JB4 / down pipes/intake. Should take me to 600+ at the wheels.
@awhs5435 Жыл бұрын
you're high if you think a JB4 tune will pump 600 wheel HP lmao. Owned many AMGs and S line audis and a few M cars, legit delusional if you believe some cheap ass tune and some DP will pump out that much more HP.
@George0674 Жыл бұрын
I had a f82 M4, then an ATSV (now have a 4BW). I feel like your assessment is spot on. I do think the f82 was a great looking car though. I don't know wtf BMW is thinking these days with the styling, the new 7 is an atrocity, and this coming from someone who didn't hate the Bangle era.
@bunzaroo Жыл бұрын
@@George0674 i also had 2 ATSV’s 16’ crystal white sedan and 19’ steel gray coupe. I miss the coupe so much.
@George0674 Жыл бұрын
@@bunzaroo yeah, mine was a 19 Coupe in Wave Metallic (blue), one of 4 with the 6mt. The BW is the first new 4 door car I've ever bought. I miss the coupe styling, but nice to easily throw things in the back seat.
@bunzaroo Жыл бұрын
@@George0674 only 114 atsv’s were built in 19’ all coupes. Mine was 1 of 13. I really miss the styling of the coupe. 😢
@IanRush77 Жыл бұрын
BMW's M cars will win the drag races and roll races, but Blackwings are for real drivers that enjoy more than just driving fast in a straight line. That's why the CT5 Blackwing is faster around a track than both the M3 and M5. If straight line acceleration is all that matters, buy yourself a soulless Tesla lol
@DMCarReviews Жыл бұрын
BMW is the epitome of driving pleasure, and not an "upscaled" Chevy.
@IanRush77 Жыл бұрын
@@DMCarReviews Lol yeah that's why Car and Driver ranked both Blackwings as best in their class. BMW bias is finally starting to fade away even though the V series has been kicking ass for years.
@DMCarReviews Жыл бұрын
@@IanRush77 They are garbage cars. I worked at Cadillac. I can give 0 f***s what Car and Driver says. The think Tesla is great too - NOT!
@pokerfred68 Жыл бұрын
Shifting your own really slows down both. The autos are seamless and are so much more controlled.
@TrevForPresident Жыл бұрын
And way less fun
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
Little less fun, but still have the paddle shifting involvement, and a car that's quite a bit quicker in every way possible especially dig racing!
@msblack557 Жыл бұрын
Cadillac ct5v or bmw m3 cs?
@BPR-IronCurtain Жыл бұрын
This was the expected outcome. I'd love to see the difference in a track race instead. M3 obviously has more hp than listed but surprised how fast it really is. I'd still take the blackwing any day. Looks better and won't be in the shop constantly. Also way cheaper to maintain and more reliable.
@robertburr7407 Жыл бұрын
Blackwing is faster around a track as indicated. That is what it was meant for.
@darrellhines4553 Жыл бұрын
The Germans and Italians, do it better
@yousef.al-assaf Жыл бұрын
Underrating power figures? Indeed!
@EddieGarciaVQ Жыл бұрын
Reliability wise? No.
@dennissmith7214 Жыл бұрын
They absolutely don’t “do it better”🙄………..no one in their right mind would take a fully loaded CT4 blackwing over a base m3, just doesn’t make sense! 🥱👈🏽
@dennissmith7214 Жыл бұрын
@@yousef.al-assafRight I mean why lie to make your vehicles seem superior.😒
@NS416 Жыл бұрын
@@dennissmith7214if your looking to make big power, and have a better build quality + aftermarket support the M3 is the clear winner here lol.
@MS-li5tp Жыл бұрын
Wonder how their times would compare around a track?
@pradeepgagajan2499 Жыл бұрын
We all know BMW'S are fast but you guys noticed all the BMW'S always winning on this guy channel? I think he's a bmw fan boy and the race are rigged, u even had a bmw beating a 1000hp trackhawk which is impossible, you should rename your channel to BMWLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
BMWLegion mmmm now thats worth thinking about!
@RDriver2.0 Жыл бұрын
He's had some questionabke matchups throughout his earlier tenure. He has his favorites for sure. He seems to be more inline with BMW (he owns or owned one) and they are one of my favs as well but might come down to availability and securing cars etc.
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
@@RDriver2.0 Spot on! We usually pick the highest bidder as the winner . So in this case BMW paid the highest money. So anytime you see a car you love lose, it’s because they paid less money. It’s just fair to pick a winner based on 💰💰💰
@S8ER Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
😋😉
@cruzth11 ай бұрын
I’ve watched 2 videos with Sam and Cadillac and for some reason I’m not fully satisfied with his drive. When you have similar specs it’s a great idea to switch cars and drivers. It’s just an observation don’t hate on me, I own a 2023 Cadillac Ct5 V and love the power plus the look.
@rokusentertainment5787 Жыл бұрын
The bmw 340 with a 2 pound boost gain would eat up this slow blackwing 😂
@BPR-IronCurtain Жыл бұрын
Slow? Lol. Why you talking about cars you'll never be able to afford 😂😂 🤡
@LayLoow Жыл бұрын
@@BPR-IronCurtainyou don’t have to afford to talk about them
@pichubball Жыл бұрын
Fact lol
@derequalizer7269 ай бұрын
I'm from Germany, or rather Bavaria, where BMW is at home. I had a BMW 7 Series and a BMW 5 Series myself. But then I had a Cadillac Eldorado and a Cadillac STS. Cadillac is also my favorite brand. So much elegance, great technology, luxury and beauty combined with sportiness is unique. And still cheaper than the competition (BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi). No other car brand can do that. It doesn't get any better than this. Cadillac!!! 😊👍🏼 Here is my only video that I made myself .... from my Cadillac at the time: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ2YiZhubrKgqrssi=j9nYoX4hP325c1rj
@busaracer590 Жыл бұрын
Driver's skills are way of
@FLBoyCanScrap Жыл бұрын
Not even close. Brutal
@oscarmurillo84727 ай бұрын
I drove a ct4v blackwing and a is500, that Cadillac was quick, but felt so bland with that v6.. lexus felt just as fast, but wayyyyy funner to drive, actually made me feel something. Build quality on the lexus blows the Cadillac away in every way also.. but i always eanted to see a drag race between the two out of curiosity. They both make 472 hp That is500 is special for sure
@SamCarLegion7 ай бұрын
Ct4 bw all day everyday
@oscarmurillo84727 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion mann, IDK. It'll be a close matchup for sure. Especially from a roll Either way, is500 is a way better car all around and funner to drive, better engine, also better looking imo. Id take that all day
@pompano_jedi172 Жыл бұрын
I would trust the s58 more than the gm's v6
@BPR-IronCurtain Жыл бұрын
Wrong engine my guy lol.
@pompano_jedi172 Жыл бұрын
@@BPR-IronCurtain lol fixed it
@BPR-IronCurtain Жыл бұрын
@@pompano_jedi172 I gotchu fam lol. To be fair the b58 is probably more reliable than both.
@betochipistube65435 күн бұрын
Can we do a cadillac ct4 with the 10 speed auto i would love to see that video
@MrE.888 Жыл бұрын
Pound for pound American muscle will never match German engineering
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Also dollar per dollar
@S8ER Жыл бұрын
what if your american muscle is german engineered? 🤔
@latino914 Жыл бұрын
M3 is too much 💪 for the Malibu
@shariqahmed5637 Жыл бұрын
ROFL. Car and Driver must be conjuring up additional magic to further anoint the Black Wing as the holy grail of automotive engineering.
@cjaywar5694 Жыл бұрын
Can’t get either in Texas for less than 100k
@codyweiler60836 ай бұрын
Freedom baby...
@Sle3p520 Жыл бұрын
Very exciting matchup! Would like to see this M3 vs a gt350.
@regal022 Жыл бұрын
M3 on drag race will pull away, same on anything below 60mph. Anything higher they basically stay the same. On track the M3 with cup tires will have an edge but that GT350 still a beast on a track.
@zeekahlfevil Жыл бұрын
Just a thought.. I know the size difference, I know they're not exactly in the same "class" but everyone who is in here talking about how the BMW is faster and has more power.... Lol at price points... Throw some sticky ties and a lil bolt on power to the caddy and the BMW is toast... Or put it up against the M2 that is actually in it's price point and watch the beemer boys cry... When a car is ~15k more expensive (depending on equipment) it's always going to out perform in some areas... But seriously let's get real, caddy guys will get the caddy, beemer boys will get the m3 good video guys really liked the content.
@ernie8965 Жыл бұрын
Bmw it's more money but you get better engineering and quality 2
@jsdaily3663 Жыл бұрын
The M3 owner DROVE HIS OWN CAR... he's familiar with it knows where the sweet spots are and when to shift it. Unlike what we witnessed with you and the CTS. Keep things on a level playing field
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
🤧🤧🤧
@ii_dynasty Жыл бұрын
We know the m3 would've won regardless.
@BPR-IronCurtain Жыл бұрын
M3 was gonna win but yeah Sam isn't a good driver by any stretch. Gotta get the boy Randy to drive um both.
@GoBrand0n Жыл бұрын
German Auto Tech is by far Superior That S58 Engine is a monster!!!
@Emilthehun Жыл бұрын
I love the cadillac! Such a good look.
@lancemannion4113 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea why Cadillac insists on sticking to the conjunctivitis headlight and taillight treatment? But it didn't look good at its launch and it certainly hasn't gotten better with time, especially the taillights on this thing. It's a decent enough looking car otherwise, aside from the typical GM interior. But even for the price difference, BMW everyday/all day, even with the goofy grill!
@07wrxtr1 Жыл бұрын
Same - once I drove my girls OLD 535i that's been tuned - I'm a believer! Thing just gets OUT! It's also quiet/comfortable and a tank sorta!
@fzr1000981 Жыл бұрын
10 psi more boost...crank up the boost on the CT4 and much different result
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
Bimmers are just different lol! Unreal how badly that blackwing was getting gapped every single time😄
@tri3pleagent Жыл бұрын
That usually happens when you have more power 🤷🏿♂️
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
@@tri3pleagent yup, but still shouldn't get gapped that badly😄! Bimmers are on another level just admit it bro!
@tri3pleagent Жыл бұрын
If you think that's bad when you're down 50-60 hp...you know what, never mind.
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
@@tri3pleagent You're the one that made a silly comment at me kid! You can guesstimate the power to weight ratio all you want, but it got absolutely destroyed either way!🤡
@tri3pleagent Жыл бұрын
@@germanengineering204 dude...go that way. It's a more powerful car. Add in the guy can't drive stick for shit and there you have it. We all know that car makes quite a bit more than the stated horsepower and the stated horsepower is already 30 more than the Caddy. You sound silly AF.
@AP-go1ks Жыл бұрын
Best race of the year, M3 6 speed manual vs CT-4 Blackwing 6 speed manual, thanks much!
@cbruno12180 Жыл бұрын
I’ll take the caddy for 12k less in the states!! It’s a no brainer with 5k in mods I’ll blow by the m3!!!
@nathanaelcole8466 Жыл бұрын
Hell, a $1000 tune and you are taking it in a roll race. The LF4 is a good engine, not quite S58, but very tuneable as well.
@JadeaRS4 Жыл бұрын
It's not a competition model. Need more then 5g worth of upgrades. Then you kill the warranty as well. Not with the M3 competition.
@Mike604 Жыл бұрын
Who the hell cares about a caddy except for grandpas at a golf course?
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
The Tremec is superbly
@cbruno12180 Жыл бұрын
@@JadeaRS4 your 100 wrong my buddy just put down pipes on it and cai and jb4 tune simple tune he’s at 590 whp!! Now hp tuners just released a whole suite of tunes on the pcm and tcm and ebcm which costs about 3k after unlocking the pcm his but will have 660 at the wheels now!! So there you’re 5k in mods
@mak_x178510 ай бұрын
You need to do this whole thing again. I saw you lifting your right foot. When you were shifting the car has a no lift shifter.
@jefryherrera3242 Жыл бұрын
Engine wise, I guess the M3 is under rated and the CT4-V BLACKWING is overated. 🤔
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
I think the BW is on point, and the bmw is underrated
@jefryherrera3242 Жыл бұрын
@SamCarLegion I definitely appreciates the content Sam! Keep them coming! 👏🏽👏🏽
@abrahamcastellanos812820 күн бұрын
Something seems off with the Cadillac?
@ashtoncarlisle2750 Жыл бұрын
Good luck putting that CT4 on an actual race track 😂
@wesleywalls7582 Жыл бұрын
The CT4 BW is literally built for the racetrack.
@ashtoncarlisle2750 Жыл бұрын
You have one ?
@GeronimoBiggles10 ай бұрын
@@ashtoncarlisle2750 yes i do it gets better lap times than the supra with the b58 also shown by many big reviewers
@ashtoncarlisle275010 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBigglesthat’s probably one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a while. You have no clue about track driving because anyone with experience would know better. Sorry bud but that doesn’t make sense.
@mqbr22 Жыл бұрын
10 min of talking and 2 min of racing that wasn’t even close at all. Common man
@alexesh0763 Жыл бұрын
Sporting comparisons are more important than insulting each other. As a BMW fan, I think it's good to have a new competitor - see CT5-V BW and M5 Comp.
@kingchronic69 Жыл бұрын
Hey can you get your hands on 21 Altima turbo and race it by chance
@MikeYurbasovich Жыл бұрын
Vs. A Corolla, or a Kia Sorento?
@ForEver21878 Жыл бұрын
You can hear it in the top rev range that the M3 has more power there The GM v6 is a charm but just not enough top end