2023 Ford Super Duty 6.8L V8 Vs 7.3L V8: Which Is Better?

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Ben Hardy

Ben Hardy

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@user-lj6fu7ee7h
@user-lj6fu7ee7h Ай бұрын
Our company has a fleet: was 6.8l mechanics loved but 7.3 ford put plastic covered bearings deep in the engine and at like 60k they have to remove the front of the engine to replace.
@bluemutt9964
@bluemutt9964 Жыл бұрын
Car brain says 6.8 but nerd brain wants the engine named Godzilla lol
@marksman4004
@marksman4004 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the 6.8 swap videos to come.
@Lisa4Me2
@Lisa4Me2 Жыл бұрын
I have the 7.3L and I love it.
@Cov930
@Cov930 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1999 7.3 an love it
@Lisa4Me2
@Lisa4Me2 Жыл бұрын
@@Cov930 Is yours the diesel. Here we are discussing the new-for-2020 Ford 7.3L Godzilla (gas) engine in the 2020 and up Super Duty pickup trucks.
@Clevelandsteamer324
@Clevelandsteamer324 Ай бұрын
@@Cov930keep it . Hopefully it has a manual transmission
@PlayStationatorTV
@PlayStationatorTV Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the informative content that not many other places are providing Ben
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын
The new 6.8 L V8 is fundamentally a more racy motor, as it the same cylinder bore with .300 less stroke, and has slightly higher compression at 10.8 : 1 vs. 10.5 : 1 on the 7.3 L. I have a feeling this is going to be great for tuners and the hot rod aftermarket.
@garysessoms9861
@garysessoms9861 Жыл бұрын
P 8p8
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын
@@garysessoms9861 ; I don't need to know 8p8 permutations for bore spacing and oversquare ratios.
@mannyzx1
@mannyzx1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that on the Harley 107 vs 114. The 107 is quicker to rev and off the line faster. But the 114 when weighted down with a passenger and gear moves just as quick as when empty. The 107 feels more sluggish when weighted down. Extra displacement from bore vs stroke is definitely different. Me personally, I think I prefer over square engines.
@spaceflight1019
@spaceflight1019 Жыл бұрын
​@@mannyzx1 One would think that 7 cubic inches would not make much of a difference.
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын
@@spaceflight1019 30 not 7
@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219
@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219 Жыл бұрын
I'd choose both of these engines now Ben.
@simpledj509chromo7
@simpledj509chromo7 Жыл бұрын
Both are good for different appliactions. I'm excited for the wrecked motors that'll come out of these rigs.
@pilotrafal
@pilotrafal Жыл бұрын
Did you mention the gear ratios? That would probably have biggest impact on fuel economy.
@francesco1998
@francesco1998 Жыл бұрын
They’re the same for 7.3 and 6.8
@waltchan
@waltchan Жыл бұрын
@@francesco1998 Does the 6.8L get at least 1 MPG better than 7.3L?
@francesco1998
@francesco1998 Жыл бұрын
@@waltchan Super Duties’ MPGs aren’t rated by the EPA. But I’d imagine yeah because it’s a smaller displacement engine making less power and torque.
@edwardhoward4708
@edwardhoward4708 Жыл бұрын
I immediately though that.
@kreigerbailey3550
@kreigerbailey3550 Жыл бұрын
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 👑🇯🇲🔥💥🌟⭐💯💎
@sonofdad0621
@sonofdad0621 10 ай бұрын
I have a 6.8 from 2003, still runs strong!
@edpetrocelli2633
@edpetrocelli2633 10 ай бұрын
I just bought one, a supercab 373 axle 6.8L v8.F 350, 18mpg at 60, 16mpg at 70mph and 12 at 80mph, intown high11`s to low 12`s. This is my 4th f-series ford and I lke it the best so far. I`ve had a 78 F150 cleveland 400 stick tranny, a 7.3L 1986 F250 gasser MPG no matter how you drove it. a 1996 F250 diesel that got 25 mpg highway untill they took the sulfer out of the fuel, then it went to 12mpg. city and 16 highway. It does sound cool and I was surprised at it`s accelleration, fastest one I`ve owned with out tuning it, which I`ll not do this time
@WillfulTangentMedia-fn2tp
@WillfulTangentMedia-fn2tp 4 ай бұрын
That’s better than my 2012 F150 5.0L. Not by a tremendous amount but still. That’s impressive
@edpetrocelli2633
@edpetrocelli2633 4 ай бұрын
@@WillfulTangentMedia-fn2tp Now that I`ve got 3300 miles on it I`ve noticed a big difference in mileage depending on whose gas I used. the cheap gas at BJ`s. 30 cents a gallon cheaper gets 3 MPG less. Sunoco is best
@winstonrocco1981
@winstonrocco1981 3 ай бұрын
Just bought a xlt 6.8 373 ratio electronic locking axle. Xlt premium package, black appearance package, fx4 20 inch black wheels and all terrain tires. Bed step Factory bedliner box lighting 360 cameras and LED headlamps and rest of lights are led . Power mirrors folding and telescoping. So far I love it 500 miles on it now. I’m hoping it gets better fuel mileage than 7.3. I didn’t need the 7.3 I just pull a bass boat and wanted weight of 250 vs a half ton and no start stop. Oh it’s a 2024
@edpetrocelli2633
@edpetrocelli2633 2 ай бұрын
@@winstonrocco1981 My gas mileage I wrote about was on flat ground here in florida and on cruise control, I couldn`t get those numbers with My foot
@winstonrocco1981
@winstonrocco1981 2 ай бұрын
@@edpetrocelli2633 Well just made a 450 trip to west Texas and got almost 16 mpg at 69 to 75 mph I was varying my speed just to break it in hot 900 miles on it now
@Slickheadhunter
@Slickheadhunter Жыл бұрын
The gas mileage is better than that, I’m getting 15.4 with my 22 7.3 on the gauge so even if it’s 2 miles per gallon less it’s still 3 miles per gallon better than that.
@ScarletKnightmare
@ScarletKnightmare 6 ай бұрын
He doesn't know that engine warmup burns a ton of fuel and that short trips are useless for mpg measurements
@joshsuperduty1270
@joshsuperduty1270 Жыл бұрын
I guess the 7.3 gas V8
@udmbfckx2916
@udmbfckx2916 Жыл бұрын
To get the lowest priced 6.8, in the XL compared to the cheapest way to get 7.3........The 6.8 IS the WInner since you have to pay thousands to "upgrade' to the 7.3
@ILYMAD66
@ILYMAD66 Жыл бұрын
I saw that too in build and price. It wasn’t like that until they brought in the 6.8. More ways to get more Money out of us I’m sure
@austinroyer3229
@austinroyer3229 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I really liked the 6.2 SOHC they had in the older generation super duty’s… 2019 and older. I had a 2017 model with the 6.2 and 3.73 rear end, and for me it was excellent. I wish I hadn’t traded it. On a long trip I would consistently average 16-17mpg and around the house I’d average about 14 mpg. and it had more than enough torque for just about any job I needed to get done. I hope the 6.8 proves to be a good one. I’m excited about it. I’ll miss the 6.2. It wasn’t everyone’s favorite but I will always be a fan of that one.
@dperr338
@dperr338 Жыл бұрын
The 6.2 was reliable and made good power. Whats not to like?
@jedzcutz8921
@jedzcutz8921 Жыл бұрын
The 6.2 is a bit sluggish though
@justinm9815
@justinm9815 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking into getting a later model F350 with a 6.2, is it really a good motor? I don’t need diesel power anymore as well as the maintain along with it
@justinm9815
@justinm9815 Жыл бұрын
@@jedzcutz8921depends on gearing
@nathanmcdonald610
@nathanmcdonald610 Жыл бұрын
@@jedzcutz8921 In comparison to what? The PowerStroke maybe, but it spanked GM's 6.6L gas V8 and the 6.4L Hemi in The Fast Lane trucks tests a few years ago.
@tedhalko4266
@tedhalko4266 Жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering about real fuel economy ratings not an 8 minute drive… I did 140 miles yesterday on eco mode, with cruise set at 70 in my 7.3, no trailer just a straight up highway run and got 17.3mpg. In the city so far it has not dipped below 14.5
@kdaltex
@kdaltex Жыл бұрын
Better than my tundra
@wizard_of_poz4413
@wizard_of_poz4413 Жыл бұрын
Cool, my cummins gets 25 and can actually get out of its own way
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
​@@wizard_of_poz4413 its a fiat man
@jonathanponsardii7870
@jonathanponsardii7870 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAnnoyingBoss lol fr
@cliffordmontana4562
@cliffordmontana4562 Жыл бұрын
@@wizard_of_poz4413 Most smart people DONT WANT A DIESEL! The new ones are unreliable pieces of junk. And if you have an old Cummins, that means the rest of the truck has disintegrated. If you haven’t driven a new 7.3, you have no room to talk. They are plenty fast and tow great. Not as good as a diesel, but plenty good for most people.
@ck1abe515
@ck1abe515 Жыл бұрын
I would go with the 6.8, it's more than enough for me towing 6-8k lbs, 2-3x per week delivering parts to paint and body shops and mechanics in the west Texas area traveling roughly 280 miles per day x5, I currently have a 19 ram 1500 that I recently purchased in October 2022 with 8600 original miles and since then I've just hit 47k miles, however, I would get the longer bed and extended range fuel tank on the 6.8, also my truck is my daily driver, it's all about a combo of necessity and preference, I'd have to weigh the cost difference between an XLT w/6.8 over the same with 7.3 🤷‍♂️
@Brandon_Nelson92
@Brandon_Nelson92 Жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate a 3.5 ecoboost f150. They pull like diesels and get 20+ mpg when driven lightly. They are a lot more affordable to buy and cheaper to own than a super duty truck. I've towed with 5.7 hemi trucks before and currently own a 2019 3.5 ecoboost f150 with the max tow package, rated for 12,800lbs. The 3.5 is a FAR better towing experience. Not just the power, but the suspension and stability, too. Like most people, I don't like to hear the engine scream at 5k+ rpm when pulling up hills. The ecoboost just hums up the hill at 3-4k, not struggling a bit. The powerband is very broad and it doesn't need to rev high to make big power.
@farmerbyron1
@farmerbyron1 Жыл бұрын
@@Brandon_Nelson92 As a current owner of a 2019 Expedition, I can confidently say I will never own another 3.5EB. Been in the shop many times and still goes into limp mode every other month. I used it to tow a SxS and camping supplies from OK to CO and it got like 9mpg and struggled with overheating even on the flatland. Absolute garbage engine and I just don’t understand why people like it unless it’s just Blue Oval fan boys. Full disclosure, I like Ford, especially the SD but that ecoboost is trash.
@Brandon_Nelson92
@Brandon_Nelson92 Жыл бұрын
@farmerbyron1 it sucks that you've had those issues with your 3.5. I'd be upset, too. My 3.5 has been drama-free so far, fortunately. As far as overheating, ford re-designed the thermostat. It was discovered that some of the original 2nd gen 3.5 thermostats get stuck and don't open all the way, especially after having the engine worked on. I know a few people that completely fixed their overheating issues with a new t-stat. They were regularly seeing 240+ coolant temps when towing heavy. After installing the new design t-stat, they almost never exceed 220.
@UAkovalchuk
@UAkovalchuk Жыл бұрын
With these prices none of them r good enough trucks
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
Aluminum "super duty"
@jlaw1901
@jlaw1901 Жыл бұрын
For real.
@stevenhooten4275
@stevenhooten4275 Жыл бұрын
We will never see the lower prices of the old day you will never be able to buy a new car or truck for the prices like 2000 dollars so I'm fine with the price of newer vehicles it's never going to get better the sooner you get at ease with that the better you will get over it and you can't buy property cheap either so get on with the world its not the 1920s anymore
@UAkovalchuk
@UAkovalchuk Жыл бұрын
@@stevenhooten4275 its not smart to accept everything that greedy manufacturers r pushing on us !!we the people control the market !!if we dont buy prices will go down
@philliphols
@philliphols Жыл бұрын
Just don’t buy it all trimmed up. I got a base f250 with Stx package, fx4, 6.2/6 speed extended cab long bed for a good price. Especially compared to the fancy bells and whistled models bused diesels going for 10-20k more than my new model. If you run a business the expense is more justifiable. If you don’t run a business, probably don’t need the truck or the payment
@PKDesigns2011
@PKDesigns2011 Жыл бұрын
Ty for sharing, as always content is greatly appreciated... gotta admit I knew the mpg was gonna be bad but that hurts ... lol ... kool truck, still hate ford for skimping on underbody armor specially for areas that get snow but kool truck ...
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 11 ай бұрын
Hardly a video on this 6.8. Glad you mention towing numbers on them. Can you get the off-road package with the stx package?
@claylee1016
@claylee1016 Жыл бұрын
How can you get an accurate mpg rating in a 3.1 mile test run? Miss a couple signals could drop the mpg 25% and vice versa.
@bradhazard4118
@bradhazard4118 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the mpg test is 100% pointless lol
@ScarletKnightmare
@ScarletKnightmare 6 ай бұрын
College isn't what it used to be. This is what you get 🤷
@mmr0221
@mmr0221 Жыл бұрын
ICE engines win. EVs are good for little cars driving around town less than 100 miles. Actual work trucks can’t run on electricity alone
@briandonald
@briandonald Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m looking forward to the Ram EV but EV trucks in general are a hard sell for people who buy trucks for towing and hauling.
@mmr0221
@mmr0221 Жыл бұрын
@@GWNHomestead the time it takes to charge huge batteries on a large truck would make businesses lose a lot of money. Imagine having to haul something from one place to another during the day and having to stop what you’re doing for 5-6 hours to charge the battery. It’s not sustainable
@wizard_of_poz4413
@wizard_of_poz4413 Жыл бұрын
Just buy a diesel and you'll have a real truck
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
Evs suck
@edwardhoward4708
@edwardhoward4708 Жыл бұрын
Locomotives are electric! The drive Motors are electric. The diesel engines run generators. It’s basically an electric transmission. The thing is, the energy density of batteries is nowhere near that of fossil fuels. What does make sense are hybrid vehicles like the F150 Powerboost. Don’t need to run the engine on downhill grades, in parking lots, at stoplights, plus a little extra oomph on takeoff.
@escapingthenest2020
@escapingthenest2020 7 ай бұрын
You stated a few times that the payload was the same between the two, but the numbers beg to differ. First off where you are correct: When comparing the offroad version of the v6.8L (3051lb) to the standard 7.3L (3041lb), the offroad version only had 10lb (0.3%) more cargo capacity. But... Now compare the two stock trucks, the 6.8L had 3969lb compared to the 7.3L had 3041lb, which is a 928lb (30%) difference. Depending on what the truck is doing that could be HUGE! My case: I will be pulling a sub 10K lb trailer but carrying a lot of weight in the bed of the truck. In my case the 6.8L looks like a better option
@ricklodin2068
@ricklodin2068 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing that almost 50 years later the MPG hasn’t improved. I bought a E250 with 460, 3 speed automatic, brand new in 1975. I used it to tow my race car around the country. It didn’t matter if I towed or was van only, the MPG was 10. That was a carbureted engine with virtually no electronic systems other then ignition. One would think with fuel injection and better atomization of the fuel you would see a significant improvement.
@marzsit9833
@marzsit9833 Жыл бұрын
my father had a 1997 f350 crew cab 4x4 with a 460 and a 5-speed manual, from the dealership it got 10mpg.. we replaced the exhaust after the cat with a 3" high-flow muffler and single 3 inch tailpipe and it got 14mpg after that. the big problem with new trucks is that they are fat and overweight, much heavier than older trucks.
@charliel1724
@charliel1724 Жыл бұрын
@@marzsit9833 Ford killed the best engine they ever put in a truck. 7.3 diesel. I had a '99 with 2" lift/level kit and 35s and it got 19-20 on the highway, 16 to 18 in city driving in Philthadelphia and pulling a 6-7000lb trailer 17mpg at 65 and 70mph. Couple buddies that were Ford mechanics said Ford saying they replaced it because of emissions was bullshit, they replaced it cause it Never came in for repairs. I put 40k miles on it and the Gal I sold it to has put some 250k more on it and most of that pulling an 11k trailer and has never had to do anything to the engine but change filters and oil.
@rontopping2048
@rontopping2048 Жыл бұрын
In 1975 you where getting around 5 mpg. This 2023 will get 15mpg on highway np
@ricklodin2068
@ricklodin2068 Жыл бұрын
@@rontopping2048 not even close. It was a solid 10 mpg. Not sure where you came up with 5 mpg.
@bdydrppup
@bdydrppup Жыл бұрын
​@rontopping2048 ask of the old big blocks got a consistent 10mpg. I've owned Cadillac 472, Chevy 454 and Ford 460. 10mpg empty, loaded, or drop it off a cliff.
@TheRealThaenatos
@TheRealThaenatos Жыл бұрын
I know it's tough, but gear ratios are important in these tests. Don't compare the performance of these with a 3.73 ram unless the Ford is in a similar ratio. Folks seem to forget that rear end gear ratios are just as important as hp and tq. Much like they forget that payload will always limit the tow numbers...towing 21k pounds would equate to ~ 3150lbs of payload used of you want to be truly safe and within the limits of your truck.
@proudamerican5518
@proudamerican5518 Жыл бұрын
I was just scrolling through the comments to highlight your points on the gear ratios as well. If he’s talking about tire tread and air dams making a big enough impact on fuel economy to note them, but this could be a 3.31 versus a 4.3… useless test without this information.
@Weatherby406
@Weatherby406 Жыл бұрын
The difference between 10 and 11mpg is a much higher percentage when the mpg is that low to begin with. Over 100k miles at $4.50 a gallon that’s over $4,000 in fuel savings. In a fleet that can make a huge difference!
@RK-he9dv
@RK-he9dv Жыл бұрын
Re-wording your summary. If you put the pedal to the floor with the 6.8 while driving the 7.3 kinda reasonably the 6.8 will still get better mpg.
@chrisharris4975
@chrisharris4975 Жыл бұрын
Pulling very likely the same weight, both engines using the same block the 6.8 with less stroke more compression versus the 7.3 with more stroke and a bit less compression should be close. Wish Ford would bring back 300CID . Pull quite well, bullet proof and Ford stopped producing this straight six because they would not die. A lot of the F-250 trucks even extended cab 4X4 had this engine. Was not a firecracker by any means, pulled like a tractor and got the job done. The 300CID was the most reliable engine Ford has ever made
@nickfarness728
@nickfarness728 5 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 f350 lariat, 6.5’ box, 3.73 gears. I constantly get 12.5 mpg in the city. 15mpg highway on the flat cruise set at 75mph love the truck. Pulling my 29’ enclosed trailer I get 9.5. Love this motor
@ericjacobs4156
@ericjacobs4156 2 ай бұрын
12.5 and 15mpg not towing?
@nickfarness728
@nickfarness728 2 ай бұрын
⁠12.5 city and 15mpg highway, not towing.
@philipraithel2700
@philipraithel2700 Жыл бұрын
I chose the 6.8 because could not get the 7.3 without the driver aids. It also cost over $5000 more with the required upgrades to get the 7.3 Godzilla. Overall cost and no driver assistance were more important for me.
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын
That's crazy, man. Don't blame you. Like the short stroke better anyway.
@s.i2898
@s.i2898 Жыл бұрын
And you do what for a living ? Please don’t tell Me you’re an office worker …
@MegaRgallardo
@MegaRgallardo Жыл бұрын
I got a 22 f150 with all the aids as a work truck. They can be a pain, idk if I’d want to pay bout 50k for a truck that’s always beeping at me.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
I buy older car before they add all this cost inflating nonsense
@philipraithel2700
@philipraithel2700 Жыл бұрын
@@s.i2898 I am currently a transportation manager, but also run our shipping and receiving department. I have had my CDL for over 20 years and still move trucks daily in our yard, occasionally I do get out of the building for a short run. The truck is for personal use, have an 8000 lb conventional trailer used for recreational use.
@tonytunnell9873
@tonytunnell9873 Жыл бұрын
I think I'd like to know what the fuel economy differences during a towing load for example to a trailer. That's shaped like a barn door kind of like the trailer's most contractors use that weighs about ten thousand pounds
@BIGWOOD3160
@BIGWOOD3160 Жыл бұрын
I pull a 41 foot 5th wheel weighs 15,000 lbs, I get 8 miles a gallon. That being said I have a 7.3 Godzilla Tremor package with 430 gears it pulls great
@tonytunnell9873
@tonytunnell9873 Жыл бұрын
@@BIGWOOD3160 Thank you I appreciate that
@edwardhoward4708
@edwardhoward4708 Жыл бұрын
A wash, I think, if you go the same speed. Here’s why: 1. On the flats, less than full throttle, the 6.8 would do better due to higher compression ratio and smaller displacement. Higher combustion temps = more efficiency. 2. In the hills the 7.3 would do better IF you use a use a slightly higher rear end gear ratio to deliver the same power at the same road speed with lower engine speed. Or with the same rear end ratio at the same speed, the 7.3 would have the pedal slightly off the floor, resulting in better efficiency because gasoline cars are programmed to run fuel rich at heavy throttle settings to reduce combustion temperatures and reduce NOx production. Bottom line, if you’re going to tow heavy or have a lead foot, get the 7.3. Otherwise get the 6.8
@tonytunnell9873
@tonytunnell9873 Жыл бұрын
@Edward Howard good way to think about this. Thanks Tony
@chrisharris4975
@chrisharris4975 Жыл бұрын
One thing good is that Ford went back to the pushrod engine with 2 valves per cylinder. It is not economical, nor is it modern. It is straight forward and tried and true. Been about 30 years
@79dent
@79dent 11 ай бұрын
And for a pushrod engine they are very efficient and they are insanely overbuilt
@scottmendoza8989
@scottmendoza8989 8 ай бұрын
Maybe they should go back to those engines on all the efforts. Because they're doing really bad
@Doug-gp2qw
@Doug-gp2qw 10 ай бұрын
Fuel mileage on a 3.1 mile loop is meaningless. And the dash estimate can easily be off by 10% or more. You need to drive at least 300 miles and measure the actual fuel used to be close to accurate.
@dantimber
@dantimber Жыл бұрын
That short section of the Interstate is fairly bumpy. It's a good on the road test for the ride of HD trucks. Thx.
@olddirtbiker5088
@olddirtbiker5088 8 ай бұрын
To get the real MPG of these trucks you would have to do a long highway trip and calculate the MPG mathematically, not use the instrument display computer.
@danielbargas3377
@danielbargas3377 Жыл бұрын
These 6.8’s with turbos from wrecked trucks are going to be the new junkyard Ls
@spec1923
@spec1923 Жыл бұрын
Do the lifter problems exist on the 6.8?
@conormayweather5474
@conormayweather5474 Жыл бұрын
When they first announced the 7.3 in the new trucks i was excited that they were bringing back the legendary 7.3 motor that was discontinued in 2003 only to come and find out that it 7.3 gas not diesel 😒
@wizard_of_poz4413
@wizard_of_poz4413 Жыл бұрын
The 7.3 was only legendary for being at the time they didn't need emissions and being too weak to break anything
@mikenettle7655
@mikenettle7655 Жыл бұрын
The 7.3 gas has almost 200hp more and the same torque as the 7.3 diesel. You’re also not having to deal with the epa bs.
@wizard_of_poz4413
@wizard_of_poz4413 Жыл бұрын
@@mikenettle7655 also that gas sucking piece of shit can barely eke out as much torque and an outdated ass diesel from 30 years ago
@desertmodern7638
@desertmodern7638 Жыл бұрын
Good power and presumably better fuel economy, plus the 6.8 is technically interesting with a shorter stroke and slightly higher compression ratio. I'd be happy with either, but the 6.8 would be my first choice.
@spaceflight1019
@spaceflight1019 Жыл бұрын
Either one, when converted to cubic inches, will make a Mopar fan happy.
@treeamigo8447
@treeamigo8447 Жыл бұрын
Shorter stroke just means less torque especially as the motor ages. Many examples over the years from more than one manufacturer.
@MrBiff123
@MrBiff123 Жыл бұрын
It seems like a waste of money for ford to develop such a similar gas motor especially because the specs are so close. 🤷‍♂️
@willr623
@willr623 Жыл бұрын
it’s called the “ godzilla engine family “ for a reason. all they did was shorten the stroke.
@slidewide1999
@slidewide1999 Жыл бұрын
@@willr623 and up the compression.
@s.i2898
@s.i2898 Жыл бұрын
@@berserker406 Coming from a guy who in other comments is defending Chevy and saying it’s better meanwhile Chevy has a 5.3 L a 6.2 L V8 explain to me the point of those really when realistically they should just make the six point to the base engine win the 5.3 is garbage does that basically counter the point you just made?
@15Jeep
@15Jeep Жыл бұрын
@@willr623 Yeah, some of these guys think only GM builds "engine families".....and they seem to forget the 5.3L with numerous model years of oil consumption problems is virtually the "LS red headed step child".
@15Jeep
@15Jeep Жыл бұрын
@@s.i2898 LMAO!!! Checkmate on berserker406 who's comments remind me of the political donkeys who make asses of themselves by forgetting previous statements they make about the political elephants who have excellent short and long term memories.
@johnburns1047
@johnburns1047 Жыл бұрын
When are we going to see a 6.7 HO review?
@BenHardyCars
@BenHardyCars Жыл бұрын
Soon hopefully
@adamrtr2774
@adamrtr2774 Жыл бұрын
I mean they both sound good even with the factory pipes so its a toss up for me
@escapingthenest2020
@escapingthenest2020 7 ай бұрын
What was the rear axle ratio on both trucks? That has an impact on fuel economy, too
@ScarletKnightmare
@ScarletKnightmare 6 ай бұрын
He's not a truck guy
@mulinzhan4167
@mulinzhan4167 Жыл бұрын
What rear ends were in those two trucks? How many miles did you drive to obtain the MPG?
@zjp692004
@zjp692004 Жыл бұрын
i have a 7.3 and love it
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 Жыл бұрын
the shorter geared transmission of the 6.8 with the same rear ends make me think the 6.8 will be slightly faster
@MrTay675
@MrTay675 2 ай бұрын
7.3 forged crank vs 6.8 cast crank. 10r140 vs 10r100 again goes to 7.3 for quality. 7.3 is the obvious choice unless you just don't have the money which IS a lot more. I'd find 2nd or 3rd hand 7.3.
@iq6840
@iq6840 Жыл бұрын
Ben, what rear end gear ratio was in the xlt to xl? Now I understand it's the same engine, the 6.8 being destroyed, if you bought for the long run, may last longer. Can you get the 6.8 with 4.3 gears?
@15Jeep
@15Jeep Жыл бұрын
Gear Ratio options are determind by engine choice and should not be affected by the different trim levels.
@MotoPG
@MotoPG Жыл бұрын
Yes - you can order 3.73 or 4.30 rear gears with the 6.8
@marksman4004
@marksman4004 Жыл бұрын
Seems like the 6.8 has a kinda high pitch rumble and the 7.3 rumble is low.
@atomatom7355
@atomatom7355 Жыл бұрын
6.8L Cast crank. 7.3L Forged crank. Only real difference between them, besides cubic inch displacement.
@79dent
@79dent 11 ай бұрын
Can't get a 7.3 without all the safety beepers. Like automatic braking and lane keeping, dynamic cruise control, auto dimming headlights
@brianstokes7206
@brianstokes7206 11 ай бұрын
The two 6.8’s have 3.73 gears according to the Truck Safety Comp Cert Stickers he showed. Code 3E. I don’t think he showed the sticker on the 7.3 truck.
@robertmccorkle9656
@robertmccorkle9656 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a mileage comparison for the 6.8 and 7.3 by driving 100 miles on the interstate towing a one ton trailer, a two ton trailer and then a four ton trailer. For me a mileage comparison around town is really not informative. I live in the country and tow a trailer 350 miles one way in a single day. I would like to see long distance fuel cost comparison results.
@Kody10538
@Kody10538 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly. These videos where they drive 10 miles and say its 10mpg just aren't accurate. I saw another video where a guy drove a 7.3 unloaded 500 miles and was averaging 15+ mpg without looking at the lie-o-meter, he actually fueled it up and did the math and these computers are about 1mpg optimistic.
@robertmccorkle9656
@robertmccorkle9656 Жыл бұрын
That’s good mileage when carrying no load or towing.
@onlyjoshing
@onlyjoshing Жыл бұрын
Same
@79dent
@79dent 11 ай бұрын
I get 15 - 15.5 with my '23 XL 6.8, 4" lift 26x16 wheels and 37x15.5 tires on 3" spacers, 4.30 gears. Wide, unaerodynamic. I never haul a trailer with this truck but if I ever do, I still have the stocks just in case 😁
@toqulac8862
@toqulac8862 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t trust each trucks fuel economy computer as they are known to be off. Why not fill them up before and after?
@SHOOT_NDX
@SHOOT_NDX Жыл бұрын
What are the gear ratios?
@highvoltge422
@highvoltge422 Жыл бұрын
11:43 An automotive upgrade is worth implementing if it provides at least 10% difference. 10mpg vs 11mpg is a 10% increase.
@davidkirksey8521
@davidkirksey8521 Жыл бұрын
You can't replace displacement for best low end torque required for HD work
@kimcokevin
@kimcokevin 21 күн бұрын
10% better fuel economy is not negligible, and if you aren’t trying to tow 21,000 pounds why not.
@ConnorJoyce-cq4do
@ConnorJoyce-cq4do Жыл бұрын
You gotta love when people just don’t understand the concept of inflation
@franktorres856
@franktorres856 Жыл бұрын
I love both trucks but 10 mpg I still lake for better than the others guys 🤷‍♂️
@angelovasilikos7980
@angelovasilikos7980 Жыл бұрын
Which gears did each come with?
@danbrown8310
@danbrown8310 4 ай бұрын
I love my 2021 7.3 f250
@kingrider75
@kingrider75 Жыл бұрын
Not sure but at these prices they can keep em lol
@DF-tz3ix
@DF-tz3ix Жыл бұрын
Overall all things considered for my use would get the 6.8
@videopipeline6419
@videopipeline6419 Жыл бұрын
@ 7:21 @ 11:21 It looks like *you measured fuel economy over a distance of 3.1 miles* ...is that correct?
@fordmud
@fordmud 10 ай бұрын
I dont exactly know what the point of making the same engine but with slightly less stroke is.
@atomicorang
@atomicorang 10 ай бұрын
7.3 Benjamin.❤
@rmj572
@rmj572 5 ай бұрын
Is there a way you can order a 6.8 with the 10 speed?
@coltonwood9846
@coltonwood9846 4 ай бұрын
10 vs. 11 mpg is actually a pretty big difference. 39 vs. 40 mpg is negligible.
@RichardSevcech-hz3xu
@RichardSevcech-hz3xu Жыл бұрын
I have 6.2 2019 with 60k on I have got 15 mph when not towing do two
@allenmccarriston5834
@allenmccarriston5834 Жыл бұрын
These two trucks have 2 different 10 speed transmissions
@15Jeep
@15Jeep Жыл бұрын
Exactly Correct. The 7.3L is backed by the 10R140 and the 6.8L is backed by the lighter duty 10R100.
@79dent
@79dent 11 ай бұрын
I have the 10R100 behind the 6.8 in my '23 and I love it
@wesleydean4228
@wesleydean4228 7 ай бұрын
@@79dentdoes yours make a whining noise at idle?
@spec1923
@spec1923 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it. I do not see enough difference in HP to warrant two different engines.
@davidmartin6642
@davidmartin6642 Жыл бұрын
Not sure why people make these short mileage videos, talk about the comparisons and NEVER put the rear end ratios in. need more miles and highway miles everyone knows city driving will be horrible...
@chrisholland2016
@chrisholland2016 Жыл бұрын
Which Is better out of all engines? Obviously the all new 6.7L HO powerstroke that's over a monster 500 hp and 1200 ft-lb of torque. Can't wait to see the Limited that's it's only engine included and that's what I love about it. Even though it's top of the line in the super duty lineup Limited is still my favorite so Is the king ranch on any truck model F150 or duallies as long as it has that king ranch cabin interior I'd definitely take it hands down.
@Mike-lm2og
@Mike-lm2og Жыл бұрын
But as stated in numerous videos and articles, the new era diesels are becoming more and more problematic and unreliable. No def, egr, regen, etc on the gas motor- but still a very impressive tow rating
@chrisholland2016
@chrisholland2016 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-lm2og yeah well I own horses. Gotta have diesel.
@techs1smh13
@techs1smh13 Жыл бұрын
​@@chrisholland2016 oh but..........you don't just buy new truck every 2 years. Yea once towing with diesel never going back.👍🍺
@wizard_of_poz4413
@wizard_of_poz4413 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-lm2og not really, just don't trash your shit and you'll be fine.
@chrisholland2016
@chrisholland2016 Жыл бұрын
@@techs1smh13 well with me I'm different. At first when I was 16 I owned a 2001 7.3l platinum F250 then regretfully gave it to my little cousin, 2 years later in my senior year 2016 got a blue 2014 f150 limited for Christmas and then the bed got knocked off by a drunk driver in a lifted f250 platinum out of nowhere from a hill and the air bag knocked him out and killed him and now I have a 2009 Tacoma that's been doing me good. About to get a bigger truck again and so far both half ton and heavy duties done good for me. Makes no difference to me now if it was a new diesel with the 10 speed like they are now all nice on the inside then yeah of course I'll be stuck on it they're better than ever. Plenty of power in hauling and acceleration. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@MissleT0E
@MissleT0E Жыл бұрын
7.3 all day ❤
@johnnybui1939
@johnnybui1939 Жыл бұрын
6.8L V8 is the best
@jamesmooney5348
@jamesmooney5348 Жыл бұрын
FE 390
@jamesdumas6602
@jamesdumas6602 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Trident 6.8 V10 that I think is an excellent motor with its 6-speed transmission in my 14K lb. class C RV. Plenty of power, especially compared to my older 5.9 diesel class A RV. I've had zero issues with the Ford truck part of the RV except it likes to drink gas (like I like to drink beer) consistently 8.5 - 9 MPG on regular gas. My 2019 6.8 V10 has plenty of power, so do the Ford powered RV's with the newer 7.3 or the new 6.8 V8 motors get better gas mileage? Back in 2020-21 when the RV's switched to the Ford 7.3 V8 the RV's appeared to jump up about $10K. in MSRP at that time. Do the new Ford motors really get better gas mileage, or are they Ford's answer to meet tougher EPA emissions? To get the higher HP numbers do the new Ford motors require Premium fuel as my 6.4 V8 Dodge Challenger does?
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын
Both run 87 Octane. 7.3 compression ratio 10.5 : 1 6.8 compression ratio 10.8: 1
@johnpeters9793
@johnpeters9793 Жыл бұрын
"Triton"
@fordmanx3
@fordmanx3 10 ай бұрын
Both engines are available side by side as options or is the 7.3 getting replaced?
@worldwidewes8411
@worldwidewes8411 9 ай бұрын
Both available. They replaced the 6.2 with the 6.8. So now you can choose between 7.3 or 6.8
@fordmanx3
@fordmanx3 9 ай бұрын
@@worldwidewes8411when i was working at fed ex i had a P1200 Box truck and infact had the Beast 7.3 Godzilla definitely had that big block rumble and idle loved that damn engine but was a pig on gas ⛽️ lol
@herb7877
@herb7877 Жыл бұрын
Although it was not an option when I bought my 21' F350 XLT I really like my 7.3L. I would buy it again today. I tow a 8400 # travel trailer with ease thru out the PNW hills & mtns without breaking a sweat. I really do not understand why they even bother with a 6.8L? If you're buying a Super Duty for mpg's then you're buying the wrong vehicle. Get a Ranger or small F150. I can't imagine there would be more than 0.2 mpg difference at best in most cases. I doubt there is even that. I did not want a diesel. Had them and do not tow that heavy of loads to pay the premium & extra maintenance. If I were towing more than 13-14k then I'd take a hard look. Difference between a diesel & 7.3 gasser towing is about 1-2 mpg's in my case. I can buy a lot of gas for the $10k difference in cost. I ave 13 empty around town, 17.5 on the hwy empty; 10-10.3 mpg towing our trailer up & down hills. Got 13 on a flat hwy trip once. Not sure I'd give the mpg award out based on a 3 mile trip. Did they both have the same rear ratios as well?
@benjaminwayneb
@benjaminwayneb Жыл бұрын
Not everyone that buys a Super Duty tows.
@herb7877
@herb7877 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminwayneb true; but then you'd be using it for heavier loads than you would want using a 1/2T or Ranger. My initial comments would still hold. Why would you buy a Super Duty for gas mileage?
@trenegade5441
@trenegade5441 Жыл бұрын
​@@herb7877 thanks for sharing your real world experience. Exactly the type of information I was hoping was in the comments. Question: if you were buying today, with the same needs you currently have, would you still opt for a F350, or would the F250 with the 7.3 suffice? Thanks.
@herb7877
@herb7877 Жыл бұрын
@@trenegade5441 i originally wanted a f250 . After a a little research I found that I could only opt for a 3.55 or 4.30 rear gears. The f350 was either the 3.73 or 4.30. I’ve had the 3.55 before and it’s not tall enough and I thought the 4.30 could be too tall. I wanted the 3.73. I could always drop a gear if needed. Nut for nut, bolt for bolt the f350 & f250 are the same, except for that and an overload spring on the f350. The cost difference is/ was $1700. You gain an extra 1k load cap as well. At the price of these I felt another few dollars was well worth it. So yes, I’d go the f350 route again.
@trenegade5441
@trenegade5441 Жыл бұрын
@@herb7877 awesome! Thank you very much for your reply! Great information!
@domingosaucedo8008
@domingosaucedo8008 11 ай бұрын
I have the 2020 f350 7.3 and I love it but I didn’t buy it for the mileage but instead for reliability & towing purposes. With a truck that heavy I’m not to concerned about how fast I can take off since I’m not out proving anything cause I know what I’m driving. (A beast!💪🏽😤
@michaeltd578
@michaeltd578 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the payload situation. The third truck shown, has a 6.8 with the off-road package, otherwise almost identical to the first 6.8? So you're losing nearly 1000lbs of payload because of that package? Maybe I don't understand gross weight rating. And why is the 7.3 tow rating about 4000lbs more when the HP/Torque difference to the 6.8 is pretty marginal?
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
The offroad package has softer springs
@79dent
@79dent 11 ай бұрын
I think he's also comparing a 250 to a 350 but I could be blind. The 5th wheel / gooseneck package adds gvwr, the engine adds gvwr and the axle ratio can also marginally change the GVWR, as well as the cab and box setup, and 2wd vs 4x4.
@shaunhalfacre6606
@shaunhalfacre6606 Жыл бұрын
Not worth $10,000 difference in price imo.
@kylesummers1565
@kylesummers1565 Жыл бұрын
Lol. getting over 19mpg combined on second tank with my V8 Tremor that I picked up last month. Peace, Love!!
@romaldemgle5867
@romaldemgle5867 Жыл бұрын
Me 7.3 all the way
@johnw4999
@johnw4999 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised about the 7.3’s fuel economy here. My ‘22 F-250 Lariat Tremor w the 7.3 averages 12.4 in the city and 14 on the Hwy
@stevenhooten4275
@stevenhooten4275 Жыл бұрын
What is your tire size and having a tremor you get less mpg cause you have heavier setup unless you drive factory size and lowest aggressive terrain tires your not going to be able to see high mpg I have a 2019 f250 6.2l crew cab long flatbed with factory size mud tires I saw a drop in mpg of 3 to 4 mpg going from factory bed to a flatbed and all terrain tires to mud tires
@nostradumass1
@nostradumass1 Жыл бұрын
What's that thang you put in the dash to start it?
@79dent
@79dent 11 ай бұрын
The key
@Clevelandsteamer324
@Clevelandsteamer324 Ай бұрын
With the def issues on diesels I guess 7.3
@johnathanleonardo912
@johnathanleonardo912 Жыл бұрын
Ford should make an 8.2 L V10
@devengudinas1649
@devengudinas1649 Жыл бұрын
Both these motors replace the old v10
@mmr0221
@mmr0221 Жыл бұрын
18.9L V36
@dylanbuk7055
@dylanbuk7055 Жыл бұрын
That’s specific
@juliojames5986
@juliojames5986 Жыл бұрын
Not a surprise. Towing ? You talk way to fast for this ol man . 👍🏻
@davidkirksey8521
@davidkirksey8521 Жыл бұрын
You only want Godzilla if you are constantly tow/hauling. Otherwise get the 6.8..
@wizard_of_poz4413
@wizard_of_poz4413 Жыл бұрын
Nah both are toys
@michaelmiller7196
@michaelmiller7196 Жыл бұрын
@@wizard_of_poz4413bro you are a troll. Youre commenting on everyones shii. Get a life man. My god. We get it. Diesel is life for you. Not everyone wants or is going to get a diesel. Put your time in to something more useful
@rpc2112
@rpc2112 8 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2024 F-250 7.3L Godzilla 8-foot bed Lariat ultimate with panoramic moon roof and smart hitch for only $71k in CA. 👍🏼🇺🇸
@gilsalas5535
@gilsalas5535 Ай бұрын
7.3
@dadgarage7966
@dadgarage7966 Жыл бұрын
Ford Canada wants $2500 more for the 7.3L. Not sure if it's worth it.
@WBOS72
@WBOS72 Жыл бұрын
They are both code named Godzilla, same articture.
@ps3pspgoandroid
@ps3pspgoandroid Жыл бұрын
On the configuration page 6.8 vs 7.3 rear frame is not the same.
@acacia987
@acacia987 Жыл бұрын
6.8L torque curve?
@79dent
@79dent 11 ай бұрын
Similar to the 7.3, pushed out about 300 ish rpm.
@SuperDuty23XL
@SuperDuty23XL 9 ай бұрын
I like the XT with STX option and 6.8. Reasonable price.
@PassivePortfolios
@PassivePortfolios Жыл бұрын
Match the engine to your towing needs.
@frictionhitch
@frictionhitch Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 F250 Super Duty with a 6.4 L gas in it. It's awesome. I paid 28 k for it with less than five thousand miles on it. I pulled into the dump it's over 20000 lb(perhaps over 23,000 shhhhh) and it doesn't even feel like I'm towing anything . I to live in Utah and some of the steep slopes if you are telling a bunch you can expect to get just over three miles per gallon. I averaged just about 13 MPG over 40000 miles. I do more Towing the most of you though. If I was going to buy a dedicated tow rig I probably go diesel but if you're towing less than 75% of the time these engines are awesome. The turning radius on this truck is shockingly good. I can parallel park a dump trailer in Salt Lake City in one of these like it's a Prius and mine doesn't even have that overhead 3D camera thing. I think this year I'm going to get me a 7.3 for personal use to replace my old camping pickup. The confidence you feel on the road while towing with one of these trucks is just phenomenal. On top of that I haven't changed anything other than brake pads and the oil. These new trucks are just awesome.
@mrfiestas
@mrfiestas Жыл бұрын
no u do not. ford doesnt make that size displacement
@frictionhitch
@frictionhitch Жыл бұрын
@@mrfiestas my bad it's a 6.2
@dylankimbro1115
@dylankimbro1115 Жыл бұрын
I’m cool with 6.2L
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