2023 Mac Buyers Guide

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[@arnavbharti]

India does not have refurbished products so we'll have to buy original :(

[@AJ56]

Yup thank our imbecilic government..

[@palashkale]

Macbook ka price to theek hi h new bhi, bas iPhones aur Apple Watch ke prices inflated h bahut jyada…

[@ParvezHasanRaju]

Mac mini le lo, sab se safe purchase hoga

[@awdadwadwad1723]

I’m still rocking my m1 ipad pro 12.9 with MKB (which is 99% of time on) since release and I absolutely love it. I had both MacBook Pro 14 and 16 and m1 air and I returned them all. Photo editing feels wayyy better on iPad (Lightroom), animations are much better on iPad too, it feels so good to navigate. Web browsing and media consumption is also better with touch. Yesterday I needed to edit Word document, then sign it. I did it on iPad with Pencil while on MB I would need to print it out and scan it lol.

[@Luma_29]

It honestly still surprises me just how well my M1 MacBook Pro from 2020 is still holding up. The battery life is still great, I can multitask like crazy with no slowdown, and the TouchBar is still a cool party trick. I was planning to upgrade when M3 Max came out but to be honest I think this machine will last for another 3-4 years before I even begin to notice any slowing down. I just just it had ProMotion

[@BaconFaceMcGee]

If I had the money, I’d buy the maxed out Mac mini or the maxed out Mac Studio.

[@EfLuis]

Definitely going to get the M2 Stuido to check E-mails and watch KZbin videos.

[@T10107]

🤣🤣🤣

[@QUANTUMJOKER]

I bought an M1 Max Mac Studio in August 2023, and I'm extremely happy with it. I had three options: an M1 Max Mac Studio, an M2 Max Mac Studio or an M2 Pro Mac Mini. All three Macs are overkill for my needs as a writer and editor, but I chose the M1 Max Mac Studio because it was the best value of the three: the M1 Max has a significantly more powerful GPU than the M2 Pro (and I do game a lot on my Macs), MyMac in Melbourne had the M1 Max Mac Studio for a very nice 10% discount, and two more CPU cores and six more GPU cores in the M2 Max (and the same RAM and SSD) wasn't really worth another $500 to me.

[@theoneonly5368]

MBA 15" 16gb/1tb is the way to go. Not trying to carry a 5lb brick around with the 16".

[@HughRussell06]

I plan to buy a certified refurbished M2 Pro 14” (unbinned M2 Pro, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd) at the end of next year to finally partially switch away from windows to a Mac (I have a gaming PC as well)

[@eduarddobroiu]

That's what I'm planning to do swell. Nice setup! Go for it.

[@MOBMJ]

I’m rocking a 2015 5K iMac 27 inch. I love it, but I need an upgrade. Since it is getting slow. I want an all in one iMac but I don’t want to downgrade to a 24 inch. I know there are rumors that Apple will bring back the 27 inch iMac or possibly even 30 inches or 32. I know you can buy the Studio Display but buying a Studio Display with a Mac mini, keyboard and mouse can easily cost you thousands of dollars. I hope they bring it back 🙏

[@MikeDold]

It’s so crazy how the view of the desktop lineup has completely flipped in a few short years. I worked at Apple retail back in the intel days and whenever a customer wanted to buy a desktop it was an iMac, all day everyday. Very rarely did we sell a Mac mini, and we never ever sold a Mac Pro lol. But now with Apple’s perfect spectrum of value with power, performance and price, with options along the entire thing, the Mac mini and Mac Studio is the go to choice for desktop. With the iMac off to the side like it’s this weird “wrong” choice. Just crazy how things have changed. I’m hoping Apple gives the iMac lineup some love with a bigger option and pro chips etc. I’m holding out hope that they will with the M3 lineup so that way there’s a good option for everyone.

[@beeldbuijs1003]

I like the matching colours and the all-in-one form factor, but the downside is the repairability. Also, it's just weird to buy an M1 iMac while there are M2's and there is M3 around the corner. And finally, 24' is a bit small when people are used to up to 40" monitors and 55", 65" and bigger TV's.

[@ChaoticHaze]

When WWDC happened, BestBuy had a deal on base model m1 macbook airs for $800 new. I bought a used m1 macbook air for $723. Fantastic deal. imo unless you're looking for a used m1 mac mini, a used m1 macbook air is the best price to performance machine that runs MacOS. And IMO, m1 is going to be fast and be supported for at least 5 years, so most people should go this route unless you need a mac studio. I wouldn't even entertain any other options really. Even for software engineering, m1 is enough.

[@anilm.s8356]

Today's prices at MicroCenter: 13.3" M1 MBA is $799. M2 MBA is $949. M2 MBP is $1099. 15" M2 MBA is $1199 and 14" M1MBP Refurb with 16GB RAM and 512 GB SSD is $1399.

[@kwadwothestan]

My parents badly need a new iMac. Their 2013 iMac died and they are hardcore desktop people (they don’t really like laptops as a primary computer) and are also non techies so we don’t really want to go the Mac mini + display route. All in ones are the sinplest and most straightforward computers for them. But I told them we have to wait til they update the iMac with the M2 chip. They’re using my old 2015 MacBook Pro right now and getting by, but that laptop is definitely a little long in the tooth although it is still running really well. Apple please hurry up and give us the iMac M2!

[@jeffreymedeiros6253]

They’re releasing the m3 iMac in November. Announcement at September event.

[@XInfinity2024]

The only problem with the base M2 Macbooks is the performance being lower due to the 1 SSD chip in it vs the 1 level upgrade having 2 SSD chips in it

[@KLW50ish]

Yup, I did it, speced up the Mac mini and paid the price. However I am digging it!

[@alexk1418]

I have an iMac 21 and m1 air and I really like both of them. Ive gotten used to the white bezels and the screen is great *shrugs* at least much better than most general displays out there.

[@seanchaney2546]

Got my m1 air for 600. Just going to keep it until the m3 14” MacBook Pro comes out.

[@rafaeldomenikos5978]

I bet the only reason that Apple still sells the 13” pro is because a lot of people buy it due to ignorance. I can really easily see a scenario about someone that’s not too familiar with computers wanting something for work, going to a store, noticing a very reasonably priced “Pro” model and buying it thinking it’s gonna be better than the air for their “pro” work of e-mails and excel. I mean for someone not knowing their stuff it would make total sense that a MacBook Pro would be a lot better than a MacBook Air. Plus I bet if they have friends into tech, they will have socially listened about how good the MacBook Pro’s are, without specifying about the 13” vs 14” & 16”.

[@Jferrari427]

I thought my iPhones screen was dirty, but it was actually Drew’s background 😂😂😂😂

[@smartphonefan5226]

I recently got the M1 MacBook Air and it has been great. I got it for only $799 at Best Buy.

[@ThatOnePaulGuy]

I got one for pretty cheap too! It’s an amazing, capable machine :)

[@smartphonefan5226]

@@ThatOnePaulGuyAgreed. The M1 Chip has aged pretty well.

[@senorfrog5605]

do you think the new 15" MBA is worth getting? i like my 14" m1 mbp, im just irked because i dont recall apple ever slashing prices on their products this quickly. i also havent been paying attention to what apples been scheming ever since i got my mbp, so i havent dug into the specs of the apples new offerings as much as i normally would. i was initially pretty annoyed when i saw it started at $1600ish... but correct me if im wrong, but it seems like the new lineup is basically the same as what they gave us when m1 mbps came out. the pro still starts at 2000. the lower priced models are basically the equivalent of the binned m1 mbp that they used to sell. i think. if im wrong, please correct me. i grow tired of keeping tabs on apple.

[@trevyn95]

Good advice drew! I wanted an m2 MacBook Air with 16gb ram and 512 storage and it got out of my budget. It was a better option and better value for the money to buy a refurbished 14 inch MacBook Pro! I love it so far!

[@behradbagheri4481]

I can say it's the best Guide on the internet! awesome Guide👍

[@AbiyBattleSpell]

if your a heavy user id get a 16gb ram m1 macbook air. reviewers always say the heat is a issue fr m2. and i do think its overblown for normal people. but on my m1 ipad pro it does get warm and lags cuz i use it hard. so ill admit i was paranoid what happen to a m2 macbook air. if your similar to me def consider m1 still as the differences are neglible and ya can get a good deal. spent bout 1350 for a refurb direct from apple non binned m1 chip 16 gb ram 1 tb. so only like 200ish i think last i cheked more then the base m2 for like way more storage and ram. def something to consider if ya are worried about heat or are budget concious but want a alot and dont care bout fast charging or a marginal chip improvement in m2. and dont care bout the other small upgrades

[@TheBardsCorner]

Considering I need 32GB+ of memory and 2TB of storage, MacBook Pro (16) or Mac Studio is the way to go. Interesting that, for the same configuration (M2 Max 30gpu), the MBP costs 1300$ more! I mean, sure, the display & the portability… but the ports & cooling system… What I mean is that the MBP is overpriced, not that the MS is underpriced 😂 Thanks for the video!

[@andre9095]

I love my M1 imac that I use as a second screen and keyboard/mouse hub.

[@Jferrari427]

Dude the OG M1 chip still kicks ass.

[@uniszuurmond]

Would love if you'd do an alternative video for those of us who do not have access to Apple Refurbished, Amazon or eBay in our country. We basically have to buy new - what would you recommend then?

[@thisismartinn]

another right use case for the M2 Pro/Max is when your workflow needs a ton of GPU power. Thanks to the proper scaling of the GPU, M2 Pro can easily beats M1 Max and M2 Max/Ultra can be a class of its own.

[@katrinabryce]

In the UK, the M2 Pro Mac Mini actually works out more expensive than the equivalent spec M2 Pro Mac Studio. So unless you are really tight for space, get the Studio.

[@ClydeyP]

Thought the Mac Studio didn't have M2 Pro I thought the minimum spec was M2 Max

[@katrinabryce]

@@ClydeyP Sorry you are right. Mac Mini with non-binned 12-core M2 Pro, 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 10GB Eithernet - £2799 Mac Studio with binned 12-core M2 Max, 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD (10GB Ethernet is the only option) - £2699. If you don't care about the 10GB Ethernet, perhaps because you have no other 10GB devices and it will run at 1GB anyway, you can save £100 on the Mini and pay the same price as the Studio. The difference between the non-binned M2 Pro and binned M2-Max is the Max has more GPU cores, so you get 11 extra GPU cores plus some extra ports, and save £100.

[@EduardoBispo-z5n]

What about 1399 for an air 15/16g/512 at Best Buy deal now?

[@anilm.s8356]

Today's prices at MicroCenter: 13.3" M1 MBA is $799. M2 MBA is $949. M2 MBP is $1099. 15" M2 MBA is $1199 and 14" M1MBP Refurb with 16GB RAM and 512 GB SSD is $1399.

[@paulwoaert]

You forgot a detail in your comparison : the 6 speakers of the macbook Air 15 sound almost as good as those of the macbook pro 14, according to many testimonials. So my question is : have you experienced the macbook air 15 yourself ?

[@sparky6757]

Not to mention that 15 inches IS more than 14 inches. An extra inch and it’s lighter? If you don’t need the pro features but do need 512gb that’s still reason enough to go for the Air if those matter to you.

[@TailosiveTech]

Can’t cause I’m out of the country when they started delivering. But based on what others have said I still think the Pro sounds better

[@TailosiveTech]

.2 pounds lighter? Come on we’re not being that picky. The benefits of the Pro are far more noticeable than 1” of screen

[@sparky6757]

@@TailosiveTech 1 inch can be a lot. 0.6 inches is the difference between standard iPhones and the big ones, and yet some people swear by one size or the other. In both cases, it’s just under 10% bigger diagonally.

[@TailosiveTech]

1” is a much larger portion of a phone display than a 14” laptop display

[@alanbeextremeuniversemore]

hey tailosive tech in Argentina they discontinued the m1 macbook air 13 inch and the m1 and m2 13 inch macbook pro because it does not have magsafe there mandatory charging port is magsafe in argentina

[@axllebeer]

Still going strong with my M1 MacBook Air with 512 gb of storage. Great everyday all around laptop

[@aidanely]

M2 MacBook Pro...I have it, I am not paying for it by the way, it's just a Christmas present we're paying monthly for, however for what I do with it, I love the battery life on it and the screen is alright, however it's not ideal for anything if I were to push it a bit

[@RealJoseph123]

Picture this deal for the 15-inch MacBook Air. The back to school deals are starting soon. What if I get a student for me to buy the 15-inch MacBook Air $1,500 new with the student discount and the $100 Apple Gift Card comes with it? Would you still recommend it? This comes with 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage, and a gift card. or get the 14-inch MacBook Pro?

[@onedollasnake]

14 inch m1 one is better it can be had for only 100 dollars more on apples site and even the same other places

[@BlaqViper]

What would have made the refurb M1 Mac Studio really attractive is if it came default with a 10GB ethernet port. As a matter of fact no mid to high end piece of hardware should come with a 1GB port. At a minimum all ethernet ports should be 2.5GB. Multigig internet service and network switches are useless if your fire breathing Mac Studio is only transferring at a gig.

[@beeldbuijs1003]

The vast majority doesn't use a home server or internet connection that can handle 1 Gb, if the even use an ethernet cable at all. The 1% rest of us can simply buy a USB-C to 1 Gb ethernet adapter for less than €20 / $20 so this is hardly an obstacle.

[@tonyburzio4107]

Apple is pressing to get their 3nm line of chips out, but TSMC is using that line for "something else" right now. If it works, there will be new amazing M3 processors next year. If not, then there won't be anything next year.

[@johnmac341]

Great video and don't take this the wrong way but it's been so nice not have skits. Take care.

[@douginNC28139]

Useful information without the usual Apple fanboy hype seen elsewhere on KZbin. Thanks!

[@Kieci_igor]

Just ordered a m2 MacBook air from Apple certified refurbished for £979

[@deltadom33]

So are you going to buy a mac pro and a vision pro to review Its only 12,000 dollars and then the vision oro is 3,500 dollars You need to be nice to your friend timmy he may guve yiu some free samples The mac pro needs upgradable ram and ssd Infact all the macs need upgradable ram and ssd , I have an m1 imac and i am happy with it but not the keyboard or the mouse I want a rollable screen imac or macbook There has been any changes in design with the apple silicon which we were promised using some of the features from ios As magsafe for the iphone on a laptop or the 3d camera on vision pro on every mac device from phones, macbooks , imacs,

[@RGTGame64]

oppps I just order the max out M1 iMac my bad hehe

[@kookcity5626]

Do for iPad! :)

[@bipplefilms]

Can you do one for iPad please!!

[@TailosiveTech]

Don’t buy any of them 🤣

[@composimple364]

Accept the fact that there are 55% of people out there when buying computers will seriously consider the tabletop aesthetics. iMac is great. Buy it.

[@sparky6757]

I still maintain that the best Mac is the M1 iPad Air/Pro. Any time I’ve wanted to do something on it that I couldn’t, it wouldn’t have worked well on a Mac either and would’ve required Windows regardless. 11 inches is the perfect size for portability, and you can get it fully spec’d up (256gb, cellular, good keyboard case and Apple Pencil) for under $900 USD. A refurbished M1 Macbook Air’s a little cheaper than that but it lacks a touchscreen, Apple Pencil, cellular support, the ability to detach the screen from the keyboard - all things that are important to some people and not to others, but most of those are an added charge that you can remove if you’re not concerned about drawing, annotating, cellular, or a magnetic keyboard. This all goes out the window if you’ve got specific things in mind that you do a lot that the iPad’s not good at, but the typical person’s not gonna be doing any video editing, and if you like downloading programs from the internet that you couldn’t find on the App Store you’re much better off on Windows than MacOS.

[@Thechosenitalianone]

Gooooooooood Morning. First.

[@NatureShy]

Good morning (third)

[@dejavuking]

The reason I’d never touch a second and or refurbished laptop/smartphone with a ten foot barge pole. Is the potential for previous criminality associated with the device!. The IMEI is locked to the device no matter what hard drive swaps you do, no matter what refurbishment apple does. If for example a previous owner has researched how to make a B0Mb guess what that goes with the computer. So when you turn it on at home and connect it to your Wi-Fi it’s going to ping this devices associated with terrorist or other appalling offences is operating at this new location!. You then have to prove you are not the one who’s been accessing said material!. Good luck with that one basically!. It’s simply not worth the few $100 savings from new!. You risk ruining your entire life for something you didn’t do for the sake of saving a bit of cash….do not do it!.

[@awdadwadwad1723]

I bet you wear tinfoil hat while you sleep too.

[@dejavuking]

@@awdadwadwad1723 just the kind of comment I’d expect from someone with a username such as Awdadawdadawdad!. Btw you missed out the word a “wear a tinfoil hat”.

[@dejavuking]

For context I come from a security backround with a degree in criminology and criminal psychology. DO NOT SELL USED LAPTOPS OR SMARTPHONES. Why because if a criminal purchases it again looks up how to built a b@mb, downloads disgusting images…guess what their going to say nah mate bought it second hand it was the previous owner I didn’t do it….you then have to prove you didn’t do it!. Again good luck with that one, hope you have fantastic lawyers. It’s not worth the few hundred quid!. Do you really want to end up on a terror watch list or another list because you sold your laptop and some evil sh1t did something bad on it then framed you!. He’ll no.

[@sheldonwhite4960]

I’m getting my Mac Studio tomorrow 🎉 I love that thing it’s perfect😊 and I do have the MacBook Air M2 512 GB of memory 8 gigs of RAM and I am waiting for iPhone 15 pro max I’m using iPhone 13 🎉