2023 Nissan Z 9AT vs 2022 Toyota Supra 8AT, the unexpected happens! Drag and Roll Race.

2023 Nissan Z 9AT vs 2022 Toyota Supra 8AT, the unexpected happens! Drag and Roll Race.
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[@SamCarLegion]

BMW really made a great Supra! Please read the comments here: instagram.com/p/BspaYctnZVl/?igshid=NDc0ODY0MjQ=

[@bmo7784]

I'm pretty sure it's not that simple! LOL 😂

[@BabaYagaRacing]

B58 > VR30 just that simple

[@elenchus]

@@bmo7784 Toyota's a BMW tuner company sort of like Alpina.

[@Mund333M]

it is only made by BMW, all optimizations and settings are made by Toyota itself, what do you think why it is a lot faster than the Z4m with the same engine

[@elenchus]

@@Mund333M totally agreed, Toyota's a very good tuner. I love their bodykit too.

[@avis1978]

It's not just the tires difference. It's also the HP\torque difference. A different channel ( savgegeese) did a dyno and a very in depth comparison test on both cars at the same place, and the Z has only 372hp\362t and the supra has 397hp\423t + the zf transmission.

[@BabaYagaRacing]

B58 ftw

[@evanleo7633]

BMW also has better software for their traction control

[@yuanlee6405]

@@BabaYagaRacing yessir no hate but i love the new Z but still supra for me

[@mattrancho]

True, & BMW always underrate their HP, so I guess Supra falls under that category. The Supra is also 200 pounds lighter than the new Z, which really shows in the higher speeds (especially in the roll races). Even though I still want the Z over the Supra, I love the supra even more now that they came out with Manual.

[@onlysublime]

It's also the power to weight ratio.

[@joshuato579]

The dude in the supra has a funny poker face as he casually gaps the Z lol

[@jimwallace4164]

Dude in the Supra is an A+ guy and his car is capable of gapping a lot of other cars. Cool as a cucumber.

[@RayzaBlayz]

Based on the title got me thinking the z would win lol. This outcome was very much expected haha

[@shabanajannik2600]

Exactly

[@wendellmotton4982]

Can you delete your comment? Your comment is easily seen at the clicking on the video and it spoils it for everyone else

[@robsnow2099]

@@wendellmotton4982 no ...the title is click bait.

[@davevolz6138]

C l i k B a i t

[@Albee166]

This is hilarious

[@HanabiiiUwU]

Even if the Supra is faster, it's nice that we have the choice between two great cars. They both feel different, so just choose which one feels best to you!

[@beexiong2995]

Except dealers just told enthusiasts to f off with markups.

[@STICKSHFT]

I don’t think anyone at all was surprised by these results. Nothing was unexpected

[@sv96jo]

Well i do

[@STICKSHFT]

@@sv96jo well you’re the only one who thought that a 20 year old chassis with a parts bin motor/transmission combo from Nissan would keep up with much more modern design from bmw

[@ets419]

The powertrain is newer than the supras lol, chassis doesn’t make difference in a head to head lmfao, I could get a c6 vette for half the price and smoke both these on a chassis that 40 years old

[@STICKSHFT]

@@ets419 what’s your point? You were shocked that the vq30ddtt got smoked by a b58? Congratulations for being the only one on the internet to be surprised

[@STICKSHFT]

@@ets419 also chasis has a huge role in putting power down. A c6 corvette makes 430 hp/ 430 ft lbs. Much more hp and torque than an mk 5 Supra and its lighter but is slower in the quarter mile. Yes you could make the c6 faster but it would need much more power to do it

[@NvSrAgE679]

This is exactly how you’d think this would go. Unless you expected a bigger gap by the Supra.

[@NvSrAgE679]

@Catholic Firefighter just to clarify, we in Canada refer to it as the Hostage Convoy.

[@ThatCarGuy1000]

@@NvSrAgE679 now I wonder what you’re replying to😂

[@NvSrAgE679]

@@ThatCarGuy1000 some nonsense that had nothing to do with this video. they removed it

[@ThatCarGuy1000]

@@NvSrAgE679 I can guess. Lol we have tinfoil hat guys here in Stabitoba Winterpeg too😂

[@buildmorefarms1007]

It costs 8 grand more than the Nissan....8 grand in mods and the Supra is in the dust

[@fahed-ri4vi]

Thank you for this comparison, I was waiting for it since the first day Nissan announced the new Z. The results just as expected!

[@SamCarLegion]

Thanks for watching!

[@asharista3152]

Nissan is still the winner because BMW represented Toyota. Toyota is busy making corollas

[@mattyoz0]

There's one more thing the supra does over z that these races didn't show. It absolutely destroys the z around a track.

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

Yea.... One is German engineered and tuned by Japanese hands while the other is a fully inferior Japanese half assery.

[@mattyoz0]

@DaxieStudioz what's not true?

[@ChaperoneKnight]

@DaxieStudioz if you're saying the Z would beat the Supra on a track you're dead wrong my guy

[@airsoftfamilyasf843]

Umm , do you not research? The Z gets destroyed by the GR86 around a track lol.

[@doorkicker8507]

I remember all those people that said “ Wait till the new Z comes out. It will smoke the Supra”. Well it’s out and who’s smoking who. Even AMS said the Supra would walk this Z. And they are the leading authority on this motor and mods.

[@302daddyd]

Yeah I remember all those trolls and they were trolling hard. Now they're no where to be found. I'm sure they're in the cave crying, lol.

[@beexiong2995]

@@302daddyd they are the ones saying its a drivers car with a manual. Now the supra has a manual too lol. So much for marketing

[@vidademikey9790]

BuT wE gOt A mAnuAl. Hah. Now so does the supra. Got em!

[@germancruz3318]

I remember that too XD

[@simjet22]

B58 is a MONSTER

[@EverdayCarGuy]

You can say better tires and better transmission 1,000 times but you might as well just say better car.

[@rivneo1]

That also cost another 10k to get.

[@sv96jo]

No the Z is heavier

[@urbannomad8126]

That BMW I6 is brutal. In all applications. 240, 440… etc.

[@Dyesnipa]

I picked up a 2020 m240... What an engine!

[@twebb5896]

@@Dyesnipa I have a had a 2020 M240 since January and I love it!

[@Ry.Guy.]

This is some awesome break in time for the Z 🤣🤣

[@brianrand1129]

Thank u! I have been waiting months for another head to head 🏁 race.Since the 1st compare race 3 way with the stang. 👍

[@DatnaPatna]

The "Supra killer" according to the Z fanboys :D

[@elikinzie23]

You can really hear the difference in the speed the transmissions shifting.

[@francisgomes9976]

You are clearly biased toward Nissan Z still got killer every possible way. Won 2nd roll by jumping early...

[@brianacevedo9701]

Yes this is what I’ve been waiting for!!!

[@katrinagwen]

Not just the transmission…but the torque-to-weight ratio.

[@mattmasi303]

I actually had a deposit on both last month and whatever dealer got their car first I bought, I ended up with a 22 supra premium, love the Z but the power to weight of the car is amazing , both are beautiful cars

[@904Derek1]

Congrats!

[@zatilla]

Good choice my man. Also way better tuneable. Stage 2+ you can destroy nearly all cars you come across

[@pssita]

That extra 10k. I thought the Zs were selling for 100k+. 😂

[@yomamapked]

I’ve seen people buy the new Z for 70k+. I hope they are happy with their purchase, for that amount of money you could get supra+mods

[@Jihadbearzwithgunz]

@@yomamapked yeah 30k markup is ridiculous to say the least wouldn't pay 70k for it unless it made double the power it currently makes and maybe was awd

[@priceverity5289]

@@cumhugs Personally I’m glad that the car is BMW. Toyotas interiors look and feel much cheaper in comparison.

[@KillaRock404]

First year sports cars usually see a markup. Sometimes it’s just better to wait

[@Sweet_Jelly39]

@@priceverity5289 Isn't BMW only made engine? Everything else is Toyota?💀 But i agree with you tho'. Mercedes probably had the best looking interior follow by BMW, Hyundai/Kia and Honda. Toyota not known for best interior💀 but sh1t damn reliable! Tho.

[@Chriskary1]

Thank you for this video!

[@SamCarLegion]

You are so welcome!

[@mqbr22]

I bet you could swap tires and the Nissan would still loose. There is more to a car getting traction besides tires. Pretty awesome video but maybe try to stage more even? The Supra was always like a car length behind the Nissan at the start of the race

[@BabaYagaRacing]

The new Z is a flop

[@flip90925]

@@BabaYagaRacing can't wait to see you giving them the sauce

[@mqbr22]

@@BabaYagaRacing imagine buying a Nissan Z and not the Supra haha

[@BabaYagaRacing]

@@mqbr22 just delusional "jdm" fan boys lol

[@mattyoz0]

Yeah, he was trying so hard to give the Z an advantage.

[@HOARaven]

Having seen all this, what aftermarket/mod/tuning potential does the Z have? What can we do with the car to really make it competitive against other modded (or powerfully stocked) streetcars?

[@rivneo1]

Its already doing 9.7 seconds in the 1/4 mile with stock engine and stock transmission with mods.

[@Nick-hz2kl]

Supra is an amazing car . I’m blessed to own a 2022 3.0 . I love it

[@SamCarLegion]

You lucky BMW took care of the supra

[@davec5237]

Great, thanks for sharing 👍

[@fast02gt]

The Supra continues to impress!

[@SamCarLegion]

BMW did a superb job

[@rewantasubba5180]

💯

[@skip741x3]

Now we need a supra vs Z race where both are manuals...would be great to see

[@user-dr4iu8mg5u]

Same results

[@kingGfour]

@@user-dr4iu8mg5u the manual supra is even lighter so same results lol

[@petrolhead8851]

That will be more of a drivers race! (Real race) in my opinion! This automatic shit sucks!!!

[@6844376]

Gearing, 200lbs. less weight and more torque! Not so much the tires.. just my opinion. Great job 👍..

[@SamCarLegion]

It is the tires. The bridgestone are bad tires for drags

[@6844376]

Hey, you were there and I wasn't so you're absolutely right! More drags pls.. 👌

[@Eugen-E]

@@SamCarLegion Bridgestone Potenza Sport is as good as Pilot Sport 4S. Check Tyre-Reviews uk comparison.

[@captainbarge]

@@SamCarLegion you know we have ears, right? Car wasn't spinning wheels most of the time you're saying it's spinning :D

[@SamCarLegion]

@@captainbarge you need to clear your ears or check your speakers. I am driving the car I know how the car drives. You are watching it on your phone.

[@aehmerchant]

The BMW Supra driver has the look on his face that’s says “I am so tired of winning so easily”

[@2009polostar]

That's right. A BMW Supra.

[@jedispartancoolman]

Still a supra at the end of the day licensed by Toyota

[@jona199924]

​@@jedispartancoolmanwith a bmw heart. It'll always be a bmw 😂

[@jedispartancoolman]

@jona199924 my man saying that like an Mspec BMW motor ain't a pedigree

[@jedispartancoolman]

@@jona199924 🤣

[@jadentha1090]

The B58 itself can handle a lot of power and additionally the power potential for the Supra is pretty insane. I'm an owner of a 2021 Supra, just personally its been a great car to own.

[@SamCarLegion]

The BMW engine is a superb engine in many ways.

[@akashivivo755]

Is it reliable? Have you encountered any problems while on the road?

[@jadentha1090]

30k miles in less than two years. no issue@@akashivivo755

[@hansolo5330]

The GR Supra is such a beast! INSANE

[@mrvwbug4423]

Nothing unexpected. The Supra puts out more power than is claimed on paper, plus has the ZF 8 speed which is the best conventional automatic money can buy. Also remember the Supra is lighter and has more torque. Base model Z definitely has lots of tuning potential at a fairly attractive price, but stock for stock the Supra is the better car.

[@supremewhip]

Don’t forget - whatever tuning potential the Z has, multiple that 2x for the BMW.

[@TerrannotOP]

Supra has way better tuning potential, so the Z losses in every sports related category. so sad that it had 3 years or so, they just couldn't beat their benchmark car.

[@brianb4501]

@@TerrannotOP Was this rebranded BMW really their benchmark? Or did they do what people asked like update the 20 year old interior and throw in the vr30 and call it a day?

[@2012summr]

@@brianb4501 Looking at it from a competitive standpoint the supra smacks it in all categories tho especially with the inclusion of the 6speed tranny BUT i guess the Z is good for die hard Z fans that aren't looking for anything else in the market.

[@TerrannotOP]

@@brianb4501 😂rebranded bmw which also smacked the m2

[@Off-Road10]

Looks like Toyota knew what they were doing when they teamed up with bmw😂😂.

[@philharris4504]

Only so much credit can be given to tires. The Z just plainly got spanked.

[@jamisonjamisonx]

Remember when Nissan made quality cars? I barely do, it was a loooong time ago. That interior looks like all hard molded plastic & cardboard wrapped in pleather and spray painted blue. It's wild when Corvette has a miles-better interior.

[@YTkingcherry]

Remember those numbers on the Supra isn’t BHP is WHP 😅

[@mattyoz0]

100%

[@stevenblair9454]

I love the video pairing up two beautiful cars with a great history against each other is always the best me just hearing the video anybody can tell that the Supra has a shorter gear ratio it was shifting a lot faster than the z was. I feel like Nissan kind of messed up and gave the new z a little bit too long of gear ratio I would probably still pick the Nissan 400z I've been a fan of the Z's since the 240 and at least it holds true to actually being a Nissan not just a Toyota badge with a beamer motor thrown in it I still love the new Supra to a point but the motor that's in it kind of makes my stomach turn like I said I have respect for a beamer inline 6 in a beamer just not in a Supra I'm pretty sure we can all agree

[@BrownSofaGamer]

All the Z fans are gonna try and justify why it lost now, even though it’s still just a Q50 in a 370Z chassis. Still can’t believe people think BMW making the Supra is a bad thing when it’s slaughtering the Z in all aspects, and Toyota would’ve never been able to do that on their own. Also why does everyone throw tuning into the argument, like the Supra isn’t the better tuning platform too.

[@testing448]

Yet Toyota still doesn’t have an answers to the GTR

[@testing448]

And yes it’s a bad thing instead of making doing it themselves they had someone else do it for them. Everything in that Z is strictly Nissan and it didn’t do half bad. I mean even Toyota LFA 1LR-GUE was develop by Yamaha and Toyota GR86 from Subaru cmon Toyota. I’m not hating but it’s just facts.

[@BrownSofaGamer]

@@testing448 Toyota doesn’t need an answer to the GTR.

[@BrownSofaGamer]

@@testing448 There’s nothing wrong with Toyota not doing themselves, because they couldn’t have. The end result we got is a great sports car, and one that’s better than the Z, and yet people complain and want to act like Nissans a better car company than BMW, which it isn’t lol. If that’s literally the only thing Z fans can argue over the Supra then that’s grasping at straws.

[@testing448]

@@BrownSofaGamer I get you and I’ve been an avid Nissan fan for many years. My first Nissan was a 1991 Nissan Sentra SE-R, then came to a 300zx TT, SE-R spec v, a couple of g37 coupes and sedans. 350z and a Q50. I now own a 2017 Q60RS400 which is the same motor on that new Z. I’ve owned one BMW e92 coupe m3 which I loved to death but it came along with a lot of issues and left me stranded a couple of times. As far as technology goes BMW takes the lead with superior engineering but Nissan has a more championship caliber racing heritage than BMW and even Toyota. GTR was banned from racing back then it just dominated the European league. Stock for stock the new Supra is better but when it comes to modding I’m already seeing modded Q50 and Q60 giving a modded new Supra hell.

[@lyndoncobb7077]

How did u get your hands on the 9at I thought nissan recalled all of them for transmission issues?

[@mustafatariq3252]

Say whatever people want to say but I think it was very smart of toyota to collaborate with bmw for their supra. They made one hell of a beast.

[@msrr1303]

Newer/better chassis, better engine, better transmission, better tires and lower curb weight. Really don’t see any reason to pick the Z over Supra.

[@SamCarLegion]

10k cheaper :) and low cost maintenance since it’s not a BMW

[@e7bk]

@@SamCarLegion but why you pay 60k$ for a 2 doors car if you don't have maintenance money??

[@Badgersito]

I still love the Z..😃 some AMS goodies and a tune and will be a lot faster

[@fatguyonalittlebike3336]

Not as fast as a Supra with a tune either tho 😂

[@pssita]

It will be interesting to see the stick vs stick of these 2 beasts.

[@charlesconnor1737]

BMW doesn’t make a stick…

[@diezelkg8134]

@@charlesconnor1737 yes they do look it up

[@Wantabreakfromtheads]

@@diezelkg8134 Toyota designed it

[@pompano_jedi172]

@@charlesconnor1737 M2, M3, and M4 have manual option

[@nicholasbajan3989]

@@charlesconnor1737 they do now!

[@driv3n758]

Wow, I anticipated a door to door race with a slight advantage to the supra. Respect to the supra for giving out 5 of 6 major ass kickings. with the 1 race being pretty close (but still a dub to the supra), which is more like what I expected. Looks like 10% more cost gets you 20-30% better performance. Pretty good ROI

[@avis1978]

It's not 10% my friend. It's more like 17% ( 60k ×10% it's 66k). Don't forget the tax. With the price difference you can change the tires, suspension, mufflers, tune it, and it will still be cheaper. I don't think that the performance gap is that big. Both are fast cars. I think the Z is more spacious and comfortable.

[@BrownSofaGamer]

@@avis1978 The performance gap is huge? lol, the Supra was going like the Z wasn’t even moving.

[@avis1978]

@@BrownSofaGamer come on men what do you mean huge? You know what huge mean? 2-3 sec to the 1/4 mile. On the toll they where = in manual mode. On the track the supra will be 2 sec faster which mean nothing in the real world everyday driving. 12k$$ difference this is huge. And like I've said take the money difference and spend it on the Z and it will make the supra look like 🤡. Look what the guy with the 340i did with his car on this channel. I don't think he spent more then 12k on it. Now he have a high 10 sec car.

[@hpickettz34]

It was 6 out 6 stop cappin.

[@shamoo9473]

@@avis1978 this just shows that nissan is done. The only saving grace they had, was an overhyped flop. $12k for a better performer along with better quality in the supra is worth it.

[@jamalgreenfield]

That Z got swept 🧹 good shit Supra.

[@pastorclaudia4054]

Bmw

[@123PSPs]

@@pastorclaudia4054 still a Supra

[@rivneo1]

In Manual Mode and in a roll the Z was ahead.

[@SO_L-GR]

@@pastorclaudia4054 🥱

[@halow4]

I think it comes down to gear ratio, low end torque and the 200lb weight advantage. The Z just cant quite match the supra. With better tires though and some weight shaving it could be almost neck n neck

[@onuohafamily]

Not when the supra makes 20 more hp and like 40 more torque at the wheels...

[@cedricmiller4370]

I like Nissan but it's not easy outperforming BMW technology when it comes to performance. Hopefully Nissan decides to put more power into the nismo version so it will have better outcome since they charging extra money higher trim level packages

[@chetfreeland1920]

Both cars look great I didn't love the supra at first but it's really grown on me

[@chetfreeland1920]

For what?

[@589supra]

used to drive a 370z , love it. but after having supra for 6 months now is just next level. Best bang for the buck - a total joy

[@WaheedKhan-mm3pw]

The Z had no chance of winning since you were also driving it.

[@backtodalobbybot2754]

Nothing unexpected the supra has more hp than the Z

[@sebastianbriones9597]

More?

[@mattyoz0]

@@sebastianbriones9597 yes more

[@backtodalobbybot2754]

@@sebastianbriones9597 yes bmw always undermine their hp the “382”hp is most likely the whp which means the crank hp is more like 420-430

[@Fr-zz5lm]

@@backtodalobbybot2754 emm no JAJAJAJA

[@2012summr]

@@Fr-zz5lm He's right, stock supras on 93 oct make 380+ to the wheels which would make it a 440+ horsepower car not sure what you disagree with.

[@marcusturner5291]

Nice review keep up the good work sam

[@Evolut10nX]

Would prefer the Z over that bmw any day, specifically in a manual variant though.

[@GoBrand0n]

Imagine the upcoming Supra with S58 Engine.. Let's be Honest the B58 is just a monster of an engine combination with ZF Transmission. The Nissan will never beat it from Zero to who knows what.

[@james-patrickpowers4926]

I respect the z and Supra very much and look at them equally. But they seem to have different driving ethos which is why I think it's odd to compare them. The Supra still retained its original recipe, rwd, inline six thats highly tunable and offers great driving dynamics. Disregard where Toyota sourced its parts for the Supra, it's still an engaging fun experience that holds true to its predecessors. Just because it's got German DNA doesn't make it a German car. Adding to the note of why I think it's odd to compare them is because they're both tuner cars, they were produced for us to take apart and do what we want with them. It shouldn't matter if one is faster than another in its stock form.

[@dewaynebattles]

If you buy one of these and leave it stock, you're either old or a female.

[@dnegel9546]

Supra is nothing like previous supras.

[@thebvandersnatch6975]

Yes it is...@@dnegel9546

[@onealc9278]

Is paddle shifting really faster than letting the car transmission change its own gears? I think paddle shifting is good when you want to hold a gear.

[@Dwilsonmusic145]

I don’t understand why’s he feels like he needs to do this. They program that transmission for the fastest performance possible whenever you floor it.

[@s7robe297]

The b58 is just too good man

[@AB-coyote]

The Z just needs to be learned. People serious about racing can manipulate it. For example people in 10 speed mustangs start the race in manual mode and once underway they switch to auto mode on the fly. That is the best way to get the fastest result from a roll in the Mustang. I’m betting the Z can do the same thing. Get some good rubber and hopefully reviews start turning around for the Z.

[@touayaaj84]

I’m just here to collect the tears from the Z fan boys who said the Z was a Supra killer.

[@GiotheGhreat]

The Z is sooo ugly. Idk what they were thinking when they designed that thing 😂😂

[@TurkeyWilliams]

The Z appears to be pretty underwhelming vs the Supra. The B58 is a beast and I think a pretty competent successor to the 2J

[@BabaYagaRacing]

Yupp

[@letdothisman1139]

no till you have to fix them

[@Mike604]

@@letdothisman1139 fix what? Mod for mod Supra kills Z

[@TheHybridQ50S]

Ehh wouldn’t call the Z underwhelming the Supra is just the overachiever, it does everything GREAT.

[@tyhyhh]

idk how its underwhelming its not that much slower and its 10 grand cheaper lol

[@madpistol]

Unfortunately, the results were completely as expected... the Supra wins. The B58 + ZF 8-speed is a monster combo.

[@a.m3687]

Now both BMW and Supra fanboys can say they've built a great car.

[@SamCarLegion]

At first they hated it for being a BMW, now they sell their livers for one.

[@YummyForMyTummy631]

Wow thanks I had my mind set on the Nissan x since it had twin turbo. Now I’m back in team Supra

[@trudownsouth8490]

The "Supra" cutting the 400 out the gate and that price gap just makes it more insulting.

[@travisfandrich4904]

Exactly the results to be expected from this race…

[@TronB58]

And yet, you watched the video and gave the click baiter the views he needed to make $$$.

[@SamCarLegion]

@@TronB58 like you did multiple times 😂😂

[@lucid523]

@@TronB58 what clickbait? Lmao there was no clickbait dumbass

[@bmo7784]

Renault really made a cute Z !

[@kylealton4347]

Finally a auto to auto comparison. But just extreme contact the world as far as tires go

[@sanfordmars4770]

Why you did not change the tires

[@iiAzT3Cii]

This was expected, but next time you roll race click the paddle to down shift a gear then step on it.

[@TronB58]

Exactly, because it'll shift for us but we'll get a better launch off it since we're in our powerband.

[@TheAltima94]

The BMW is just better engineered

[@Eugen-E]

More horsepower, less weight 🙂

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

My grandfather used to say …..you get what you PAY FOR …….😂 💰

[@amulia1]

The supra looks like it has a body kit on when its stock. Looks so nice.

[@9663mu]

Gotta love that BMW 6. Such a silky motor. Look the Z is nice and better va it’s predecessor but it’s not a huge improvement.

[@ThatOnedude374]

That transmission on the new Z/ Q60 really holds back the engine.

[@Some.Legend]

The transmissions are different, new Z has a 9 SPD transmission while the Q50/60 has a 7 SPD transmission.

[@ThatOnedude374]

@@Some.Legend ah yes my mistake still though it’s unfortunate thwy can make alot more power.

[@mholmes9262]

No surprises here, BMW's 382HP is obviously very conservative and the ZF8HP is just hands down a superior transmission. BTW - 50 KPH = 31 MPH, not 32. :-)

[@chrisylink]

Sam, when manufacturers release horsepower numbers, or claim a certain number, they're stating how much power the motor makes. Not the wheels. 400 hp to the wheels is roughly 460 hp at the flywheel. You shouldn't be putting brake hp on a stock car. It's not accurate. Keep up the great content 🍻

[@chuchlate]

nissan may have tuned their transmission for longevity over instead of the full performance capabilites. this is common in many automatic cars. you should have both vehicles performance tuned and see the result if is still same

[@xMANIIATIIKO]

I can’t wait to beat some Z Ont he streets with my Supra 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@supra_feelgood5159]

I own a 600hp mk5 so I'm ready for anyone with a z to race so we can see the outcome..obviously I want to race a tuned z

[@noelnarayan6135]

How do you go against the Turbo 370Z's?

[@raspop2587]

Sam how about sticking the same Michelline tyres on the Z and have another Round 2 of this race…

[@astonmarjo]

Yeah... The BMW/Supra has all the right stuff when it comes to new age technology. It's very quick with it's shifts and it just goes. As you know it beats cars with a lot more HP. Only because it gets out super quick.

[@ThePrestigeification]

VR30s once modded are impressive. Open deck design and stinky transmissions leave it at a pretty low ceiling but they’d be fun. B58 is already known to put down some real power without needing to crack the engine open, the transmission is a different story.

[@rivneo1]

AMS ran 9 second with a stock engine, stock transmission in the Z. I wouldnt consider that a low ceiling at all. A 9 seconds, 10 second 1/4 mile in the street is a super fast car for more than 90% of other cars.

[@flea4061]

Its a lot of factors. Weight, gearing, subpar traction control. The Z limits boost in 1 and 2. Tires and a tune would help. A good race would be manual on manual. The times are about the same there.

[@BILNGER]

Can you do is 350 f sport vs 330i xdrive race and even the new 2023 c 300

[@FLBoyCanScrap]

Everything is faster than the Z in it's price range.

[@dspicerj]

Always has been 😂😂😂

[@BabaYagaRacing]

Yupp

[@electrikoptik]

The Supra is the better car although I respect the Z for being 100% wholly built by Nissan.

[@dannyd7714]

Yeah with that Mercedes transmission, wholly built by Nissan 🤣

[@electrikoptik]

​@@dannyd7714 Don't be dumb. Every car manufacturer has suppliers. It's not like a car manufacturer is literally building a vehicle from scratch by themselves (mining the metal, building the glass for the windows etc). A vehicle can have transmission from ZF, brakes from brembo, shocks from bilstein etc. Mercedes did not aid Nissan in the development of the Z.

[@Kikoshow1991]

how are you greetings Very good race but it would be nice if you ran that Nissan Z against the Golf r

[@SamCarLegion]

Coming up

[@21bombsquad]

The Beamer crew gonna have a blast with this video this vr30 vs b58 war never gonna end😂

[@sametyldrm8837]

We missed affordable car races 😢

[@andrxito]

get a previous gen m240i and kick both of these to the curb. just fit them with an LSD of your preference and a 500$ fuel pump.

[@BabaYagaRacing]

B58 > VR30 Nothing new

[@Eugen-E]

No. A little more power and less weight doesn't make the B58 a better engine )))

[@BabaYagaRacing]

@@Eugen-E the B58 is a far superior motor in every way

[@Eugen-E]

@@BabaYagaRacing No, it's not. In no way it is superior than a lot of other engines, including VR30.

[@BabaYagaRacing]

@@Eugen-E the b58 is stronger in every way

[@Eugen-E]

@@BabaYagaRacing Have you tested both motors ? Stop talking BS. Simply because it has a closed-deck design doesn't make it "the best" or "the strongest" or other bs. There is nothing exciting about B58. It doesn't have rocket technology, etc.

[@HerrPoopschitz]

Im a die hard american car buyer, so have no biases other than I appreciate fast cars. Everything Ive seen on the new Supra impresses me...the Z is just ok.

[@user-ix3fd5vx5t]

best shift point for the z os 6.5 rbm or less for the stock..

[@Hiddentrax]

Supra is just FASTER

[@BabaYagaRacing]

Yupp

[@ftr911drvr]

Yeah that's definitely not just tires difference 😂😂, I can't imagine the people spending 20k to 30k over sticker for a Nissan Z...Porsche Money for this??? 😂😬. The Z makes the most sense at its base price , gives you plenty of room to customize it after but in this performance trim that is priced the same as the Supra it's not worth it, and at Cayman money with dealer markups you're outright insane

[@Cj_S2k]

Those b58s are no joke. My Supra put down 484whp and 535lbs ft. Just waiting on a drag pack to get the right amount of traction because the stock tires can't handle it any more 😅

[@KnockoutInvesting]

Too much power for a daily my guy.

[@marklinley815]

Even with a tune and other mods, and the MKV has the same mods, the results would be the same, but worse. The MKV and the B58 is here to stay.

[@joshuapounds7646]

Please Race the new Z with a Golf R

[@SamCarLegion]

Coming up

[@mqbr22]

@@SamCarLegion The Golf R will loose every roll haha

[@Cgee3]

@@mqbr22 I wouldn’t be so sure on that. The DSG in the R is much better at shifting compared to the Z.

[@mqbr22]

@@Cgee3 Yea but just not enough power man. My best trap was 109.66 mph on a colder day. The Z is like 112-113 mph I think