2024 Nissan Nismo Z Races Toyota GR Supra and Ford Mustang Mach 1. Drag and Roll Race.

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Sam CarLegion

Sam CarLegion

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@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
4:19 Mach 1 Specs: 5.0l V8 NA 480 BHP 420 Torque 6 Speed MT RWD CW 3,844 lbs 1,743 KG USD 63,000 - CDN 76,000 Apologies, the rendering missed this card. Cheers
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 2 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion 🙏
@sliknik1025
@sliknik1025 2 ай бұрын
2022-23 Mustangs with 5.0 engines had slightly lower power numbers, GT went from 460 to 450 and Mach 1 went from 480 to 470. Or was it for US only?
@5.0F150-j
@5.0F150-j 2 ай бұрын
​@@sliknik1025They were de rated in Canada too but it was just a carbon trap filter in the intake that dropped the HP. I have removed mine so it makes the full 480HP & 420 FT LB TQ
@UnhingedCanadian
@UnhingedCanadian Ай бұрын
Why would you race a manual mustang against cars with auto Transmission when the mustang comes with a 10 speed auto as well? Poor journalism not a real test of the cars. The 10 speed auto mustang is significantly faster than the manual mustang.
@FastTimes75
@FastTimes75 Ай бұрын
@@sliknik1025yes, but 2024 has 480 and 410 torque
@Mario_RX7
@Mario_RX7 2 ай бұрын
Whoever at Nissan put non premium fuel in the Nismo Z needs to get fired.
@saddist1Gtown
@saddist1Gtown 2 ай бұрын
If you believe this you are naive... They wanted a shoot out with the Supra and so signalled to Nissan to prepare the car for the second time. I bet it was put on a dyno and also had a program done for this... Premium fuel wouldn't just give such astounding performance..
@AlienCreatureThing
@AlienCreatureThing 2 ай бұрын
@@saddist1Gtowna $50k+ car with twin turbos should not be using anything other than premium fuel.
@johnnybegood2078
@johnnybegood2078 2 ай бұрын
@@saddist1Gtownyou are a 🤡
@Mario_RX7
@Mario_RX7 2 ай бұрын
@@saddist1Gtown lay off the conspiracy theories… obviously making you dumber.
@garytownsend9236
@garytownsend9236 2 ай бұрын
​@@saddist1Gtown oh but it can. When i bought my 04 GTO years ago, the dealership filled it up before i left with it. I took it to the drag strip 2 days later and ran a horrid 14.5 (granted it was 90 degrees and humid). I called the dealership the next day and asked what it was filled with and was told most likely what they have on site, which is 87. I babied it for a few days and filled with 93. Went back the following week and went 13.9.
@housbinpharteen7445
@housbinpharteen7445 2 ай бұрын
that supra is a beast
@gonzed11
@gonzed11 12 күн бұрын
3.9 vs 3.8 makes it a bigger beast then the nismo😅
@sunburn8640
@sunburn8640 2 ай бұрын
MACH 1 put up a damn good fight for being stick shift. That was super close. Car is damn fast…
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Tremec is a legend
@1slow5ohh
@1slow5ohh 2 ай бұрын
Guy can drive, I know him personally - can really slam gears!
@charlesturner5195
@charlesturner5195 2 ай бұрын
The 10spd would beat both
@ron2366
@ron2366 2 ай бұрын
@@charlesturner5195not the Supra probably really close though
@DEACONR6155
@DEACONR6155 2 ай бұрын
It's a pos ford...hush
@Soh90
@Soh90 Ай бұрын
Mustang driver is a proper fucking driver! Launches were proper, shifts were crisp. Good driving man.
@cocacola3269
@cocacola3269 2 ай бұрын
Finally, a decent driver in Mustang that can Shift Properly for Racing....😂😅
@waltscrossfiresrt6
@waltscrossfiresrt6 2 ай бұрын
And people still believe fuel octane don't make a difference thanks Sam for futher proof
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Genuinely the car felt like a donkey!! When I picked it up, it didn’t feel right, car felt like very off. The 93 woke up the car
@subnegro4946
@subnegro4946 2 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegionwhat was the octane prior?
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 2 ай бұрын
I feel that in my slow daily 😂
@courtney5796
@courtney5796 2 ай бұрын
for most cars it doesn't matter. Minimal gains for the price. But some cars just require it like the Niz to be what they should be. Edit That said, roll races are very deceptive and tricky. Pretty sure that Niz was 10 foot behind on kickdown lol
@Ahmed___9
@Ahmed___9 2 ай бұрын
Mostly it makes a different in turbocharged cars
@Fearless0813
@Fearless0813 2 ай бұрын
Owner of a 2016 Scat Pack Shaker, and a 2023 Hellcat Super Stock here. Gotta say I really like those Toyota Supra's, they look sharp and they are fast. And If I didn't have my beloved Challengers, I'd have either a Supra or a Mustang.
@TheCamper83
@TheCamper83 2 ай бұрын
Everybody knows that the 10 speed auto is the ticket if you're into drag racing the Mustang. The current top dog Mustang is the Dark Horse with the 10 speed and without the giant wheels on the performance pack. That setup will be most competitive with these cars on the strip.
@Jbzski
@Jbzski 2 ай бұрын
@@TheCamper83 doesn’t even need to be a dark horse. A Gen 3 10speed alone would give them the work.
@73reklaw
@73reklaw 2 ай бұрын
Let's see a 10spd compete sometimes
@Frogsplash27
@Frogsplash27 2 ай бұрын
@@JbzskiI know! That’s what I’m saying, if he actually wanted to, he could’ve got any automatic GT to race fairly
@Jbzski
@Jbzski 2 ай бұрын
@@Frogsplash27 this page doesn’t like 5.0’s🤣
@Zeonick1
@Zeonick1 Ай бұрын
The dark horse would annihilate these cars lol. Overkill.
@jonsimmons945
@jonsimmons945 2 ай бұрын
Take the Mustang performance lightly. The auto version is MUCH faster
@kaidoChess
@kaidoChess Ай бұрын
And more boring to drive
@SpartanKyuubi
@SpartanKyuubi Ай бұрын
@@kaidoChessfaster will awaits be more fun.
@kaidoChess
@kaidoChess Ай бұрын
@@SpartanKyuubi assuming you can’t drive stick
@SpartanKyuubi
@SpartanKyuubi Ай бұрын
@@kaidoChess Everyone knows how to drive stick. I haven’t owned a manual vehicle since I graduated high school in 2007.
@kaidoChess
@kaidoChess Ай бұрын
@@SpartanKyuubi .3 seconds in an auto is not enough to be more fun than a manual
@anw9485
@anw9485 2 ай бұрын
Another great video, Sam! I'm a S58 owner but have had B58 cars before and they're amazing. The B58 is easily the 2JZ of this generation.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@TonyStone3000
@TonyStone3000 2 ай бұрын
Much respect for the Mustang driver!!! His shifts were on point.
@returning2race574
@returning2race574 2 ай бұрын
I’m a huge ford fanboy but I do give flowers to other cars and the nismo & Supra are pieces of art.
@mayormsuthu1465
@mayormsuthu1465 2 ай бұрын
Supra is for me better than the other two.
@5.0F150-j
@5.0F150-j 2 ай бұрын
Thankyou for the invite Sam. It was definitely good too see the Z preform properly. Im happy that i can still keep up with it with the manual car. Although a ten speed would be faster from personal experience the fun factor isnt there with the A10 cars. Cant wait too see the other videos & cant wait for what im bringing next
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for joining us, and amazing shifts!
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 2 ай бұрын
Nice work not sure if you are the mach 1 owner 😂
@5.0F150-j
@5.0F150-j 2 ай бұрын
​@@thatr34monster49I am the owner thankyou.
@eamokearney
@eamokearney 2 ай бұрын
That Mach 1 sounds and looks absolutely beautiful 😍
@5.0F150-j
@5.0F150-j 2 ай бұрын
@@eamokearney Thankyou very much. It's my 3rd S550 mustang & I have 0 plans too get rid of it
@SupraDebt
@SupraDebt 2 ай бұрын
Best decision I ever made was selling my 2018 Mustang GT with the performance pack and getting a GR Supra, hands down the Supra is a better car except for space if you go on trips a lot. I hated the MT82 transmission in that car. I had zero issue driving friends Mustangs but my trans would hate to shift fast over 6300rpm just killing the experience. Ford rebuilt it, Mantic clutch MGW shifter SS braided clutch line Amsoil fluid helped some but still wasn't great. Supra is a great car that people pass over because it's a BMW. I don't regret it one bit though. Best car I've ever owned.
@BrianBeckman
@BrianBeckman 2 ай бұрын
I made a similar switch. Ironically, the MT82 never gave me trouble (after a clutch spring delete), but the GS6 in in the Supra will grind if rushed into second. Still, I agree that it's also the best car I've ever owned. Spec sheets and bench racing don't capture the experience behind the wheel.
@TheCOWBOYRANCHER
@TheCOWBOYRANCHER 2 ай бұрын
Should have bought a gt350 or gt500 instead, but nice choice.
@gtrance3567
@gtrance3567 2 ай бұрын
Shoulda got a Camaro ss1le! 😂. Jk
@SupraDebt
@SupraDebt 2 ай бұрын
@@gtrance3567 My boy had a 2018 SS 1LE, drove my Supra one time and sold it for a tunable 21 Supra. He was the one that even pushed me towards a Supra. I had a C8 on order. I loved the Transmisson in his 1LE, really wished my Mustang had that trans I maybe would've kept it.
@gtrance3567
@gtrance3567 2 ай бұрын
@@SupraDebttremec is solid. Tuneability is important though.
@dougpendleton1266
@dougpendleton1266 2 ай бұрын
Glad to see somebody that can really drive a stick!!!
@speeddemonRS3
@speeddemonRS3 2 ай бұрын
Props to the Mach 1 driver because he got the best possible acceleration times for the manual!
@joshuaenyart5570
@joshuaenyart5570 2 ай бұрын
I had the mach 1 and it was a great performer in every way!!! But i love little cars so that supra might be a next option!!!
@jerrydino1310
@jerrydino1310 2 ай бұрын
Damn you gotta love b58😂❤
@JXiong-zo8ig
@JXiong-zo8ig Ай бұрын
B58 with the ZF TRANS hands down one of the beat combinations ever
@epa316
@epa316 2 ай бұрын
Exhaust note: Mustang wins, hands down. Any argument is invalid.
@johnnybegood2078
@johnnybegood2078 2 ай бұрын
Too violent for my taste too obnoxious
@epa316
@epa316 2 ай бұрын
@@johnnybegood2078 That’s what I think about raspy 4 cylinders that sound like flatulent insects.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
@@epa316 yeah good thing the supra has a high revving screamer of an inline six which sounds incredible. Supra is the best sounding car here with an exhaust, then the mustang, then the Z right behind it. I've owned a SS 1LE so I do enjoy the v8 sound but the more complex inline six turbo sound is my favorite(what I have with my m340i)
@epa316
@epa316 2 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Still sounds terrible next to a V8.
@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk
@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk Ай бұрын
German v8s>
@lilnicky131
@lilnicky131 2 ай бұрын
Sam its so fun to watch this channel grow over the past couple years. Up to 223k subs now!
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@johnnybegood2078
@johnnybegood2078 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Foiiiii1
@Foiiiii1 2 ай бұрын
Everyone remember when the regular Z was called the Supra killer?
@CarlosPerdomo
@CarlosPerdomo 16 күн бұрын
Well, it's not a Supra... it's a BMW 😉😉
@Foiiiii1
@Foiiiii1 15 күн бұрын
@@CarlosPerdomo Wow I have never heard of that before, I am totally mind-blown.
@CarlosPerdomo
@CarlosPerdomo 14 күн бұрын
@@Foiiiii1 are you into cars?? 🤣
@ks-vq5er
@ks-vq5er 2 ай бұрын
No matter the result is, I just love the Nismo Z. It looks so good.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I love it
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
I love all three but love the nismo
@mauriciomorales8863
@mauriciomorales8863 2 ай бұрын
I’d take the Mustang without hesitation. Specially with a manual
@lukha225
@lukha225 2 ай бұрын
Me too. I would careless about straightline performance. The one that makes me smile, that's more important.
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 2 ай бұрын
Nismo Z is exactly what we want
@balmainattitude
@balmainattitude 2 ай бұрын
I was so happy seeing the Nismo Z produce better results!!! Thank God S did his due diligence and gave that car a fair chance.
@voodoodiecast
@voodoodiecast 2 ай бұрын
Everybody gangsta until a 10 spd mustang shows up. Talk about fair huh.
@jz7551
@jz7551 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@voodoodiecastalright but this is no anime characters fight 😅 chill
@twilightmedia8575
@twilightmedia8575 2 ай бұрын
Here is the real race
@madweazl
@madweazl 2 ай бұрын
Whoever is wheeling the Mustang is doing pretty damn good at the launch.
@MrR4ge89
@MrR4ge89 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for giving it a fair chance! Honesty means a lot👍🏾💪🏾💪🏾🙏🏾
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Of course!!
@petersautovlog
@petersautovlog 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video Sam, yep that B58 is such a monster, drove the Supra once, was very impressed.. Cant wait to drive the Nismo Z! Cheers from Orlando!
@TheHolyHandGrenade763
@TheHolyHandGrenade763 2 ай бұрын
That was a handling package Mach 1 w/ a 6-spd Tremec. Adding the handling pkg to the Mach 1 w/ the Tremec optimizes it more for a road course rather than drag racing. A more fair comparison to the Supra/Nismo Z would be to have a base Mach 1 (no handling pkg) with the 10-speed automatic. The 2-piece front & rear spoilers that are part of the handling pkg increases downforce but adds a lot of aerodynamic drag to the Mach 1, something which is more usefull on a high-speed road course but not on a drag strip. A base Mach 1 is cleaner aerodynamically and when coupled with a 10-speed auto would have had a better showing in this scenario.
@302Mustang13
@302Mustang13 2 ай бұрын
Those changes definitely would have made it a win for the Mach but it was still a strong performance for what it is. The BMW was quick because it's powerful with a performance automatic but much lighter.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
wrong. the aero mods with the handling pack only serve a negligible difference. It's only at races to the half mile where you would see a difference my friend. This is just how slow a mach 1 manual is- it having the 10 speed is what would make a significant difference of course. Most people preferred seeing the manual mustang for this video btw because they've seen the 10 speed drag raced so often. The people want the MT
@BearRaiderHB
@BearRaiderHB Ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Distance is not the issue. It's speed. Specs from Ford in the owners manual supplements for both the Mach 1 and GT500 indicate significant drag/downforce above 50mph. Both cars share the same rear aero - the same part number. The GT500 manual under Track Use states in no uncertain terms: "DO NOT USE" the Gurney flap for drag racing. Spec is nearly 240lbs of downforce at 120mph, right around the quarter mile speed for a 6spd Mach 1. BTW: C&D tested the manual and auto on the quarter at 12.6/115 vs. 12.3/113, respectively. Tremec is pretty darn close. Certainly not 'slow'.
@marklinley815
@marklinley815 2 ай бұрын
B58 is hard to beat in any platform for stock for stock. Even harder when tuned by Botti. 😮
@Jameskalu-b2t
@Jameskalu-b2t Ай бұрын
Botti turns are crazy bro 😂😂
@jordantabat4143
@jordantabat4143 2 ай бұрын
I would still buy the nizmo and the nissan heritage Z hands down. Thank you for u sharing this video. The Z has alot more history then most people know.
@carebox5932
@carebox5932 2 ай бұрын
No, on tracks both the Supra and the Z Nismo have set times on the Supra is faster on all.
@bobstarr
@bobstarr 2 ай бұрын
Go to Fastestlaps and learn that this is not true. Every car and every track on this site. Too much work to check all the tracks but at Lime Rock Park the nismo and supra were driven by the same driver and the supra won.
@johnnybegood2078
@johnnybegood2078 2 ай бұрын
No chance, I have seen supra end up on the wall at many tracks. Very squirmy
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
@@johnnybegood2078 the nissan z chassis is just poor and much inferior then the supra. You must be blind have you not watched any review between the Z and supra? savageese has the most in depth one and even spoke to the cheif engineers at nissan, the supra is far better track and street car it's a simple fact.
@4thechelonx
@4thechelonx 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@roboticvenom1935savageese are Nissan haters 😂 nothing they say is legit credible
@bfiremitch
@bfiremitch Ай бұрын
​@@johnnybegood2078yes chance. It's literally been shown by multiple channels doing comparisons. Putting a car into a wall is driver skill issue, not car issue.
@Emilthehun
@Emilthehun Ай бұрын
Sam has done it again!!! But forgot the camaro 😂. And whoever is driving that mustang really knows how to row! Good job guys!
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 2 ай бұрын
Great job retesting the Nissan Sam. I know that must have been a pain to need to go back out there but we all appreciate your dedication to getting the testing correct. However, I can’t help thinking these cars just aren’t quick for their price. Spending $60k+ and running 12s in the 1/4 mile just isn’t quick enough now when there are so many better options and some of them are even less.
@Vffr1
@Vffr1 2 ай бұрын
One of the best videos you've done. So much for wanting a Mach 1. I Tested about a month ago, found it to be lackluster (but also way too fast), ended up with a 2024 Elantra N which I'm more than happy. This my new track day/Auto Cross worrier. Triple
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you 🙏
@jimwallace4164
@jimwallace4164 2 ай бұрын
Perfectly structured video to show the frustration of the initial set of races Sam. No question, cars these days are such finely tuned computers that regulate the mechanical systems. Correct octane makes a huge difference. Nice to feel that 2-3 shift during rematch races in the Nismo feel like it did the first time. Good stuff. Sorry for the jerky drone footage there boys, it was mighty windy that day.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
You did amazing
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 2 ай бұрын
You did good, please keep using drones for more of the footage, a drone at the finish line with the camera pointed down to catch the close call finishes would be amazing. 👍
@mr.transporter7601
@mr.transporter7601 2 ай бұрын
Really good call on the fuel. Not only do you want to run premium, you want to run quality premium too. Seen dyno numbers low because people say they put premium, but it’s from a mom and pop gas station in the cut. That makes a small difference too.
@SuperArmus
@SuperArmus Ай бұрын
Not to brag but as a MK5 owner, I already knew the outcome of this video. Excellent drag video.
@BOOSTEDDUDE
@BOOSTEDDUDE 2 ай бұрын
Good call on the fuel Sam. That made a huge difference against the Mustang Mach1. The Supra continues to impress me! If I were in the market and had the $$$ I would likely be considering the Supra.
@bigjdm5460
@bigjdm5460 2 ай бұрын
Nissan failed when they couldn’t keep the weight under 3,450lbs
@3WayEnt
@3WayEnt Ай бұрын
i completely agree
@joshuaenyart5570
@joshuaenyart5570 2 ай бұрын
Mustang stats placard never made it in during the car description
@BearRaiderHB
@BearRaiderHB Ай бұрын
Fun to see these cars head to head. Couple things I think handicapped the Mach 1: 1) from about 10:00, couldn't tell for sure, but looked like some short shifts. Could maybe benefit from carrying more Rs, because 2nd and 3rd are nice long gears in the Tremec; 2) the car was not in drag race configuration. Gurney flap adds significant drag, and about 250lbs of downforce at speed, affecting both runs.
@07wrxtr1
@07wrxtr1 2 ай бұрын
Nice work!!! And historically the Z was never a straight line vehicle so it’s nice to see that it’s finally competitive.
@Barbwire710
@Barbwire710 2 ай бұрын
Really? It was always called Japanese muscle in my circles. It could never step on the toes of the GTR, so it never had to be the fastest thing out.
@07wrxtr1
@07wrxtr1 2 ай бұрын
@@Barbwire710 I think the Z "was" always the value proposition for fun with a balance more towards being just fast enough to annoy more powerful cars- but could smoke them around the corners... The new Z is now fast in a straight line - but everything is just a ton more competitive - however - I think the Z is still awesome if you just want something different on the road compared to the dime a dozen mustang / challenger / charger crowd... The new Z needs work - suspension, intake, downpipe/full exhaust, tune... and tires...
@mikeb3023
@mikeb3023 2 ай бұрын
I like the Supra and Z does look killer in the nismo. Can't go wrong with either imo
@kaidoChess
@kaidoChess Ай бұрын
Redoing the fuel bit was a huge + Great vifeo
@bigneutron77
@bigneutron77 2 ай бұрын
Supra for the win all day everyday
@keshlopez8598
@keshlopez8598 2 ай бұрын
Wow that Z with the premium stayed ahead of the stang!! What a machine!! Ohhhh hold up just seen the drag race now and the Z took it the wholee way!! Unreal!! Hella nice!! About time the z putting work nice
@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk
@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk Ай бұрын
Anyone who tells you it isn’t the better car simply knows nothing about cars period
@Matts000
@Matts000 Ай бұрын
It beat a manual stang, take that win with a grain of salt. Lol
@Matts000
@Matts000 Ай бұрын
@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk well considering the Mach 1 placed 12 spots higher on Throttle Houses leader board, I’d say it’s you that knows nothing. Not saying, just saying lol 🤷🏼‍♂️
@returning2race574
@returning2race574 2 ай бұрын
Love the content but just a suggestion. Most ppl can’t afford these cars so you should do some to see how they stack up against OG budget cars. Like q60s, Amg w204, c6s and etc
@Storyteller-do3sq
@Storyteller-do3sq Ай бұрын
I would love for someone to finally record a race between cars like this where the winner outperforms the others after completing at least 2 laps on a REAL Racetrack that has not just a straightaway, but winding curves, twists and sharp turns.
@skywalk3x
@skywalk3x 2 ай бұрын
Had a 240Z, 350Z, and 09 Nismo. Love the Z. Have a 2021 Supra and it’s a sweet car. Throttle house had the same three cars except the mustang had a track pack and the Supra beat them around the track. Sorry Sam the Supra isn’t just a drag car.
@mavricxx
@mavricxx 2 ай бұрын
So glad you used a Manual Mustang, so tired of boring Automatic Mustang videos!
@ethan8532
@ethan8532 2 ай бұрын
10 speed will always be faster in a drag race
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully every car was manual too, otherwise this is TRASH....
@taurussho86
@taurussho86 2 ай бұрын
Luckily you're too mentally inept to know what's faster in a drag race
@AWAKE_PA
@AWAKE_PA 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBb6prelude Paddle shifters on the Nismo = automatic. Had the Mach been a 10R80, it would have won.
@mayormsuthu1465
@mayormsuthu1465 2 ай бұрын
Manual gearboxes are extremely overly rated,and most manual lovers are wannabe enthusiasts which doesn't know much about driving skills. So don't you dare think that a car with a manual gearboxe makes you a better driver or a real man. It's really tiering hearing these comments it's boring
@joelperez9308
@joelperez9308 22 күн бұрын
I use to own a 93 s13 240sx coupe and loved it. I would still stick to the Nissan to this day.
@daneblack2593
@daneblack2593 Ай бұрын
I love this video you know what you were talking about with the gas I was amazing to me I'll be watching more of you
@aaronberg5708
@aaronberg5708 Ай бұрын
Never thought I'd see a Nissan z consistently smoke a mustang. And I love it
@BrettLegree
@BrettLegree Ай бұрын
Who has a Mustang and doesn't want to race with it?!? LAME.
@tafalicir1253
@tafalicir1253 2 ай бұрын
That Z nismo struggling because of the trash gearbox factory tune , u can tell just from the sound , definitely needs a TCU tune as soon as possible
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
that's because it's also a POOR transmission, it doesn't even come close to the ZF in the supra or even the 10 speed auto in the mustang. The z is a flawed vehicle when compared to the supra which is a shame because it's the only real competitor
@asianyangster916
@asianyangster916 2 ай бұрын
Have to admit, that bmw is fast. Thanks for making this right.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Glad you like it!
@joefurtek8837
@joefurtek8837 2 ай бұрын
I always enjoy the types of cars you compare together
@johnnybegood2078
@johnnybegood2078 2 ай бұрын
Superb video Sam! I appreciate you making it right and yes premium fuel makes a huge difference in a twin turbo car. 🎉
@fotoflorian
@fotoflorian 2 ай бұрын
Love the video! Can I suggest grabbing some CineSticks to help out with smoother drone video? I have it and although it takes a bit of practice, you can’t get smoother footage unless you stabilize further in post.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
So, in that case we had someone use them, but I don’t usually do that, i use follow mode which is way better. But good point there
@MrNismopro
@MrNismopro 2 ай бұрын
Man, that BMW is quick!
@302Mustang13
@302Mustang13 2 ай бұрын
Now that's a fact. Rebadged BMW.
@Investor_philips
@Investor_philips 2 ай бұрын
A rebadged bmw 10x better than that mustang ​@@302Mustang13
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
@@302Mustang13 yeah which is what makes it the best car there.
@302Mustang13
@302Mustang13 Ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 It'll be great until the warranty runs out.
@Investor_philips
@Investor_philips Ай бұрын
I would rather have the rebadged bmw over that shitstang​@@302Mustang13
@gsexrgixxabwoy2263
@gsexrgixxabwoy2263 2 ай бұрын
That thing is pushing close to 500 hp. BMW cheated on me 😭😭😭😭😭
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 2 ай бұрын
All cool mid level performance cars. Hoped a nismo would put up a little more of a fight but the B58 is king in this category.
@andrewthurman928
@andrewthurman928 2 ай бұрын
Love the videos….Supra!
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@whitemtl370
@whitemtl370 2 ай бұрын
Turns out that even a 2023 MT supra with 300tw tires is faster around a track than a nismo z with 200tw tires
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
only the automatic supra is, where do you see that a supra manual is faster then the nismo z??
@whitemtl370
@whitemtl370 2 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 many places. Including the car and driver lightening lap where the manual supra did a 2:55.6 with 300tw tires and the nismo z did a 2:56.2 with 200tw tires.
@Brian_195
@Brian_195 2 ай бұрын
They lucked out that the Mach 1 wasn’t a ten speed.
@XboxAlive
@XboxAlive 2 ай бұрын
I knew the result before the video rolled… 🎉 Love my #tuned #Supra
@petermeister7191
@petermeister7191 2 ай бұрын
So the new Nissan Z is slightly down on straightline performance compared to its competitors. In the first drag races against the Mach1, which is even manually shifted, the Z was behind on traction and the Mustang normally is not known for good traction. So, they need to do some homework at Nissan to further improve it´s performance. The Supra simply pulls away steadily. Guess, it´s underrated on power and delivers more than claimed, since the weight ratio of both cars is quite equal.
@habibmalik938
@habibmalik938 2 ай бұрын
Didnt you hear there was an issue with the car watch the whole video
@juggydizzle911
@juggydizzle911 2 ай бұрын
​@habibmalik938 the issue was that it's a nissan
@habibmalik938
@habibmalik938 Ай бұрын
@@juggydizzle911 go cry to your mama after losing
@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk
@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk Ай бұрын
@@juggydizzle911Nissan>ford
@garymcgowan4057
@garymcgowan4057 2 ай бұрын
I like the drone view of the races, keep that up. Then you can see the entire time what's going on between them.
@LaszloGaspar-s3x
@LaszloGaspar-s3x 2 ай бұрын
That b58 🫶🏻
@manuelpiston
@manuelpiston 2 ай бұрын
Yeah is trash
@ethan8532
@ethan8532 2 ай бұрын
lol nah
@restlessyouthproductions
@restlessyouthproductions 2 ай бұрын
The B58 is 430 hp and in a lighter chassis ...... 🤡🤡
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 2 ай бұрын
Gey BMW
@subnegro4946
@subnegro4946 2 ай бұрын
@@manuelpistonstop the hate 😂😂
@kevinhollenbeck7503
@kevinhollenbeck7503 4 сағат бұрын
Just curious, what is the elevation where these cars were tested? Because a forced induction car will not loose as much HP as a NA car at higher elevations.
@bman1668
@bman1668 2 ай бұрын
That nismo Z has been proven to be slower around track by numerous KZbinrs , Z is slower period , handles worse , heavy and slow . All around Supra is better just admit it.
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 2 ай бұрын
Nismo Z doesn’t need to prove anything- it’s the second sports car in their lineup. What’s Toyotas, RAV4 prime 😂. If it wasn’t for the BMW collab, Toyota would be making a 3 cylinder Supra pop pop pop pop Nissan is a true jdm carmaker. 😊
@bman1668
@bman1668 2 ай бұрын
@@thatr34monster49 Nissan is dead , jokes on you bud , failed company will be fazed out in next 5 years . GTR is not Supras competition buddy it Nissan Z always has been . Do you know why Supras exist? Because of Nissan Z before it was Datsun . Come back to this comment 5 years from now your Nissan won’t exist . GTR discontinued 2025
@Investor_philips
@Investor_philips 2 ай бұрын
​@@thatr34monster49bro you are so daft, the z is mediocre at best, the only meaningful sport car Nissan has ever produced is the GTR. Toyota has made better sport cars that Nissan dreams of having.
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 Ай бұрын
@@Investor_philips Toyota has made amazing sports cars..3 Cylinder GR Corolla 😂 those are fire 🔥…literally 😂
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 Ай бұрын
@@bman1668 if it wasn’t for BMW the Supra would be as fast as the RAV4 Prime 😂😂
@Rijos313
@Rijos313 2 ай бұрын
A 10r80 mustang gt wouldve been a closer race for the imports. Its about 300lbs lighter than the mach1 and the 10speed is lightning quick. Thats supra was moving though for sure.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
in what world is a 10r80 mustang gt with the first option pack 300LBS lighter then the manual mach 1. Why are you retarded this way- show me proof of the 300LB difference and I will paypal or zelle you $50 no BS
@Kai240i
@Kai240i 2 ай бұрын
I worked as a tech for a honda dealership for 12 years and it is very common for techs when doing PDI(pre-delivery inspection)to put 87 oct in a car that is calling for 91 or better. Some of my co-workers would put 87 oct in civic type R because sales department said to, just so they could save a bit of money. I never care what the sale department wanted, I always put the right fuel for what the car is calling for. I bet this is what happened to the Z on the 1st runs, tech put 87 in it.
@1Velez
@1Velez 2 ай бұрын
A tenth seconds of the difference between the Nismo and the supra. Wow. I own a GR Supra and a Q60. Thanks for the video.
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 2 ай бұрын
Octane on turbo cars Always makes a huge difference... Glad you persisted and reran the races...I remember driving a turbo SUV that ran killer fast hwen we rented it.. I cheaped out and used regular instead of super on the tank refill and that thing ran like a freakin dog afterwards.. couldnt believe the difference, like a different car!... Imagine the gap the supra would have done to the stang!
@imOJOmran
@imOJOmran 27 күн бұрын
Toyota going to discontinue this supra soon, you'all gone love it 10 years later, mark my words
@johnnyturbo8460
@johnnyturbo8460 Ай бұрын
And now you see why the folks with the Hyundai Elantra Ns mention "octane learn" so much. It makes a significant/noticeable performance difference. Please get a DCT VS manual 2024 Hyundai Elantra N race!!
@BrzBoyz831
@BrzBoyz831 2 ай бұрын
Nismo Z is like a Godzilla having a kid with the weaker monster 😅 its missing a leg lol
@carguy...
@carguy... 7 сағат бұрын
I had a 22 supra and a 22 mach 1, the thing with the supra is since its a bmw turbo, all I had to do was unlock the ecu and download a tune on my phone and it was a lil monster. The mach I would need to spend 15k to supercharge to beat it. The B58 is so dominant.
@Wickedgmc
@Wickedgmc 2 ай бұрын
If the M1 would have been the 10 speed. I think it would have been a much different outcome. Cheers 🍻
@ducka0f
@ducka0f 2 ай бұрын
i love his reaction @9:03.. you can clearly see his expressions just saying, i was right!! 😂👍
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
My gut was telling me the car was running like 🗑️ initially
@ducka0f
@ducka0f 2 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegionIt hit home when i saw your reaction man! Thanks for video and wish you the best 🙏
@anthonyjusino7431
@anthonyjusino7431 2 ай бұрын
hey sam your videos are one of the best I love success blessings I'm still waiting for the race of the manual Supra vs the manual Mustang dark horse I have the manual supra but I'm in Puerto Rico hahaha
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@anthonyjusino7431
@anthonyjusino7431 2 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Thanks you for make me happy with this Drags
@jasonscott425
@jasonscott425 Ай бұрын
I sure do love a non true side by side comparison. The only way to show true results would be to show similar drivetrains ie.. auto vs auto / manual vs manual or RWD vs RWD in a similar price range. Unfortunately to those folks who don’t know better out there. The car that would be the fastest on the street with a V8/auto trans wasn’t available guys. “My bad. Let’s compare a different version”. The Mach 1 was designed as a circuit track car. Not a drag car. Props to you guy who showed up to an auto fight with the manual. True digs and rows on your part. Ever thought of switching lanes or even switching drivers to see if the results are the same? The only way to have a true test is the law of averages. Maybe the air density was severely off for testing turbo cars or naturally aspirated cars. Or altitude comes into factor. Non of the runs showed a mph or kph for reference on the suggested track times. Not 1 consecutive full frame race. Way to many cut scenes. I honestly don’t know how these results were finagled out. I feel bad that this guy makes money off of people who don’t know better. Before you ask. 25 yrs+ drag racing all different makes and models of cars. Street and track.
@reynaldorivera743
@reynaldorivera743 2 ай бұрын
Enjoying this video Sam 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@danesimpson8180
@danesimpson8180 Ай бұрын
I would take the mustang over either of the other cars. You will have turbo issues in both Japanese cars. And did the mustang get premium fuel? Doesn't require it like the other cars.
@theblackfleet6867
@theblackfleet6867 25 күн бұрын
Was the Nizmo on sports mode?
@angel925100
@angel925100 2 ай бұрын
The Supra is an amazing car. Too bad I can’t say the same thing about the Z.
@lucassitanggang5154
@lucassitanggang5154 2 ай бұрын
Ford Mustang in this year 2024 released 3 types: GTD, Dark Horse, And Fast back. Please have a drag race
@dpajc056
@dpajc056 Ай бұрын
🤔 ive alwys been a fan of Nissan, despite being driven by people with credit score lower than the speed limit, and never been a mustang fan because of the way they drive (they make you crash into crowds), but the V8 is soooooo sweet and they've really stepped up the suspension. Sad to admit but in this entourage I'd put the Nissan last and the supra first, solely based on looks. Yes, im a superficial bastard i know 😂
@kyrinky
@kyrinky 2 ай бұрын
At the beginning of the video, you put a box label with the Supra, and the Nissan z, that made it very easy to compare specs, now why wouldn’t you have added it to the mustang to compare all three?!
@syedehtishambukhari499
@syedehtishambukhari499 2 ай бұрын
Very good review ❤
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@syedehtishambukhari499
@syedehtishambukhari499 2 ай бұрын
Welcom
@tepelkua
@tepelkua 2 ай бұрын
Nice video Sam thanks 😊
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@returning2race574
@returning2race574 2 ай бұрын
The Dark horse would have been perfect but I do understand sadly.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 2 ай бұрын
Tried so hard :( 2 guys have them but will not race
@Stangnation
@Stangnation Ай бұрын
He slapped a tune on this Nissan real quick 💻 🤣
@dom718293
@dom718293 2 ай бұрын
Yup, looks like about right for the nismo being 400lbs more
@supitk
@supitk 2 ай бұрын
Supra laughs in B58****
@diegomjangos4904
@diegomjangos4904 2 ай бұрын
Nismo tuned and Trans tune just to lose to 380whp 😂😂😂 vr duds
@original__gmebvy
@original__gmebvy 2 ай бұрын
The 9AT transmission in the Nismo Z has more clutch packs in it compared to the regular 9AT in the Sport and Performance Z. Where Nissan messed up is the hp gain, 20hp for almost $15k more than the Performance Z makes no sense. The Nismo Z for that price should have had at least 450hp, so that people could say that it would be a somewhat better value compared to the regular Z and justify the price difference. It’s good but they took it out the oven like 15 minutes too early. The cake is there but the taste is off. People say what they want about the GR Supra being a BMW underneath but Toyota knew what they were doing. The B58 is making more hp and a lot more torque than they say it is. On just the 2020 model, the GR Supra says it makes 335hp and 365 lb ft of torque, yet when car magazines dynoed the car, it was really making 345hp and 409 lb ft to the wheels. The ZF8 has a parasitic loss of 8%, so on the 2020 GR Supra, the crank hp is 372hp and torque is about 435 lb ft. For the 2021 and up models, parasitic losses remain the same at 8%. Power is listed as 382hp and 369 lb ft of torque. Realistically that’s not what it’s making, since the car is underrated by that same percentile, so it’s really making 413hp and 400 lb ft of torque at the wheels. Which means the actual crank hp and torque is 446hp and 433 lb ft of torque. That’s why every car magazine/blog/reviewer says the GR Supra feels way faster than it says on paper, cause it’s true. Which also means the Z Nismo is not only slower than the GR Supra, it’s also heavier too, and it’s not as powerful as it should be for the price that it’s selling at.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
@@original__gmebvy show proof of a 415WHP dyno for a new supra.
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