2023 POLARIS BOOST VR1 SUSPENSION TUNING! GET YOUR SLED TO HANDLE WITH ALL STOCK SUSPENSION!

[@leodurivage4411]

Thanks for the info. I'm a polaris tech from Canada eh we get to ride 4 to 5 month's of the year. The suspension work you do will help me make the customer happy when delivering the sled.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

love to hear that! if you ever have any questions please reach out!

[@herbertcheung7595]

Preloaded front stocks 3/8" on 2023 VR1, much better turning. No more "hinging." Thanks Jesse and Bruce Sr.!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

happy tp help!!!!

[@thomasserena6580]

Thanks guys! I snow checked a 23 VR 1 850. Immediately took out the heat exchanger at 200 miles. What you explained here is excellent information. Exactly what my sled was doing. Hopefully we meet on the "Hill" this year! Still owe you a beer from last year! My group will be at Timber view, February 13-19.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

how did you take out the heat exchanger? and appreciate the support and i will take you up on that beer!

[@thomasserena6580]

Unfortunately, someone threw cinder blocks on the trail.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

ughhhhhh

[@paulmollise1856]

Jesse, you guys are exactly where I ended up on my 21 VR1 with stock springs to get it as best I could with what’s from factory, I had none to compare too when I got my sled new, I weigh 205-210, I didn’t mess with the rear blocks because I like the wheelie factor but I get what your saying to keep the front end down, nice to see another viewpoint and coming up with same conclusion I did, great video ! 👍

[@JESSEJAMES322]

absolutely. Its very tough with stock components because the suspension can works o much better with the proper springs and valving but we know not everyone wants to mess with that so we wanted to get some type of stock set up for you guys

[@aaronloken2977]

Thanks again for your help yesterday, my 2023 XCR 850 corners sweet!!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

love to hear that!!

[@WheresHerb]

Thanks. I always look to get suspension information. I have the matryx 650XC 137 with the 3 settings on the shocks and I'll be experimenting on the set up that works for my style of riding.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

any questions let me know!

[@krankysledzz]

See the way I was taught was, if it teeters in middle you shorten limiter strap because you want the rails to be parallel to ground. Meaning when you lift back end up and then let down , all of the track and rails hit ground at same time. Instead of the front of track hitting first, hence the teeter totter. To me the way you guys are describing it . Your putting more front spring pressure on the skis to get the front of track off ground ( getting rid of teeter totter effort. )

[@weeks350]

That’s how I was taught too, the higher you get the front end the worse it’s going to corner, low center of gravity is your friend.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

so part of your theory is correct. you dont want the front of the track to hit first. the problem with these sleds is the fronts are so soft especially with no preload it doesnt matter where your limiter is the front end is going to collapse and the front of the track will be hitting the ground. we add preload to get that front end to stand up and keep the front of the track off the ground. does that make sense? and yes oulling limiter helps but when you do that you add more pressure to those front springh that cant even hold the sled up as it is and will just make the situation worse. if we had 100 pound or 125 pound springs up front, pulling the limiter then would be a decent idea

[@allenlarson5861]

Jesse, love the videos! I have a 22 XC850 going with the CA pro XCS skis, also ordered the heavy duty rear torsion bars, I am still lost on which front springs to get to bring them up to 100 or 120 lb springs. trying to put this thing on rails on the trails in Minnesota!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

are you asking if you need 100 or 120's? I am not 100% following along here!

[@tericksolutions6419]

Have you made any adjustments in the center shock? I went from the stock 4” carbide to a Stub Boy 6”. And now I’m getting a lot of ski lift in the corner. Non studded.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

biggest issue with inside ski lift is teh limiter strap being way too long. with it being so long it allows that inisde ski to come up. if it was tighter it would keep it planted!

[@chrisjackson3830]

Forgot to mention in the wrapping video- I’m digging the Purple with the Southside lettering. Nice work! I think a dark blue ski tip could look cool

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thank you! appreciate that!

[@doch6705]

Where should the coil spring be set at on the track suspension on a VR1 650. How much thread should be showing from the bottom as a good starting point.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

with no weight on the sled. loosen the adjuster collar until the spring becomes almost lose. then measure and ad 1/8 to 1/4 of preload. thats where we run ours

[@doch6705]

Thank you.

[@kevindechambeau7762]

Now these aluminum blocks they're only in the turbo correct? I'm wondering if people are going to want to put them in their XCRs

[@bowana9889]

They are in the xcr's. I have a 22 with them and the connecting bar to tie them together

[@dougpullman3699]

I don't think there the same ones that are on the 22 XCRs.

[@bowana9889]

@Doug Pullman they discuss this very thing on a video earlier this week. You can gather the details from it to confirm what type of blocks they are running

[@JESSEJAMES322]

they are not in the XCR. very different set up. these only came in the VR1 Boost this year. You can buy them and put them in an XCR though

[@mikeroberts8644]

@@JESSEJAMES322 good afternoon, my sled came in VR1 850 non turbo and I tore it all down to get shocks revalved. My dealer says that the 100# ski springs 7041576-458 will not work on the 24 VR1. I ordered them anyway. I’m just checking with you as that’s the number you put on the video.

[@nealwallace3101]

I have a ‘22 XC 850. My sled felt soft and was pushing in turns, but stayed flat. I put on a pair of C&A pro skis. I added some preload to my front springs. I turned my torsion springs to high along with some preload to my middle shock spring. Now I turn, but I feel like I have a little too much ski pressure. I also gained some darting. Where do I go from here? More preload on my middle shock? Will that lighten my ski pressure?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

yea you can try preload in the middle shock. you made a bunch of changes so try one at a time now going backwards and see what everything does

[@nealwallace3101]

@@JESSEJAMES322 Thanks. I sort of felt like I did too much, but I was bottoming in the whoops as well. The changes I made were positive. Now I just need to get rid of the darting.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

Check toe. Most likely it’s out of whack

[@nealwallace3101]

@@JESSEJAMES322 You were correct. My skis were aligned straight. I adjusted to the correct specs in my manual. The test will come this weekend when I hit the trails. Hopefully that takes care of it. Thanks for the help. I really like you content.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

You should be all set then! Thanks for following along. Let me know

[@rickouellette5395]

Why no mention of setting sag per rider weight? Thanks

[@JESSEJAMES322]

we dont concentrate a ton on sag. We go based of rider weight and what we know works spring wise. you can get proper sag with springs that are way too soft for that riders weight. just not something we really get into

[@SwiftJonny]

This is great! Please do a Switchback Assault!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thank you! Assault is on the list. i just dont have an assault so ill have to find one!

[@nateruh3698]

great video.great info thanks

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thanks!

[@rixtergoat]

Great video as always, would this be suggested on a non boost also? I do have the HD springs, not installed yet, and am 250# with gear.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

yes this will be the same for them. unfortuantely what really helped this was the coupler blocks but the non boost does not have these, the HD springs will help big time

[@Cwkipper]

Please do a video on just heavy duty torsion and stock everything else.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

next on thee list

[@BruceMacAulay]

@@JESSEJAMES322 where can i find your video re the HD torsion spring & also hopefully the RRSS adjustments? THANKS from Canada!!

[@mikemoffatt6278]

Last year I had problems with my new 650 fouling plugs but no check engine light came on,have u heard of any problems

[@JESSEJAMES322]

BR9EYA plugs seem to help a bunch

[@erikgullickson3590]

Great video! I have a 23' VR1 w/ a 100 miles and toasted the motor. Polaris has been excellent to work with. Please help me with my set up. I weight 175lbs, ride trails in MN so turning is critical. What should I do.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

i would do exactly what we said in this video!

[@russgoos4628]

Hey Jesse, suspension newbie question here... You refer to the rear coupler blocks - are those what the manual calls "rear rear scissor stop (RRSS)"? Thanks!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

yes!

[@rickouellette5395]

At 160 lbs I am considering trying the 100 lb front springs on vr1, would this require a shock re valve to match?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

definitely recommend the 100 lbs springs. That will not need a re-valve for the fronts. we run 1/2 inch preload in the 100 lb springs

[@remistrailcamvideos6306]

Jesse - Tnx again for another great vid. Do you think the sweet spot on the front preload is because of the extra approx 20# Bruce mentioned or is that setup a decent for non-turbo VR1’s too?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

this will be a good setup for them as well!

[@Nickwheelies]

If I add pre load to the front springs that gets rid of the darty feeling at lower speeds? Thanks boss 🤙🏻

[@JESSEJAMES322]

darting is not caused by that. has more to do with the ski set up then anything

[@gregbodor3711]

Great tips!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

we are trying. with stock suspension its a fine line

[@donknicker8110]

Which clickers were you working with on the front high or low?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

these only have one clicker on the VR1's

[@carli3337]

How do you like the boost? My assault boost is supposed to ship this week. 🤞🏻 Will be a little upgrade from my old 72 colt 295 ss that was my dad’s. I will have know idea how to set up shocks on my new sled . Great videos!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

id say thats an upgrade! congrats!

[@jimytherrien4377]

i have a 2023 xcr 137...i weigh 180 lbs what do you suggest for clickers front and rear?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

start 3 clicks in from all the way soft and go from there. put the max amount of preload in the front spings. that helps a bunch

[@Jbb15777]

Would I follow these same adjustments being a 150lb rider?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

probably wouldnt have to go as aggresive on clickers and on the couplder block. i would still recommend the 1/2 in preloa don the ski springs. soft or medium setting on the rear torsion spring and try it!

[@Jbb15777]

Great thanks

[@JESSEJAMES322]

Have you get entered in the channel giveaway? you could win a set of C&A skis, Woodys carbides, Woodys studs, Rox Speed FX hand guards and a $200 gift card to Southside!! anything purchased off 322threads.com gets you entered!

[@randynell1144]

Wish you owned an Skidoo 850 XRS 😋 Great video as always!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

ahhhh i know im sorry! appreciate you watching and support though!

[@larrydew1517]

Hey there, sorry this is off topic but I purchased the punch aux lights and they don't work. I checked the headlight fuse and it's ok. It's plug and play so hard to beleave I screwed it up..I checked the LED lights and they work. I called Polaris and they sent me out another kit so I tried the new wire harness and it doesn't work also. Desperate to get these working!! Thanks!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

you do have them plugged into teh 12V plug under the hood right? in our video we made a mistake and didnt show that you had to plug the harness into teh 12V supply on the bottom side of the hood

[@larrydew1517]

@@JESSEJAMES322 Yes , I have it plugged in correctly. I found one of the pins had backed out for the 12v connector. Once I reseated the pin and reconnected it was fine. Thanks!

[@justinfranks2103]

Great video suspension tuning is very complicated and you guys do a great job. In my opinion anyone 200 pounds or more should get an XCR I’m sure Polaris will have a boosted XCR next year.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

that you. and not r100% the case. we will get these to work better then an XCR. all suspension needs work. even the stock XCR suspension needs work as you saw last year with my XCR.

[@justinfranks2103]

@@JESSEJAMES322 Definitely agree but I feel for the average rider the stock XCR is better for most people that don’t want to do springs or valving most of us weigh 200 pounds or more and ride rough trails. Or pick the sled you want and bring it to Bruce or someone to re-valve.

[@WheresHerb]

Tug hill?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

massechusets

[@sleddheadxp800r]

You guys riding ice in mass already?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

this was last week. were good conditions

[@sleddheadxp800r]

@@JESSEJAMES322 i have about 500 miles on this season so far. All in woodford.

[@sleepybrew]

running the blocks on 4 will kill your holeshot

[@JESSEJAMES322]

we are not drag racing

[@sleepybrew]

@@JESSEJAMES322 more to it than drag racing. corner to corner will suffer as well with all that spinning. plus lacking the ability to get the front end up

[@JESSEJAMES322]

you also cant turn when your skis are off the ground. we are setting these sleds up to handle bumps and turn. if we lose some traction so be it