2023 Tesla Model Y RWD ( LFP ) vs 2023 Y Long Range Winter Supercharging test

[@Kareem-cx4fi]

Not familiar with the LFP model y in the USA, but we have the model 3 LFP here and it has some of Teslas best charging curves currently. That thing is road trip moster because it can maintain higher charging speeds deeper in the pack than the other chemistries and its so efficient that you get a lot of miles in a 15-20 minutes to continue your trip. More than what some would think looking at the "specs" only numbers.

[@voldar70]

Nice test. It’s worth to mention though, the LFP has a 60 kWh battery, the LR has a 82 kWh battery. The difference in charging times is 3 mins or 5% while the difference between the battery capacities is 27%.

[@Twin.motors]

Correct but the LR uses over 10% more energy at all times so that difference is not as substantial as one would think

[@voldar70]

@@Twin.motors That's definitely true. At the same time, although it doesn't look like much, 50 km more range (as you shown in 140 km/h test) in cold weather does make a difference in long trip. It can save a stop to charge over a 800 km trip.

[@yorkschumann5126]

You should check whether you have a CATL or BYD blade LFP battery That makes a lot of difference. Check your RWD VIN digit 7 and 8.

[@diy_etc]

He mentioned the RWD is from China so it's a CATL

[@stefansorensen1218]

Major and major differences. Not really. The BYD blade is definitely faster but it is not night and day faster. Just Google the BYD plade Charge curve vs CATL for Tesla. And you see

[@Twin.motors]

The RWD is definitely from China as it was built in June 2023. "FS" for the 7 and 8 digit in my VIN

[@yorkschumann5126]

The curves tell BYD is faster and holds the high kWh for longer. But that's not all. In the very cold weather where I live shows huge difference. When it was -20 to -25c, the BYD LFP was 80% efficiency whereas CATL (both NMC and LFP) show 50-60% efficiency.

[@Twin.motors]

@@yorkschumann5126 I will try to get a BYD Tesla and test all 3 of them. They're quite rare though as they recently came out

[@diy_etc]

Are you actually sure the LR is from Germany? They both seem to have ambient lighting ?? I thought that is not available in the german MY? Or is that something you installed afterwards yourself?

[@Twin.motors]

It's an aftermarket "mod". You just plug it into the USB port

[@MathiasBrandin]

@@Twin.motorsthank you for a good video.. It would be nice if you will share a link to the aftermarket ambient light that you have install in the cars.

[@Twin.motors]

@@MathiasBrandin of course not a problem 😁 Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! RON66.70 | For Tesla Model 3 Y S X 2in1 Interior LED Ambient Lights USB APP Control Remote Universal Acrylic Symphony RGB Atmosphere Lamp a.aliexpress.com/_EzjAZ0Z

[@therandomtester9561]

Nice test 😀 Please learn difference of kW and kWh. kW charging speed, kWh capacity..

[@andrejwalter8968]

looks like you dont know difference betwen kwh and kw. When it is kw you use kwh and vise versa.

[@Azsmodaen]

Nice video. I wanted LFP, but things were against it, because I found LR inventory car with almost same price as LFP was. So it was easy decision. These videos prove, that LFP would not been bad decision.

[@MrNefaria]

I have a Model Y SR from Germany, so spoiler alert: with a preconditioned battery it takes exactly one episode of „Modern Family“ to get from 23 to 98% SoC 😉

[@Twin.motors]

We will redo the test soon with both cars preconditioned properly to see how the results differ 😊

[@sokre988]

Taking into account that you charge from 0 to 80% the same time like from 80 to 100% .. you could decrease your charging time by more then half with just charging from 20 to 80%. 😉

[@MrNefaria]

I know, thx! Just didn’t want to interrupt the episode that we were watching 🙈@@sokre988

[@renwra1384]

​​@@sokre988 but then he hasn't finished the episode 😉

[@StreamlineSRG]

Nice test. Interesting how much energy both cars took in kwh?

[@rakeshgopidi4066]

@Twin Motors Thanks for the great videos, i use SR RWD with BYD batter (Giga grünheide) if we charge to 100% all seasons will the battery on long term impacts ?

[@Twin.motors]

@@rakeshgopidi4066 for LFP it's recommended you charge to 100%. I've kept mine at 100% since day one, my brother with his dual motor LR does the same. In fact we've been driving EVs for 5 years and we charge them to 100% overnight all the time, I am not a fan of the " charge to 80%" mentality.

[@michiel2797]

Thanks guys. Interesting comparisons. I have an LFP Y. Guess I made the right choice. Quick question. Which interior LED mod did you use? Mange tak og hilsen 😊

[@adetheteslaguy]

Are the battery capacities not different on the RW and LR?

[@t.d.5804]

They are, 78Kwh for the LR, 60kWh for the CATL LFP and 58kWh for the BYD LFP (there are 2 types of LFPs in the Y SR). But the RWD uses less energy, the range diff is 50km or so irl

[@evbase-official]

Nice video .can we help u to create a new experience video of Tesla accessories for ur followers ？

[@Twin.motors]

Hey, sure thing, any help is welcome 😊

[@GMan5451]

Good video. But I wonder why the content creators always doing this test without the preconditioning when Tesla advises to precondition. I would like to see this test down when it's conducted the right way to see the difference. It also teaches the importance of preconditioning.

[@Twin.motors]

We will do that as well. But I wanted to see the "cold" results in case you wanted to go on a unplanned trip all of a sudden.

[@whynot5852]

Thanks for the Information from Germany 🇩🇪👍😁

[@lucasfunkt]

Looking forward to your summer videos for this and the range. Is it warm enough where you are yet? I think as long as it's over around 18 degrees C it would be good to test.

[@switchtoelectric]

Nice video 🎉🎉🎉 thanks for sharing 😊

[@darcyk63]

The results are not accurate, how much energy was installed into the packs, the LR took a bit longer but how much more energy went in?

[@canadianrcpilot9048]

Why would you NOT precondition ? Is this based on a worst case scenario ? Even Tesla strongly recommends precondition on route to a super charger. I live in Canada 🇨🇦 we get some pretty good winters and cold temps. I charge my 2022 Model 3 Dual Motor Long Range always by preconditioning - never any issues. Soon taking ownership of a 2023 Model Y - Rear Drive (LFP). Will put some videos up and comparisons when Winter season approaches this year - planning on a weekly Blog - through the year … cheers

[@Twin.motors]

You can't always time your charges. Sometimes an impromptu drive happens and you need to charge, something that I experienced multiple times so far

[@patrice169]

tres interessant , c'est dommage, il aurait fallu indiquer pour information : les KM affichés à 100% sur chaque voiture. chargeur V2 ou pas ? (limité à 150 kw)

[@prequel1592]

m8 u need to tell that LR = like 75 KWH and SR = like 58KWH. the LFP charged way less. (still good though, m3MIC lfp driver here)

[@Twin.motors]

That's correct but the LR uses quite a bit more energy so it's not a direct 20% improvement. Around 10% according to our tests so far. So even if the LR accumulates more energy while supercharging, it doesn't translate to an equivalent range increase.

[@marcoliver1130]

The SR has an EPA of 415km and the LR about 530km, if you charge both to 100% the LR can go further which means you do not have to stop as often…

[@Twin.motors]

We're working on another video about this but the reality is unfortunately more like a 30 mile difference. Nowhere near the 100km difference, 50km max ( 30 miles or less )

[@marcoliver1130]

@@Twin.motors Björn Nyland tested the range, even the LR with the 70KW net battery came 80km further at the same temperature than the SR. The current LR has 76KWh net, so 100km should be realistic at 120km/h…

[@Twin.motors]

@@marcoliver1130 in our tests ( highway only at 130km/h and 2c outside temp ) the difference was 50km in range. Even the 1000km Bjorn test shows only a 10 minute difference between the Dual motor and RWD. ( Rwd was tested at a much lower temperature too )

[@marcoliver1130]

@@Twin.motors which LR did you use, 70KWh or 76KWh, 19“ wheels with wheel caps?

[@Twin.motors]

@@marcoliver1130 both had the same wheels, tires and aero caps, same psi and temp inside. The LR is the 76kw ( 2023 )

[@RemoteSpeed007]

No one I know charges to 100% at a supercharger for trips, most would not go above 80%. Would be good to see how they compare to 70-80%

[@Twin.motors]

I have a kid, many of these superchargers are at malls, I've charged to 100% many times ok long trips as my family wasn't ready to leave anyway. It's interesting to see how they compare anyway

[@RemoteSpeed007]

@@Twin.motors To be clear, all tests are welcome and good to have, just that in most cases when doing trips you can't stop that long and at busy superchargers they don't let you charge over 80%. Adding also degradation on NMC batteries when going over 80%.

[@michachojnowski9004]

If You do test like this , You should show service mode screen to show us temperature of HV battery on bought cars. If I don't see this parameter this battle is pointless.

[@Twin.motors]

We will do that next time but the test is as accurate as possible since both cars are parked beside each other and we drove them to the supercharger at the same time. So while I can't show you the temps, it won't get more equal than this

[@michachojnowski9004]

@@Twin.motors You can show it when You goes to service mode. And then everything will be clear . And You should mention if any owner of EV won't to have good speed on charging spot should prepare battery for fast charging. On Tesla You do this like set navigation to charging station where You will be charge.

[@bsktheo89]

Nice video. From where do you have the ambient light? Any link? Thanks

[@Twin.motors]

Thanks 😊 This is the ambient lighting kit I got. Super easy to install Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! RON63.17 5%OFF | For Tesla Model 3 Y S X 2in1 Interior LED Ambient Lights USB APP Control Remote Universal Acrylic Symphony RGB Atmosphere Lamp a.aliexpress.com/_EyUmtOV

[@bsktheo89]

@@Twin.motors Interesting! It will afect the warranty?

[@jaapboode2719]

At a stop sign you have to stop. Or is that different in your country?

[@Twin.motors]

Are you referring to when we got to the supercharger ? It's a store parking lot, not a "road" road. But we obviously do check before we drive in such situations

[@SylwesterPietrzyk]

Interesting test, thank you. Which LFP battery was in RWD? Seems like a newer BYD Blade LFP battery which is now fitted in RWD version (sadly not always) performs much better in cold temperature and charging at max speed is flat up until about 40-50%(!) - this is contrary to older CATL battery.

[@Twin.motors]

It's the CATL battery on the Model Y rwd