2023 Triumph Tiger GT Oil Leak | From the Oiler Filler Cap

[@LexGrossmansDog]

Not a great advert for Mommas. Glad you figured it out.

[@thehexter1]

F’ing Triumph! 😆 Good fix, Craig.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Lol...indeed!

[@hrmacdonald4471]

Not really impressed with the dealer response to the problem, but good on you for finding out the leak cause and fixing it yourself. Let's just say, Triumph owes you one :)

[@mauriziozanni4161]

Dealers are basically useless nowadays...hats off to your determination!

[@just.my.2cents]

Thx for sharing! Sad to see top dollar bikes getting poor quality built & maintenance (from dealer). I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater but this is ridiculous. I'll stick with the Honda's & Yamaha's of this world. My 2¢ & Happy to be a subscriber.

[@juliobarranco9850]

Have the same issue with my new Tiger 850 Sport, only has about 300 miles in the odometer so it hasn't gone into its first service. Also suspected that the o-ring is not the correct one because the fit was not tight as in other bikes I had. Will follow your advice and avoid forcing the stealership to actually do some diagnostic work and getting frustrated in the process. Thanks a lot for taking the time and effort to do this and make a video about it! Safe riding!

[@mutestain]

Good deal it was an easy to DIY fix problem the dealer ignored. Sheet dealer service hope you don't have to deal with them again. Make sure you use a good quality o ring and not the cheap china ones, They are as weak and degrade as quick as the dealer you visited. Thanks for the videos on your 2023. I am still on the fence on a new one or keep the older Tiger. Safe travels and thank again.

[@cemilcelik1844]

Thank you for basic solution and perfect english.

[@Marchautowerks]

My street triple rs does this as well, going to give this a try!

[@Vlad_Ivantsov]

Thanks a lot! It’s a great solution!

[@thegarthtaylor]

same here.. thank you for the video :D

[@DimitrisAxarlis]

Same problem here! Thanks for the provided solution. I'm taking my tiger to the dealer next week for the 6.000km service and see if they're aware of the problem. Safe Riding!

[@snowcatxx87]

Yup, have the same problem on mine. Noticed it riding off road; the dust sticks to this area like crazy.

[@ScragNath]

Cheers Mate, will look out for this on my new Tiger.

[@mahaasakthi7095]

Thank you for your information.... I was facing the same issue. 👍🏻

[@simonbolitho7819]

Thanks for this vid. Had the same leak on my Tiger Rally Explorer with oil over the right side by the filler and round about . Only done 200 miles. I will clean and check thanks to your info. Cheers Simon B.

[@johnsini4579]

I'm glad you were able to fix the problem easily. If you took it back to MOM's for that fix, I would be very upset as it does not appear as though they gave your bike any attention and you have been a loyal customer and have promoted them in previous videos. Of course this sometimes comes down to an individual mechanic as this did not appear to be a difficult problem to solve. Any, I'm glad your up and running again with hopes of many miles trouble free. Love your videos 👍

[@foxcharlieromeo9071]

Thanks for the advise I will check on my rally pro✌️

[@regulatorg573]

Thank you for the information! I’m having the same issue in my 23 GT Pro. Otherwise love the bike! Cheers!

[@RideFree317]

Same got a 2023 Gt pro ,leaks a little around the cap .might have to try his fix

[@hellkath]

I’m having this exact problem! Thanks to you, I’ll go get s new o-ring first thing tomorrow! Thanks so much!!

[@kevinbrennan2004]

Good one. I'll keep an eye on mine👓

[@mikemills5144]

Good stuff, thanks Craig, I will be on the lookout for that. Sure does come down to a good mechanic not assuming everything is the way it should be.

[@SR-dh1vj]

You know, if I was a salesman; and this just how I am, I would be educating myself and researching issue folks have with the bike or any product I was selling. I mean how many times have you walked into a showroom of any type and the salesmen are playing on their phones. This is great info to have and makes you to the customer you know about the product. You tell your customer listen, if this starts leaking a little after you buy it, this O-ring will fix it. Heck, if it is only .50 O-ring bring me the receipt and I'll pay you out of my pocket. I guess going the extra mile is a lost art. Great info.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

The sales folks and the mechanics rely on the manufactures for "service bulletins." If they don't get any they are often in the dark, until it happens. I get the mechanic thinking it was residual oil, I did the same when it first happened, but they should have listened to me when I said it was leaking. I have made the service folks and my sales person aware of the issue, so hopefully they will handle it differently the next time it shows up.

[@juliobarranco9850]

Glad to hear that you have a proactive attitude towards your job. These little things make for a great customer experience that creates trust and that produces recommendations that eventually turns into more business... But most people just want a quick buck and do the less possible.

[@inthesupernovashadow]

I have a ‘22 Tiger 900 Rally Pro. I have a leak over on a bolt in that area. Very very slow leak. Nothing major, just annoying. I’ll be swapping out this filler cap o-ring just in case it’s contributing in any way! Thanks for making the vid!

[@toby7504]

A good heads up video sir.

[@brunocardinale2798]

Thank, same thing happens to mine and they already changed the o-ring, but still happens, so I’m going to try this

[@stephenromano1906]

Thank you for sharing this simple fix! As long as Triumph has the opportunity to view this video they will appreciate your simple fix as well. Saves them money, time, helps address quality control and overall brand image.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

I hope so, that is why I made it

[@motorbikesgary]

Saw the video header and thought perhaps frying pan/fire, as in BMW/Triumph, but glad it's something so simple. Happy trails.

[@shawnfloyd6542]

Word !

[@JoseLopez-jj5te]

Thank you! Same problem with a brand new Trident.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Glad it helped

[@hjmoto]

I have been looking and doing research on adventure bikes too see what would be the best option. Glad you found a solution. My wife and I had a 20' Yamaha MT-10 that I tried to make it a sport tourer. But the gas mileage was bad and it wasn't all that comfortable after so long in the saddle. So I sold it and bought a new motocross bike instead because I missed racing. But After getting back into it again after 22yrs, it's harder than I remembered it being due to me being 54yrs old. LOL! Now I miss riding a street bike with my wife. I demoed a 22' BMW 1250 GSA and was disappointed in the acceleration. Now I'm looking at the Tiger 1200 GT Explorer. Hoping to get into that next year sometime. Nice to see someone putting videos like this to let potential buyers of the bike of what to look for or expect.

[@LRHKEV]

Mine was exactly the same, dealer changed O ring but made no difference, I've done your mod of 18x4 seal, you can actually feel the seal compress, simple but sorts it. Thank you

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Glad it helped. Mine has not leaked since I changed the gasket. No other issue, so far.

[@edwinchoo1511]

Same issue here. Will be bringing it in soon.

[@richardsassone1423]

Had the same issue on my 2013 Triumph Trophy. ( The one and only issue) Planning on purchasing a Tiger this Spring.

[@BlazinBlades]

Darn those condescending p…s I just don’t trust any bike not out of Japan anymore. I must admit Royal Enfields are peaking my curiosity with their simplicity and honest new-retro bikes. Thank you Craig 🍻🍻

[@DualsportChic]

Stymies me why Triumph dealer did such a poor job of assessing your issue, basically dismissing your assessment as a customer - bad on them. Glad you found a fix.

[@edpiii7695]

Helpful video. I live in your area and have purchased several bikes from them. All from the same sales person as you. He is terrific. Actually have a 21 tiger rally pro. Great bike. My experience with service department at that dealer has been checkered. Sign of the times ? Or is it an ownership focus on sales instead of service ? Disappointing at $135 per hour with such an expensive bike on such a simple matter.

[@stephencarbajal5657]

Wow glad I looked into this i own a street triple 765 and mine is doing the same? I actually thought it was possible my crankcase was over filled at i did the oil change even though I confirmed it wasn't but ended up letting out some of the oil and it still was leaking at the filler cap. I'm going to check to see if my o ring fits correctly but it seems this is a triumph issue so I'm sure going to 18x4 ring will correct it? Thanks for the video🍻

[@wglennhowells]

Good to know, just recently got a 2023 1200 explorer, I’ll keep an eye out for this.

[@milesdavis8665]

I've noticed with all of the tiger 1200s irs usually something small that goes wrong. Best bike in the triumph lineup

[@scotthollis7282]

You'd think with all the money you've spent there over the years, the dealer would explore more options that might include you in the process of finding a solution. I had one problem with them way back when I had my Springfield, and they actually sent a tech down to my place to rectify the problem, which made things so much easier.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

I think this is one of those things to that is so minor it is easy to overlook. If it had been a bigger issue they would have addressed it. They always have in the past.

[@daveo9844]

I’ve fixed things like this on other new bikes. Just a pain going back to the dealers 🙄🍻

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Yes, they are always very busy. I appreciate them being there when I really need them.

[@SteelHorseman]

It’s always something.

[@mdf1951]

I have found out that so many times you know more than the dealership. Those mechanics get paid by the flat rate, and usually wont take the time to look into depth of a problem.

[@painsrides]

Send this to MOM's service with a middle finger thumbnail ... 🤣

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

No, they are good folks. I get why a busy mechanic would brush it off as residual. Hopefully this will make them aware that this is a true leak.

[@painsrides]

@@LivingOffTheSlab .. I know MOM's is one of the better dealerships for sales and service anywhere. But, missing a loose o-ring cap is prime fodder for for busting a "professional" mechanic's ass 😉

[@serguti]

Thanks for sharing…. Yesterday I was liking at the Triumph as an option to replace my S10 (2016)… I’ll go for the ECU flash and keep enjoying the Yamaha reliability 😎

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Good choice, but this is hardly a reason to doubt the Triumph's reliability.

[@serguti]

@@LivingOffTheSlab Agree… I’ll keep an eye on your videos, for now I’ll keep the S10 for 2 more seasons. Greetings from 🇨🇦

[@kingkrimson8771]

Where can a person get the ECU flash done? And would it void the powertrain warranty?

[@shegocrazy]

I've seen that issue before and the dealer replaced the o ring. I think the original o ring needs to be exactly in the middle of the recess when the cap goes back on but it probably moves a bit as you tighten it.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

The o-ring goes around the cap, there is no way for it to be moved. The cap bottoms out on the cover before the o-ring can be compressed enough to seal. Either the o-ring is too small or the recess on the cover was milled too deep.

[@born2bwildne744]

yeah !!

[@maxw576]

Thanks for the tip. I would have handled that one without dealer, but I keep a lot of O-rings on hand. Amazing for a dealer tech to assume an owner didn't try wiping the cover off. 🙄 I would have called B.S. I hope you don't have to go back for any serious repair. 😬

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

It was simple problem and I get why a busy mechanic would overlook it.

[@maxw576]

@@LivingOffTheSlab I was thinking of mailing them a repair kit with o-ring, cloth and instructions as a joke. I won't as I wouldn't want to hurt your relations with them. Take care.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

@@maxw576 Lol...don't do that.

[@craigfinnegan8534]

@@maxw576 Just sending them a link to this video would go a lot further.

[@AdiAdiTiger1200]

A ja w Polsce mam korek i oring w moim Tiger. Nic nie wycieka. Zablokował mi się korek wlewu paliwa .

[@Arturdomundo]

Thanks! Help me a lot. Hugs from Portugal

[@craigfinnegan8534]

Only time will tell if this is a small issue, since most factory flaws are rooted in manufacturer's attitudes. Here are 2 more issues I recently read about the new Tiger 1200 - the hydraulic clutch not being adjusted properly at the dealership, and leaking clutch slave cylinders.... "New bike: 2022 Tiger 1200 GT Explorer Picked it up on Friday, rode away very carefully and gingerly, new bike and all getting familiar with the biting point etc is something that just comes with time." "Naturally, new engine has run in requirements and has its restrictions, can't go above 3.5k rpm for first 100 miles so it's very careful riding and no high revs - because of this one wouldn't notice a clutch issue, because you're treating it like a newborn." "The first time I noticed the engine not giving its full power was when I went for my first overtake - pulled the trigger and it revved without pulling the bike. Me being the optimistic chump I am assumed this was a rev-protection feature to do with the run-in period....surely it's not a clutch issue..." "I'm obviously taking the bike back to have it sorted, but I'm after the following advice because this for me has killed the joy of my first zero-mile machine." "When it came to this process, I did it all by the book - the bedding in the lot, it's precious to me because I want the absolute best engine for its entire life time. Now I find the entire time the clutch has been slipping, from 1st gear on every launch, to 5th and 6th gear when trying to pull away at 60/70/80 MPH - engine revved and clutch slipped, it took about 30 seconds to get from 70 to 80 because it was slipping so hard." "Could this have damaged the run-in process? When we run in are we doing it only to the engine pistons side or to the crank/clutch side also? Is there any, and I mean ANY way, this stupid screw up will have cause some kind of minor damage to the new perfect engine during its first 300miles?" "250 miles later and we've unlocked up to 5k rpm. Now it's painfully obvious that the clutch is slipping:. Any attempt to take off quickly, even within the 5k range, results in the revs flying and the bike not pulling. In addition to the horrible feeling powerless engine, I stopped to find oil had leaked surrounding the main engine oil cap, but was unable to tell if this had leaked from the cap itself or from the hydraulic clutch." "As for the hydraulic clutch, apparently its somewhat different to previous versions and is externally adjustable, even though its hydraulic - it caught them out and they apologized; its now its adjusted and working as intended." "I just got unlucky with an o-ring and a clutch that caught the technicians off-guard - please do learn from this and if the clutch feels like it has a very late biting point when you ride it away, or after you unlock 5k RPM it isnt pulling with the revs, take it back right away and let them know its a new style clutch!" "They were able to fix my clutch with just an adjustment, haven't had any issues since - however I am still getting a slight oil leak and they've replaced the oil cap o-ring twice now, if it leaks again I'll take note of your issue and push for a full inspection on the slave cylinder!" "600 miles and 5 days with new Tiger 1200 GT PRO and clutch not clearing. Located to leaking clutch slave cylinder. Replaced under warranty and dealer told me that replacement cylinder looked very different to original. Also, another bike in showroom had leaking slave cylinder for which Triumph was ending replacement. Bad batch or design fault? What is the extent of recall? No problems since, further 600 miles and enjoying bike, drive and handling is awesome." "Looks like a slave cylinder leak. Triumph will replace under warranty. I would go sooner rather than later. My bike is going back again on Saturday for investigation into headlight mount. The headlight can be moved, as if the cushion has become dislodged." "The slave cylinder is on top of the clutch housing behind the guard that is next to the oil filler cap - the master cylinder is on the handlebar. The cable going to the lever on the clutch housing comes from the slave cylinder and there is some manual adjustment." "I have a new (3 weeks old) GT Explorer with exactly the same issue as yours. I called my Triumph dealer today and they said - master cylinder fault and to send it in via Triumph recovery. Really not happy about it. Why over engineer a bike - it’s more complicated, more expensive and less reliable than a traditional cable. Miffed!"

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Have not experienced any of that.

[@craigfinnegan8534]

@@LivingOffTheSlab Glad to hear it. As the saying goes, "Fortune favors the prepared" so I threw all that out there.

[@georgetrillides3859]

Had same issue on my Tiger 1200 Rally Pro. The way I think I have rectified the issue is that I have flipped the o-ring upside down. 2 weeks and still no leak. Time will tell.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Interesting. Was there a nick or a flat spot?

[@georgetrillides3859]

@@LivingOffTheSlab I could feel a very slight flat spot around on the O-ring at the side that meets the metal, now this side has gone up against the cap.

[@rawwby10]

Having the same issue with my Tiger 850 Sport. Sorry if you addressed this already, but was this a permanent fix or did the issue return?

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Gasket fixed it for goog.. I think they may be have a factory fix now. Ask your dealer.

[@LTVoyager]

I take it that your oil filler cap is bottoming on the case outside of of the spot-faced area for the o-ring? My BMW oil filler bottoms on the o-ring itself, not on the case so the o-ring is always well compressed. It sounds like Triumph designed their cap to bottom hard on the case and then didn’t use a large enough section o-ring to fill the space left. The fact that only a small number of bikes have this problem suggests a manufacturing error rather than a design error. I am guessing that your case may have been spot-faced a little too deep leaving too much of a gap for the 18x3.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

That is it exactly.

[@AnthonyGriz]

Easy fix, but that doesn't inspire any confidence for any bigger issues one might come across with being treated that way by a Triumph dealer. Glad you found the solution, to what could be a potential design or manufacturing batch issue at Triumph. Hope that's the last of your issues with the bike!

[@jablenski]

Does every bike have cap gasket? I ordered new cap but came without gasket.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Should have one, I guess it is sold separately.

[@Chance-ry1hq]

And so it begins. 600 miles 1st problem. Something so simple and they refuse to fix it. Good luck and keep us informed.

[@marinoopen]

Hmm.. mine hasnt leaked at all in 3500+ miles, but good to know. Thanks for posting

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Interesting. Maybe there are a few that got bad o-rings.

[@rickp6391]

Hi Craig, just a quick question. Mom's sells yamaha, why not buy another Super Tenere instead of the Tiger? I have over 120,000 miles on the two I've owned and still going. Rick

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

That was my first thought, but there are no S10s to be found, have not been for a couple of years. Could have tried to find a used one, but wanted to trade the BMW so I didn't have to deal with a private sale. We shall see when/if Yamaha can start delivering bikes again.

[@rickp6391]

@@LivingOffTheSlab Thanks for the reply, I was shocked to see the S10 on Yamaha's site for 2023. I believe Euro 5 killed it in all of Europe. I'm trying to upgrade my 2019 as we speak. Hopefully they send a lot of '23s stateside.

[@TheEasyrider1200]

Bit off topic, but I've been watching your videos on the Triumph Tiger. My wife is 4foot 11, and we bumped into a guy with an older Tiger that he lowered. My wife sat on it, and voila, she fit! So off we went looking for a Tiger. Came perilously close to buying one until I found out that every 12k miles is a $1550 valve adjustment! So basically, I would need to throw that our each year on top of all the other upkeep costs. Total deal breaker. Great bike, but sorry, that's insane.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

The newer bikes are every 20K miles so it is a bit better. Every non v-twin requires periodic value adjustments. True of Triumph, BMW, Ducati, Yamaha, Honda, etc. The prices vary but it is still a big job for every bike. The Yamaha Super Tenere requires it every 26K and it runs between $800 to $1000. The BMW K1600 is every 18K and runs closer to $2K.

[@49googie]

Well what do you know, Triumph are going back to their heritage, you need to place a drip try in your garage to catch the oil from a Triumph even in 2022 !! lol

[@paultiffin330]

Just another reason I'll stay with my ultra-reliable Yamaha S10 😉

[@TechnMoto]

Dealers wonder why they are losing customers. Good fix.

[@rider_bravo]

Looks like you need to find a better dealership. Some places don't care after the sale is done.

[@Pete128]

So why is it that dealers know less and care less than the owners and customers that keep them in business? Nice fix buy the way, thanks for that!

[@kingkrimson8771]

Good job solving the problem yourself, but it's disappointing to know that the dealer just blew you off like that. Currently trying to decide between Super Tenere and Tiger 1200 and stories like this influence my choice.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

I bought my Tenere from the same dealer and they have been good to me over the years. People make mistakes.

[@peanutbutter4829]

Apparently, your dealership is useless... They should of taken care if that very little issue.. Good Luck with that Triumph.

[@a.k1311]

You should stick with the german brand 😂😂

[@iivaridark6850]

Looks like Triumph dealers don't care. Thing is, Triumph doesn't accept clients doing the service work (that is, on new or rather new bikes) and that is why there sems to be a problem. I was interested in Triumph earlier but the urge to make a purchase disappeared when I studied closer.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

That is a bit extreme. This is a very minor issue and a single mechanic made a poor call.

[@bshortt4244]

Easy fix for sure... the oil leak.... ignored by the dealer....hmmmmmm

[@one60studios74]

That tech didn’t even try

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

He cleaned it off and felt that it was residual oil caught in the lip of the cover.

[@chevellless]

Well, if it was a BMW, they would have told you it's normal, they all do that!

[@rodneybarcus2233]

That dealership should be ashamed of themselves for not even looking at it and for insulting your intelligence. If they had looked at it they would have seen the o-ring was the wrong size. Makes you wonder when the bike was assembled how come triumph didn't catch this. Unacceptable!

[@jimmallery294]

Dealer won't give you a new washer worth $0.50 after you dropped $24,000 on the bike. This is not starting out well!

[@whitedragon179]

Why is this video so long? Can be summed up in 30 seconds. It's an 18mmx4mm o ring. Saved you five minutes of your life.

[@johnvaleriewelbers2995]

Not a good dealer 😳

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

That is not true. They have been great to me and it was a small issue and one very busy mechanic just made a bad call. I am not upset about it.

[@stroln]

So now the Triumph dealer thinks they fixed the problem.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

I corrected the problem with a new gasket.

[@stroln]

@@LivingOffTheSlab Yes you fixed the problem, but it you didn’t tell the dealer you fixed the the problem, the dealer now thinks it is not a problem on future bikes.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

@@stroln Yes, they know.

[@wellsjohnnysfunstuff1213]

Not a fan of Mom's. National Powersports has been much better to me.

[@LivingOffTheSlab]

Moms has always been great to me. Mistakes happen.

[@mikebarker9467]

Just fixed mine