2024/2025 Fiat 500e Review | Why Didn't Fiat Bring Literally Anything Else To America?

[@TheCapn23]

So glad I got a Bolt before it discontinued, it's the true cheap efficient king of EVs imo. ~$21k after tax credit with 250 miles range and more space than the Fiat.

[@toyotaprius79]

Hopefully you'll find some after market seats for comfort

[@xavierdupuis8]

Lol not at all, they have many problem with the battery and many persons are not able to have info.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

@@xavierdupuis8 So maybe learn about it before you comment. The recall was quite a while ago and pretty much complete for anyone that wanted a new pack with warranty, or sold it back to GM (which I did for full purchase value).

[@diydrivenGA]

@@davidmccarthy6061 Nothing better than a free-ish lease.

[@jaybou007]

Nice pick. I would’ve go for it if I didn’t live in Eastern Québec where AWD is a must.

[@markdc1145]

Another truly baffling decision from Stellantis. It's as if they gave someone in Italy the task of marketing this thing in the US or Canada but that person never traveled there.

[@intrinsicimagery]

@@markdc1145 like their only exposure to American culture was that crappy HBO series “Girls.”

[@eptdy]

Last thing we need is more crossovers.

[@Yoopercooper]

I love your final summary. Shedding light on how just simply the materials going in to building a vehicle do not equate the majority of the cost of manufacturing a vehicle. As someone who works in automated manufacturing, it’s important to take in to account the entire process of building.I love small vehicles and how they’re usually style forward options, but the simple fact of the matter is, that’s not what Americans are buying. To be honest, that’s not what the whole world is buying.

[@marcgrondin65]

which is a shame and the cascade effect is fewer people buy, the more likely the big corps will discontinue them .. leaving us with no choice than those behemoths. -> considering the size of families : it's all a bit ridiculous.

[@hedydd2]

Although I would never buy one of these, my daughter did own a diesel Fiat Panda for several years. Fiat make great small cars and the styling of this 500E is outstanding. For small-town use or rural short trips into town it is ideal for many people who want a stylish two seat, practical little diamond.

[@lisavandersteur8433]

I bought my used 2014 Fiat 500e for $9k in 2017in Minnesota with only 7k miles on odometer. It has been a perfect city car. It still shows over 120 miles possible range in 70 degree temps. The Bosch battery pack is reliable and not showing any noticeable degradation helped by active cooling system after 55,000 miles of driving. No problems. Replaced tires, windshield wipers and topped off fluids only maintenance needed. It had one minor software recall that was fixed before I owned the car. Original brakes still usable for at least 10k more miles due to regen braking. Would I buy a new 2024 Fiat 500e? Not for $36,000!!!! Way overpriced for the new cars range and considering far more competitive offerings by other marques. Sad because they are great city cars (holds 23 bags of groceries!) and all the owners who I know who have the original U.S. version won't part with them. Heck, so many were exported grey market style to Europe it raised the value of the beauties.... I can still sell mine for $7000 any day of the week. But repeat, 2024 version too expensive and ridiculous lease pricing to boot.

[@hnkfsh81]

Might be a good car to buy at $30K.

[@wpelfeta]

> "Great landing, wrong airport" Had a great laugh at that.

[@bitterone-1]

The size is a FEATURE in the city, which is what they should be advertising (with easy charging solution for apt dwellers)

[@bruddahmanmatt]

I am eagerly awaiting your “will a rear facing child seat fit” review for the 500e. This thing makes my Polestar 2 look like a Maybach.

[@fantomtuba]

17s used to be big for North American cars. I remember buying my 14 Accord Hybrid new, and worried that the 17s would pop tires. I did get flats, but it was the tires fault, not the rim. Once I changed to Micheline Defenders, I didn't have any issues, other than losing a bit of mpg.

[@toyotaprius79]

Exactly. Lss it's simply more profitable in spite of 25-30% inflation in the last 15 years caused by competition and the market trend/failure to offer bigger rims, more options, more room, more cylinders and telling the public that people only want a second mortgage on their luxury crossovers.

[@toyotaprius79]

Here in Europe there's a base wheel option that are 16". It's pointless to limit the option for the affordable trims, it speaks loudly what kind of consumer Fiat thinks they want (the MINI/BMW driver) 15" rims with plenty of sidewall is sensibly perfect and hard to come by now, when so many new vehicles are coming out with low profile 20" 245+ wide money sucking pot hole tyres; like the VW ID BUZZ

[@haysgoodman8068]

My 2004 Sentra SE-R had 185/60/14’s. Handled beautifully with its limited slip front diff. The ultimate in grip? No. But very predictable.

[@editz01]

@@haysgoodman8068 Try 175/70/13's for a '91 CRX. I have about four choices now and only two are recognizable Korean brands.

[@winc06]

Interesting. A retro cheap car for a high price.

[@M1911jln]

Electric door releases are just stupid. Please give me a regular door handle that I can pull.

[@tonyvargas368]

Homologation is probably too expensive for us to get the 600E or Grand Panda. Stellantis has show it isnt willing to invest much money in the American market.

[@Marker-er3ro]

I agree on offering the cabriolet, we had the ice version of a 500c with a manual and for what it was, it was a fun car.

[@farcinue]

I love it. We don’t have kids and live in LA. So, this would make a good commuter and errand runner.

[@reserva120]

Creepy

[@Johnny_Socko]

The original 500e was massively popular in LA. I would see them every day on the road. There were three of them in my neighborhood alone (one on my street, two on the next street over).

[@jackfishcampbell6745]

I'd hardly call 17 in tires tiny . My 93 Mazda 323 had 13 in wheels . My Kian Niro Hybrid has 16 205 tires and they're fine . The 16's on my Niro are significantly smoother than the 18's that came on the car .

[@luigi55125]

My 92 Ford Festiva has 12 inch lol.

[@garyclark6747]

Well, you convinced me that the targeted city get around economic choice isn’t the road warrior convertible, upscale competitor. If you take 150 mile range multiplied by 1.7 (One DCFC stop) gives you 255 miles road trip range. If you’re ever going beyond that, don’t buy this. If you only do that once in a while, don’t hesitate buying this. If you carry more than two people, you should have your head examined. I agree with you that the rear seat should be removed and this be used for exactly what it’s intention is which is a mild climate economic get around only if you can AC charge it regularly. I would lease the base trim with nothing down. If you buy it then put in a huge sunroof it’s obviously capable of hosting for that sun run fun motif. Honestly trips without adaptive cruise would be a pain which is its greatest hint this is not its intended use case. Two small cases in the rear and a dog in the back seat for a weekend get away should be your greatest ask. It you need five cases for two people then it’s definitely about the close destination and not the journey. 💯 28:38

[@Johnny_Socko]

One of my favorite statistics about the previous-gen 500 was that the rear seat was more spacious than the Chevy Camaro. Obviously a low bar, but it demonstrates how poorly-packaged that Camaro was.

[@billshoe22191]

Stellantis is so mismanaged. Carlos Tavares has no idea what he’s doing and does not understand anything about the American automotive market

[@nathanielmorrison9266]

I currently have a 124 Spider. I wanted to add the 500e to my collection I told the dealer that Fiat would have to come with the rag top or drop the price. I can wait.

[@masterstrauss]

Great work. Lots of excellent detail on your walk around. And I appreciate your input on other options that Fiat could have brought over and didn't as well as the price comparisons.

[@jywn]

love that we get to have the option of getting the 500, maybe VW should consider making a BEV beetle

[@harriettanthony7352]

Now THAT would sell! For the doubters; see some videos of the OLD beetles turned into EVs. FAR better speed, better weight distribution, less noise, FAR less in repairs, a win for all but VW. They want EXPENSIVE EVs only. The CEO's trips to "Epstein Isle Number 02 are expensive

[@GibsonBuck]

You're not the target public. It's a city woman car. Nimble, easy to park, looks great.

[@springertube]

The rear seat's good/safer/more comfy for Fido than just a cargo area! Reliability issues aside, I kind of miss the old gas model! Not mentioned is that, for a non SUV/crossover, the step-in height to the seat is actually pretty good. It is very odd that they did not just do a normal console so the cup holder (and x2) and other features could be at normal level - they obviously have the space for it. Maybe some entrepreneurial JC Whitney type come up with something to fill that space usefully. The gauge/ infotainment units are light years ahead of the discontinued gas model. Mini Cooper are you listening? "Cute" but quirky-dysfunctional only gets you so far. Edit: of the two alternative models Alex feels would have made more sense for the US market, I vote for the 600e. I would further vote for a hybrid variant.

[@rp9674]

Love my 2015 Fiat 500e, if the price came down this would be nice. I took the organizer out of the trunk it gave me a lot more room

[@darrylp6938]

What on earth is Stellantis smoking

[@ChrisParayno]

I'm don't agree with the pricing but definitely this is not for all folks. Makes sense as a city car.

[@nc3826]

Why Didn't Fiat (i.e Stetlantis) Bring Literally Anything Else To America"? Was basically what I thought , when Stetlantis announced about a year ago. It was going to bring the 500e to America. For example, why not the Jeep Avenger? But any other Stetlantis EV, would have been a better choice. Sad to hear that the review confirmed what I already believed was the case :(

[@toyotaprius79]

Old FCA boss was an idiot who spited his own nose a number of times which carried on after death through the PSA merger into Stellantis. The slow rollout of the 500e or any Citroën/Peugeot for that matter just shows how poorly Stellantis is utilising their lineup. Chrysler is practically brain dead so why not rebadged and homogenise a Citroen C4 Picasso, ëC4, C5X or Peugeot 3008 for the yanks? But what you do get is a rebadged Dodge from an expensive performance high-end crossover Alfa Romeo? The fact that the 500e is the only model on its FCA designed platform shows how poorly that platform is being utilised and squandered in favour of the profitable crossover. Any kind of body from a mini-estate Giardinia, a Panda or an EV 124 Spyder/Barchetta/Bianchina/Coupé could all be viable platforms much like how the previous Mini platform was stretched and developed.

[@alliejr]

Clearly the other Fiat offerings would not pass USA safety specifications without significant changes so we’re stuck with the 500e.

[@harriettanthony7352]

This HAS to be another compliance car--again. We have seen this trend too often

[@nc3826]

Every EV is a compliance car... And City cars have their place.... Just not overpriced ones for the US...

[@周会卓]

Perfect commuter car, if it’s 30%cheaper

[@toyotaprius79]

There's a base trim and a 24kWh option in Europe, of course the yanks don't get that nor the soft top roof. The base 500 should've been adapted into a light weight plugin hybrid but all that got was a 12v hybrid and the deletion of old base trim.

[@MistSoalar]

I wonder if Stella wants keep Fiat to be quirky "exotic" brand in America rather than head-on competition to others

[@Johnny_Socko]

That's fine if true. That was the intention of the Fiat re-launch under Marchionne, but they botched that pretty badly in terms of marketing. I still think a savvy company could make it work, but Stellantis has proven to be the opposite of that. (Much as it pains me to say.)

[@coder543]

"software is snappy" -- each click takes 2 to 3 seconds to respond... we have very different definitions of "snappy".

[@tomeng9520]

Did you know that if you have dry fingers like the guy in the video has, touch screens don't work that well.

[@coder543]

@@tomeng9520 no. The screen was not responding. It wasn’t about tapping multiple times. After the tap, it took forever to do things, which is not a symptom of dry fingers. Touchscreens also work fine for him in other videos.

[@SaintMecha]

Car journalists " variety please, too much crossover is bad" Car company "ok, get this cute little city car" Car journalists" Nooooooo F you and f your country, bring bigger cuv or else"

[@SSS-mp8th]

I'm expecting Stellantis to pull Fiat and Chrysler soon from NA. Wonder if it will be 50% off in a year or two like most EV's these days.

[@tonyn3227]

If they pull out where would you service it, and with fiat you will need service.

[@SSS-mp8th]

@@tonyn3227 same place you service your Saturn, Plymouth, Oldsmobile, Saab, etc.

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

I doubt Chrysler gets pulled. Most of Chrysler's issues right now are due to being starved so FCA could bring Fiat and Alfa Romeo to the United States. Chrysler is probably Stellantis's third most profitable brand this year because they have a US built minivan. Certain fleet operators that need minivans are restricted to US built vehicles which accounts for most of the Pacifica sales. From the rumors, they are going to be the flagship EV/Commuter brand for Stellantis NA.

[@James58094]

that's true, I do wish it's only two seats so I don't need to be a driver for my friends who don't have cars.

[@jimrusch22]

The only Fiat 500 worth considering is the discontinued Abarth convertible.

[@toyotaprius79]

Ever 500 with the convertible is worth considering. Clearly you never had experience with the Twin Air.

[@RiotShieldMan]

I would like this little car, it would fit perfectly with my day-to-day driving needs. However, since I yearn to move out to the countryside it definitely would not work out. And even if I weren't moving to the coubtry the price point is what would really keep me from getting it.

[@AndrewHaverson]

Fan of the urbanite size. Not of the fan of the lacking cup holders and price, even with government credits in Canada.

[@TheJ1s]

I totally agree in your intro statement, plus the price don't complement the range it has. Best to get the Bolt instead or the Equinox.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Not sure about the value but we'll see how the reliability is. Hoping for an Abarth version.

[@lp2565]

Hell Yes. Should have brought the soft top!

[@tkmedia3866]

maybe even the 3+1 with that extra door.

[@sharonb.9128]

Great video. The only use I can see for this vehicle is being the tow vehicle behind a couple’s RV. I can’t even see this as a first car for a graduate because of the price.

[@scott1127]

When year-old 2024 500e's are selling used next year for $15k or less, I may be interested!

[@Qrail]

Ok. You don’t like it. I previously had a Smart EV. I would cross shop this with an electric Mini. Buying the Fiat, I can already see savings in tire replacement, and economy. I used to average 3.9 on the Smart. My Leaf was 3.7. But that was 10 years ago. I will await the long term results of the Blazer, and if I had a choice, it wouldn’t be a GM product.

[@TalismanPHX]

Yes please to the 500 convertible. Fiat needs to make a decision on whether it wants to give Americans a full lineup of models or just continue to be a niche boutique offering. Give us the 600E and the Grand Panda 🐼 (super cute vehicle) and fix Fiat's poor reliability image... people will buy them for their style.

[@frankdeboer1347]

I love that you had John Pinette loaded up in your phone.

[@karlInSanDiego]

to clarify something you said here, it's larger than the 1957 Fiat 500 by a lot, 3.4" longer than a 1st gen modern Fiat 500, but 1" shorter than an our 2013 Abarth 500. It's not really a bigger car by any appreciable measure, I'd say.

[@dadadadada17]

Here in Europe a lot of women love that car. I can imagine it could also be popular in America with young women or with older ladies.

[@Iamwatchingyou75]

I think Fiat/Stellantis knows none of the Fiat line-up would sell well in the US. But having the 'normal' 500 as a statement and riding around California car is worth it for global marketing.

[@PresidentJackBauer]

This vehicle isn't in a vacuum as far as price. It competes with a model 3 which isn't a large car just because this is tiny. If you don't specifically need an ev, a hyundai venue has more space and features and is still very small and likely 10k cheaper. There are just better choices at this price and at a relatively close size. It makes no sense for anyone.

[@rhill109]

Maybe consider it a big golf cart.

[@toyotaprius79]

If you're lucky to find a Mitsubishi iMiEV second hand these days

[@jeremydupuis3344]

I understand that it cannot be Versa price but what about Bolt price or leave price. However it should be pointed out that the MINI ev has all the same issue for the same price.

[@austinpowers6260]

This will be a decent buy used for 20k next year.

[@royramirez8626]

I have a 2015 Fiat 500 Sport and love it. 50 mpg on freeway straightaways and still on the same original set of brakes!! I also have a 2016 Fiat 500e and use it for local travel. No trouble to date. Both extremely reliable cars to date!!

[@bfvader]

An NMC battery means you should only be charging to 80% on the 500e, which will significantly impact range/usability. I feel like smaller packs should use LFP batteries so that you can regularly use 100% of the capacity (even if there's less overall due to energy density). Its not like its going to be a charging monster either way.

[@vulpinemac]

Having personally owned a Fiat 500 previously, this "Influencer" is exaggerating the negatives of the car, as he quite obviously makes every 'fault' look far worse than it is. I personally carried two women, one right at 6' tall, AND their luggage to the airport on their way to a bowling tournament in the car by laying one the rear seats flat (yes, they will lie flat, though still a small step above the cargo floor). They were each carrying 3-ball bowling bags and a suitcase, along with their purse/carryon bags. The airport, btw, was 50 miles away from their homes. So while admittedly tight, it wasn't impossible. --- So in all actuality, this little car isn't nearly as bad as he says and is a blast to drive with the 115 horses and 150 torgue.

[@monsterpartywars2018]

That was literally a different car.

[@vulpinemac]

@@monsterpartywars2018 Not really. Sure, the original was a gasser and not electric, but we're not talking about drivetrains. By everything I could see in the video, the 500e is effectively identical to the older 500, with the exception of the shape of the rear headrest mounts. And yes, you CAN take those off before folding the back seats, which allows the seat backs to lie flat and make for a more stable cargo platform. ---- As I say, all the negatives about this vehicle were exaggerated and the positives minimized to MAKE it look bad. The Fiat 500e would be no less fun to drive with notably better performance than any non--turbo predecessor.

[@herbieonline_]

the flag on the fender isn’t a turn signal!? what a shame

[@BiagioOliverio-c7t]

I drove fiat wagon in Italy and was a great car, they have several mini trucks, only if Stellantis really car, they would sale tons of them.

[@glennkennedy441]

I like it just the way it is, but not at that price !

[@jamarimutt]

It seems to me that people interested in this car are interested in this car, not at all in an Equinox, so the comparison is of litle use.

[@arevee9429]

Yes, Grand Panda is much better. Retro is pretty much done. There's a reason why Stellantis isn't doing well - bad decisions.

[@stackchn]

Fiat should have brought the compact Toro truck 4x4 to US shores to compete against the Maverick. Ram 🐏 should have brought the Rampage here as well but Stellantis doesn't know what the hell their doing

[@DeadAir21]

They wont because of the chicken tax. Both vehicles are made in Brazil.

[@damilolaakanni]

They can try to build those in the US or Mexico, as Ford does with the Maverick.

[@DeadAir21]

@@damilolaakanni it would be too expensive to build these in the US. As for Mexico, they are using that plant for EV’s and they need EV’s for the carbon credits. Besides even if they did make it once they build it to US safety standards it’ll probably be priced high that it wouldn’t be appealing. The Maverick’s main selling point was that it was cheap but the price has gone up almost 25% since launch.

[@marcosdepaula3593]

Fiat has other cars that I would love to see and maybe even own, there is a WV Jetta Comparable made by Fiat (I believe it is called the "Palio") but I am not 100% sure. I agree, they brought the most inadequate vehicle to the US!

[@alliejr]

Alex, I think you’re totally missing the point. Does the Miata make any sense as transportation, or value for price? Nope. But we all celebrate its existence. Similarly, this 500e is for someone who might drive a Miata.

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

I can fit this in my Sprinter AND get 35mpg on the highway!

[@jasonhillgiant]

Current lease deals aren’t horrible. But the lack of adaptive cruise is a killer for my stop and go commute. The lack of vented seat is insult added to injury.

[@N2tech]

Honestly, I never thought about a Fiat, but after seeing their other models this is downright awkward and ugly. I would rather go with the Toyota Yaris if it was still made for the US.

[@robhood1167]

There are so many of these things in Rome! They are all over the place. It looks like a large car there.

[@Rioichi4]

I feel like this is the car that the rest of the world thinks Americans *should* like. Most Americans live in big cities and ofc we want something environmentally aware. Tiny EV? Perfect!

[@jackfishcampbell6745]

Most Americans don't live I Manhattan , and spend a lot of time on freeways . Europe is far more urban . The US is a lot of sprawl .

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

1. Should have priced it like the Bolt in its last years 2. Should have put the motor in the rear 3. Should have added a more powerful 200hp motor. In EVs more powerful motors does not mean less efficient if driven normally.

[@tombh74]

Why would you want to "DC charge for the full hour to move on to the next charging station" when on a road trip? Charging 20% to 80% is by far the fastest way to go, taking less than 30 minutes, or is it because there are so few charging places in the US that you need to fully charge each time?

[@user-ss3ud7pp7f]

Holding out for that three row.

[@toyotaprius79]

They could if they extended that chassis into a Multipla/600 product instead of a lazy ass crossover . If Stellantis bothered to show some interest and investment in the diversification of the 500e chassis there would easily be a mini -estate Giardinia, a Panda, a coupé or even that soft top convertible available in Europe.

[@JURASSICEDITS09]

A hybrid would have made way more sense. Using a small gas engine and a E cvt similar performance and incredible mpg an range . Less weight better ride and more affordable.

[@toyotaprius79]

Here's the thing, if the exFCA CEO wasn't such an idiot, the 500e could've had 5 more years of development. We've heard uninspiring news that the 500e was getting a hybrid in a few years which just screams incompetence because there's over a decade of hybrid 500 concepts and decades older EV, PHEV and HYB Fiat concepts. A Twin Air (800cc 2cyl) plugin hybrid was always possible, it would've been lighter and more accessible but Fiat simply ignored that and lobbied against incoming EU emissions legislation instead of investing in the future to which we get a very expensive, posh and uncompetitive 500e. Excluding the EU-only 24kWh 500e, the most Fiat achieved was a 12v mild hybrid with a completely new 1000cc 3cyl in 2020 for what is 1989s technology.

[@Johnny_Socko]

Two things: One, I do not see the point in a review of a small car that punishes the car for being small. Obviously we know that bigger cars exist. It's no more fair than punishing the Chevy Blazer for not being able to fit into a tiny parking space. As far as the shopper is concerned, that is a given. Two, I think it's borderline dereliction of duty to mention that the Equinox qualifies for the $7500 tax credit on purchase, but *NOT* mention that the 500e qualifies for the $7500 tax credit on lease. Considering that the original 500e was exclusively a lease-only vehicle, I don't think a ton of potential customers will be turned-off by the idea of a lease being a better deal than a purchase. And if someone is really motivated to _buy_ a 500e, well then they can still do that. Otherwise, I agree that Stellantis' product decisions for North America are truly baffling. They have abandoned entire segments by cancelling certain vehicles and not having replacements ready. As a former 500L owner, I would love for _anybody_ to sell an "MPV"-type vehicle in the USA again. I think the Grande Panda would be really popular over here.

[@rich7447]

4:51 "with red turn signals" the left turn signal looks amber to me.

[@Jeo-What]

interesting vehicle that reminded me of my 2005 SMArt for Two that drives like a Go Kart. I wonder how much more miles would it give if the rear seat are removed which would make it perfectly flat for easy access for cargos as well.

[@themanthemyththebanger]

I'm lobbying Alex to put Randy Travis' "On the Other Hand" in a future video as the infotainment Easter egg. :)

[@toyotaprius79]

Call ot the pragmatist's EV? Considering how badly the market is failing with crossovers (or impractical priuses) , sure it's that practical size at a very impractical target audience. The fact that the 500e is the only model on its FCA designed platform shows how poorly that platform is being utilised and squandered in favour of the profitable crossover. Any kind of body from a mini-estate Giardinia, a Panda or an EV 124 Spyder/Barchetta/Bianchina/Coupé could all be viable platforms much like how the previous Mini platform was stretched and developed.

[@JestersDeadUK]

AMAZING car, silly Americans, you don’t need a MASSIVE GAS GUZZLER!!!! Like wasting money? We plug our in around corner and 200miles in an hour of for FREE at home overnight trickle charge, has almost ANY other car off at the lights and soooo quiet and smooth! 😮❤

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

They are basically giving these away if you can find a dealer. Since it's a foreign vehicle you can get $11250 of tax credits in California. Then they offer an additional $2500 off. It's a $20k vehicle. Just imagine the carnage with the domestic $25k Jeep EV, or Chinese EVs. They will cost nothing by today's prices.

[@user-ss3ud7pp7f]

I think it’s great,not everybody needs a 200 or 300 mile range EV. And with some coolness too. Everything in this country gets supersized I mean, general motors made an electric hummer for chrissake..

[@toyotaprius79]

💯🎯 But in the same breath, nobody needs a 30 grand city car that more focused on the wealthy Mini/BMW drivers and luxury product placements for Armanio Girorgoo or Gucci whatevertf as limited edition trims. The 500e has frankly been spoiled by bougie antics and a far cry from the original 500, to the point that EVs are getting the blame.

[@cyrilmatthew2995]

If there was a proper 4 door FIAT hatchback like Punto ...that would have been great ...

[@phillyspitta8147]

That could’ve made a 🇺🇸 Panda ev small battery 20 -25k price range =success story . Or even gave us a gas Panda .

[@johnny02128]

If it was $10k cheaper starting it would probably make more sense. Looks like a $20-25k vehicle inside and out IMHO Other than pricing it a great urban commuter car Edit: made this comment before listening to the conclusion 🤣 Still think it's overpriced since most of the structural development was already done for the ICE variant before making it an EV. The battery is usually the most expensive component of building an EV and this has a battery capacity that some manufacturers put in their PHEVs...

[@Longsnowsm]

I just saw on X something about Fiat dropping the price to something like $21k. If they drop the price that low they will sell. Would like to see some sort of confirmation that just happened. Maybe that is just the overseas market?

[@jaybou007]

This would be a fine car. It’s just about 12 to 15 000$ too expensive for what it is.

[@tbone9405]

I would look at buying a used BMW i3 instead of this! For half the price. I’m buying a used 2019 BMW I3 Rex in 2024 for less than 20k, and then take off the EV rebate of 4,000. 😮

[@cheaptricked]

Bring back the Abarth!

[@eptdy]

America needs more small cars. Crossovers are a pointless and dont offer much more than cars.

[@minienigma]

I was interested in it, but I find too many desired features missing, and too many features I don't want... Things like power fold mirrors are missing, but power open doors that to me are not necessary, especially for small car like this. Similarly, for the price, the material quality is pretty low, again not really adding much value to the vehicle. Further more, there are very few customization options that made the 500e hard to be desirable....

[@tekolicious8310]

one error I see in your logic is, the smaller car has a smaller battery. This would mean the cost to produce is lower, because the battery is the most expensive component. So the cost should be lower to produce and make a profit. The fact that you can buy a bigger car with a way bigger battery for the same money, means Fiat is counting on people wanting the name plate.

[@cch201992]

I'm annoyed they didn't make it AWD like make it a hot hatch with crazy power I would have bought it 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@michaelc9287]

A car that small only makes sense in dense European cities and few Americans will pay such a big premium for one when you can get a golf cart that's bigger.

[@bikebudha01]

SIgh... why didn't they give us the 500e Abarth...?? That's the one where I hand over my money to Fiat. (The Panda might also get my money...)

[@carlbusque]

Totally agree!

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

It could be a little bit of a "fit" for our market if it was prices at 30-35K. With the tax credit it would be well under 30K

[@Johnny_Socko]

The tax credit does apply if you lease this car.

[@jamarimutt]

Dis you know that 205 45 17 has been the OEM tire for Miatas since 2006 through 2024?

[@tonyn3227]

Agreed fiat grand panda ev, would have been much better choice, which by the way costs $23k in Europe, and has 200 mile range, while this little thing is so overpriced with battery about doing barely 140 miles and for $35k. No way man.

[@apexerman1]

Yes, if Fiat was going to reenter the North American market, it had other options as mentioned. But if they were limited to the 500, we should've had the convertible and Abarth make an appearance. Let's face it... fun plays a strong part in the purchase rationale. Sure, urban commuters will appreciate the small size, but combine the sliding top convertible with its nimbleness, cute demeanor and zippy performance, and Fiat could deliver a fun factor not seen in other EVs. Would that sell in great numbers? Probably not, but that's for the other models. Instead, the 500 should be marketed as a energetic four-wheeled puppy... a true go-kart for street. Drop the sensible commuter crap. It should be a smile-maker.

[@fighter835]

I would lease for 200ish per month. Cheap and cheerful cars should be CHEAP!

[@toddp7324]

Umm, no, 205/55R17s are not "tiny." They're perfectly ordinary, probably larger than necessary for a small economy car. Alex, like many car reviewers, has a weird obsession with wanting bigger and wider tires, even though they cost more and lead to worse fuel economy. Even worse are skinny sidewalls that are easy to damage when driving over potholes.

[@TheCapn23]

Just doesn't cut it. Too expensive for the lack of range. I actually like it style and size wise.

[@mad636man]

I’m playing devils advocate here, but I have a feeling if it had 300 miles range you and many others would find another reason to hate it. Likely the looks. 😂😂 the negativity towards ev blows my mind. This isn’t an attack on your comment so please don’t take it that way. Just an observation on how people will say anything to make it seem like “oh if it wasn’t for that, I would buy an ev” and it’s just simply not true. People seem too set in their ways to try something new. And the sad part is they buy cars with features they don’t like anyway. If you aren’t ordering a car and waiting months for it, you are probably compromising.

[@nc3826]

It's a shame, since Stetlantis already has more cost-effective options....

[@TheCapn23]

@@mad636man I agree most people just find reasons to hate on EVs. I actually own a Bolt EUV and love it.

[@mad636man]

@@TheCapn23 yeah model 3 owner here. Can’t tell you the amount of times I have to defend my ev purchase to people who are ignorant of evs. Haha

[@nc3826]

Don't let EV haters, blind your objectivity, to the fact that not every EV is appropriate for every market. Just like not every ICEV is appropriate for every market.

[@sudolea]

(around 17:15) 0-60 doesn't feel "speedy". I had to think over the feeling I had with my Golf I GTI : 0 - 100 km/hr (the European counterpart of your 0 - 60) in 8.8 seconds. Heck, did thát feel quick, back then ! Indeed, nothing compared to the 0 - 100 in 4.4 seconds I do with my current car, but still, 8.5 seconds to get there: that's not exactly slow either 😉