2024 Audi A8/S8- Bang & Olufsen 3D Advanced 23-speaker Sound System Review

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@937553 9 ай бұрын

I like that you added the comparisons....even with the Jetta

@nanospace2389 2 ай бұрын

would probably sound the same as the s8 if you added a couple crappy tweeters to the jetta, if not better

@ma7mgte 9 ай бұрын

I just re-listened to the same tracks from your Escalade AKG review, that system is still a beast!

@DailyMotorSound 8 ай бұрын

Agreed, I gotta get another one in to review.

@degou3438 9 ай бұрын

RR Bespoke Audio is absolutely insane, incomparable, it's basically a residential High End system in a car, in speakers, on stage, in amplification quality, tuning, everything.

@v12-s65 8 ай бұрын

I disagree.

@degou3438 8 ай бұрын

@@v12-s65 why? you are the only one, Charlie has already tested it here on the channel and I said it is the best, even listening to the video and based on the same headphone that you heard in other tests, the superiority is clear, it is the closest thing to a High End residential system. I've never seen a system so natural, realistic, clear, fast, with such a good stage but at the same time it's engaging and never sounds tiring or tiring. You have no idea how difficult it is to do this for a residential High End system, imagine it in a car.

@nanospace2389 4 ай бұрын

i think he says the bowers and wilkins in the volvo 60s and bmw i4 harman kardon is better than them

@degou3438 4 ай бұрын

@@nanospace2389 no, he has said that RR Bespoke Audio was the best audio system he has ever heard in a car. You can already tell from the video of the system itself. English is not my native language so please excuse any possible spelling mistakes

@nanospace2389 4 ай бұрын

@@degou3438 sorry this is a lot to read 😅 i believe in one of the rr tests there was some distortion in the bass test. However i think thats just a tuning issue. But also i think the rr bespoke audio is made by bowers and wilkins also judging by the way the speakers look as well as theyre owned by bmw now which also use bowers and wilkins. Also i saw that volvo won an award for having the best system in a car but i think thats judged on its balance as its virtually got a flat line for an eq.

@user473 9 ай бұрын

Regarding the LFE: it's a special effects channel that is usually limited to below 120Hz, but this is up to the mixing engineer to decide. This channel is only present when you play x.1 content. There is no LFE when playing stereo music, so your issue with this system comes from somewhere else. I should also mention that the subwoofer isn't there exclusively for LFE, it also plays low frequency content rerouted from other channels and that's what it's mostly used for. P.S. I've seen Geoff Martin from B&O mention in his blog that there are a handful of recordings that use LFE for height channel and B&O A/V processors have an option to redirect LFE to ceiling speaker for that purpose. I don't know if he had a part in designing this system, but he'll probably have an answer if you reach out to him.

@Skeppyberry 4 ай бұрын

spot on. Part of it is that the drivers in the front doors may play lower than usual in certain songs depending on the bass track. hence there may be low frequencies on the left channel only (rare but I have seen it) and it allows the system to properly distribute the low end.

@martonmisik886 8 ай бұрын

The comparison at the end was great! Keep up the quality work!

@glorifiedbusdriver7036 8 ай бұрын

At first, I felt like track no 5 wasn't too bad in the A8. The moment you bring out the comparison, they're not even close. You can clearly feel the difference when it comes to those 'driving' low bass especially in the 760i.

@nanospace2389 4 ай бұрын

this system kind of sounds flat in bass and theres not much there when the tracks are playing

@Skeppyberry 4 ай бұрын

I see where you are coming from. However, what you're experiencing with other systems is a V sound. boosted top end, boosted low end, and recessed mids. This is a very consumer focused sound that is used to make it sound sparkly and deep to the average listener. The top end Bang&Olufsen systems have a frequency response very close to flat. (the drivers respond basically flat but cabin reflections can change that). Which can lead to it feeling like it's too mid forward. I think they absolutely need a 5 band or more EQ in this car. It's crazy to me how Audi, a company that is so proud of its systems doesn't have one. Or at least have a "standard" mode that applies more of that "V" sound so that it is more appealing to the general listener. The lower spec of whichever of the 2 systems is in any given Audi car has the V, the upgraded one is flat. That's how they have between the general listener system and the enthusiast system. But if someone purchases the top system they absolutely should be able to configure it however they want. especially if they do want that V sound. But my general recommendation is that if you don't like the flatter sound and it feels to sharp or harsh to just step down the the lower Bang&Olufsen or the Audi 10 speaker. they are all fantastic and you won't feel as punched by the mids.

@mkm282 5 ай бұрын

Surprising review. I tried the older S8 B&O system and found that it has the best clarity. I would hear all layers of the music more clearly than most other Audio systems, like some details wouldn't even be heard in Naim or Burmester sound system. Edit: just heard the comparison at the end.. Amazing work🤤

@DrKrakus 9 ай бұрын

Thank You 👏 , 22:22 in my opinion, the best piano sound is from B&O . now waiting for A6/A7 with B&O Advanced 🙂

@DailyMotorSound 8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately we probably won't see the A6/A7 any time soon since we already reviewed an S6 (despite having the lower system). But maybe!

@snakeeyes9246 8 ай бұрын

@@DailyMotorSound keep in mind, you can get your hands on the new RS7 Performance with the 19 speaker system.

@DailyMotorSound 8 ай бұрын

I have considered that. Will be up to Audi!@@snakeeyes9246

@DrKrakus 8 ай бұрын

@DailyMotorSound great, and then we will have a comparison 1- Advanced VS Premium Sound system in A6/A7 2- Advanced with 19 speakers and 1820W in A6/A7 VS Advanced with 23 speakers and 1920W in higher models like A8 , Q8..

@degou3438 8 ай бұрын

@@DrKrakus Something tells me that in this case the Advanced with fewer speakers will sound better…

@Teonkennedy 7 ай бұрын

I felt the same with B&O in the RSQ8 and range rover meridian system, it sounds like something is off . great analysis!

@trilingualkid 9 ай бұрын

I own several Bang and olufsen speaker and in-ear, love their tuning profile, hopefully this carries it into their vehicle.

@strategicbushcraft6391 9 ай бұрын

I like the comparisons a lot. I agree that the Audi is not quite as good as the BMW and Merc on sound quality.

@regalgs51 5 ай бұрын

I have a 2021 Audi RS7 with the Bang and Olufsen Advanced system, and I will admit that when I got it, I was surprisingly disappointed in the sound quality. You cannot adjust the mid range, and it sounded muddy and not very clear no matter what music source I used. I found that if you use Spotify premium, which has a built-in equalizer, it completely changes the sound quality of the stereo and really makes it shine. I love the stereo in my RS7, as Spotify and its built-in equalizer transformed it into a completely different sounding system in my opinion.

@DailyMotorSound 5 ай бұрын

Glad you were able to remedy it! Sad that it required a third-party adjustment, but still good for your use case.

@SansSpidey 9 ай бұрын

The Volvo really is something else...

@snakeeyes9246 9 ай бұрын

As an A4 owner, I was looking forward to hearing this system. It seems good, but not great for the price. Assuming I go ICE for my next car, I will most likely look for an A6 or S6 with the 3D Advanced system instead of trying to go for an A8 or S8.

@BIGFKING 8 ай бұрын

A4 Avant sounds better than A4 sedan and I think A4 Avant is better than A8. Don’t know why but I think it is because carbin room space.

@snakeeyes9246 8 ай бұрын

@@BIGFKINGthat being said, it seems like all Audi models with 6 or 7 in their name and the E-tron GT/Q8 E-tron are the best in the brand. I hope Charlie gets an RS7 Performance with the 19 speaker system.

@Jimbo8012 4 ай бұрын

@@BIGFKING - Sound in an estate will always sound better than it will in a saloon/sedan. You can't stick a powerful sub in the boot of a saloon because you're going to get a shit of tonne of vibration and rattles because it's essentially a sealed enclosure within another sealed enclosure. In addition, most saloons with premium soundsystems stick 8 or 10 inch subs in the parcel shelf which is far from ideal. This precludes ever sticking something powerful in there because it just rattle the shit out of the shelf. Forget anything over 200 watts RMS.Also, an 8 inch sub just won't go down to the low frequencies that a larger sub can. You'd be very lucky to get under 40hz so bass will consequently suffer.

@prodlime 8 ай бұрын

Heard the advanced system in the new rs6 and was blown away, surprised you only gave it an A 😮

@Skeppyberry 4 ай бұрын

Sound is subjective. so his subjective rating is A, he isn't a fan of the flat sound curve because the mids are too harsh he said. the other systems shown (not the Jetta lol) have boosted top and and boosted low end to make it "Sparkle" and he is more attuned to that sound. I prefer Bang&Olufsens flat response.

@Howard24 9 ай бұрын

Sad to see Bang and Olufsen’s top systems not being on par with the Bowers and Wilkins and the Burmesters of the world. They are more than capable producing an amazing system, just don’t know why their automotive applications have been so weak. The only reasoning I could think of is Harman’s involvement in their automotive systems, which is unfortunate.

@DailyMotorSound 8 ай бұрын

Agreed, I think Harman has pushed for cost reduction. The Harman engineers are capable, but it's a large corporation, and profits always win.

@Howard24 8 ай бұрын

@@DailyMotorSound For sure. Could also just be Audi wanting to cut costs as well, as cars like the A8 were developed amidst Dieselgate. Audi also switched some of their lower tier cars to Sonos in the last couple of years, so it could be cost cutting regardless of Dieselgate. So basically cost cutting probably on both ends!

@Skeppyberry 4 ай бұрын

@@DailyMotorSound This is a proper system though. Id agree if this was in a ford branded "B&O" but this is all Bang&Olufsen engineers in Denmark doing this.

@Skeppyberry 4 ай бұрын

@@Howard24 I think we will see a large improvement in a few years. We are already starting to see it in certain cars drivetrains

@ktsmeb3859 23 күн бұрын

My a7 has B&O advanced with 3D sound, but i dont see this two speakers popping out when i start the car. Can someone tell me how i can fix it?

@hilorecords654 Ай бұрын

Someday you should compare custom sound systems vs oem high end sound systems

@simonmenyatso7337 9 ай бұрын

I would go for both Mercedes benz Burmester and Volvo's Bowers&Wilkins

@noahyoha894 8 ай бұрын

After listening to the comparisons, it really shows that the Audi system lacks the fullness and crispiness of the sound compared to the BMW and Merc's systems

@SteveCobbNow 4 ай бұрын

Great review - Thanks. Question, what is the current method for getting surround audio into cars? I assume it is the USB FLASH drive. You mentioned WAV files - Multichannel? Are FLAC files supported by most vehicles? I'm still using DTS from DVD's in my current Audi. It is pretty hard to find out what file formats are supported by various auto audio systems. Any pointers would be appreciated.

@DailyMotorSound 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! If you have access to a disc reader and can rip your DVDs, you could put those tracks on a USB drive. Or you can use a high quality audio service like Tidal or Amazon Music HD and then plug your device into the car using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto

@JacesOwnWorld 8 ай бұрын

The balance of sound across the hertz scale seemed to sound the best in the BMW. Nonetheless, I still wouldn't pay for these factory sound system upgrades. I would choose the base sound system, and then invest in STEG MSS 3-ways up front, STEG MSS components for rear fill, a JL Audio W6, W7, r a Sundown SA10 v.2 10" sub. Then I would power it all with a STEG MDSP12 12-channel amp and DSP, and possible a 4-channel STEG amp for front midbass speakers, and a STEG mono amp for the sub. This system with 12 less speakers, will absolutely demolish these factory sound system upgrades, in SQ and SPL.

@Jimbo8012 4 ай бұрын

True, but the problem is sticking a 10 inch sub rated to 1,000 watts RMS at 2 ohms in the boot of a saloon. You're just going to get a tonne of vibrations and rattles. Also, your system would cost at least 15k-20k with parts and labour especially if there are custom locations and fabrication going on. Plus, you'd have to think of maybe another battery to run that because of the power.

@jeffmao850 9 ай бұрын

Pretty subpar compared to Burmester, Volvo systems, and even Mark Levinsons.

@chrisstavro4698 9 ай бұрын

The A8 sounds muddy through my system. The 7 sounds like a large chamber - reverb, and perhaps a little muffled. Merc is clear but less warm. Which one has the least listening fatigue?

@degou3438 9 ай бұрын

I think the BMW is clearer but it has a more natural clarity, it has a better timbre, if you analyze it carefully, the Mercedes is less balanced and even sounds a little warmer at times

@v12-s65 8 ай бұрын

A 2019 range rover‘s meridian signature gives you the least head ache

@oriondoublecrossed 8 ай бұрын

@@v12-s65still the lexus lx570 along with the older 29 speaker meridian signature sound system remains the best imo. For bass lovers lx570 is the one since it has the most powerful sound system ever fitted in a car. Charlie did a review on it too and was surprised. He gave it S grade.

@revstreak 6 ай бұрын

PLS devaluation gods make your magic i need one of these :,(

@joeseeking3572 8 ай бұрын

Interesting - I'm in the middle of a purchase decision between BMW & Audi (but the mid-rangers - S6 and M550) Each would be spec'd with up level sound. I've driven/listened to the BMW but have not found an Audi yet. I think I prefer the BMW system, but after hearing this, I think the best it the Benz, though I'm not really looking at the E53 - I've never personally had a Benz and somehow it just doesn't 'feel' right - i.e. I am quite certain I am not rich, and shouldn't pretend to be. In any event while the S6 (as a vehicle) feels very capable, I am viscerally drawn to the M550 even though, optioned properly, there's enough $$ difference to make you think.

@abeljimenez9956 4 ай бұрын

Your screens are biking cu's of the shutter speed on the camera.

@simonmenyatso7337 9 ай бұрын

Burmester for the win

@snakeeyes9246 9 ай бұрын

That's why I want to get a Porsche Taycan with the Burmester system. Charlie hasn't tested it, or the system in the Panamera, but I bet they would get dangerously close to S Tier if they don't get it.

@v12-s65 8 ай бұрын

@@snakeeyes9246 they're better in the mercs

@snakeeyes9246 8 ай бұрын

@@v12-s65 don't doubt it, but I'm sure Porsche's systems are excellent too.

@humblesophos 6 ай бұрын

B&O is so hit or miss. I never trust their systems because too many of their sound systems are a fail. I know they CAN produce good systems just wish they WOULD do it more often!

@MrMentos876 7 ай бұрын

Me watching this w my '22 Jetta 🥲

@bandguymichael 8 ай бұрын

Listening to this reminds me of if I'm in the car listening to music and one (or both) of my ears is a little clogged with something. It's almost physically uncomfortable -- A clashing of my sense of feel and sound. I'd dare say that the balance is similar to that of a car with four woofers (or maybe four woofers and two tweeters). Edit: After listeneing to the comparisons, B&O should be embarassed. This system essentially splits the difference between the BMW/Merc and the Jetta. Granted, I'm sure the Audi would fare a bit better without KZbin compression. In terms of audio quality, maybe see what it's like on Floatplane and possibly add content there?