2024 Election Specials: 2. Immigration

[@acrodave9287]

Over the last 14 years the only thing the Tories have been taking seriously is the piss.

[@AndreaStobbart]

Bang on point

[@charliebryer2802]

Oh, now I’ll be using (stealing) that phrase over the next few weeks!

[@garryferrington811]

They've made a lot of money.

[@dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697]

The uni-party must go, did you watch the debate? Two prats arguing over different ways of achieving the exact same thing claiming to be better than the other. It was like watching two pre-teens argue over whose dad is the hardest, utterly pathetic drama queen performance from both of them.

[@acrodave9287]

@@garryferrington811 They took the piss because the client media allowed them to; the money they simply stole.

[@nmarks]

The Conservative's record in office... 1. Highest energy bills in Europe. 2. Highest taxes in 70 years. 3. Highest interest rates since 2008. 4. Highest train fares in Europe. 5. Longest waiting lists in NHS history. 6. Raw Tory sewage pumped into rivers. 7. Lowest corporate taxes in 50 years. 8. Lowest State Pension in Europe. 9. Highest Immigration both legal and illegal ever. 10. Destroyed the NHS dentist service. 11. Brexit. 12. One failed Prime Minister after another. 13. Worlds shortest in post Prime Minister which created a financial disaster. 14. More corrupt MP's than any other party in parliament. 15. Europe's longest Austerity for the lower paid. 16. Highest Council Tax rates in the World. 17. Reduced our Armed Forces more than any other G8 country. 18. Highest number of MP's that have been arrested for sexual offences. 19. Highest number of MP's that have been sacked for corruption and Fraudulent acts. 20. Voted to allow Bankers to have unlimited bonus's even though the bankers caused the crash of 2008. 21. More libraries closed due to council cuts than any other modern country. 22. Ruined and destroyed the Train services by giving private companies tax payers money as subsidies. 23. Voted against Labours creation of the minimum wage. 24. Wasted billions of Tax payers money on crony PPE contracts for their friends and other Tory donors. 25. Sold off 600 Police Stations. 26. Sold off our Courthouses. 27. Closed then sold our Fire Stations. 28, Failed to fix - repair our schools. 29. Cut spending on youth services. 30. Court backlog is at record levels 31. Threw 30,000 pensioners to the wolves during the first wave of the pandemic. 32. Sold off our electrical grid to foreign companies. 33. Failed to build new affordable homes. 34. Wasted billions on HS2. 35. Failed to close Tax Loopholes. 36. Failed to build 40 new hospitals. 37. Failed to repair our crumbling roads. 38. Forced many councils into bankruptcy. 39. Failed to address the 4 million children living in poverty. 40. Cut spending on mental health services. 41. Privatised and sold off the nations Post Office - Gas - Water and Electricity Companies 42. Allowed BP and Shell to steal our Oil and Gas reserves whilst paying little to no taxes. (Norway has a Sovereign Wealth fund of over $1.6 trillion). 43. Sunaks failed RWANDA policy has cost approx 500m. 44. Increased the pension age. 45. Failed promise to end rough sleeping. 46. Failed promise to end Leaseholds. 47. Failed to Ban No Fault Evictions. 48. Failed to ban so-called conversion therapy. 49. Failed in their Levelling up promise. 50. Introduced Voter ID excluding thousands from voting. 51. Introduced the bedroom tax. 52. Forced disabled people to jump through hoops to claim benefits. 53. Britain now has more foodbanks than McDonalds. 54. Tried to implement fracking. 55. Failed to invest in green energy and electric vehicle recharging infrastructure. 56. Our National Debt is now 3 Trillion. 57. Failed to prepare or have sufficient PPE for a Pandemic even when it was No1 on the risk register... 58. Given free reign in Non-Dom billionaires and Media owners to cause societal division and fuel racism. 59. Promoted lunatics like Cruella, Mogg and Patel to high office. 60. Blocked the Russia report. 61. Gave us the highest diesel prices in Europe. 62. Closed and then sold off our onshore gas storage tanks to high end developers making the impact of the invasion of Ukraine worse by increasing the cost of gas. 63. Tripled the cost of University fees for students and locked them in their digs during the pandemic. 64. Grenfell. 65. Windrush. 66. Increased our National Debt to 3 Trillion. 67. Partygate. 68. G4S Prisons. 69. We are giving 8 million quid a day to landlords for migrant accommodation due to the Home Office go slow policy. 70. Little to no Border checks on goods and foods. 71. Sold the Farmers and Fishermen down the river.

[@Greedygoblingames]

I need to take a copy of this list just in case I get some hapless Tory campaigners knocking on my door!

[@stuartstibbs2069]

....and the working class still vote for them.😂 Torys must be laughing their tits off.

[@stevegreen5552]

"Yes, but corbyn-putin-pandemic..." I despair at the intelligence of those who refuse to see the obvious when even a fraction of all this evidence against the cancervatives is flicking repeatedly at their noses.

[@simonparfitt8]

Wish I could copy that

[@MrSpleenboy]

This is a severely underrated and under-liked comment. Also, 71a. The river was full of shit because of #6... #56 and #66 a pretty much the same point, but it's so "good" it's worth mentioning twice!

[@HenOnWheels]

"Fear and resentment is not an immigration policy". Thats terrific!

[@SandraOke-sw2bf]

Thank heavens for Jonathan Pie! With all the lies, corruption and cruelty this is so refreshing and good to hear. I feel better and a bit more hopeful after listening to this intelligent, eloquent man!

[@algernonwolfwhistle6351]

Tories have to be judged on their 14 year record and it's not a good one.

[@rjcs2000]

Even Labour could not be worse, but still vote Reform.

[@Phuc_Yhou]

reform have not got an immigration policy, they're not going to fix the system either, ex Tories in reform clothing will just keep taking the piss out of you

[@SpookyFroot-bc5jf]

@@Phuc_Yhou Yep. Charismatic leaders with questionable intentions. And people will continue to fall for it.

[@bush_wookie_9606]

Yeah, but still better than labour 😂😂😂.

[@LightningStrikeify]

@@bush_wookie_9606 did you even watch the video?

[@Fraz725]

Pie v Sunak. Live TV debate. It would be the best television in the history of British broadcasting.

[@JSmith19858]

It would have to be on GB News so they could both read off their scripts

[@dohlecarnett1866]

Only if the format would work. Seriously, Starmer and Sunak are both not at fault for their performance when you have a shitty format that forces you to explain complex topic in 45 seconds.

[@CrashSable]

@@JSmith19858 Tom Walker is actually pretty good at speaking without a script. Obviously he uses one for these because that's the format but have you ever seen him in interviews about his career and creating Jonathan Pie?

[@JSmith19858]

@@CrashSable REALLY!!!!??!!!!1!!! I thought Mr Pie was a real person just riffing on the fly. There's no way what I said could have been a joke

[@samanthagarbettcharles4205]

Get George Galloway to debate sunak and starmer ...vote workers party..

[@jgreen9361]

So. Why has it taken 14 years to realise that the Tories in power is a bad idea? Each election the British public banged their head against the same door because they were afraid of any alternative. Not very intelligent was it?

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

Because Labour hasn't made themselves viable. Too busy talking about men being real women like any of us care.

[@gliddofglood]

It didn't take 14 years. I've known it was a shite idea for 40 but the dunderhead population keep voting them in!

[@jgreen9361]

@@TheFakeyCakeMaker Right wing garbage spreaders “all liberals/labour/democrats don’t know what a woman is”. Really? You are joking right? Please tell me you don’t believe that nonsense. You will be telling me next that 30,000 people in small boats mean you can’t see a doctor, afford to own a house or have a hip replacement. If that were true, why have over a million legal immigration visas been granted last year? Blame the “woke” because it can’t possibly be the fault of Michelle Moan or Liz Truss, or Brexit “no plan” Boris.

[@madgavin7568]

The Tories were in power for so long because Labour had some of their worst Opposition Leaders in history in Ed Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn. The latter of whom almost destroyed the Labour Party with his radical agenda and incompetent leadership.

[@mogznwaz]

Tories and Labour are just 2 cheeks of the same globalist Davos arse

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

I've been a nurse for ten years and I've seen the self fulfilling cycle of mass foreign recruitment multiple times. 1) We don't have enough nurses, it'll take at least 5 or 6 years to train up enough, better employ from abroad. 2) We don't need as many nurses now with all the overseas ones so its all fine. 3)Overseas nurses go home, 4)Oh god! we've got a massive shortage of nurses, it'll take a good 5 or six years to train up enough, better employ from overseas! 5)Oh look, we've got enough nurses now, no need to bother training our own. 6)Repeat It just saddens me because it should be an aspirational enough career with enough funding that we can train and retain homegrown talent. Talent that will choose to stay in (a properly funded) health service most of their working lives. It's so short sighted.

[@junglie]

it's just evil in action.

[@ktsf81]

You’re so right… and instead of address this in any meaningful way, they distract from the issue and just try to avoid it all together.

[@zoranblackie5921]

And perhaps pay their worth, as many clinical friends we trained on the NHS emigrate to places who value the expertise and training

[@zoranblackie5921]

@@junglie Short sighted yes, 'evil' no

[@adam7802]

I remember those bursaries, I knew people who became nurses using that and then they scrapped it..! Absolutely crazy.

[@powderedground78]

"look over here, look over here at these boats. Look at this problem WE'VE created" Absolutely brilliantly worded.

[@AndrewShakespeare]

There was a big hurrah a while ago about the tories massively reducing the ridiculous cost of housing migrants in hotels. A cost they they had agreed based on contracts they had given to their rich friends.

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

He also says that we should let in asylum seekers. Why should we do that?

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

How did the gov cause international smuggling gangs to make a fortune by bringing in many thousands of choosy economic migrants from Asia & Africa?

[@Ghurkinz]

Instability in the middle east was caused by Blair, Bush and then set alight by Biden. Look forward to Labors approach, you should check their policy page - more money to France and a people trafficking task force... brilliant, exactly what the Tories already do. These are not your saviours, they are the exact same thing in red. The "debate" told us everything we needed to know - they're both reading from the same hymn sheet. 😂😂😂

[@fbarnea]

​@@DavidZ4-gg3dm you are so close to getting it it's really sad to know you'll refuse to blow any information about this into your fear conditioned brain.

[@MindTheGap-lx9xb]

Your enemy does not travel by inflatable boat. They travel in helicopters and private jets.

[@Gooutsideforonce]

Sure… tell that to the victims of grooming gangs.

[@bb-ballistics1706]

Or the people been stabbed in broad daylight all over Europe...

[@AlexBell1991]

Rotherham residents and victims will probably disagree.

[@bb-ballistics1706]

Tell that to the people been knifed

[@francisariwaodo318]

​@@bb-ballistics1706Most knife crime perpetrators are British born

[@meh3247]

"Anybody capable of getting themselves made President, should on no account be allowed to do the job." - Douglas Adams.

[@ploppysonofploppy6066]

We lost Douglas too soon!

[@BrianV-ie4mw]

Too true. Bit like democracy being a terrible system...but it is still better than (most of?) the alternatives.

[@michaelrch]

@@BrianV-ie4mwshame we have so little of it 😢

[@Truffle_Pup]

Very cool and froody, you must be a real cool frood

[@ai-d2121]

Never ever underestimate the power of towels.

[@Beckford4000]

"Immigration hasn't been this out of control since the Vikings!" 🤣

[@mtrottier17]

Probably 😂

[@jasonleeuk]

I would argue that the Vikings probably integrated better as well.

[@ML6103]

​@@jasonleeuk They knew it was in their interests

[@TH-nx9vf]

Total Viking immigration : 15k in 300 years Illegal immigration in past 15 years: 400k Just saying.

[@nigelreed6819]

​@TH-nx9vf yeah but back then a force of a thousand men was a serious threat. Now it's not even a small football crowd

[@shimmime]

Absolutely on the money again, Jonathan. A voice of sanity in an insane world.

[@Chris-i0i0i0]

I love when he throws in some good facts alongside the polemic. That point about screaming about 30k immigrants arriving while they quietly shepherd in 1.4 million through visas is perfect. Its all slight-of-hand and obfuscation with modern politics, and for me, only Pie seems to be pulling back the curtain while also being hilarious. Keep revealing these truths. Keep being funny. I wish someone would broadcast this stuff on TV. More people need to see it.

[@Codex7777]

*sleight

[@thedudeabides3138]

His podcast “Call Jonathan Pie”, 10 half hour episodes, is the best satire I’ve ever heard (free on BBC sounds btw). To give full credit where it’s due, the Beeb allow themselves to be royally shat on despite their patronage. I just hope Channel 4 would snap him up for round 2 of the same, it’d be one of the best comedies they’ve ever produced.

[@donovanvaz3289]

What do you, and everyone else, mean by the immigration problem? Do you mean illegal immigration or do you mean legal immigration? If the latter, are you saying that legal immigrants are taking jobs from the British born people?

[@paulleonard1862]

The mainstream media are too scared to put him on TV.

[@Chris-i0i0i0]

@Codex7777 No, I mean "slight". You can Google that. It means "small in degree".

[@StopTheRot]

On a serious note, I was chatting to a reasonably senior civil servant who has worked for Boris, Raab and Patel. The Conservatives, apparently, deliberately don’t sort immigration because they need it as an agenda issue. Their calculations show (again, apparently), that they could employ 12000 people at £50k a year to process claims, for the same cost of Rwanda + boat + hotels.

[@bishbosh4815]

Im not saying what the Tories are doing is a solution, but if those people who are being deported to get their visas accepted, then that isnt cutting immigration is it??

[@jonathanmormerod]

In exactly the same way that the US Congress wouldn't approve a border bill because it takes away Chump's only talking point. I fucking hate politicians.

[@illegitiminoncarborundum8202]

@@bishbosh4815 Nor is the Rwanda plan ! Because it allows for Rwanda to send to the UK an unspecified number of their unwanted asylum seekers. So absolutely bonkers and merely gaslighting mister average voter.

[@bcgraham3512]

​@@bishbosh4815 How many have been deported, do you know?

[@neilsumner4575]

Yea it's straight out of the Trump playbook 😺

[@lolpl0000]

im a pole, living, for the vast majority of my life, in poland. i've spent nearly my entire life learning english, consuming american and english media, and honestly, this culture, language, all my friends being english speaking, i am madly in love with what i've learned over these past 27 years of my life. i've actually went to the uk for a total of around 8 months split between 3 trips. this was back before brexit. i actually wanted to stay - the higher wages and my mad love for the culture and language was enough for me to stay content - happy even. HOWEVER, mental illness decided to put a wrench in those plans and eventually, due to crippling, rising anxiety, i had to go back home. (i tried getting help in the UK but all i heard was "we're underfunded, we cant help you right now.") by the time i got medicated and received appropriate help and support, britain has exited the EU. and it leaves me with a question - would the UK, would its goverment, would it let me stay in the UK if i ever got the opportunity to do so again? would i be considered unwanted, unwelcome, etc etc? this is a question especially nuanced because i understand the right wing concern of immigration. anyhow, this is a genuine question i've posed to myself ever since getting proffesional mental help and the looming idea that i could one day travel to a place i so warmly reminisce of. i want your opinions on this, as i leave this question for the brits reading this comment. thank you in advance.

[@-----------g-]

Don't worry what others think. Live your life.

[@lolpl0000]

@@-----------g- i try to consider other people's voices. but also, my question was aimed at the government in particular. i dont know anything about immigration in post-brexit UK. and when it comes to people, i've had mixed experiences in my time abroad. some people were sweethearts. other people told me to my face that i am unwelcome. i had a bunch of british youngsters throw rocks and snowballs at me and my mom too. but this was in 2013. i just felt bad for my mom, which i couldnt protect. they were too many. i doubt it was a well meaning gesture. but like i said i consider what people say. im not ignorant. i try not to be.

[@ZROZimm]

Tories: "vote for us to fix everything Labour has wrecked" Weren't you in control the last 14 years? Tories. Never. Ever. Again.

[@dianeglanville]

you got that wrong Labour didn't wreked things try tories who wrecked anythink

[@dianeglanville]

everythink

[@jgreen9361]

Labour “wrecked things” by spending a bit more on hospitals and schools. Hedge fund managers actually caused the 2008 financial crash that wrecked things. (Yes, we are all looking at you Rishi). The Tories wrecked things by “getting Brexit done”, by paying millions to a Baroness with no healthcare expertise for useless PPE, by putting a lunatic at the wheel of the economy for the lifespan of a lettuce, and by selling off parts of the NHS to their mates. But things work better in private ownership? Tell that to sub post masters, teachers, anyone who uses a river for recreation.

[@TalesOfWar]

@@dianeglanville That's the joke. The Tories just constantly blame the last Labour government for everything being broken. Even now. You can get away using that line for the first few years maybe, but after 14? Nope.

[@CristiNeagu]

How about when Labour is the same or worse?

[@grahamcallaghan5429]

I just love this man!! I love him!!! Truth bombs every single time. Pie for PM!

[@Flip5ide]

For sure!

[@TheSnowdogsShorts]

I would vote for him.

[@jeffsimon9594]

@@TheSnowdogsShorts Luvvies like Pie lack the bottle to step outside the cosy world of show business and take the slings & arrows that go with standing for office.

[@lemsip207]

​@@jeffsimon9594It's much easier as a journalist or comedian as they have more freedom than a politician. Though The Mash Report in the BBC was stopped as it was criticising the Government too much. Sonia Poulton reported that she wasn't allowed much say when in the mainstream media. They allowed her to disagree on This Morning to make the mainstream media look impartial.

[@lemsip207]

​​​​@@jeffsimon9594He was an out of work actor. He once played Tom Parker-Bowles in a made for TV film about Prince William. His character appeared when Prince Charles wanted William to hang out with Camilla's children but they turned out to be a bad influence like the rebellious Eton boys were.

[@davidr1138]

I'm a big fan of Jonathan Pie. The messages, the delivery, the acidic humour. I agree with what he says. It does make sense. And then you ask yourself why doesn't this view prevail, why can't people think for themselves and not listen to political dogma? I've been trying to figure that part out for a long time.

[@cathlaurs9754]

Bloody well said Mr Pie 👍. This should be on national TV once an hour so all the numpties could see it.

[@barrywebber100]

5 minutes of total sense and truth from Pie giving everyone what the politicians don't! Great job Jonathan.

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

You agree with him that we should take in asylum seekers? People crossing the Channel to flee the war in France which ended in 1945?

[@barrywebber100]

@@DavidZ4-gg3dm Your comment is nonsensical.

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

@@barrywebber100 It's not. Many thousands of choosy economic migrants have illegally crossed the Channel, claiming to be refugees. They can't be fleeing France because of the war there that ended in 1945.

[@Hungrykittynomnom]

​@DavidZ4-gg3dm obviously didn't watch the video or you would see that isn't the point you flagshagger 😂😂 people without the capability to think for yourselves doing the job the government want you to do by punching down when the only danger is above you.

[@tembo4053]

​​@barrywebber100 you are far to polite 😂

[@millzee60]

From when Brexit was first announced I've been saying the only reason workers from other countries are here is because the UK government wants them here.

[@willoke8]

The economy needs them Not the government

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

@@willoke8 Immigrants fudge the statistics to make it look like they're doing a good job when they're not. We didn't need 6 million people in less than half of my life... I read a stat the other day saying 2/3rds of all Somalians in this country are in social housing. How in god's name is that a benefit to us? Tens of thousands of people who haven't paid tax living at the cost of already poorly funded councils tax revenue. Not only are British people being pushed aside with a housing crisis but people who have no reason to be here are being incentivised to come and live for free.

[@haraldschuster3067]

@@willoke8 - The economy needs them because the government doesn't like to invest in education. So they keep the education money and hand it to their friends and relatives for something useless like broken PPE, knowing there's always immigration to solve the shortage. And it will be a great thing to rail against in the next election: Double Win!

[@frankpaterson9786]

With the notable exception of lining their cronies and their own pockets the Tories have failed in every single aspect of governing the country.

[@Jakob_DK]

But that is the purpose

[@MicrophonesInTheTrees]

I live in Margate. We've been invaded by swarms of...middle class "creatives" from London. Since their penchant for town consumer fetishism, 2nd homes and Airbnbs has just made my rent go up 10%, that's the immigration I'm most concerned about, tbh.

[@Phuc_Yhou]

But that's Tory private sector investment creating jobs for you serfs to clean and maintain those properties you can't afford to live in.

[@jonathanmormerod]

Yeah. I hate "creatives" almost as much as I hate politicians. Have you ever noticed that when one ad comes on TV, an almost identical idea springs up for two or three others almost immediately? Creatives, my arse. Plagiarists is what they are.

[@Thomes-Maisling]

Look on the bright side. At least it's a bit safer round there now. I used to live in Cliftonville back in about 2008 but had to move out because I didn't feel safe there and found it depressing AF. They were some of shittest years of my life living there. I got burgled twice. Somebody even broke in while I was in but that's a long story. Some kids tried/failed to pickpocket me and, and some poor guy got asaulted and stabbed by a chav gang just accross the road from me. It left a big bloodstain on the pavement that seemed to take an unaturally long time weather away. Prob sounds like I'm exaggerating But I promise I'm not. I could even go on. Don't even get me started on my junkie Trashtown nextdoor neighbors and their shouty alcoholic teenage kids. Last time I stopped off there a few weeks back it seemed much nicer and safer round there. I agree though something needs to be done about people buying up needed accomodation just for Airbnb though. That shit's a blight that's killing communities all over the country and could screw up local economies in the winter. I see it happening in Whitstable down the road from me. As a decorator I used to get called out to so many Airbnbs round there I wondered how many people actually live full time on some streets.

[@Norfolkandchance886]

I moved up north to get away from them. You don't get many of them brave enough to come up here and mingle with the plebs eating pies.

[@mused89]

And having been born in Margate and growing up nearby, knowing what an utterly deprived and depressing cesspool it became a decade or so ago, I think it's wonderful that there's actually some money and economic activity to revive the town. General hatred of anyone "not from around here" is the moronic attitude I'm most concerned about, tbh. Hot Fuzz was a parody, but it nailed the localist nativism of towns and villages in England.

[@jcskyknight2222]

Well of course they haven’t. Immigration has been a gift to the Tories, why would they want to solve it?

[@PeppermintPatties]

They don't. They want a wedge issue.

[@sambadham1404]

They can't solve it without beheading the civil service. None of them have the courage to do what is required, immigration is just a symptom of the problem. Right now the government have no power, none.

[@Hypnotic-tist]

Mr Pie, you are incredible! Yes the system MUST be fixed and done with honesty, integrity and fairness.

[@bishbosh4815]

Will that increase or decrease net migration though?

[@BoojayDeeth]

@@bishbosh4815 Well we have a falling native population with a skills gap and any future government will be obsessed with "growth". So...?

[@danteuk8024]

Totally agree - but problem is 'honesty, integrity and fairness' not exactly qualifications of your average politician - most are Lying, incompetent and self-serving.

[@alexanderhowarth6460]

adorable naivete

[@alexanderhowarth6460]

@@BoojayDeeth "Net zero" as a policy is by definition antithetical to economic growth, so no

[@mautnorton]

Balls. I’d almost gone a month or so without remembering the insanity that was the Rwanda plan.

[@stewartlone3445]

In a country of breath-taking stupidity, banality, vulgarity and hysteria, 'Jonathan' stands out for the quality of his intelligence and his eloquence.

[@thenapoleonicwars]

Pie should chair the next leaders’ debate

[@wendysimpson6395]

Oooh I would watch that one!

[@davidkinsey4653]

That would be worth watching!

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

Why does he say we should take in asylum seekers?

[@thenapoleonicwars]

@@DavidZ4-gg3dm because that’s law 🤦‍♂️

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

@@thenapoleonicwars No, we're allowed to stop them. Since 20 July, illegal arrivals cannot claim asylum. Why do you think people fleeing the 'current wars' in Albania, Ghana & Vietnam should move to the UK as refugees?

[@Laura329]

I would love it if for one day you were allowed in Parliament to take Starmer's place and read Sunak and the Tories to filth! Hit them with the truth for one day and BBC Parliament's ratings would be through the roof!! 🤣 🤣

[@-Pol-]

💯

[@koelnkorrekt]

Surely there is some obscure medieval court office that encompasses this competence. Royal garden gnome torturer or something like that.

[@GothAtheist]

​@nevetsM5CS Nope. These things aren't "both" sided, no matter how much you want to think they are. Time and time again it has been proven to be very specifically one sided, the conservative side.

[@shahwiqarshahin2130]

Still wouldn't change anything. He'd sadly be seen as the court jester. He should run for politics though.

[@har3036]

Is there a petition to that effect I can sign?

[@wreython]

Brilliant Mr Pie. The REAL problem we all face - Politicians! Self absorbed, self obsessed, happy to climb over the mountain of corpsed promises en-route to personal gain. Unfortunately, when faced with the ability to wield absolute power to help and enable others, they ultimately use it for themselves.

[@alexanderhowarth6460]

this point-of-view is so widespread it's boring to hear repeated. However, hardly anyone has the balls to follow the train of thought to its logical conclusion: that the government should be abolished. Anarchy for the UK

[@CristiNeagu]

You call this brilliant? This "Oh noes, the Tories didn't do anything! Quick! We must vote for Labour! No, don't look at their agenda! Just vote!" rhetoric? You'd have to be pretty fast asleep to think Labour is going to fix anything.

[@rfedinburgh]

I always find points like this funny. What would you do? If you were a politician would you be honest? Don't hate the player hate the game and remember this game plays itself over every country on the planet Your description above could be used to describe 90% of humans, probably including yourself.

[@appstratum9747]

Yet again, JP hammers every nail on the head. A devastating summary of the truth. Dressed up as entertainment.

[@mattrix2007]

It is worse with Labour.

[@philthrelfall5294]

It is a real shame that Jonathan Pie does not get more main stream air time. His delivery manner and demeanour are right in the GB News, Mail, Express reader bracket, but the messages of truth would just blow their tiny worlds apart!?!

[@chrisholland7367]

Lol, because the establishment might not like the truth and see him as subversive.

[@ShiestyP]

why can’t all news be truthful like this

[@pottsy9143]

Rupert Murdoch might be able to answer that question

[@Hypnotic-tist]

He might decline or well you know call you a right wing nazi for even looking at him with that question in your head 😂

[@BoojayDeeth]

Because they as invested in the lie as the government.

[@diabolicalartificer]

@ShiestyP All UK newspapers are run by Billionaires with rightwing agendas.

[@billybob01234567]

People can't handle the truth

[@Anime-Face.]

Jonathan is a person of integrity and honesty, a rare trait in today's society.

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

Glad to see you are doing your part. Brutal, harsh, honest words, and so concise.

[@willtricks9432]

From a script that sounds nothing like a script, Pie is a genius.

[@tribacioustee2846]

Immigration isn't a race issue. It's a policy issue. Well put. Love the transition at the end there

[@bishbosh4815]

Lefties make it a race issue though because they think anyone who criticises immigration is a racist

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

But he's pro-asylum seeker!

[@tribacioustee2846]

@@DavidZ4-gg3dm Until I doubt Jon can tell the difference between an asylum seeker and an economic migrant, I won't hold that against him

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

@@tribacioustee2846 Asylum seekers usually are choosy economic migrants. No-one is fleeing the war in France; it ended in 1945.

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

@olliem40 As well as housing, religion etc.

[@vietashroffoliver2521]

Absolutely brilliant, says it exactly as it is. Riveting speech , thank you Johnathon Pie

[@vivburgess4300]

Perfectly argued and expressed. Thank you, JP. This is what the media should have been saying for decades.

[@glazierblue573]

When a comedian pretending to be a reporter, gives you the honest news and make more sense than the real media and government incharge, you know the country is in trouble. I wish Pie was running for office.

[@web-angel]

A comedian pretending to be a reporter would be talking about Gaza.... This is a comedian pretending to be a reporter while only being a repeater. 😢

[@WhiteCamry]

@@web-angel All politics are local. Gaza isn't local.

[@web-angel]

@@WhiteCamry You say that because you haven't yet realized just how local Gaza is

[@lidijaparadinovic679]

@@WhiteCamry you must not have listened to a lot of Pie. He has mentioned plenty of 'non-local' issues, the US, Trump, Ukraine, whatever you want. Unless you think all that is 'local', but something UK is funding along with the US and Canada is somehow not?

[@lidijaparadinovic679]

I thought this until I noted how thoroughly he is ignoring the issue of Gaza. He'd make as shitty a politician as the rest of them sadly.

[@RogerWhite-r4b]

Rock on Jon, the ONLY one person i would subscribe to, with his knowledge, insight, and totally candid approach to the fiasco we call politics today. Please keep gracing us with your brilliant monologues for ever!!

[@bobstephenson8747]

Absolutely spot on! About 50 % of my elderly father’s nursing home is staffed by people recruited by from Africa - they are all lovely, I don’t blame them for taking the opportunity offered to them, but the current govt is entirely disingenuous by actively encouraging them to come over on the one hand, and then blaming immigrants for all the country’s problems, stoking racism and xenophobia at the same time!

[@TheSnowdogsShorts]

Most of my carers are African, and I totally agree that they are wonderful people. They treat me like a human being, and genuinely care about me.

[@silversurfer640]

ALL carer's are underpaid and undervalued. F.F S. Pay them a fair wage and grant them decent conditions too.

[@pansepot1490]

That’s the paradox of Brexit. The very foreseeable result has been that white Europeans went back home only to get replaced by immigrants from farther afield with darker skin color. The racists who voted for Brexit must be thrilled!

[@Norfolkandchance886]

​@@silversurfer640but the care homes are skint they only charge two grand a week how could they possibly pay their staff more than min wage.

[@Norfolkandchance886]

I've got a Nigerian guy lodging in my spare room. Was doing a master's and works in care. Bloke is good as gold. Pleasure to have him. Been there well over a year. Never caused any trouble. Always pays his way. Is always polite and respectful. Leaves about half 5 in the morning gets home about 9.

[@terrypankhurst7601]

Passionate as always, and a message that millions need to hear.

[@snuscaboose1942]

Same problem in Australia, the real problem is legal immigration. Rather than train or educate we steal doctors and engineers from developing nations and invite the beneficiaries of corruption in non-democratic nations to hide and wash their gains in our property market.

[@Norfolkandchance886]

I mean you Aussies keep saying that but do you have entire cities that are basically only one demographic. Australia is huge and has a tiny population. You can handle it, we have had millions and millions come to our tiny little island that's fits into one of your states.

[@snuscaboose1942]

@@Norfolkandchance886 Which Australian cities are only one demographic?

[@Norfolkandchance886]

@@snuscaboose1942 can you not read?

[@TtotheCizzel]

@@Norfolkandchance886 most of Australia is completely unsuitable for human life but who cares about reality

[@outtheredude]

Oh! That's where all our doctor's and nurses have been going of late. From the UK, where much of the population has been reduced to living in developing nation conditions by a non-democratic highly corrupt regime.

[@xanthespace5141]

These hit hard, together with the BritMonkey video about the current state of Britain. Makes me angry at the Tories, and I'm not even British

[@Norfolkandchance886]

Labour are no better though that's the point. Labour abandoned their core vote a long time ago for the middle class. Why they never got in even though the Tories have been just as bad and now yeah worse. Now labour only seems to be pandering to a certain demographic who the working class are pretty sick of screaming on the high street every week about foreign lands. Labour ain't gonna do as well as everyone thinks.

[@robertbusch3368]

Love your character, Mr Pie. Mostly on the money. My only concern about your take arose when you linked the tacit acceptance of high immigration to an unwillingness to tackle shortages in "training our own", investing in infrastructure etc. As an immigrant in an immigration-heavy sector (uni, teaching and researching on health/social care-related subjects), training the next generation of workers who include many 2nd-generation immigrant folk, I have reason to believe immigration is, on balance, part of the solution here, too; the problems are rooted in demographics and chronic under-investment unrelated to immigration. The UK actually has a hidden success story in making immigration socially beneficial -- if only more politicians and comedians dared to tell it.

[@dfishpool7052]

Excellent rant Mr Pie and a brilliant synopsis of 14 year of tory mis-rule.

[@davidwilson1171]

On the money as always. All so true and tragic for us all. This government have crippled this country for decades to come.😢

[@MrSpleenboy]

Yup, and the Tories will blame the incoming government for it all (when they finally get dumped on their arses on the 4th of July), despite it being predominantly their own fault over the last 14 years.

[@lpfr77212]

All kidding aside, what an amazing social commentary. Love his blend of serious comments under the guise of comedy.

[@Writhty-rw6cy]

JP, absolutely spot on as ever, he should be an advisor to the next government.

[@gregmcivor6899]

This is how an actual politician should think!! These are the conversations that should be occurring in parliament!!!!!!!

[@CrashSable]

Should be, but won't be while we have a democratic system. Politicians are always going to care more about the spin and maintaining their careers than actually trying to do their job well. Trying to do your job well doesn't get you votes - lying does

[@LowPlainsDrifter60]

There lies the rub, politicians have outsourced their thinking to think tanks & advisors.

[@inaudiblenoise9668]

Jonathan Pie spitting straight up truth, keep these election specials coming

[@jjpower6769]

Ten out of ten for your political analysis. Ten out of ten for your flawless delivery.

[@fieldfpl7014]

"Flag Shaggers" 🤣

[@aidanfarquhar3331]

Very well stated. Keenly observing from NZ, less than a month to go! I may be in a minority but I'm happy to see Jeremy Corbyn running still... good luck to him. I wonder what the chances are of Labour having to form a coalition? Can't say I have high hopes for a principled approach by Starmer... what does he actually stand for? Seems a flipflopper. Good Luck UK

[@FredericScallan]

Brilliant brilliant brilliant,spot on as usual.your saying what everyone would like to hear say

[@sakeboersma]

From The Netherlands. Flabbergasted… bewildered… with recognition and pleasure! 👍🏻

[@Sally237-s4w]

Thanks Mr pie..you’re brilliant .the tories are nasty that’s fornsure xxx

[@and3583]

Idea is to increase demand for housing but not increase the supply. Result- Much richer banks and landlords

[@jeffsimon9594]

Yep

[@maneshipocrates2264]

Before Brexit immigration: less than 200K. After Brexit: 1000 000/ year.

[@aye3678]

Yet those fools who voted for the Tories and Brexit would do it again and again. They're so stupid, it has stopped being funny long ago.

[@bernabeu74]

that's some control

[@joeljamie9266]

Nothing to do with Brexit. All to do with the Tories.

[@thebagelsproductions]

Pre Brexit the French were obliged to help deal with the boats, but not any more

[@gHGhej]

And this how people abuse stats 🥲 Immigration was always going up because we were counting people in a new way, can anyone just think for a second? Like all those that had freedom of movement 😅

[@fordprefect.betelguese]

I really love a nice slice of pie.... genius ... no bollox truth, straight from the horses mouth.....

[@abfowlie]

I'd love to see you being a host on 'Have I got News For You!' You would be perfect for that show! Always entertaining and thought-provoking, thank you Jonathan Pie! 🙏

[@davidthomas4877]

The Civil Service should pay you for these brilliant rants, to show to every MP.

[@griffinbastion]

As someone who came to UK being able to vote, study and work, now as a permanent resident for over 5 years I've lost more and more of my rights as a legal migrant. They are controlling immigration, the immigration of intellectual people by making it increasingly difficult to live here.

[@BrianMartin-ph7pt]

So leave.

[@geemcd]

Ignore the idiots. They shout loud but they are a minority. I hope your life works out well, wherever you choose to live it x

[@quillo2747]

And yet every year more and more keep coming

[@joline2730]

Griffin: No-one asked you to come here, so if it's not to your liking you can LEAVE, but please don't expect sympathy from us because we have to live with it ‼️🙄

[@BrianMartin-ph7pt]

@@joline2730 Is the correct answer!

[@craigsmith2331]

Love you to bits jonathon, breaking the legal migration routes, punish the people who come, and i consider myself to be a centrist, but the world has a lot of problems, should we be the intaker for the entire world?

[@williamgeorgefraser]

Cameron didn't actually lie when he said he'd get immigration down to "10s of thousands". He just didn't say how many "10s of thousands". After all half a million is 50 "10s of thousands". He just lied when he used the word "down".

[@benwilson6145]

Lets see what immigration got us! Sunak, Cleverly, Patel Bravermouth, Farage Portaloo Johnston , what a win!

[@sebastianohalloran9093]

Well said regarding both the handling of asylum seekers and the 1.4 million who have been given visas and some of the reasons behind that. Thank you.

[@anthonycrumb5753]

It' s a sad fact of life that we need someone like Jonathan Pye to really say things that desperatly need to be said.

[@MrSpleenboy]

It's a sad fact of life when what should, by all rights, be satire is simply telling the truth!

[@TheSnowdogsShorts]

Up until 2015, the EU was often blamed for the problems that the UK government has to deal with. Since Brexit, the boats are now the new scapegoat. Governments always look to blame others, it rarely admits its own mistakes. I am directly affected by legal immigration on a personal level. I am disabled and have carers. English people rarely take these jobs, so foreign workers are needed to fill the vacancies. The company that I have, has about 200 carers. In the last 2 years, they have only had one English carer work for them. They quit after 3 days saying, “the work is too hard”. Up until 2015, many of those carers were from Europe, while now, most are from Africa, with a few from Asia. We are an aging nation, and do not have enough young people who can and are willing to look after us. Changes brought in by the current government are making it more difficult to attract carers to come here from overseas, meaning that people like myself, are in a position where it is becoming more difficult for us to be able to stay in our own homes. This in turn affects tax payers, as they will have to foot the bill, for us to live in homes, and at a much greater expense. I am in favour of legal immigration, for those who can work in areas where we have shortages. I am in favour of students from overseas, as it brings much needed money to our universities. I am also in favour of immigration for people who fall in love with people from other nations. My late wife was from the USA, and I learnt that getting into the UK is not easy, and that it is very expensive. Anyone who says it is easy, has never experienced our immigration system. It is anything but easy to get into this country, I can assure you of that. Also, for the small number of people who claim asylum, their cases should be dealt with quickly, this way, they either get to stay and pay tax, or have to leave. This way the burden on taxpayers is minimal. My points are not political, and are related to my observations and personal experiences. Also I am not a Labour voter, however I am not opposed to them forming the next government. Finally I would like to say, that my African carers, who are mostly from Nigeria, are wonderful people. They look after me incredibly well, and genuinely care about me. They treat me like a human being, and not just a client. They also spoil me rotten. Nothing is too much trouble for them. They remind me a lot of how people used to treat each other in this country many years ago. It is refreshing to experience this again.

[@-CS101-]

I can understand what it’s like about your late wife. Me and my girlfriend (from the USA too) are 21 and it’s a hassle and expensive, for her to get a visa, let alone to even try and work here in a full career, as all companies would have to deal with visa applications/troubles and would just prefer UK citizens than others from overseas. People from overseas are willing to work tooth and nail to make a living here… It’s a shame that, at some point in time, she just won’t have the money or benefits to live here with me and she will have to go back home. And I love her to bits.

[@TheSnowdogsShorts]

@@-CS101- My wife overcame the issues eventually, by her becoming a British citizen. Things became much easier after that. My daughter also married someone from the USA, and chose to live there instead, as it was much easier and cheaper than trying to live over here. In my personal experience, I find that English men and American women, make for the best couples. I have since found love a second time, with another American. She still lives in the USA. I wish you and your girlfriend all the best, and hope you have as much happiness and love as my wife and had living together in the same country.

[@TheSnowdogsShorts]

@@-CS101- just a thought, but if she got a job in caring or healthcare, she would be exempt from needing a minimum income to live here. It might be an option that is worth considering. Don’t ever give up trying to be together. My wife was deported one time, and she was originally not allowed to come back. But I didn’t give up. Eventually after 6 months of her being deported back to the USA, we managed to get the deportation overturned. Getting married in the USA helped our case considerably. Getting married in the UK does not help anywhere near as much, as they often suspect it as being a marriage of convenience, and this leads to being investigated by immigration.

[@-CS101-]

@@TheSnowdogsShorts oh no. It isn’t anything of healthcare workers, she studied for 3 years and maybe more if she’s willing to, to become a lawyer, or anything on that side of the spectrum. She’s especially more interested in human rights and environmental. So that… kind of makes things more difficult and annoying to find a job…

[@Norfolkandchance886]

I am a paver, I have to kill myself for a living. Hard work, construction is dangerous anyway cos the digger driver could be off his tits. When we left the EU my wages instantly went up. Should hardworking people just have accepted less money because you thought it was bad? Life is survival mate. I wouldn't do care work either. I slept next to my dad for months when he had cancer so he would never be alone. I wouldn't do care work out of principle. It's paid too badly. But people paying for the care pay a lot. How about having a go at the middle men instead of people who can't afford to live on min wage when they could quite easily afford to pay proper wage. I would have cared for my dad Indefinitely. Half the problem is people won't care for their own families. If they did like in other countries there would be no need for so many carers.

[@rollosinternet1853]

Totally agree, but please stop using the term "illegal immigrants" for asylum seekers. This term can only be used fir those foreigners who have no legal reason to stay in the country. Asylum seekers have that reason, can arrive by any means to the country of their choice to start their application. Saying that coming by small boat or that they have to apply in the first safe country is a lie, ignorant or malicious. Plenty of illegal British immigrants to the EU after Brexit, as they never registered for legal residence. To stop deaths and people trafficking in the channel, increase the numbers of officials dealing with applications, start the process in France as they have generously offered, create a safe route and make sure that they can work if waiting over 6 months for a decision, so they can support themselves. The Tories have created this issue and allowed people dying in the channel only to have yet another scapegoat while destroying the country.

[@jumbo994]

But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what HAVEN'T the Conservatives ever done for us?

[@adam7802]

Benefits! Don't forget what they did to benefits! Making it hard to claim benefits you are legitimately entitled to with arbitrary quotas to meet on rejections!

[@garethflower3403]

Sunak's making it up as he goes along.

[@JackOfski]

@@adam7802 No, they have made lots of foreigner's very rich off the benefit system that's why there isn't any left for british people, bit like when 68000 foreigners come to our unis on UK government grants they bring 48000 family members who claim benefits and help clog up the NHS, then when that 68000 have finished UK uni over 48% get to stay here then they bring the rest of their family's here.. but you keep your mind blinkered like a liebore fool. PS, tories aren't the answer either.

[@kikidevine694]

Governed

[@cheesedoff-with4410]

@lifesbutastumble You got better again I hope?

[@tehf00n]

If the choice is being put in a prison in a hostile country and being put in a prison in the UK, there is no asylum policy that will stop anyone in that situation. Same with warzones.

[@leonskum.5682]

Well said. Sensible conversation about any subject just doesn't exist between politicians or on T.V. It's like it's not allowed!!!!

[@dougsaunders8109]

An Election, great for new material….. every day

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

This corrupt Tory 💩 show has been a constant source of material, JUST NOT FOR THE BULL💩 JOKE OF AN ENGLISH MEDIA, NO WONER SCOTLAND IS LEAVING.

[@John-yi1mk]

The Tories have not had control of the Tories over the past 14 years.

[@Carewolf]

True, but that still leaves traditional Tory voters a choice between Labour and LibDems.

[@John-yi1mk]

Well I hope Tory voters abandon them and also The Reform company.

[@paashaasXD]

This stuff keeps me sane while I am not even from England. Although the problems described in your videos mostly apply to all western countries.

[@Boingyuk]

Thank you Jonathan Pie for making me realise that I’m not actual going fu**ing mad

[@massoudshafai2307]

Thank you for all the information you give us all❤

[@gilliancruise-johnston947]

Fabulous. Thank you, thank you, thank you. This video clip should be on the national curriculum for every school child.

[@jonathancroll3322]

You can tell he’s really going to enjoy the next few weeks. He’s just warming up🤣🤣👍

[@freddavies8725]

Why cant we have a political party like this , honest, straight talking instead of what we have got

[@macdodd]

Boy am I glad to see you back with your real look at the Tory problems

[@badwolf7777]

I do hope you hold Labour to the same degree of account, Pie. Their record in previous governments was also terrible, and their manifesto policies don't touch the underlying issues much either. We are too desirable a country, people flee through Italy to France and through France to risk their lives crossing illegally. The whole Rwanda thing is mental for sure. So how do we change this? Do we do like the French and push them on to Scotland or is there an answer beyond ranting into a camera? Because currently, Labour don't have one either. It will be more of the same.

[@MrSpleenboy]

1997 - 2010 was *orders of magnitude* better than this current shit show. They grew the economy more than Thatcher ever did (and Thatcher only ever grew the economy by selling off public services), and way more than the current ineptitude of Tories (I vote that either "Ineptitude" , "Corruption", or "Scandal" should become the new collective noun for a group of Tories). Also, wages grew more (both in "real terms" (i.e. when accounting for inflation) and in actual terms) under New Labour than they did in either the preceding Tory government (Thatcher/Major), or the ones that came after them. Currently, wages in real terms are the same as they were in 2010. Let that one sink in. Further, let it sink in that energy costs and food costs have far outstripped the baseline rates of inflation on which "real terms" wages calculations are made, so that means you're actually poorer now than you were in 2010. Even further than that, let it sink in that wages on average dropped in real terms between 2008 and 2010 due to the effects of the financial crash of 2008. As for the financial crash of 2008, current and ex Tory MPs were directly involved in it - see Sunak's involvement with the TCI team that took down ABN Amro and facilitated its sale to RBS, a move which was a direct contributor to the downfall of RBS and its subsequent bailout by the government. There were other current or ex Tory MPs (Zahawi and Javid spring to mind) that were involved in hedge funds and stocks at the time. All of this is documented fact. Finally, the next governments' (whoever that may be, although it's very likely to be Labour) first job will be to unfuck the entire country, thanks to the absolute carnage the Tories will have left them. 5 years from now, the Tories will be howling derision at the government at the state of the country, claiming that it's all the governments fault, trying to con the public into forgetting their own 14 years of utter depravity.

[@WATTSROBIN]

As far as I'm aware, their manifesto hasn't been published yet so how do you seem to know what's in it?

[@rickster9065]

Ha ha ha is that you James o brien? The immigration issue that is central to the collapse of our society, whether it be NHS waiting times, no available GP's, social housing shortages, no school spaces, increases in crime, anti white propaganda in all media was caused entirely by Blair and the Labour government with their open borders and 'equality acts' (which basically meant all minorities were immune from open criticism, except from white people) and every subsequent government was unable to reverse this (I'm not sticking up for the tories, they were useless) but I like the way you are already making excuses for the next (non tory) government for being unable to improve anything by blaming today's tories 😂 and ignoring that Labour caused this originally and the root cause is STILL not being addressed by labour in their manifesto is why the next (labour) government will see even greater collapse to this country. We all know why the uk is collapsing and according to you and other labour fan boys, it DEFINITELY has nothing to do with the 1.4 million uneducated, unskilled illegal migrants coming to the uk every year. I would love to quote you how much immigration is costing the uk in JUST social housing but yt don't like statistics so please go on to the (NOS) website to see for yourself.... it will blow your mind.

[@misslanapaulford]

Damn it Jonathan I've never had you in the morning before. This is new and unusual 😊.. I'll save you for tonight..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@paulpastor6567]

Brilliant analysis from Jonathan Pie

[@nickhaw3528]

Brilliant, just brilliant.

[@avarysse5782]

Is it just a coincidence that theUS has done the same thing? Why

[@codewick8985]

Yep. Both parties are going to import at record rates.

[@philthrelfall5294]

The classic response of any facist leaning regime, ie, find a minority group & persecute it. This distracts the great unwashed from seeing how bad things actually are in their daily lives!

[@JOHNTHEWHISK]

Sunak is trying to follow America in how he treats the disabled and vulnerable - appallingly

[@yorkshirepudding..]

Because both countries have been told to by the WEF.

[@pwimbledon]

@@yorkshirepudding.. I heard it was the RSPCA.

[@robertozgauk]

🤝 honesty is the policy of trust. Jonathan u have my vote future MP or PMinister

[@Rob-pq7mb]

JP has the passion and integrity all politicians lack, keep up the energy!

[@web-angel]

Why do you think he hasn't spoken about Gaza?

[@winterbliss4459]

@@web-angelhe has but okay

[@web-angel]

@@winterbliss4459 Has he? I can't seem to find any evidence of it. 🤔

[@OneEyedDronie]

Immigration hasn't been this out of control since the Vikings invaded!!! CLASS!!

[@simonyankey763]

Love this guy, tells it how it is every time.

[@AlexSmith-nq6uc]

This man is a veritable gem. Well done, Mr Pie, as ever!

[@stuc3195]

It is laughable when people say it'd be worse under Labour 😅 How can it possible get any worse than where its headed right now....

[@anthonylulham3473]

Please dont say that, youre tempting fate. Though I am a strong believer it will get wayyyyyy worse before anything interesting happens. no boogaloos for a few years.

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

The economy could worsen, as could the crime rate, homelessness etc.

[@rewdwarf123]

Considering there are a lot of worse countries around the world, it's certainly possible.

[@pagatryx5451]

Tories say they're going to fix x problems and don't. Labour openly support the problem.

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

It could be worse, things can always be worse.

[@GayFrogsTho]

Neither Labour or the Tories have the stomach for a frank conversation on immigration. It's a problem and it's not just going to go away.

[@wolfen210959]

The problem of immigration was deliberately created by closing all of the legal immigration routes, and making it difficult for Europeans to remain in the UK after Brexit. So approx 400,000 European nurses, doctors, engineers, etc, left the UK and went home, suddenly we had shortages of trained personnel, because the Tories decided, in 2014, that we no longer needed to train our own nurses, doctors, engineers, etc. We have almost a generations worth of untrained teenagers, because the Tories did not want to train them, those teenagers were "encouraged" to take low paid, low skilled jobs in call centres, fast food outlets amd the gig economy. The answer, for the Tories, was obvious, they started importing trained nurses, doctors, engineers, from Asia and Africa. We simply must begin training our own nurses, doctors, and engineers, or the problem of immigration will never be mitigated. Oh, and opening a processing centre for asylum seekers in France, as the French have repeatedly offered, must be done. If only 400,000 trained personnel were effectively sent home in 2021, why do we now have 1.4 million work and student visas being issued? What else are we not being told?

[@GayFrogsTho]

@@wolfen210959 I agree with you that Brexit was very poorly managed, but immigration was an issue way before. It was one of the biggest drivers of the Leave vote to begin with.

[@fara2546]

Spot on! Most cafes bars restaurants supermarkets shops banks buses tubes trains staffed by immigrants!

[@jhwheuer]

😂 since the vikings

[@Outside85]

And when they were done, a bunch of people in boats came across the Channel from France and never left.

[@saranac66]

As an American whose country isn’t handling immigration any differently, and failing just as miserably, I listen to Jonathan Pie nodding yes all the way through. OMG.

[@borisjohnson1944]

Ditto for Australia. I think "Stop the boats" was one of our brilliant slogans.

[@anthonyr587]

"failing" isn't whats happening in America. The current Democrat admin has successfully created the crisis they want. They want mass immigration and future generations of voters. This is why they spent all their energy suing Texas than actually slowing down immigration. They want it. Biden signed the most executive orders in history when he got into office, removing all Trumps immigration safeguards. His numbers make Obama and Trump look like small fry. It's by design Sara.

[@paulbrown9009]

I love this guy he's always on the money keep up the good work tell it how it is

[@thejonnybell]

I wonder if net migration has increased not because more people are coming here but more people are fucking off because this government is an utter shit show...

[@rewdwarf123]

No, because there are still a lot more coming in than leaving.

[@johnmatthews1095]

oh plenty do. my wonderful colleague just went back to Romania because the cost of living here was too high