The Gender Pay Gap

[@timothytobersson6660]

“We can’t use any of this, this isn’t the narrative” - never a more accurate statement on modern life

[@markios6824]

Sounds like CNN

[@happychappers8311]

@@markios6824 Or the BBC

[@markios6824]

Happy Chappers haha yes I completely forgot about those fkers

[@thomasball5432]

@@markios6824 any mainstream media to be fair. Everyone has a narrative they want to promote.

[@markios6824]

Thomas Ball it's not even funny when you have men knighted,men like jimmy savil or Sir Noncealot What do woman get?

[@DocX1000]

*So what you're saying is....*

[@andyderbyshire519]

Ha ha that is never going to die.

[@zeszen]

Doc X get out 😂😂😂

[@josephwehbeparis]

Hahaha!

[@EverSinceMyExorcism]

Ha! Gotcha!

[@blaghmrblafh4348]

YOU ARE A LOBSTER!

[@A-Duck]

"You haven't read a word of my book, have you?" "I've read.. about it" That just perfectly sums up the horrible state of affairs in modern political discourse...

[@therealpatrick]

except that the book doesn't exist...

[@Scientificmethods]

it's a fake book - He's supposed to represent the mainstream narrative and she tears his arguments down with actual facts and logic.

[@A-Duck]

Im curious what it is about my comment that either of you think indicates I had trouble grasping the concept of the video? Yes, the book is fake. His whole character is an act. The interview is an act. These things are painfully obvious, and I never said anything to suggest I believed otherwise. C'mon guys, Im trying really hard not to say "no shit, Sherlock" but you aren't making it easy.

[@therealpatrick]

@@A-Duck ahm. yeah...

[@A-Duck]

@@therealpatrick Indeed.

[@danagray9709]

"You think that's funny!?" "See, now you're sounding like a feminist!"

[@AxxLAfriku]

GAGAGAGAGAAGAG this is wonderful! PRANK! It is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. GAGAGAGAG! But I am happy again because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I make cool YT videos with them! Good evening, love and peace, dear sana

[@apeachonahill8059]

@@harmonicwaters did you even watch the video

[@stein1885]

@@AxxLAfriku Oh look its AxxL

[@isaacogden6416]

she said “you think that’s funny” when she directly laughed before hand 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@isaacogden6416]

😂

[@danparish1344]

Buy her book! I hear it’s only 76% of the price of books written by male authors. 🤣

[@caidyno]

that’s so funny. haha.

[@robertcunningham1695]

Legit lold

[@Tomer_Zaitsev]

Lagit if not for the crying face this would have been one of the best comments in this comment section

[@davest.clarejones930]

Now, that is comedy gold

[@forcedcomedy9912]

You don't deserve a like because of that emoji

[@DefrankedChannel]

Amazing sketch. Clicked the video and thought it would be of some dude "owning some feminazi with facts and logic" but was absolutely pleasantly surprised

[@PacificDaneOfficial]

But you know thats what the dudes do in those videos. They own feminazis with facts and logic. Because 3rd wave feminism isnt based on logic, its based on victimhood and feelings.

[@morganmcgovern3125]

Same though

[@baconsalad9743]

Doesn't matter if you got a dick or a pussy, all that matters are your arguments.

[@mirceadonciu4983]

Just a small question, cause I'm not really familiar with the subject. Wasn't third age feminism back in the 80's about various social right like paid maternity and such.

[@Nutmegheart]

@@mirceadonciu4983 that was second wave

[@aguspuig6615]

*whispers* "I thought i was interviewing a feminist" I am a feminist! God i think its the first time i heard feminist in an epic empowering manner and ive rooted for it

[@aguspuig6615]

I didnt get to expirience theat part of feminism im kinda young so this video is one of the only good feminism examples o have

[@16m49x3]

@erni muja Feminism has always been destructive to society :P

[@16m49x3]

@erni muja Feminism back then was led by rich women you mean. Women with more power in society than 60% of the population, women or otherwise. Back then only 40% of men had the vote. 100 years earlier, only 1% of men had the vote. These women were the wives and daughters of the men that had had the vote for centuries. And if you are to suggest to me that they did not have the power to sway their husbands and fathers votes. Then you think very little of women. These women had many freedoms to do whatever the hell they wanted. Some women were forced into political marriages, yes. But so were a lot of men. That's about the worst thing that happened to them. Back then having a job meant working 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. In a factory, in a field or some other harsh, demeaning, or otherwise backbreaking job. Or of course you could go die in war as a soldier. The women back then did not want those jobs. And I dare say nobody today want them either. The women that were not the daughters of rich people. Actually much enjoyed the arrangement of men doing labor and the woman taking care of the house. Because women had it better... Have you heard of the anti-feminists? They were equally as many as the feminists. But of course they didn't have the social power, nor the time really to go about complaining. They were poor (according to our standards) and had things to do. In Britain women got the vote in 1918, the same year men got the vote. Men had been fighting for the vote for 150 years at that point. And was given it because of their duty to fight in war. And because of the huge amounts of men that died in WW1 without suffrage. Women got the vote too. Just because... Women joining the work force happened after the laborers had worked for ages to improve working conditions. They had negotiated down the work hours to 8 hours a day and finally the work life balance of the poor was also evening out. The women joining the work force of course upended that. Because now, instead of a family having one man working 40 hour weeks. you had two adults working 40 hour weeks. And the same family didn't even earn any more money than they did before. If it isn't immediately obvious to you, this means you have 40 hours less as a family to spend on taking care of the house and children. If the feminists actually cared about society. They would have negotiated with the government, not only to "let" them into the work force (The government was thrilled about having women in the work force) They would have leveraged their work against bringing the working hours for men even lower.

[@aguspuig6615]

@erni muja yeah that makes sense, anyine with two braincells would see that women have it as easy or more than man nowadays, their work on that is done so only the dumb ones are left i agree. Hehe see what i did there? "Left" *gets banned from youtube*

[@16m49x3]

@erni muja I guess you havent heard of the suffragets that went around shaming men (that didnt have the vote) into joining the war. While they campaigned for their own vote. Not for the vote of the poor

[@nielsssg]

Unfortunately I can't convince my step mum who hasn't worked in over 20 years

[@brandondowse6326]

Lmao

[@SpeedyCorky]

@Son Goku rich from a prior marriage where she got a great portion of her ex-husbands money upon divorce - i'd bet my bottom dollar. or came from a rich family and never really worked in the first place

[@seanmartin8465]

Even my mum gets angry when I relay these points, her partner worked 12 hrs a day while she stayed home, it’s hard to change your opinion when it means you have to take personal responsibility

[@MT-qt9mw]

"not gonna lie, they had us in the first half"

[@kringekevthegamekat]

Why would they film him picking his nose then shaking her hand . If they didn’t do that I would of been fooled too

[@JosephKulik2016]

It looks to me like this is all a hoax. I couldn't find this book on Amazon, and I couldn't find any other YT video about it either.

[@djp14nt]

lol. Its a comedy sketch. Genuine people and rational view points do not promote social division, and consequently do not get airtime. Look up 'Divide and Conquer' and think how could someone apply its key principles to our society.

[@davidthompson6834]

@@JosephKulik2016 you are so guillble

[@emptyblue6530]

@@JosephKulik2016 It's... almost like Jonathan Pie Is a comedian...

[@burger5082]

“Can’t say fuck”

[@maelglorious]

Fuck that.

[@nimbusws5946]

hipocrite

[@Yungrexy]

bit of Alan Partridge in there... Partridge Pie :p

[@markgullick1725]

I love the way Pie always looks like he has a crushing hangover.

[@Coproquim]

Art imitating life lol

[@metallkopf988]

He probably has... probably only getting absolutely hammered every night in a pub would make life bearable to a person like him...

[@WatchingtheWorldBurning]

He's a comedian. Of course he does...

[@lunaflamed]

Or mad withdrawals

[@Goady1000]

That's because he's rich and that is what he does in his free time lol

[@25kirtan]

"Aren't we supposed to be interviewing a feminist" cracked me up😂😂

[@JohnDoe-bm5lp]

"You turn them into victims... is that really empowering them ?" Very well said

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

Is saying that there is a problem turning them into victims?

[@Gentleazi]

@@Ray03595 it was a joke rofl stfu

[@Gentleazi]

@@Luke47895? its still a joke u peanut

[@daveffs1935]

Haroo haroo haroo

[@ChrisRayGun]

This is great!

[@15tefera]

Get back to making videos

[@sophieclements908]

Fancy seeing you here!

[@TC_Hill]

Shouldn't you be working on videos that will never be released?

[@halfapersonalityaquarterof9871]

Chris Ray Gun hell yeah daddy I’m sorry 😐. You’re somewhat decent.

[@scarlettt.s9822]

Oh hey I agree

[@kublaikhan9602]

Googled the book and author on the offchance that they were real. Decidedly disappointed to find that they weren't. I guess this is how Pie would have to present these arguments to avoid being called sexist though. Good job Pie.

[@surfingmoose]

Guessing not this person: www.amazon.com/Melissa-Stevens/e/B008H4LM8K

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

Vicky Caramel Because feminists run literally every single publishing company in the country?

[@M6nst6r6]

Try one of the Christina Hoff Sommers books, pretty sure she is what you looking for.

[@aesopstortoise]

Pie interviewing the author of Released by Desire: City of Sin, would have been a different kettle of fish altogether I think.

[@e-hr5314]

how about Camille Paglia?

[@elityre2710]

Man, I'm starting to get a crush on the feminist. I appreciate standing for something, while not getting carried away into falsehood by the thing you're fighting for.

[@holymaryfullofshit3790]

yeah thats real feminsim right there. and thas fucking sexy. because shes a self possesed, intelligent and strong women. she doesnt need anyone to tell men or her that shes equal shes proving it in everything she does and says and in the way she carries herself.

[@jimmytumbles9640]

@@chrishoppner7875 I think that's the point; she isn't, she speaks for herself. **self satisfied grin**

[@elityre2710]

@Benjamin McCann Speaking only for myself, I was referring to the fictional character, yes.

[@jimmytumbles9640]

@Benjamin McCann No this is what feminism used to be. Christina Hoff Sommers is worth reading if you want a model of feminism before it was hijacked by bigots.

[@amedaius8492]

She's smart and cute. IE my strike zone.

[@wce4eva843]

'To suggest that a woman can't form her own opinion - that is real misogyny' - big oof there!

[@fordcabriogt]

well that's kinda the case for most women today who when given freedom choose to murder their own unborn babies

[@Ltpwnface]

fordcabriogt murder is illegal

[@fordcabriogt]

@@Ltpwnface obviously not considering how many millions of abortions are being done every single year

[@Ltpwnface]

fordcabriogt no, reread the definition of murder. They would be arrested if it was murder.

[@fordcabriogt]

@@Ltpwnface stopping a human heartbeat is murder

[@uneducatedandopinionated8936]

“7 out of 10 people are wrong” I find myself saying this often.

[@evaahh9584]

Tom Byrne tell that to ages ago and they’d think it’s about the flat earth.

[@MGX93dot]

I always liked it when people use that argument. "How could X amount of people be wrong?" where X = a large amount. Now take religion. There's what, 1 billion Muslims? Probably also a billion Christians? Both can't be right. Now we have (at least) 1 billion wrong people.

[@Scootenfruity]

That is because facts can't be opinion based. You can ask how many people in believe in somethin purely because you want to know what people believe, or how up to date the population is. But what somebody believes changes nothing in facts.

[@ayporos]

"Imagine how stupid the average person is... now imagine that half of the people out there are even stupider than that" - George Carlin

[@notlikely4468]

And 6 out of 7 dwarves....aren't Happy

[@DragAmiot]

This was absolutely on the mark. The tone, timing, chemistry and both performances were perfect. Nailed it.

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

CryptedSky, not to forget the actual arguments themselves, which is the real gold propped up by the factors you mention

[@aspacelex]

tobo86 Yeah, he kicked the shit out of those strawmen.

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

a lex, which specific strawmen are you referring to?

[@poorgamer1095]

@@EmperorsNewWardrobe 75 cents on the dollar mith id wager

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

Poor Gamer, gotcha

[@isentient666]

The truest feminist I’ve seen in a LOOONG time. This is simply great.

[@MattRoszak]

>Reads the title This is gonna be good.

[@MatteV2]

Oh its gorgeous

[@hysteria7755]

Boi where’s EBF5

[@AH-be6bu]

I knew it would be good, but I wasn’t expecting it to be that bloody good.

[@stephencody6088]

Unfortunately this doesn't apply to the US.And before everyone freaks out it's been proven that women in white collar jobs here make less than a man doing the same job,same thing for our melanin enhanced friends.A prestigious American University sent identical resumes except for gender and race and guess what?Women and brown folks were routinely offered 10-20% less than their identical white male counterparts.American's are encouraged never to talk about how much they make,precisely for this reason.It's illegal here too technically,but that's never stopped a corporation before.The other observations are valid,but don't cover it all here.Maybe the UK's different.

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

Stephen Cody exactly, except a few points. It's "sort of" illegal to base pay on gender and race, religion, etc but the onus is on YOU the employee to find out and prove it within a short period of time, otherwise, it's Too bad, so sad. That's what the Lilly Ledbetter Act was supposed to fix:"the clock didn't start until you found out. But, on drumpf's obsession of all things Obama, he undid the Ledbetter Act. Also, to add to what you were saying about white collar professionals and the wage gap, there was an additional study about the wage gap in the medical field. Even with EVERY option the same (IE: Same college, same GPA, same title, same field of medicine, same hospital, etc) except gender, men were on average paid around $12,0000 more per year than their female counterparts. A KZbin channel Healthcare Triage did a great video on it, with all sources linked and provided.

[@MrZriael]

"This is not the narrative" ahahahahahaha got me

[@tmrv2974]

MrZriael “you think you’re being funny” “NOW you sound like a feminist” That’s the one that made me snort.

[@uegvdczuVF]

"Hang on there, i'm on your side!" lol

[@leetledrummerboy]

"Do you think this is funny?""See now you're sounding like a feminist." Lmao too good 😂😂😂

[@tanngrisnir69]

That interaction was so funny my balls fell off 🤣

[@filip1775]

Prick!

[@nobody4603]

Here’s a feminist I can see eye to eye with.

[@andreas4270]

@Benjamin McCann That´s acually sad. If you want to have a reasonable feminist, you have to write her/him

[@radiocorrective]

@@andreas4270 Sorry that aint true cause I'm one and I think exactly like this. And I sure hope im not a made up sidecharacter in your story rn lmao

[@lelobster8935]

“Do you fancy going for a drink after?” .... “Okay”. Hahahaha

[@olivebirdy2150]

Pie didn't make much of an attractive showing in this. Unless this woman gets off on dominating small men.

[@memoryhero]

He's got that 1000 yard stare like it's an execution but still says okay. XD

[@svensvenkill]

Olive, I think the joke is that she's an empowered woman who doesn't have an issue being assertive and asking a man out, not that he's a small man. No? I mean, does he have to be a small man and she have to be some kind of dominatrix for that to work?

[@TsunTzu]

What's wrong with a bit of femdom anyway?

[@svensvenkill]

Whatever you're into, fella. No worries. :)

[@nickybyrne4961]

I was upset to find that this woman and book are a parody, as I instantly fell in love with her.

[@gringochucha]

The book is fake, but I don't think her character is a parody. Yes, it's fictional, but it's also the "serious" voice in the discussion. He's supposed to represent the mainstream narrative and she tears his arguments down with actual facts and logic.

[@justaguy798]

*cringe*

[@deztructo123]

@@gringochucha facts and logic? against the narrative? She must be alt right.

[@nickboyd81]

there is a feminist like this her name is Camille Paglia

[@melisandre6324]

@Rikka The Second The only difference criminalizing abortion makes is that it kills the woman too.

[@dustindark4478]

They don't make the perfect woma....

[@asparrow9876]

LOL. Seriously she can get the D just for that brain.

[@owenbenjaminshapiro6285]

She instantly became a billion points hotter when she revealed her true colors

[@crissdarkk]

Perfect is too strong a word. She clearly has an eating/glandular/hormonal disorder. I'd smash though

[@metas1779]

Jonathan Pie always proves that comedy is the best way to convey information.

[@mutley66]

Meta/s more like its the only way we can digest information.

[@brucemacallan6831]

'Fancy going for a drink after?' That's it. That is the whole point. She captured it perfectly. Fucking Brilliant.

[@someenglishguy..]

Fucking howled that that line haha

[@jorymayer707]

These two people are beyond great. There's no words for how amazing this piece of content is.

[@tll23]

Can someone plz ensure this video gets to Cathy Newman???

[@cpgvonc7568]

So you're saying Cathy Newman shouldn't be allowed to watch other videos?

[@tll23]

CPG VonC 😂👏🏻👏🏻

[@therocketboost]

So you're saying KZbin is full of lobsters?

[@HalendleofLoc]

So you're saying Cathy Newman can't find this video by herself?

[@kevbarker8108]

So ur saying women cant use youtube?

[@Laura-Yu]

See if most feminists were really this reasonable, I’d call myself a feminist

[@MsChitterchat]

로라 [Laura] Some of us are!

[@Whoami691]

All the this. Feminism is not about equality anymore. I USED to be a feminist, then I opened my eyes and saw that they are currently shitting on all the changes first and second wave feminists fought so hard for. It's disgusting. I'm not a feminist because I believe everyone should have the same oppotunities.

[@Gredddfe]

At this point I advise people to say they fight for gender equality, instead of saying they're a feminist. Just drop the term altogether, because you can get away with saying a lot of dumb shit as a feminist (patriarchy, rape culture, etc) but since the only actual gender issue in society is equality, let's just talk about gender equality.

[@Laura-Yu]

MsChitterchat I’d say the real battle for you is not the people who claim they’re not feminists but the idiots who claim to be feminists and tarnish that label. Good luck to you-

[@Laura-Yu]

Gredddfe I mean most people already are, for me I really can’t find any government policy that distinguishes sex that majorly cause unfair opportunities in the US. Honestly the only women-related rights I can think of in the US is abortion (which for me I’m pro choice). Of course other countries may need to work on their gender equality. But yeah, I don’t call myself a feminist, that term has been poisoned and I have no motivation to fight for that label.

[@almcdonald8676]

Pie has now assumed the role of the nations jester. He fearlessly tells the truth

[@Roescoe]

/ Pewdiepie

[@spacebum]

Unfortunately, it could soon be off with his head if free speech is totally eroded.

[@kayomn]

/ Keemstar

[@Roescoe]

Lol keemstar lives in America. Pewdiepie, Sargon and Pie live in the UK.

[@joepaechter8316]

LeadFaun Sargons an idiot that cant read his own source, he’s not a man you want to be arguing your point of view.

[@CassidyCope]

This was 50% quieter than 95% of Jonathan Pie videos.

[@doctorpsychokiller4571]

Interestingly, my favourite video of his is his quietest video. That video being "There's nothing wrong with Jeremy Hunt"

[@creadishcread2243]

And all the better for it!

[@DaWozzMan]

+Doctor Psycho Killer Jeremy ....... Hunt

[@awkwardsaxon9418]

Casi Paul waited for him to start screaming the whole time😂

[@doctorpsychokiller4571]

"You wouldn't call him Wizard Jeremy, would you? And you certainly wouldn't call him... *Mystic hunt*"

[@IceZachara]

"Do you think this is funny?" "See now you're sounding like a feminist" I laughed. A lot.

[@SineadLaws]

My favourite line!

[@Felix-Sited]

Do you fancy going for a drink after?

[@tariqsaleh618]

Clever and strong. This is the feminism society needs. I admire her !!

[@Jason-ub4ui]

Yeah I hate feminism but yeah I admire her too

[@themk4982]

Fun Fact: If you want to get paid as much as someone in another job, the best course of action is often to get that job

[@ranz0u]

But in many circumstances, a woman can get the same job as a man and still be paid significantly less. Also, they can't get those jobs usually. About 6.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are female. that's not through lack of effort on their part, I can assure you.

[@AlbatrossCommando]

again paying them less is illegal if they get payed less its because they dont work as much hours they dont take extra hours they dont have flexible schedules they are less likely to ask for promotions they are a million and one reasons and sexism isn't one of them as to there only being 6,4% of women in fortune 500 companies most women dont want to dedicate their entire life and any opportunity for family to their job and most women are less assertive then most man

[@ranz0u]

Zaper yes it is illegal and it's still happening. Companies break the law all the time. That's why there are so many lawsuits against them and they are successful too. Also there are plenty of women who are prepared to work just as many if not more hours than men.

[@gicky-gackers]

ranz0u >"Also there are plenty of women who are prepared to work just as many if not more hours than men." Yeah, but on average, women work less hours than men. >"About 6.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are female. that's not through lack of effort on their part, I can assure you." Women have wombs, they are the ones who take significant time out of the workforce to have babies and breastfeed them. This obviously effects their careers. Men don't need to disrupt their careers like this because they don't have wombs and breasts.

[@RAMSEY1987]

yes it is

[@ans2810]

She got more attractive the more she spoke.

[@harrylong2796]

Ikr I was in love by the end

[@amanko1357]

Intelligence is attractive.

[@tommyarnold4392]

I just scrolled down to write this exact comment!

[@thegrandmuftiofwakanda]

I like her big fat wobbly arse.

[@JohnDoe-bm5lp]

Lord Samich she's also right

[@denisshaw1]

Pie just gets better and better!

[@martalevin4829]

"do you think this is funny?" "now you're sounding like a feminist"

[@ravenvalentine4919]

lawl

[@MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs]

This was unexpected and beautiful! Gotta love this man for denouncing the bigotry of the right and the hollow political correctness of the left!

[@vidiveniviciDCLXVI]

"hollow political correctness of the left" Fuck off I'm on the left of centre and I find this piece bang on, not all lefties are retards you know, most of us don't buy this shit at all. Don't paint us all with the same brush.

[@civilowl965]

"denouncing the bigotry of the right and the hollow political correctness of the left!" Smug, inaccurate false equivalence. It doesn't make you somehow enlightened to see through the transparent bullshit of the far left.

[@triumph2992]

Daniel Jones, I'm finding it hard to believe that you're even close to the centre when you get upset over a comment like this. They DIDN'T paint all those on the left with the same brush. The comment didn't say "Of ALL those on the left", only that hollow political correctness is a virus FOUND on the left. And you can't deny that. The commenter was also critical of right but you didn't say "not all righties are bigots you know". Seems like your identifying with a tribe instead of trying to remain neutral.

[@bigboi4743]

There are a lot of people that say they are left but they arent

[@therunner174]

Daniel Jones yeah and not all people on the right are bigots so chill

[@HerrSheeps]

I've always liked Jonathan Pie, even when I disagree with his position. This has taken my respect for him to a whole new level. #freedankula #grosslyoffensive

[@GameFreak7744]

He's just really good at articulating normal, old school, liberal lefty values. =P

[@PrimalBanana1757]

and a 7 minute video just taught me more about feminism and the "pay gap" than the MSM has in 35 years. well done Pie :)

[@melchristensen8282]

Yeah, the problem was never the 'pay gap' specifically, it was always the underlying issues that foster specific environments and/or systems that promote issues inclined to marginalize or dissuade women from entering the workplace to the same extent as men. So. Basically, what the vid said.

[@allamericanslacker2378]

@Mel Christensen That's not actually accurate. All it takes is looking at statistics of which gender does what job in countries like Sweden to see that the opposite is actually the case where the more egalitarian the society is, the sharper the gender divide becomes with regards to which jobs people take. In other words, the more sexist a society is, the more likely you are to see women striving for jobs, careers, and positions that might be viewed as "men's work".

[@scocassovegetus]

Ha ha, like environments where one has to work hard, sweat, get dirty, lift heavy things, endanger themselves, and so forth. Woman: "I want to be a welder". Instructor: "Okay, take that oxygen tank and put it over there." Woman: "I can't budge it. I'm being marginalized and dissuaded from being a welder in this toxic male environment!"

[@celticcheetah6371]

@@scocassovegetus you see maybe we need to redefine what “work hard” means. Have you ever looked after 3 toddlers for a day, on your own? Tantrums and shitty nappies and having your eyes everywhere in case someone falls off a sofa or shoved their fingers in a plug socket… totally exhausting. So perhaps the way to decrease the “pay gap” is to increase the monetary value we place on so called “women’s work”. In fact Scandinavian countries have done this to quite an extent - e.g. in Finland, teachers (majority female in the UK) are paid the same as doctors and lawyers (majority male in the UK). And when you think about it, why shouldn’t they be? We trust them to guide and program our kids. That’s a pretty important job.

[@lavrentivs9891]

@@scocassovegetus One of my best friends is a female welder, what's your issue with them?

[@ross951]

I was genuinely sad when I searched for her book and found out shes not a real person :(

[@alecstahl2387]

Of course she is not!

[@IfISpeakBigTrouble]

I think she's written around the book 'Women Vs. Feminism: Why We All Need Liberating from the Gender Wars' by Joanna Williams. Very enlightening book written by Director of the Centre for the Study of Higher Education at the University of Kent. Hope this helps :)

[@aceupsleeve9331]

WAIT what?!? I was so happy to find a logical feminist and you just shattered it.

[@ross951]

Ace Upsleeve I know. There’s a real hunger for her type. With some luck, a character might appear.

[@ΣκοτώνωΧαρά]

What?! Treachery!

[@ChadeGB]

This a real woman, a real feminist. My wife gets paid more than anyone else she works with other than her manager, by a substantial amount, why? Because she's got a ton of experience, she good at a her job and when we decided to have children, she went back to work after a month and I stayed at home to look after the kids. Best decision ever btw, lmao.

[@Max-bo4pn]

According to the looney feminists, its a tough job walking around the house all day in your pjs.

[@scocassovegetus]

She's not a feminist, she's an actor, pointing out the ludicrous feminist rhetoric.

[@DM-mb3wm]

Chase Fallstar literally saw your username and had to comment, completely agree with your comment and love Robin Hobbs work

[@wowwowwow185]

About time all this pc bulshit is called out. Jordon peterson seems to of started a tidle wave of common sense to come back the main stream media is really old and boring now!

[@cobaliciousd3233]

Sure they did Chade, sure

[@CodeCommand]

The pay gap is total bullshit. This is brilliant.

[@ErykaSoleil]

I wouldn't say it's completely bullshit, as there are definitely cases where it is happening. However, I do agree that those instances are not as common as we are lead to believe, and that the bigger problem is the sexism that still exists in the workplace.

[@Descorath]

+ErykaSoleil, Im curious. "there are definitely cases where it is happening." Where? The US ? UK ? Multiple studies has shown that this is not the case in both these countries (and elsewhere, Canada, Norway and Germany that I have read, indicating that its the same everywhere) There might be isolated cases if you look deep enough, but that can happen in any variability (and go both ways) and so far there is no evidence that it is nothing more than rare cases that has no connection to each other and definitely not something systemic. Or are you not thinking about the "pay gap" narrative that women is payed less for the same work, but rather that the jobs women choose to do is payed less than some other jobs and thus they have a lower income compared to men as a whole? If so, that is a whole different topic, and one that I'm somewhat agree should be looked into if anything should or could be done (though it is market driven so hard to drive value to something that isn't valued more by the market itself) Also, sexism that exists in the workplace? again, US? Do you mean at all workplaces in general and its a "systemic" problem, or individual cases? Here too, at least on this side of the pond there is little evidence to show anything resembling the "epidemic" or systemic sexism that is argued in the media these days, though there are cases of it that absolutely should be looked into and taken seriously. Just to pre-empt, I'm not trying to hang you out in any way, I'm genuinely interested in a discussion if you have arguments against my view here.

[@olly08021]

Ah deary me. If you're going to say "multiple studies has shown that this is not the case", you actually have to back that up with the studies... That's how proper debate works, otherwise it's obvious you're just talking out of your arse. For example, here's how it's done. Independent studies proving the gender pay gap in the UK: ig.ft.com/gender-pay-gap-UK/ www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/research-report-109-the-gender-pay-gap.pdf www.equalpayportal.co.uk/statistics/ And before you say "these are direct comparisons, they don't take into account life choices and maternity leave bla bla" - Actually, READ the studies. They DO take that into account, and still find a gap. Now, THAT is how you reference studies

[@Descorath]

+Oliver Crockett, I'll dig up the ones I read on the UK specifically. I'll also read through those links you posted, though quick skimming some of them even comments on how they do not take everything into account. My point was the "pay gap" referred to in the media as lower pay for the same job, something that is against the law in the UK and has been for a while now if I remember correctly, and at least one of the studies you linked writes about how it found no difference in the pay for the same job. Now this may be me using the wrong phrase for the "pay gap" based of what they define it as in the UK and rather should have used the term equal pay? I never argued that there wasn't a difference in the average wages between women and men as a whole (or even within a sector), that is true, but when you dig into the material there is reasons for this variations that remove all but a small percentage of the differences. These being factors as occupation, full time/part time, overtime, pregnancy and more. One factor is even that men is more likely to ask for raises than females are. The study I most recently read was from norway where they after taking everything into account found less than 2% differences in wages when doing the same work. Again, I have to read through the studies to see what they take into account or not and what their conclusions are. Oh, and I even see one of the studies show that women have higher wages than men in the 20-30 age bracket, though that is never mentioned.

[@Descorath]

+fenrif, thanks for the quick summery of the studies, that was my initial feel of them but I want to dig further down in them before I answered conclusively.

[@rebelwithoutapplause5629]

She's my kind of feminist. When she called him a prick, I fell in love.. I know it's only acting, but if only..

[@kieronbilton2674]

made her look hotter than at the beginning of the interview. Personality always worth an uprating respectfully

[@rebelwithoutapplause5629]

@@kieronbilton2674 Totally agree..

[@IncredibleMet]

@@kieronbilton2674 I thought I was the only one!

[@lordchipmonk1]

I consider myself lucky in that my wife is very similar. A very intelligent woman who is more interested in facts than made up BS and who gives as good as she gets.

[@FauxtakuLounge]

Still, her more moderate feminism will skew to the current sort. It is the law of entropy.

[@TheGrafixbox]

Literally what Jordan Peterson said in the Cathy Newman interview.

[@jimothyworldbuilding3664]

Yeah but when a woman says it it's a lot harder for feminists to call her sexist.

[@toddrf]

So what you're saying is...

[@Archaon27]

@@jimothyworldbuilding3664 as said in the skit, they just say she has "Internalised misogyny"

[@ghaithghazi6748]

That fucking bitch annoyed me to a blood boiling degree

[@laxeystu8096]

He didn't reason it as clearly as she did here. ..

[@oklahomaproud6665]

This is what I, a woman, have been saying for years!

[@kanekiamano8250]

Then you truly have made... Oklahoma Proud

[@leighte2426]

Wow, do u want a medal. Didn’t know someone could have common sense

[@kanekiamano8250]

Leight E I'll take that medal on behalf of her if you want

[@eben7248]

“Congratulations on the book” “Did you enjoy it?” (To the cameraman) “Are we ready?” I’m dying 😂

[@zeromailss]

This is absolute gold! The acting is top notch

[@Spyler1]

ew a weeb

[@bignutsinyourmouf4606]

@@Spyler1 ew a normal beautiful amazing person, I love you.

[@thecreator625]

@@Spyler1 Eww a Groot.

[@jayess8714]

"Feminism is about autonomy and choice, not about playing the victim"

[@BoredGamerUK]

Great Job loving your stuff bud!

[@Gb9b13]

Bored! What are you doing here? I thought you lived in the 'verse haha

[@MrZriael]

Oh hey, its Bored. You should add a spot of punctuation to your comments, that way you can avoid them sounding like masturbatory encouragement. :p

[@ScottishAtheist]

See you in the verse mate.

[@heavierain]

Love your videos

[@bvyup2112]

Sarcastic as fuck and instead of just being extremely partisan he actually rips on both sides.

[@briarblack7437]

This is some of the best writing this show has seen. That final bit when she asks him to go for a drink was tops.

[@MiaogisTeas]

I literally said "yes, but now" to my phone.

[@floridasam4587]

Oh look!! An ACTUAL feminist and not a 3rd wave feminazi!?!?! Aaaaaannd subbed!!

[@moss1066]

You've subscribed to Jonathan Pie not the fictional feminist lol. But still not a bad thing.

[@floridasam4587]

@@moss1066 fully aware of who i subbed darlin lol he seems funny n very much a smart ass... My kinda guy

[@Deltoren1]

to be fair some 1st and 2nd wave feminists were worse. calling for deaths of all women

[@muhammadstotalpeacefulreli1772]

What's the difference?

[@Lord-Krotch]

@@muhammadstotalpeacefulreli1772 i know it's a long while, but your username is amazing....i like the sarcasm😂😂😂😂😂

[@alexemmerson2813]

"We don't need to be patronised". Damn right.

[@BlueTJLP]

I hope this goes viral. Let this go viral, please.

[@brucekennedy5274]

Damn this is so good. I love his rants but it’s great to see Pie as the comedy foil to someone else making killer political and social observations. And she’s just brilliant. Although it’s a slightly different animal, this totally reminds me of Partridge at its best.

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

He DEFINITELY went a bit Partridge in this one!

[@jeanpierre3061]

I'm 23 and I'm male. There are 5 woman 30+ in my office who ALL earn more than me. I wonder if it's because they've got more work experience, do different kinds of work, worked at the company longer. Let me know....

[@SillyhAsH]

Remember when you were 13, what you could do or demand compared to what you can do and demand at 23. Guess what it increased over time.

[@PipsqueakSSBM]

@@SillyhAsH Yea, that's the above comments point i assume. Basically reinforcing the video's message

[@gdfggggg]

It could be that they are earning more than you because of your suggestions or it could be the company has employed women as part of the current feminist agenda.

[@captainfuture2882]

So you are saying that there is sexism against men in the office?! We need to address that.

[@rayblack2004]

I sometimes wonder if sexual favours have something to do with their promotions...

[@aidenwinter1117]

“How do you fancy going for a drink after?” This question alone spoke a thousand words

[@SoundSpeeding]

Surprised nobody else highlighted this moment in the comments!

[@aidenwinter1117]

@@SoundSpeeding I know right, I think it's because they kinda just skimmed over it and it's not something very noticeable in the video

[@SoundSpeeding]

@@aidenwinter1117 how it was skimmed over just makes it all the funnier

[@Icedice2k]

because you have to brit-ish to understand a word

[@gracebates3336]

Is that considered sexual harassment? It happens to me a lot. I always assumed they were interested in my point of view sometimes and am not automatically offended. 🙁

[@martinthewarrior5016]

The fact that this is a comedy sketch and not just the generally accepted truth is what's worrying 😂

[@christofferravn4486]

I get that it is staged, but as I've not watched Jonathan Pie before, I don't actually get the "comedy"-part? It's a serious topic, and she (the actress) is raising some of the same arguments as fx. Jordan B. Peterson, so where is the comedy?

[@RubUOutC]

Christoffer Ravn Timing and delivery

[@risingson21]

Christoffer Ravn it's not what she says that's the "funny" bit… it's that an alleged journalist aka "truth reporter" is FLABBERGASTED BY THE TRUTH! It would be like telling a mathematician 2+2 = 4, and them genuinely replying "but I was told it was 22!" Superficial mainstream journalism is what is being lampooned by this comedy sketch, not the serious facts that she speaks.

[@donjenne]

@@risingson21 well explained 👌

[@helmos]

@@christofferravn4486 its called satire

[@dowlrod66]

5th Jonathan pie video ive seen and im still not sure if he's really a reporter

[@lauraminer9542]

sean dowling Search the web for interviews with him where to talks about his career and how he developed the character.

[@karydanzine916]

What the hell😂😂

[@KentShepherd]

He's not. He's a comedian doing satire, and doing it brilliantly. It's high time the few rational people that remain leaning left start calling out the insanity in modern left wing politics. There's currently no place for someone like me that values free speech as absolute, relies on facts over feelings, and yet thinks that corporate regulations and strong social programs are emminently beneficial to society.

[@elfletch9502]

He’s not a reporter, he’s a great comedian, however it does seem confusing at first I must admit

[@tschakatschada]

Kent, you are absolutely right. Thank you for showing me that not everyone has gone mad. :D

[@paleemperor5379]

I'm offended by this. Off to jail you go.

[@stephenhill1089]

Wait.. Was this filmed in Scotland??

[@poes1965]

This is the type of feminist I respect

[@jordanboyle539]

Knock knock ... who's there ? ...the gender pay gap doesnt exist..

[@tardiskeeper6]

... I don't get it

[@HerbsmanRevs]

the gender pay gap doesn't exist who?

[@SockPuppet80]

@Revs the gender pay gap doesn't exist Shoe. On Head.

[@HerbsmanRevs]

REEEEEEEEEEEE

[@simonjohnston3100]

/flings button

[@carl7221]

Call me old fashioned, but aren't facts brilliant!

[@NickCent11]

Good to know I am not alone.

[@IncredibleMet]

Old-fashioned! We live in a post-factual world.

[@gtb870]

Carl yep your old fashioned I think the the facts are now surplus to requirements

[@Fleetstreetbestone]

Facts are to offensive nowadays

[@E1craZ4life]

I suppose the whole thing boils down to the fact that people who fight for equality tend to believe that "equality" should benefit themselves more than others.

[@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901]

E1craZ4life I guess you could say that they believe some people are more equal than others

[@Isleofskye]

" Some are born more " equal" than others "....

[@iss2075]

I think it boils down to the fact that a lot of people out there genuinely believe men and women are biologically identical. The fact that they are different means it's almost certain there will be a gender pay gap. Maybe if sexism is completely removed from society, the pay gap will close a bit, maybe women would even earn more than men on average, or maybe we would find the sexism is mainly directed towards men and that the pay gap would widen. But I would find it highly unlikely that two groups of people, who have different brains, hormone levels and bodies on average, would end up earning the same on average. I want men and women to be treated fairly and equally when applying for jobs or getting promoted. However, the current strategy of claiming there's sexism until women are earning an equal amount (or more) than men on average, is very dangerous in my opinion.

[@Isleofskye]

Logic and Lateral Thinking you have GOT to be a MALE !!!

[@robertcherman]

haha this video is not that good. I did not like it, but I wanted to say one thing. Being equal and being fair is not the same thing. And it sounds like you are talking more about being fair than equal. Someone can give a 100% and it will not equal someone else's 100% So to be fair we give glasses to people that can't see, but does that make them equal, or is it just fair? Just a thought to think about.

[@Jacob-jz1pc]

This felt way too much like an actual interview with an admirable author, rather than a satirical comedy sketch for a fake news presenter's KZbin channel.

[@quizpubbob]

What do you mean? A feminist on TV who understand gender pay gap? Because that's covered and debated properly, isn't it?

[@bico6685]

@@quizpubbob not that deep

[@quizpubbob]

@@bico6685 The penny has dropped.

[@wailer27]

Bigot!

[@skaruts]

_"Congratulations on the book."_ _"Did you enjoy it?"_ _"Uhhh... are we ready?"_

[@Chihiro-Kikuchi]

"fancy going for a drink after?" PERFECT xD

[@AlfredMD]

Chihiro Kikuchi if the guy asked it... Oof

[@DS_portraits]

This woman is amazing

[@svensvenkill]

She's an actress.

[@jasonBGI]

I love her!!!

[@sami2503]

which is a shame because now feminists can dismiss every point made in the video because " she's acting" and it's 'propaganda' we need more women (especially feminists) to speak out because as soon as a man says anything they are immediately dismissed.

[@svensvenkill]

Feminists are a pretty broad demographic. Other than believing in equality, feminists don't all believe in exactly the same things. Even Milo Twatannopoulos has called himself a feminist (whilst also saying "Feminism is cancer", because, you know, he's a walking contradiction, but still...). In other words, you might want to be more careful and precise with your language. e.g. you could instead have said, "Many extreme third wave feminists can dismiss every point made in the video because ... "

[@waynegoldpig2220]

Just a talented actress. It was all scripted by Pie.

[@jensonphan]

"Did you enjoy it?" *no answer*

[@AxioM1721]

Brilliant sketch, well done!

[@FirstLast-cf4mi]

I don't understand...she has a vagina right?

[@FirstLast-cf4mi]

Just tried to order her book. It doesn't exist. She's an actress. Isn't feminism amazing?

[@ghostdukevladamir5101]

Yeah obviously she's an actress. This is a comedic / satirical sketch

[@robertjuh]

this is a good sketch yea. Looks like they have been listening to the conservatives

[@danarchist74]

Except for 1 key fact it's complete Bull Shit AxioM1721

[@Ashfielder]

That was excellent. Not often you see Pie on the back foot, or defending something that’s complete bollocks.

[@conorcairns871]

Toby Wood, if he'd just come out and said it himself, it'd be labelled as sexist. That was the only way he could avoid a backlash.

[@HerrSheeps]

Toby Wood it's satire. He's playing a character to get his point across. Sheesh.

[@KiddKyle67]

Toby Wood It would of been funny if it was Tim doing the interview

[@Ashfielder]

Lord Spam And your point is?

[@HerrSheeps]

Toby Wood That he's not *actually* on the back foot. I thought I was pretty clear.

[@tovarisch3039]

If women were paid less than men then companies would only hire women for cheaper labor - Thomas Sowell

[@WhitbyStuff]

3:54 "Tescos" "What about Tesco?" Made my heart sing. All you twats who pluralise shopnames.

[@AndyDevious]

My auntie says "Mataland"

[@NostraFnDamus]

Pie is probably going to jail for for his Nazi antics in the last one, so he's clearly decided to burn his bridges on the way down. Good job.

[@Modj-j5m]

She is so balanced with her arguments. The world needs more people like her. ☺☺☺

[@jongbong1912]

It's a sketch..

[@harryhazza626]

@@jongbong1912 she's still correct

[@trexpaddock]

The world is full of 'people like her'. They are just never allowed to speak, and when they try to, there are protests. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3K1eXaudrJ0hZI

[@olliekearnon-caister7615]

Every feminist I've ever met, including myself, is like her. The 'feminists' that this sketch is making fun of are a minority and the only reason we see them all the time is because they are the type of people to make yt vids about it and so on. The majority of feminists are like the women in this vid.

[@trexpaddock]

@@olliekearnon-caister7615 Ah yes, the 'No True Feminist', aka NAFALT. I hate to break it to you, but the ones running the Feminist movement, the ones writing the text books, the ones teaching at universities, are nothing like her. Women live longer, have the safest jobs, are the majority of university students, get the majority of government funding, commit 45% (roughly) of the crimes, and are 5% of the prison population, have enforced quotas for many jobs, get paid more for the same work, are the lest likely to be victims of all forms of violent crime, AND call themselves 'oppressed'. If Feminists wanted equality, they would be acting like MRAs.

[@goodsirknight]

Lobsters

[@karlbjorn1831]

goodsirknight 👳🏿👌🏿🦀

[@cheesi]

_s o w h a t y o u r e s a y i n g i s_

[@sven6574]

Yup

[@DanKeating498]

I see the truth, the meaning of life is lobsters

[@TheBioshocksnake]

Man, I love the lobsters now. We should organize our societies along the lines of them.

[@comparethequeercat]

that "7 in 10 people are wrong" line always gets me

[@hwelse]

1 minute in and suddenly every conceivable orifice is screaming *_N A N I_*

[@Ir0nFrog]

Hwelse She went all Fist of the North Star on his brain.

[@elstormo]

You are aware that Jonathan Pie is a persona made by a comedian, right? That this is an act?

[@mattb7291]

Are you sure on what orifice means

[@aple8307]

What does orifice mean?

[@mattb7291]

Froosti and why are you replying? I didn’t ask you. Or are you just trying to look smart?

[@casinbound5894]

"See nooowwww you sounded like a feminist" that was perfect.

[@formdusktilldeath]

I died

[@DavidTemrick]

"...this is not the narrative.." best line and her response is gold.

[@asdreww]

This actually had me googling her name/book name to get a copy. Genuinely good acting!

[@RobertWGreaves]

OMG, even though I lean left, I have been saying this for years and getting blasted for it. Well done!

[@stefrost4029]

You've been getting blasted because it's pure bullshit, which is why this video needed an actress instead of an expert and why she ignores the ONS, a ton of studies and things like how much a male vs female CEO gets paid on average...

[@Jim-so3zm]

Ste Bear That would be because female CEOs would ON AVERAGE take more time off due to childbirth etc. Paying them less for the same hours would be ILLEGAL.

[@Jim-so3zm]

Funny how Mr Bear still hasn't addressed my point about such behaviour being illegal...

[@andyderbyshire519]

Leftie myself. Doesn't mean I cannot read facts and change my opinion accordingly. I would say that both left and right are getting too extreme.

[@Jim-so3zm]

Andy Derbyshire Everything's getting too fucking extreme nowadays. Thanks social media.

[@lord123j]

This was crafted so well. Well done you two!

[@chrisbovington9607]

Totally agree. Pie will make bank if he keeps this up. Who is playing the guest? Does she have her own channel?

[@saintsaens21]

Seems inspired by the British The Office. And she's very good.

[@aryella1314]

An intelligent, reasonable feminist? I'm...confused

[@CJM-rg5rt]

@Mohammed Naji Resursskola um.. yeah, intelligent and reasonable. What's your point? 3x as many people are born then die. This isn't even sustainable and we are killing everything. There is going to be 9.8 billion people in 2050, when has it gone too far? You realize this doesnt stop right, imagine everywhere being New York or farmland. Fucking hell is what it's going to be. 15,000 people are born every hour, do we really even matter? You must see that humanity doesn't really deserve all it thinks it does. We have lots of potential but we'd rather piss it away, everyday I feel like this joke has gone on too long and it's not funny anymore.

[@sjuvanet]

Oxytocin 97 weird way to put it

[@CJM-rg5rt]

@@sjuvanet I think it is a super weird delusion that we can say deer and raccoons get overpopulated. It's getting worse all the time but we are so greedy, someone always blames politicians but if you did more then replace you and your loved one then you contributed to all the problems and haven't accepted or don't care about our nature.

[@dylanhinkel3548]

Oxytocin 97 half of it is coming from middle eastern families overpopulating europe with 10 kids each, because they haven’t gotten the memo that it isn’t the middle ages and all but 1 kid dying isn’t how it is anymore

[@CJM-rg5rt]

@@dylanhinkel3548 I know it's worse over there but even America is bad too. Ultra inhabitable places like my home state of Ohio turn into a massive suburb. It sucks when a small heavily trafficked park is the furthest you can get away within a hundred miles and it somehow gets more packed with housing developments and stores every second. It pisses me off that nobody cares how great it would be if we kept our fucking down to a minimum. The only way I can see myself thinking fondly of humanity in general is if we kept a healthy population like seriously 2 kids max with all our technology and advancements would be paradise.

[@jakebradley1688]

Finally. A logical feminist

[@LegoSnakeproductions]

Damn, I really wanna read that book now

[@ilv1]

It would be more useful as a gift to someone who doesn't get it. You clearly do.

[@rmch4070]

Isn’t real btw

[@kitbrown3895]

This 100% is my views

[@TiaanKruger]

by getting rid is silly myths like the Wage Gap, we can focus on actual issues

[@GaryMcCaffrey]

Like why universities and schools are failing men.

[@Nightdare]

And where do all my left socks go

[@markpostgate2551]

It could be less men are going to universities because a university education no longer ensures a good job; and only ensures massive debts. Schools however is a different matter.

[@Tespri]

+Mark Postgate That, however from school perspective, school environment is not favorable to men. In order to be good in school one just needs to be submissive and more agreeable person. However men age generally disagreeable hence less likely to do homework or read to the exams. Therefore their grades suffer. Not to mention that when they are teens and filled with hormones... Good luck trying to focus on anything in mixed classes, especially if teacher is average or above when it come to her looks.

[@cowl6867]

I wish more people like her had a voice

[@ThePikeOfDestiny]

i love how he makes the doctor who joke and she just ignores it, nice reference with "bigger on the inside".

[@evilontoast7266]

Genuinely brilliant

[@anniethequeer6510]

This video went exactly where i wanted it to go, we need to remind people that feminism is about empowerment not molly codling. We can make our own fucking way in life thank you very much no chaperone required

[@harrycrosswell2844]

Clear inversion of the JP Kathy Newman interview. Pure gold.

[@serge2cool]

How isn't this something more like 2MILLION views? It's one the absolute BEST videos on this topic I've seen.

[@DisemboweII]

Because it's true, and therefore dangerous.

[@dominiqueernotte3548]

Because it's not "the narrative"

[@ryann409]

Thank you. This is my new favourite video on the internet.

[@grimmlight4541]

Got to love when a comedy sketch has more truth than reality.

[@caveydavey2486]

Any chance David Schwimmers offer of a chaperone was really to protect himself? It might be insulting but being prosecuted for sexual harassment is career ending stuff even if they're found not guity.

[@philiposborne982]

Fair point.

[@jameshooper5671]

I was going to make the same point. The chaperone is for his protection not the jurno's.

[@for111]

Yeah he admitted as much. I can see his point, tbh

[@michaelsorensen7567]

And how many careers end over women bring charged with sexual harassment? Feminists, where's that equality?

[@sparksfly5877]

Not really. Depends on the people you know.

[@januwary3506]

the camera work on jonathan cracks me up every time