California's laws are crazy anyway. Ticketing someone for having a stock car exhaust should be grounds to sue.
@General_M2 ай бұрын
Crackles and pops are obnoxious, they shouldn’t be part of the stock experience.
@Localtraveler23762 ай бұрын
@@General_Mit’s legal. Stop being a Karen.
@Localtraveler23762 ай бұрын
@@General_M haha great comeback 🤡 if having fun and living a little mean being a child then call me a child. Are you even American? Then mind your own business. The laws here have absolutely nothing to do with you.
@theredsalmon6122 ай бұрын
commiefornia run by gavin newscum, what do you expect
@rforracemode58462 ай бұрын
@@General_Myou definitely drive a 2007 Toyota Camry with no personality
@PaulJohnson-r8x2 ай бұрын
The changes made for this model year are very subtle, most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. I can’t believe you said you wouldn’t recommend this car for track use in the segment, you’re the only reviewer I’ve ever heard say that.
@no-one-kc3yd2 ай бұрын
The gear shifts are so smooth man Love it.
@TheUnreadableUser2 ай бұрын
The reason maybe why you think they toned it down is because the Elantra N DCT has quite a bit more pops and burbles, which used to be backwards with the Veloster N, as the manual was louder than the DCT. This car is probably THE definition of bang for your buck. This is $10,000 less than a Civic Type R and has better creature comforts and more importantly, a better exhaust.
@Thedrizzlestick4952 ай бұрын
I believe the type r should probably hold its value more than the N in the long run though if you care for that
@TheUnreadableUser2 ай бұрын
@@Thedrizzlestick495 you're right
@taybuffetxvxАй бұрын
$10,000? Try $20,000 irl dollars
@392uwu2 ай бұрын
My Sonata N-Line was definitely one of the most fun cars I've owned. Hyundai gets a lot of hate, but props to them for making cars like this still. I thought about an Elantra N, but it's just a tad small for my liking. That said, I really hope they end up putting the 2.5T in the Elantra N. Not a huge aftermarket for the 2.5T, but it's a torquey motor. And with a piggyback tune and bolt-ons my Sonata was making pretty decent power.
@Eddie-loves-cars2 ай бұрын
Love the car and the quality of the video. Thanks for another great video and review.
@커피맛맥주-i2i2 ай бұрын
Nice and thanks for the video! I push the button on the sidebreak when lifting it up, but my friend gave me a chuckle and said I was doing it wrong lol Well, the only difference I think is the +1 masculinity on each 'drag noise' you hear. I am glad Topher and I have the same method lol
@andywilliamb9 сағат бұрын
Dude the person driving at 11:05... Why do people think it's necessary to get straight in the passing lane. Happens literally every day. Grinds my gears. Anyway, really nice review. I got my 2022 Veloster N back in May and I absolutely love the thing. So nice and eco on the highway but SUCH good grip when on it. Literally so surprised every time I drive. Best manual transmission I've ever driven as well. Super easy and satisfying.
@willhart15232 ай бұрын
I had a 21' VN DCT in Performance blue with a resonator delete and a catted DP and the sound was GLORIOUS. First car I've ever bought brand new, and would absolutely recommend N cars
@karmahunden2 ай бұрын
why did you sell?
@willhart15232 ай бұрын
@@karmahunden ihad a few issues with Hyundai's warranty and there were a few recalls that worried me about long term ownership. I upgraded to a 2020 M340I, much faster, nicer interior, and more room (GF and I have a kid on the way).
@noahpike8274Ай бұрын
@@willhart1523gl working on it. Id say to each their own. For the price and tangibillity these cars are great...i have a video of me pullling the engine in sub 2 hours with no lift in sandals 😂😂😂🤣
@r3games19852 ай бұрын
This is the color I picked 2025. Just waiting for my dealer order to come in. I think I've seen every video on this car painfully waiting.
@AntonioGarcia-ci9ot2 ай бұрын
On the same boat lol. Waiting on my manual performance blue N to arrive. Should be arriving in December 🤞🏽
@startrader95032 ай бұрын
Lil Topher x Big Topher handbrake turn competition when?
@NDEEZMiata2 ай бұрын
When/if the time comes to trade in my ND2 for something more practical (growing family), this is at the top of my list. Everything else is way too expensive and not necessarily more fun. I’m over the super fast super capable car phase, I want something fun to drive on the street at reasonable speeds and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to daily drive.
@lazoreyeshootingpigz2 ай бұрын
Dude you’re awesome. I research the mustand ecoboost, you upload, civic SI, same thing and now im looking into Elantra N and this shows on my feed! 😂 which ones the favorite out of those 3?
@velocityvibezzz2 ай бұрын
My favorite car. Thanks for sharing this with us!
@JCP5192 ай бұрын
I had the 2022 DCT version of the N for about a year and it was way louder than the new one. They must have toned it back because of California. Such a fun car to throw into corners!
@r3games19852 ай бұрын
"Way louder" I doubt it. I just took the 2025 out for a test drive and it sounded the same to me.
@arejayy2 ай бұрын
@@r3games198522 and 23 definitely louder than the facelift models. Me and my two friends have confirmed it side by side
@mharro882 ай бұрын
@@r3games1985it's not
@rforracemode58462 ай бұрын
I feel like the dct gets more pops and burbles, really love the new look of this thing
@TopherDrives2 ай бұрын
I think the pre facelift car had more. TheTopher and I agreed that this new ‘24 seemed a bit toned down
@1cecreampize1972 ай бұрын
Huh I heard manual have more pops. I have dct
@IsaacPoopsAlot2 ай бұрын
@@1cecreampize197 yeah i think that was true for the pre-facelift
@arejayy2 ай бұрын
@@TopherDrives the facelift is definitely toned down. I've confirmed it side by side with my two friends. I've got a 23 and they both have 24s
@jonttran10922 ай бұрын
@@arejayy post up a clip.. maybe the 23 just has more miles and the exhaust worn in?
@andynguyen39132 ай бұрын
I daily a Performance Blue VN PP 6MT with a resonator delete, the sounds are even better. It turns heads everywhere it goes. N cars are definitely the most bang for buck. Replace stock intake and get a bigger turbo inlet pipe for even more noise. My next project will be replacing the downpipe for the ultimate noise.
@jonttran10922 ай бұрын
Does resonator delete add any performance? Or just more raspy sounds? I always liked deeper sounds not more raspy
@andynguyen39132 ай бұрын
@@jonttran1092 It just opens up the noise a bit more. If you want more performance, downpipe and intake
@claywanstrath2204Ай бұрын
Wild the carplay isn't wireless on this model when the base Elantras have it
@jonttran10922 ай бұрын
Whilst civic type R is marginally the better car overall, no way it’s worth the price difference .. Elantra N like buying a supreme pizza for $20 and type R is an extra anchovy you pay $30
@noahpike8274Ай бұрын
Marginally is key. With very little effort these cars outclass many...inluding the ctr. Which i love the ctr but i hate the bodystyle, sound of the engine, weight.... the fk8 was my favorite. That and the fn2 which was the fastest.
@SwangaSuiteAutoАй бұрын
When you said "something loose", I said "yup thats a hyundai"
@brandonkellum78822 ай бұрын
I just got a 25 manual EN a month ago. I have zero real complaints at this point. Really versatile car.
@prodigyfreeman39352 ай бұрын
what is the mileage you getting? and was it msrp or under or over? I'm considering this car. Your insight will help
@brandonkellum78822 ай бұрын
@@prodigyfreeman3935 31mpg average. I leased for 3 years at $1,000 under MSRP. I tend to not keep cars for too long so the lease made sense. I’d suggest looking at your local Hyundai dealer’s service center reviews and dealer reviews to see where’s the best location to buy/service at. The Elantra N Reddit has a ton of good info, pics, and whatnot as well. If I were purchasing a car for the long term I’d go another route, but it just depends on what you’re wanting. If you have any other questions just lmk and I’ll try to help.
@jonttran10922 ай бұрын
You got a 25 model but It’s still 2024?
@bkellum892 ай бұрын
@@jonttran1092 that's how car years work. 25s come out in 24.
@randomworld4662Ай бұрын
the colour or this is very beautiful and its beautiful car
@nsb_drum2 ай бұрын
Glad to see you discuss elbow comfort lol. I rented a ‘25 BMW X5 (which I absolutely loved) and put about 2500 miles on it. I could not find a comfy spot for my elbow and it bothered much more than I could have imagined.
@devn38132 ай бұрын
Now these cars are 37k. I got my dct new for $33,500 usd.
@terrancemoore4962 ай бұрын
Another reviewer said the same thing in reference to the muffler loudness. I think they put more insulation in the 2024.
@jonttran10922 ай бұрын
Prob just tuned out the pops
@jamesharless61032 ай бұрын
Aye keep up the vids bro!
@VinceFung2 ай бұрын
i personally think these look great especially for the price
@joby602Ай бұрын
A round steering wheel - thank you Hyundai.
@ak21122 ай бұрын
re: handbrake - grip and rip. no button. I want to hear that shit.
@TopherDrives2 ай бұрын
grip and rip 😭 love it
@sayurasem2 ай бұрын
I’m new here, I just recently follow tedwards, the topher, and this channel. One thing I realized you guys have the same driving/ passing style. From what I’ve observed you don’t really like driving on the left lane on the highway. It seems that you always go 80ish mph cruising speed on second to left lane, creep to the next car up, then zigzag to pass and back to second lane. I just wanted to say its very different from where I drive.
@ramn5548Ай бұрын
Just picked up mine 2 tweeks ago ans boy do i love it
@tigerhawk842 ай бұрын
12:09 it seems like the transmission is the weakpoint, not the engine. You swap to some better injectors and slap a tune in and you are easily in mid 300s, but the manual is a little sketchy, the DCT seems to take the power better, but any more than that and the transmissions go according to forums and other people who have done it.
@shamalabadingdong2 ай бұрын
Lmfao what kind of random non sense. You hit the limits of the dct at around the limit of the stock turbo, so an aggressive tune or meth (much more common on the manual ENs). Stock manual transmission is more than fine with 400whp setups (basically meth and tune). The manual is undoubtedly the better trans for making big power, although the dct is considerably faster at the same power. Ndriverkg had a dct Elantra N on meth that got rear ended, and switched to a manual transmission EN. Basically all of our top records have been set with manual transmissions.
@mharro882 ай бұрын
Transmission? It's the best point
@terrancemoore4962 ай бұрын
With the E-brake. Hold the button and pull it up. I haven't used one in a long time since my 2006 Acura TSX. My 2019 Honda Civic Si have (of course) an electronic one.
@Sonic_10002 ай бұрын
For 3 grand more this completely makes the Si obsolete.
@salwilk5582 ай бұрын
N mode = no more traffic issues
@kihun9 күн бұрын
interesting.. I do have the same wind noise from the driver side as well.
@Veyronp872 ай бұрын
one of the best performance bargains on the market!
@Rec0nSn0wgl0beАй бұрын
I push the button, I also put it in gear as well. Just as a backup I guess.
@mhassounehАй бұрын
My decision whether to hold the parking brake button while engaging it or not depends on my mood.. I like to keep my options open 😅
@slocarfr2 ай бұрын
you should do a roadtrip with emily in this one, but with N mode on all the way
@Glideslopes2 ай бұрын
Nice review.
@burnafew10 күн бұрын
So which mid 30s car would you recommend for city commute and spirited driving fun?
@DriveTeros2 ай бұрын
30:00 topherrr you forgot the welcome chime, and this time it's quite a shame cause it has a cool N exclusive animation
@HeyWattsUpCycling6 күн бұрын
81mph at 3k rpm in 6th, whats the dual clutch do at 3k rpm???
@ricktrue84412 ай бұрын
Drop the hood so it closes on its own. Don't partially latch it and then force it down by pushing on it.
@TopherDrives2 ай бұрын
I’ve started doing it that way because numerous people yelled at me for slamming/dropping it. Can’t please everyone!
@lukewalker10512 ай бұрын
@@TopherDrives Dropping it from 6 inches is better for it than pushing down on the hood which can bend the hood.
@jasonmcmaster39392 ай бұрын
Nice when someone is mature about shifting gears and not trying to snap the stick off like a goon lol...prob a fun little car!
@dustytanco69172 ай бұрын
I always hold the botton when engaging the hand brake
@jamesj54692 ай бұрын
Hot hatch's are the daily driver move
@jec01632 күн бұрын
The lack of a rear center armrest is absolutely criminal...how much weight could that really save?!
@itsdaejon2 ай бұрын
Not giving this the lightbar is a CRIME 😭
@jonttran10922 ай бұрын
The dct does not pull any harder than the manual, just shifts quicker and maintains boost through gear changes.. manual car drops its boost as you hit the clutch and needs to spool up boost again going into next gear. DCT quicker against stop watch but don’t pull any harder when on boost just more consistent in its application of boost
@justinbecker47722 ай бұрын
Because it has more gears, it stays in the power band better as well.
@noahpike8274Ай бұрын
Manual makes more whp dct robs 10 percent of the power to the wheels
@justinbecker4772Ай бұрын
@@noahpike8274 source?
@SlyLikesSpace2 ай бұрын
cilantro end
@MrDeathSmack2 ай бұрын
Was doing the ripping but then, I was told by mechanic that the wire in hand brake becomes loose very fast that way. So pressing and pulling 😂
@PsiiKoTiiKКүн бұрын
That's why I mostly drive in the back roads way better and no need to deal with all these people who can't drive 😂
@scott21784Ай бұрын
bext sports car for the bang
@larphraulen2 ай бұрын
From a purely shifting experience, would you rather take the Si (with its rev hang) or the N (with its somewhat sloppy shifter)? Also, any cold transmission grinds?
@noahpike8274Ай бұрын
They both have rev hang and rev matching. Different levels of revmatching too which is adjustable.
@DiplomatGaming2 ай бұрын
I owned a 2022 EN 6-speed MT. Here are things to keep in mind: * Very jerky and hard to shift smoothly when the AC is on for the first ten minutes. * Takes a while for the engine and tires to warm up. * The car is very skittish and tail happy in the rain, similar to a rear-wheel drive car. * Very thirsty engine and small fuel range. * The seats are very uncomfortable and results in lower back pain after one hour drive. * The pedals are not properly spaced for heel-toe downshifts. * Occasional wheel-hop when shifting from 1st-2nd gear. * The shifter is very rubbery. * The ride quality is very stiff in “N” mode. * No sunroof in the MT, only in the AT which makes no sense.
@vliwhy2 ай бұрын
This is really gold for people who are considering EN
@LogoYt-gx9uf2 ай бұрын
Most these complaints yes are good to talk about but all can be solved by getting the DCT version
@LogoYt-gx9uf2 ай бұрын
Most these complaints yes are good to talk about but all can be solved by getting the DCT version
@rogercvc67682 ай бұрын
Sunroofs should only be for people who specifically order them.
@NaijaBull2 ай бұрын
Great points!
@jonttran10922 ай бұрын
For this car the manual is the better option. DCT is not great for daily driving to heat up the clutch packs in traffic inch g forward.. it may not fail now but down the track they will give up the ghost on you. Plus manual transmission more robust and and handle more power mods
@SamLed11112 ай бұрын
Reliability wise how does this Hyundai 4 popper fair? Many Kia/Hyundai 4 cylinder power plants have had major premature engine failure issues. Just curious.
@TopherDrives2 ай бұрын
I haven’t heard any horror stories about N cars! Some owners may chime in here as the day goes on
@lukewalker10512 ай бұрын
Shhhh...guys like Topher and his surrogates are instructed not to talk about that. Antithetical to getting free cars for reviews.
@TopherDrives2 ай бұрын
Not true at all. I have 0 reason to cover up reliability issues. I just haven’t heard any about N cars. Car Confections fully publicized their Santa Fe transmission failure and they still get Hyundai cars to test 🤷🏻♂️.
@SamLed11112 ай бұрын
@@TopherDrives never thought you would cover up engine issues. I have just heard horror stories about the KIA/Hyundai 4 cylinder engines after a year or two of ownership. Was not sure if it also concerned the Elantra N. Love your channel brother. Thank you from Santa Barbara, CA .
@boogiedownkid54652 ай бұрын
The Car Care Nut reviewed the Elantra. He discusses both the base and N engines and he made clear that they are completely different 4 cylinder engines. In fact, he called the N engine a masterpiece and he knows his stuff.
@scytherind89282 ай бұрын
I want one of these so badly but laws over here in Germany have made them a financial nightmare. Might not even be road legal because of emissions, crazy high insurance(which is normal for an 'exotic' car, I know), and with Import fees and everything I'm already scratching 35k+.
@Jesse.George3 күн бұрын
I honestly considered trading in my Type R for one to lower my payment but idk I’ll prob just keep the type R. It’s just everything Hyundai and the N wanna be. Only a real company. I owned a manual Kia forte 1.6t and it ran fine when it ran but idk you can tell it’s made cheap.
@shamalabadingdong2 ай бұрын
Stock internals are good for 500whp. Most common limit right now is fueling, so I see a lot of meth + stock turbo setups that are faster than big turbo with no meth. Basically, without meth stock turbo is around 350whp. With meth 400whp. Internals can take more, seen 450+whp on big turbo setups with good fueling. Stock internals are good. Dct tq no tcu tune maxes out on an aggressive stock turbo tune, but tcu tunes are right around the corner. Stock manual transmission is good for 400whp. These numbers are all for cars that are perfectly reliable to abuse on track and drive hard daily.
@G13-YT2 ай бұрын
RE: I pull the parking brake up while pushing in the button.
@socalpimp197411 күн бұрын
the dead space on the dash left of the gauges is horrible....whats that dumb circle
@anthonyhardison33982 ай бұрын
Does this vehicle have a anti-theft alarm system?
@justinbecker47722 ай бұрын
This car is not susceptible to the kia Bois.
@kitrocks80582 ай бұрын
Yep, they left nothing off the table except quality
@LogoYt-gx9uf2 ай бұрын
Elantra N can take around 500whp before having to do some engine work. But if you want a car with 500whp a fwd car is not the move lol once you at 400whp it’s sketchy af couldn’t imagine 500whp
@hungo77202 ай бұрын
Still an amazing car from Huyndai
@EphraimAyeni2 ай бұрын
my only issue with this is that Hyundai refuses to put a D steering wheel in the Elantra, but has the audacity to put it in the Kia, like it makes me upset every time I have to see a Kia get the D steering wheel treatment.
@jayczyzyk97072 ай бұрын
Its tge same poor reliability either way
@abc456fАй бұрын
I'm 67 and been driving a Toyota avalon for ten years, coming from an Infiniti G37s. I want to drive a manual now and have fun behind the wheel. I wish Mazda offered a manual on their 3 hatchback turbo. Their N/A engine just doesn't have enough hp. There really aren't that many compact choices with a manual. Hyundai's reliability is a question for me. Corolla GR's are catching fire. The Civic R is overpriced. Don't trust Volkswagen quality. Maybe GR86? Not a fan of that boxer engine. I'm kinda stuck on where to go. Quality wise, I think Mazda has the nicest interiors. Oh well. If anyone has any recommendations, I'd love to hear. Thanks.
@giaphutran54252 ай бұрын
Is it better than civic typeR???
@justinbecker47722 ай бұрын
No.
@youcangetsum68712 ай бұрын
No but fl5 definitely isn’t better for 60k
@nowhere52929 күн бұрын
It is if you want DCT.
@mharro882 ай бұрын
Those buckets are horrible compared to the comfort seats we get in Australia
@grichl882 ай бұрын
Why does it seem like only Toyota includes a spare?
@TopherDrives2 ай бұрын
Companies should learn from Toyota. lol
@LogoYt-gx9uf2 ай бұрын
I’m sure the Elantra N doesn’t have one to save on weight which is important bc they did build this car to be able to handle turns very well. Like the new Kia k4 has a spare tire and my old Kia k5 had a spare as well
@grichl882 ай бұрын
@@LogoYt-gx9uf ah, very good point!
@mharro882 ай бұрын
My Elantra N includes a spare here in Australia
@timw20832 ай бұрын
I love my GRC but glad Hyundai has an affordable option for enthusiasts. I wasn't a fan of the pops and burbles
@forcedhaircut2 ай бұрын
great car to own unless you live in cali
@Neon-jn3spАй бұрын
I believe that we are approaching a point where manuals won't hold value as well as any automatics. Purely speculation but the world is becoming more comfortable and automated. Car enthusiasts will always love manuals but the masses are going to be lazy.
@gap._.Ай бұрын
저렴한 차량 가격에 그만한 큰 성능을 내는 재밌는 차량이 있나요? 싸니까요
@jaybarnish772 ай бұрын
Not having a spare tire while having low profile tires it stupid for a daily driver.
@jodan29852 ай бұрын
Do you ever discuss your Lexus Gs anymore/make videos? Just wondering bc I love it.
@TopherDrives2 ай бұрын
yes! there will be news regarding that car coming soon
@EN-sw8es2 ай бұрын
500whp stock internals
@Josegarcia-js5zw2 ай бұрын
Can you drive the 2018 ford explorer plss and i sub
@tomrichardson952 ай бұрын
lol he’s not gonna do it for 1 subscriber. Especially since it means he has to drive a crappy ford explorer
@mharro88Ай бұрын
It’s never felt sloppy…. Weird statement
@jayczyzyk97072 ай бұрын
on thye track r wins street n wins
@freshMilaАй бұрын
Man ! You complaining 😅
@howieewalt1322Ай бұрын
I was really hoping to hear him rip it. He did a little in the beginning but otherwise what a boring watch.
@rogercvc67682 ай бұрын
Seems like a lot of road noise.
@lukewalker10512 ай бұрын
Difference between a Honda and Hyundai? Things like unacceptable wind noise because Hyundai couldn't get the window/door alignment correct aka quality control...or even more nefarious, the window/door interface is poorly designed and therefore hypersensitive to adjustment and lots of owners stuck with it. PS. before anybody buys one, make sure you consult the internet forums of owners and see whether living with one is worth it aka quality and reliability. Many for example will opt for spending $3K less for a Honda Civic Si, biting the bullet on lower power and if you must have more power, tune it.
@TopherDrives2 ай бұрын
The Civic Si I just spent a few days in did feel substantially nicer (build quality wise). I really do love Hyundai’s effort to build these fun cars though.
@rhoma4592 ай бұрын
Mostly agree, but my ‘25 Si at 1.5k miles has creaks in the dashboard/rear deck that my ‘13 Elantra didn’t have at 130k miles. Kinda disappointing
@f8widescat3922 ай бұрын
I bought a 24 manual Elantra N and have no issues with that, maybe some small QC issue that slipped through, nothing other manufacturers don’t do
@LogoYt-gx9uf2 ай бұрын
Living with this car is very easy seats are very comfortable after broken in could be a bit of an issue if you a big boy but no complaints for a car that is 34k and is as good as it is. very amazing car
@dominicg24562 ай бұрын
Yeah I've owned my Elantra N for months and not only have I never experienced these issues but I've never even heard of them. My Civic had way more QC issues than my Elantra N.
@braisedtoast90022 ай бұрын
I wish they made a miata competitor. I can't do fwd. It's just too gay.
@Sam-w5vАй бұрын
It's ok, I'll support you regardless of who you love ❤