2024 Military Pay chart - What will you make?

Going over the 2024 military pay chart so you can understand what you might make if you join the military in 2024. It is a 5.2% increase but if you want to check out the full 2024 military pay chart then check out the link bellow.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 About the 2024 pay chart
00:53 You need to know about pay
02:58 E1 Pay
03:49 E2 Pay
04:31 E3 Pay
04:54 E4 Pay
05:33 O1 Pay
05:58 2024 Pay Scenario
08:05 How to calculate what you will make
08:41 Military VS Civilian pay
10:36 Wrap it up

[@liquidforce-ml5lf]

Picture this... the military is funded by taxes. Our paychecks come from those military funds. Our paychecks are also taxed... thus in turn, we're paying our own paychecks... we should be tax exempt 🤷‍♂️

[@mooviedude141]

Exactly. Whenever some clown senior enlisted would say "that's tax payer money you are wasting". I would say "we pay our taxes too."

[@htown148]

You don't pay taxes overseas on deployment

[@ericmathison2588]

@@htown148 the only place you are tax excepted is the Middle East. Some spots over there aren’t even exempt these days I believe

[@htown148]

All of asia is tax free also. dont be a donkey@@ericmathison2588

[@JimboMustangNavy]

Picture this, all of us pay Social Security tax and when you get old enough to draw it you get taxed on the taxes you already paid…… Also you get hit on the Military retirement pay…… Seems our tax system is a tad greedy, oh wait thats the political leaders that forgot who they work for.

[@annajougc1134]

I joined the army at 29, I turn 30 March 11, 2024. My ship date is 2/20/24. I am an E-2 rank thanks to my recruiter for taking the 9 courses in Future Soldier program. For those saying that military pay sucks, I disagree. My last job was a Sales Manager in Marietta, GA. I made $3,500/monthly after taxes. My bills monthly total were $3,200 leaving me with only $300/month. I have NO KIDS or pets and live in "safe neighborhood in Georgia, 1 bedroom apartment with security camera for extra protection). Now fast forward, got rid of my car because I wont need it, my total bills in the military will be $191 so I can save way more money, finish my degree, and get a house after I get out. Please dont let people fool you into thinking the pay sucks when you literally have little to no bills (Single soldiers). Different if you have a family.

[@bani491]

Are you looking for a BF 🧐🧐

[@Me-eb3wv]

Exactly. Military pay goes way farther than civilian wages for exactly everything you said. Uncle Sam pays for you living expenses so the average service member can pocket 75%+ of their salary and save it or invest it. The same can’t be said about a civilian wage. That $55k may sound decent but after paying the bills and putting food on the table you’re lucky if you even have $500 left at the end of the month

[@Drejac1]

@@bani491 nah she’s not she’s focusing on her career

[@xoonies-_-8117]

Happy belated birthday 🤝🏾

[@trader-matt]

​@@bani491never date a active navy woman she is OUR gf

[@NightmareJokers]

As an Army Recruiter, this is an amazing video! I'm constantly going over this information with all my new recruits. Very well made!

[@gmgclo]

I want to get in but have a background 2 felony’s both non violent and

[@MargaritoLaraga]

Sir can you help me? Im a soldier in Philippines i want to ship and join US ARMY, BUT i really need your help can you help me? Its hard for me to get greencard , i want it, can you tell to the US ARMY RECRUITMENT i need employer so i can get greencard or help me for getting it and send to me. I'll be there i will return your money.

[@MargaritoLaraga]

Thank you very much ​@@gmgclo.

[@Me-eb3wv]

The military is best if you’re like 28+ and the chances of you retiring or owning a house is slim to none because the best you can do in the job market is land a job where the peak salary is $5-$10 above minimum wage, you’re better off joining the military. Become an army plumber or a navy engineman, do your 20 years and then retire at 53 with a house to come home to somewhere in middle America

[@jerimiahlopez2640]

dude no lol, its better if you can go in straight after high school, like me, hopefully i will do 20 years and retire before 40, while investing a percentage into tsp

[@user-yt7so7dy1w]

I spent 26 years on active duty but was never assigned to a active duty post in my home state. And was not required to pay State Tax.

[@montcutler2460]

26? That’s it? HA try 35 years marine core here best 35 years in my life

[@jrruiz2732]

@@montcutler2460 not trying to be rude but what led to you choosing to go military because i’m young but thinking about it

[@JGoodman333]

​@jrruiz2732 the military offers a lot of non-tangible things: like leadership, brotherhood, unique experiences. These are the things that keep me continuing my service.

[@austindecker7643]

@@jrruiz2732 for me it’s just something I wanted to do last that I knew I would like so I joined the Air Force and in power pro

[@TheBlackhorse1954]

That's because you must come from a state that isn't community property. I came in in 1972, lived in Colorado. I paid Colorado state tax for the 20 years I was in the service.

[@JamesNotBoring]

you can come in as a E4 with the ACASP (Army Civilian Acquired Skills Program). Certain MOS’s allow you to take advantage of this. If you are a Nationally registered EMT you can come in as a E4 and there is bonuses for ACASP 68W’s

[@n8te__]

Yea that’s what iam doing rn. Iam going in as an e-3 not 4

[@anonymousm9113]

Money matters, but so does having a plan. I come from a long line of both military veterans and blue-collar workers. I grew up in a trailer park with a working mom and a stepdad who made minimum wage as a security guard. My plan isn't perfect, but I used my 21 years in to become the first in my family to earn a four-year degree, buy a house (using the GI Bill), and generally take advantage of everything the Army has to offer. I don't make a lot of money in my civilian job but have a resume that could double or maybe even triple my pay. I get my pension as an E-7, 100% disability, and live a quiet life that I never dreamed of having when I was a brash young Private simply waiting for the next paycheck to hit. Of my five kids, two are adults finding their own paths in life and being as successful as they can these days, while the other three are teenagers about to embark on their next journeys within a few years.

[@AyekevZ]

Will this only work if you enlist 2024? I just enlisted ending of this month

[@davidguerrero9804]

By any chance do you know about the reserve I am trying to join and I am curious.

[@anonymousdelta7339]

Great information! But the “benifits” typo cracked me up a little lol

[@johanncuervo4566]

So I’m an E2 PCSing to fort Carson, my sponsor is unsure about the BAH I just want to know if this is 100% accurate bc I plan to live off post with my wife and son. I’m also going as a 25B

[@desertwolfarmory]

Athletes don’t deserve millions we as Americans who sacrificed our lives for everyone else’s freedom deserves millions

[@liquidforce-ml5lf]

Hell... I'd be happy with just 100k 😅

[@essentialfinesse9507]

I see what you’re saying but I don’t think it works like that in any part of the world. Not just America. But yeah I would love to get paid millions too

[@desertwolfarmory]

@@essentialfinesse9507 athletes don’t deserve millions to play with balls

[@maximusm0104]

Over 85% of military jobs you’re not in imminent danger. And athletes get paid millions bc they fill stadiums and turn heads. People pay thousands every weekend totaling billions to see Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, and Lebron James play. Are you doing that?

[@desertwolfarmory]

@@maximusm0104 lmao your not getting the point . If we go to war those 85% is called into battle regardless of your feelings . Because you are soldier first before your job you do . So pipe down

[@austinshannon4197]

I have mike evans mvp so far this year in the nfl. Merry Christmas

[@stanleymontgomery2132]

Yeah the pay is depressing, if you are in a military I highly recommend finding something worth doing cuz the pay isn’t it and from what I’ve heard transitions from military to civilian jobs seem to always go down a crappy route.

[@davidmccartney7577]

WTF🥴 I got $330 monthly in 1973🇺🇸

[@Xibyth]

​@davidmccartney7577 'the pay was fine 50 years ago'. Welcome to the 21st century.

[@davidmccartney7577]

@@Xibyth If you think the pay was fine fifty years ago, then you’re loving it today 🥴

[@danieldixon2005]

Ask your recruiter about going in E-2. No reason why anybody should go in E-1 it took me like 2 hours to rank up it was 9 courses on a computer and a physical fitness test.

[@htown148]

nobody goes in as a E1 lol

[@danieldixon2005]

@@htown148 plenty of people still go in E-1 especially active duty personnel

[@TreDay777]

Not having the knowledge for this got me in as a E1 lol. National Guard. Saw people get promoted in Basic tho. Got my first Promotion a few months or so after basic/osut.

[@htown148]

@demon4626 it's so easy to be promoted to a e2

[@danieldixon2005]

@@TreDay777 when your in the guard I don’t think it’s that big of a deal cause you’re only getting payed for 2 days and you will rank up with time in service. Active duty needs that money tho 😂

[@Gud2B_Blessed]

Hello great video. If you come in as a Police/Correctional Police does that qualify you for E4 for Enlisted? and woukd it differ for Reserves?

[@christopherchaos]

Just having experience in any of those jobs would not allow you to come in as an E4. You can only come in as an E4 if you have a bachelor's degree.

[@magnet_rusmagnet7473]

Hi man ! Quesions I hew hai school GED an I hew CDL driver license. What category I take, E1 or E2 ???

[@ericg1149]

Depends on needs of the Army, when I came in your only needed so many college credits to get in as a SPC.

[@novaskyzero]

I joined in January so I get the normal pay raise ontop of the biyearly pay raise for time in service completed

[@SPC_Storey]

Damn never thought about doing that 😂

[@trunksgt2000]

I’m at E-3 going through AIT, how should I set my TSP? 5% traditional and 5% ROTH? Or should I go 10% ROTH now that I’m making less money than what I would be making in the future? Or would I be missing the match of my contributions if I don’t invest in traditional??

[@jhyzachannel8978]

You go to your my pay account. Log in scroll down at the bottom you can see TSP.

[@ericg1149]

Roth if you plan on making more later on in life, the military match will always go into a traditional because of tax reasons.

[@Anton43218]

Can you please make a video on the 12A MOS?

[@JohnJRambo-zi5fi]

do ur own research if ur thinking anout joining

[@Anton43218]

@@JohnJRambo-zi5fi lol, I'd wish. I'm from eastern europe so it's a no go.

[@Capnqwanch]

I remember joining in 2015 e1 getting 550 a check

[@diorari1153]

So my question is, does the type of job you have in the military really matter then if you get paid the same as everyone else starting off?

[@NiaDiamond00]

Hi. I’m turning 28 in about a week. I plan on leaving this year for basic training. Right now I’m going through waivers and etc. I am a single mother of 3 (my family care plan is already set). If I join as E1 or E2 how much would I get per child? I would like to send money back home every time I get paid for the kids.

[@ericg1149]

Doesn't matter if you have 1 child or ten, rate is the same. Only change is with or without dependants.

[@JoeFrohlich]

Don't all officers get BAS? I thought the military did not provide chow for them.

[@user-xq5xo7ov9h]

What if I started training 2023 and finished in 2024l.

[@lazesq]

so this pay is not including taxes , my son wants to join trying to see how much he will make thanks by the way I was in USMC back in the 90's

[@drewd7824]

Military get payed crazy well now, Anyway you break it down. E-4’s in large cities make the same as a civilian making 130K a year. Their take home pay is the same. Plus military has retirement.

[@rigormendoza9704]

Is it better to join as enlisted or officer with a bachelors degree? If I have to be honest I don’t really know much about the military but I definitely am considering about joining this upcoming summer

[@lapptryhard2825]

Officer all the way. Better pay, better treatment, much higher rank, and better opportunities once you get out.

[@_RK3_]

Go officer ..you will thank yourself later !

[@RogueSeabee]

Officer route

[@tpro106]

@@lapptryhard2825 what would you rec for a senior in highschool, i think its kinda too late to consider the academy but i was thinking of just enlisting

[@lapptryhard2825]

@@tpro106 just go to college and do ROTC. Sign a contract as soon as possible for your branch's ROTC of choice and have college on Uncle Sam's dollar. Each branch has a different vibe to it and you need to see what your ambitions first before you pick a branch. I picked the Army for it's availability and because I wanted to see the world, and I myself will do ROTC to commission. If you really feel you must enlist, study hard for the ASVAB and get at least 110 GT and excel in school otherwise. You can do Green to Gold and comission that way too. Your time in college counts for Active Duty, which can be put towards your 20 if you want to do that. Or just do normal college then go to OCS. Just bear in mind, when giving MOSs for Officers, unlike Enlisted, MOSs aren't guaranteed (at least for the army). You can't walk up to the recruiter and request 35A the same way you can request 35F. Any which way, you have to compete for your MOS. For the Army, West Point gets it first, then ROTC, then OCS. I'm not sure about the other branches. But officer life IS better and I'd recommend it over enlisting. Only way I'd reccomend enlisting is if you don't want to deal with officer politics and drama, and if you want less responsibility.

[@abizainalcala1740]

I joined since September 5th and I came in as a E2 I’m still only getting about 1800$ a month each check is around 900 something and sometimes even lower at like 800 something

[@DeionSC2]

Taxes.

[@Dalpha101]

Damn I got a little over 700

[@CheerfullyCynical829]

Deserve has nothing to do with it. It's basic natural supply and demand. Professional athletes perform a service that is in relatively very short supply, and has extreme demand from people willing to shell out huge amounts of money to watch them do it.

[@markfennell1604]

just look at it this way. if you are single at least your food and housing is free. in a real world you would have to pay both. so the only thing you should be paying is your car payment if you have one.

[@pyrexplayboy5077]

@@markfennell1604 + WiFi, car insurance, phone bill, fuel, maintenance for your vehicle

[@favianrodriguez2813]

If you are married, do you recieve BAH when you are in basic? Or BAH only comes in when you reach your duty station? I enlisted in the marine corps and am shipping out to basic in September. Im getting married in june so id like to be able to send my spouse money when im at basic.

[@christopherchaos]

You will get BAH for the location your spouse is at while in training and then it will be switched to your duty station when your trainingnis over.

[@favianrodriguez2813]

@@christopherchaos awesome, that's what my recruiter told me, but wanted to confirm with you since you have the experience and are an outside source. I appreciate your reply..your videos are very helpful!

[@anonymousm9113]

@@christopherchaos To elaborate on the system a little, anytime you are on temporary duty (including training), deployed, or even on transition leave, you'll continue to receive BAH for your original duty station or home of record. In 2005, I came down on orders to Korea due to my PCS date not being updated. I was willing to go, since I'd been on station in DC for only eight months, meaning my one-year unaccompanied tour in Korea would have seen over $20k in BAH alone while I lived in the barracks and my wife and kids stayed with family. Those orders were cancelled, but when I found myself with about five months of retirement leave in 2022, incidentally stationed back in the National Capital Region, I moved back to the home I purchased much further South and pocketed about $6k over what I would have had I been stationed down here (nearly $15k vs. $9k).

[@jurban611]

Notification platoon

[@davidledezma5608]

Best example I've ever heard. Everyone else doesn't explain well.

[@Bobbywasabi808]

Do you get to use any of the BAH money for other things or is it just for your rent ?

[@evantorres4147]

depends, usually if your stationed somewhere in the U.S. your BAH is given as a flat rate amount for your area and you can use that to get housing at or under said amount. its your choice to get a house that meets the amount given but if you choose to live somewhere that costs less than the total BAH amount, your able to pocket the rest of the amount left over. im stationed overseas and usually its not the same as BAH in the U.S., you are given a flat rate amount that you can use based on the area your stationed at but you can only receive the exact amount of what the house costs. therefore you wont be able to pocket any of the leftover amount given to you. basically BAH is alot better if your stationed somewhere in the U.S. than it is overseas. hopefully that answered your question.

[@Bobbywasabi808]

@@evantorres4147 thank you

[@masteroogway8254]

Yes you can, I my BAH is about 2k and my mortgage is only $900 a month so I get to use the rest of the money for whatever I want :)

[@n8te__]

Jan something? Their gonna raised the military pay. I heard .

[@alhambra1]

Can you do a video with the military pay increase of 5.2% please

[@wavy1002]

this is it guy

[@isaacaiz5436]

lol 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@alhambra1]

@@isaacaiz5436 what’s so funny

[@alhambra1]

😂 😂

[@isaacaiz5436]

The description of the video states 5.2% pay increase and you didn’t see it so I thought it was funny that you comment before looking. That’s what’s so funny

[@hambdula6100]

So how much do you have left as an E-1 after tax? Average tax rate

[@htown148]

Most pay no income tax

[@ChrisJohnson-cr2dn]

@@htown148 you mean the pay they already took out?

[@christophersalazarbonilla6362]

I get paid 720 after taxes and everything

[@MasterVader512]

you get Fed tax, state tax (if Applicable), Meal Deduction(around 400 a month), life insurance, and TSP ( if applicable) You literally end up losing 1/3 of your base pay. Not worth joining the military….

[@lelandgaunt9985]

@@htown148 Soldiers pay income tax out of their check.

[@ricardohurtado6340]

Is there any extra money if you have children as well as a spouse?

[@anonymousm9113]

No, the only extra money you get is from your housing allowance (BAH), either with or without dependents. It's based on expected housing needs based on rank, so it can be a bit unbalanced. For example, I had two kids when I joined as an E-1, but my BAH was based on me needing only a small apartment for a wife and [maybe] infant. A 35-year-old MAJ with a spouse but no children would be expected to live in a much larger house. Looking at my current area, an E-1 would get $1600 while an O-4 would get $2300, regardless of the number of children they have.

[@QuestUvLee]

And how much getting taken out due to taxes ?

[@ericg1149]

Depends on what your state residence is.

[@deewest1472]

Taxes then if you are single they deduct $300 out for food 😂😂😂

[@patrickmambo3836]

E1 1865 × 130= 242,450 Kenyan Shillings, wow i bet service members invest well there in the states, 242k monthly is hell alot of money here in Kenya

[@theoneandonly5570]

I thought if you did 4 or 3 years high school jrotc you will go in as a E-3

[@andrw_lane]

Not Enough

[@iPlagueX]

One thing that should be changed is that BAH should not be accounted for when calculating an hourly wage. Base pay and BAH should be used only since if you live on base they take all your BAH anyways.

[@christopherchaos]

Would not be a even comparison though because on the civilian side they don't give you a free house to live in. So you still need to factor in what that free housing would be worth.

[@Jodywithawhy]

@@christopherchaos I don't understand how people don't understand this. Great video nevertheless.

[@Me-eb3wv]

@@christopherchaostrue. Housing alone can take off anywhere from 50%-75% if your check in the civilian world. So a civilian $50k salary doesn’t have much spending power after taxes, housing, insurance, car costs of ownership and food.

[@TERROR593_]

How much do you get paid after boot camp?

[@ericg1149]

Your pay starts day 1.

[@0wnageclan]

I made e4 a month ago and I just got paid 890$ 💀

[@lightbear939]

After taxes?

[@masteroogway8254]

Same :(

[@Jay-nv7ho]

My E2 pay is $860

[@leesadaniels1079]

How can you qualify for BAH if you’re single?

[@christopherchaos]

In the Army it would usually be if you are an officer or E7 and above. In some cases if the barracks are over full but they will give the BAH to the higher ranking soldiers in the barracks first.

[@ericg1149]

Depends on rank and housing availability. Most duty locations E5 and below live in the barracks, and if you live on base housing, they take all your BAH. You would have to get a statement of nonavailabilty (no space for you to live on post).

[@straydog2002]

When I went in the military as a E-1 in 1978 420.00 a month.

[@mooviedude141]

Man i do not miss the sad sad pay of being enlisted...

[@TXlowlifeTX]

Saved soooo much money doing chow hall/gym routine my contract while saving these three deployments. Only to be on my way out and it’s every E-5 pay check I get to keep MAYBE 300-400 of it. Pay is absolute dog shit.

[@issahawal3230]

Damn, the army don't pay, no thank you, o will stay with my warehouse job that brings me $2000 a month,I got pension as well with my ware house and 40k match..I always thought the military makes crazy money 😅

[@Me-eb3wv]

How many hours a week do you work

[@ericg1149]

You have to consider the benefits, Healthcare can be crazy expensive if you have a family, BAH or rent free, BAS, Special duty pay, etc can go a long way when you don't have many to no bills to pay.

[@stinkystu1]

It doesn't matter what you make if your people refuse to support you.

[@rumrain838]

As an E1 who has been in about 7 months, I make 787 dollars every 2 weeks.

[@TheScorpian56]

Enlisted or reserves?

[@rumrain838]

@@TheScorpian56 enlisted

[@TheScorpian56]

@@rumrain838 oh boy. Im planning on enlisting

[@dustin612]

You should be looking at the military to get yourself established in life. It is definitely not a place to get rich.

[@ericg1149]

Yep, way easier ways to earn money vs time.

[@deewest1472]

I got the answer....not enough 😂😂😂

[@josh_kage8613]

They decreased my cola increase my base pay so im making the same momey but price keep going up because of our shitty government

[@plug8227]

Holy shit a kid fresh out of high school working at Amazon can be making the same amount of money as a E4 our at ups aint no way the military being that stingy with they money 💀 bro and if you work at Amazon for a good year and you get a pay raise every 3 month- (starts day one )at Amazon too You get payed as a o-1 and if your at ups three years your making way more then a o-1 and you get the same benefits that the military gets besides the “exclusive stuff “ if you can even call it exclusive nowadays but that's crazy man I didn't know they got paid that little the government literally just throw scraps at the soldiers that'd BS

[@christopherchaos]

Umm... no. You might need to watch the full video to understand how it works or get someone to explain it to you because starting pay at Amazon is less than an E4 with free food and housing.

[@aishawilliams3700]

Amazon doesn’t give you free healthcare, GI Bill, VA Loan, or housing, food, etc

[@JasmineMartinForeverASaint]

So by the time you're out of basic, you should have around $5,594 dollars in your account

[@davidmartin8301]

I got 2600 💀

[@deewest1472]

Not true

[@OverlordAlpha]

Not even half of that

[@ericg1149]

Shit when I got out of basic and AIT I had 16k not including my enlistment bonus.

[@nickythao3434]

Back in 2018, I was making $600 per check as an E-1. I question what I was doing because a McDonald worker gets paid more. Compared to the civilian side, they pay you for every single hour you work plus OT pay.

[@tonyg5292]

You were only making 1200 a month ??

[@nickythao3434]

@@tonyg5292 yes until I got promoted

[@killeanmcchesney5138]

The answer in short is not enough to convince me to ever join. Not worth it at all

[@hindloulou3526]

So you received help for your rent or not ?

[@christopherchaos]

If you are married then yes. You receive BAH which is a housing allowance to use to pay rent. If you are single then no because you will live in the barracks and don't pay rent for that.

[@An-mm5nu]

@@christopherchaos What about college dorms does it get cover even if you’re single ?

[@christopherchaos]

@@An-mm5nu If you are on active duty you would not be in collage dorms because you are not going to school. If you are in the reserves and going to collage then they don't cover your cost of living or a place to live because you are part time.

[@ericg1149]

Barracks = college dorms

[@TheBlackhorse1954]

In 1972 an E-1 made $288 dollars a month, and we only got paid once a month. Crap, an E-9 with over 26 years service only made $1,045 a month. Privates make more now than an E9 did then.

[@JasmineMartinForeverASaint]

That's the equivalent of $2,079.74 today, so...y'all got paid just a lil under what it is today

[@sanangelo7926]

Inflation will do that. It what happens when money printers go brrrr

[@antoniocollazo5848]

⁠@@JasmineMartinForeverASaint my friend, that is not a little bit under. It’s actually a good amount over. $2000, that it is what a E3 would be making today. so they used to get pay more than what we get now.

[@dm75thRanger]

I'm glad to see that military pay is still a joke. Your hourly rate is way off. Who works 8 hours a day in the military. Try using a real average workday. It breaks down to a realistic hourly rate of around 4.00 an hour. If the military had to pay overtime, a lot of the hurry up and wait would disappear fast.

[@xxzenn01xx9]

Its kinda lame that you dont get any bah and baf if your single. Thats pretty huge imo

[@hollywoodclipp]

Fr like I get it and don’t get it at the same time like I think you should only be in for 2 years to get bah not like a specific rank

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Depends on your command and how responsible you are. 1st Cav allowed me to move out the B’s.

[@lawrenceleverton7426]

Its discrimination. That needs to change. A single peep gets paid less for the same job.

[@roberthunter6927]

Voters should think carefully about how their military should be structured. Let's face it, governments can make some silly decisions about sending it's soldiers off to war. For example, some people are patriots who would gladly give their lives to DEFEND their own country, but overseas deployment? Not so much. So the most common situation is that you sign up, and that is a blank check you give to the government to do anything with your body for any reason, so you might end up as a body-bag or a cripple. But it does not have to be that black and white. For example, during WW2 in the South African Army, you could have the option of being "Red-Tabbed". [it means you volunteer for overseas service]. This was because the bulk of European South Africans were either of British or Boer heritage. The "Brits" wanted to fight on Britain's side, but the Boers [Dutch] did not, most of them feeling more aligned with Germany. The Australian Army has had similar schemes. If you joined the regular army, you would have to serve anywhere, but if you were in the Citizen's Military Forces [like the US National Guard], or reserve, you had to serve on Australian territory, but were not required to serve overseas. As New Guinea was part of Australian territory back in WW2, a lot of Australian militia [CMF] found themselves in N.G or Timor, because the regular army divisions were serving in North Africa or Malaya/Singapore! At the end of the day, you have to give a volunteer soldier the option of what hill to die on. For example, most who served in Vietnam [US, ANZAC's, etc] didn't think that they should have been there, and that their government's badly miscalculated. In World War One Australia had a population of only 4+ million people. 416,809 enlisted, all volunteers. That was 38.7 per cent of the total male population aged between 18 and 44. [They died for God King and Country, but some were just adventurers]. Of these, an estimated 58,961 died, 166,811 were wounded, 4098 went missing or were made prisoners of war, and 87,865 suffered sickness. Australia maintained five large infantry divisions and a mounted division [with some New Zealanders] overseas and in combat. Infantry battalions with a TOE of over 1000 soldiers could come back from a single battle in a single day with massive casualties, particularly in France. Lots of KIA, WIA, Sick [trench warfare was not healthy] , and a few POWs and MIA. Perhaps only a hundred men left standing. WW2 was much the same, but with some conscription. over 700,00 served in green from a total population of 7 million. Australia lost 34,000 service personnel during World War II. Total battle casualties were 72,814. Over 31,000 Australian became prisoners-of-war. Of these more than 22,000 were captured by the Japanese; by August 1945 over one third of them had died in the appalling conditions of the prisoner-of-war camps. Most of the POWs were captured in Singapore. But by the beginning of the "hot" war in Vietnam, Australia could only deploy a weak brigade, and only with the use of conscripts. So deployment went from a single infantry battalion battle group [with a few guns and some light armour] in 1965, to a 3 battalion task force with modest armour, helo, engineer, sigs, med, logistics, etc, in 1968. And today some of the short-fall in bodies is being made up with technology of all types and drones. Every soldier, sailor etc is valuable. So no matter what your politics, quality national leadership is important. Perhaps if leaders had fewer "toys" [ie people in "green"] to deploy overseas, they might make better decisions about who and where to fight. So this is a valid question to ask of your politician or armed forces recruiter. You are OK with dying for your country [if necessary], but YOU, not them, get to choose where. Despite the claims of religion, the only life you are absolutely sure of, is the one you are experiencing right now. All that said, as an old soldier, I say go for it, but with your eyes wide open. The military will make you the best you can be.

[@esbino5815]

So you only get paid good if you’re married and get BAH?

[@louiedelahanty6493]

How much pay raise does veterans get that has disability?

[@christopherchaos]

It's a 3.2% increase for VA disability.

[@albertcortez5951]

Terrible review

[@richiemclaughlin6127]

I GOT MARRIED WHEN I WAS IN THE ARMY THAY NEVER GAVE ME ANYTHING FOR OFF POST LIVING OR FOR FOOD. I WAS A VIETNAM COMBAY VET. 1966 TO 1967 I GOT NOTHING

[@11conormcloughlin]

They don’t care about someone like you. You’re useless to them. They want young guys like me because the recruitment quotas are terribly low while we’re on the brink of being involved in multiple new wars.

[@evantorres4147]

i cant believe how bad this country treated our vietnam vets. you sir deserved wayyyy better than what you received. thank you for your service sir. fair winds and following seas.

[@tylerharrigan4525]

Let play sports for 3mil a year but you couldnt do that if it wasnt from the militarty they need paid more lives are worth alot

[@htown148]

My brother got a 20k bonus to sign up...the pay aint even that bad now

[@TXlowlifeTX]

I remember young PFC’s sitting next to me while I’m denying reenlistment in the career planners office, asking what happened to their bonuses they were promised. Only to be told “if you extend for five more months then you’ll get the bonus. What’s five more months?” Shit is a scam, it IS that bad and worse.

[@htown148]

@@TXlowlifeTX they give you the bonus up-front now

[@Gmod_gaming]

I thought it’s 50k

[@htown148]

@@Gmod_gaming where?? You talking about officers

[@Gmod_gaming]

@@htown148my Army recruiter said there’s a 50k sigh up bonus , that was a year ago tho.