2024 Pivot Switchblade First Look & Test Ride

[@AventuraEstaAhiFuera]

I look forward to all of your videos... and I wasn't subscribed haha. Im glad you mentioned that little bit at the end about subscribing, I would love to help you out. I think knowing you have a real person job and not needing income from this makes you a lot more valuable out here in the interwebz. thanks man.

[@mtbyumyum]

Awesome! Thank you! Yeah, the reality is "likes, comments and subs" really do make a big difference in this channel growing and having it reach more people...

[@Ridewithneto]

Hey Jason, just wanted to say of all the recent Pivot Switchblade videos yours is the first one I clicked on and really looked forward to. You tend to focus less on the marketing garbage that most reviewers spend too much time regurgitating and spend more time with actual riding characteristics & comparisons. This is super handy. My buddy and I are huge MTB nerds who often memorize geo numbers from various bikes just to discuss and we always mention your reviews. Your Trail 429 videos played a huge role in me selling my V2 Switchblade for a 429. Thanks!

[@mtbyumyum]

Wow, thank you! Like you, I prefer my video review style. It was the entire reason for me starting this channel. Anyone can look up prices, builds, geo and bla bla bla... I try to create reviews that give the viewer a chance to understand how the bike rides and feels

[@patrickhall6494]

I’m still here, waiting for the SB140 and switchblade back to back video 😊

[@tamserenity]

I hope you recover quickly from your surgery and everything goes well!!

[@mtbyumyum]

Thank you! It's a pretty basic surgery with a quick recovery.

[@ryanhobbs9300]

Can’t wait for the back to back video with the 140. I’m very happy to hear it’s not as chattery in the rear. That’s the only reason I sold my last SB. I’m so close to calling Salt Cycles for a new build 140 LR! But still loving my Ripley off your advice, such a fun bike. Big prayers out to you and a speedy recovery my friend!

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks for the well wishes🙏

[@shaybull4538]

I agree, I think Pivot have the edge over Yeti at the moment.

[@chawkins45ify]

I'm just here to check on yumyums fence and its looking sharp!

[@mtbyumyum]

haha thank you!! btw love this comment lol

[@matthewobrien9969]

Thanks for the review! I actually bought my previous gen switchblade because of your review of it and I still love it.

[@mtbyumyum]

Nice. Glad I could help!

[@jmyers6175]

I bought my 22 blue switchblade because of your review. Hope your surgery went well.

[@mtbyumyum]

Now that was a great bike! Also, it fit me much better. The medium on Pivot is now a little too big for me.

[@bike_somm]

Always feels like coming home watching and riding along with you in your vids bud! Much respect and Pivot is rocking the MTB world for sure!

[@mtbyumyum]

haha Thank you... glad to publish another video... hope to get back in the rhythm of things this year!

[@rogerphillips6381]

He's back! Looking forward to more great reviews in 2024!

[@mtbyumyum]

Hey! Thank you... hope to publish more regular content this year!!!

[@buzzycoyote2573]

I like how you actually show the bike.

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks!

[@phantasma2323]

I love and own a 24 SB. Awesome in every way and cant think of anything to replace it with. However, the Forbidden Druid V2 might be the only thing Id consider if I could just demo one. I think you’d break the internet if we could see you on one as its something you wouldn’t normally ride.

[@curtrobertson6799]

He’s alive!!!!

[@mtbyumyum]

haha yeah... it's been a minute lol

[@marcid6527]

😂😂😂

[@mhowell13]

Glad to see you back in the saddle. Look forward to the long term review.

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks!

[@victorportillo6282]

I have been interested in Pivots for a longtime. Saw your video on the Mach 4 sl. I thought I wanted a 429 until your video. I now own a Mach 4sl. WOW. WHAT A BIKE!! Just as you were so excited after rode one I understand why. Such an awesome bike. Thank You. In the panhandle of Texas.

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks for sharing... yep! The M4 is a special bike for sure!

[@nckporter]

Purchased my second hip pack with code yumyum!

[@mtbyumyum]

Nice! They're awesome!

[@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy]

I just got a 2023 Switchblade on account of the closeout price. What I find interesting, it that the new geometry is lower, longer, slacker, with a steeper seat tube. All of those things happen if I just put a $100 1 degree shift headset on my 2023 bike. I know it's not exact, but the head angle would be that same as the new bike, and everything else moves in that direction. That said, my steeper 2023 geometry feels like it steers too slow to me, since the bike I normally ride has a 69.5 degree head tube. I almost fell into a ravine over the weekend, because I wasn't used to the slower steering. I had to grab onto a tree to not plummet a hundred feet or more. So I'll take the 66.2 degrees for now and just try to get used to it. We don't all have to follow the trends, lol.

[@himboslice_]

switchblade is at the top of my list to pair with my v4 ripley. Confused why there are not more retailers selling the brunch ride v6 switchblade. Want a bike capable for the parks(frisco rec area park, vail, copper, wp tressel etc..) and for more intense trails around where I live. Probably 80% more rough local trails and 20% lift access parks (weekends). I feel obligated to buy from salt cycles for my next bike just because of how relatable and helpful yumyum is.

[@mtbyumyum]

Thank you! Give Chris a call and see what he can do for you on a custom brunch ride build🤘 8019438502

[@topspot4834]

Great review ... I don't know who Pivot hired or what they did, but since around 2020 they did a complete 180 and now they have one of the nicest looking lineups out there. Frame design and choice of colors has been great, plus as Jason mentioned, they offer a ton of build options. As far as this Switchblade, it's sick, but kinda like iphones they're starting to plateau ... Much better off getting the previous version at a 35% discount.

[@danielmasset4153]

...hope your knee surgery goes well and you're not out of commission too long...I'm having total knee replacement mid Feb. and hate the fact that I'm going to down for awhile, especially coming into bike season...been doing a lot of pre hab and riding weather permitting so hopefully that will expedite recovery...keep the reviews coming...!!!

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks. Good luck on your recovery too!

[@mfa81]

I'd still take the SB140 home specially when yeti offers framesets and don't force you to buy a complete build! :-) SB140 is a great bike!

[@phantasma2323]

Talk to you dealer about that

[@barbbrazes869]

You do a great job with the reviews!!! Very informative! Thanks! Good luck with knee surgery!

[@mtbyumyum]

Hey, thanks! Never had a surgery before but it's just a knee scope and the doc made it sounds pretty simple. Thanks!

[@gerhardbudaker9371]

I love your videos!!! Please compare the Switchblade to the new Specialized Stumpjumper 15.

[@a8f235]

I bought the PRO XT/XTR Switchblade build in 2022 and I had not been mountainbiking for 8 years. Now having gained more understanding I feel that I actually have the right bike for me because there's no one bike that can do it all, so there's always going to be pros *_and_* cons. My main gripe with my bike was initially that the seattube angle is too slack, and to be honest I've just learned to deal with it through each ride. Every bike you need to apply the technique to that specific bike to get anywhere, so it's just one of them things. Now seeing and hearing some thoughts on this new iteration, I feel that I am glad I have the bike I do have, because I have no need for a more aggressive bike. My bike is like a mellow mini-enduro that is mostly a trailbike, but can often surprise you with how capable it actually is. Not a bikepark bike by any means, so just got to be clear on that. Personally I've just not had the bike complain even if I do push it, and I just know the bike is up for another ride before I am myself. I will be swopping the stock 175mm cranks to 165mm for this season to limit pedal strikes, but other than that it's just staying on top of maintenance and heading out to ride. I'm never going to sell this bike because to me you loose so much money just shortly after it's new, so it's better to just put money into maintenance because a well working bike will put a smile on your face.

[@Sunshine-wn5ev]

You still have your Ripley ?? Your channel is the reason I got my 2023 v4s. Did you ever ride a Ripley with the dvo topaz rear shock ? Just upgraded mine and WOW is it a greet trial bike. Yes it lost some speed but well worth it !! Would love to know how it would stacks up to other bike with the upgraded 140mm fork and dvo topaz shock. Thanks for the vids 🤙🏻

[@mtbyumyum]

No Ripley right now.... I've got the Yeti SB140 LR, Cannondale Scalpel SE and Pivot Shuttle SL

[@moynge]

Awesome to get a winter glimpse of MTB yumyum! Nice that the new Switchblade upped its descending capabilities to distinguish it more so from the Trail 429... it will be interesting to see if the next iteration of the Trail 429 will beef up its rowdy factor too. Thanks for another entertaining and informative review!

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, I think with the Mach 4 being as capable as it is, they might click the Trail 429 up just a little bit or at least click up the Enduro version of the T429

[@Cartsp70]

@@mtbyumyum It’s interesting that a lot of companies make the bikes longer and slacker but a focused trail bike like the SC 5010 for example is just as capable on the descents , it just takes a bit more skill and you’re 💯 right it’s all about how the bike “ feels “ actually out on the trail 👍🏾

[@GaryMetzker]

Just got a Pivot Trail 429. Based on your recommendation I went with Salt Cycles. Those guys don’t disappoint, way better deal than I can get out in CA. They let me customize the hell out of it which was great. I totally agree the Pivot is super quiet! Almost no sound coming out of this bike. Downsides, their paint job and color is really meh. And then tend to be super big. I’m 5’11 on the large and thinking of picking up a smaller stem. Still I’m really happy with the Trail 429, super fast and great for the local trails in SoCal.

[@mtbyumyum]

Nice. Glad they took care of you! Hard to beat the T429 🤘

[@bryanklinginsmith3056]

Thanks for the review. I purchased my last bike a 2022 Rascal Revel due to your reviews and has worked out great. Thinking of buying a second bike, I'm 5'-7" and currently like the sizing on the medium Rascal. My son who is 5'-5" finds it a little big. Thinking after your review a small Switchblade might work good for both of us. Do you think it climbs as well as the Rascal, I assume it would descend better due to increase in travel and a little more slack headtube.

[@mtbyumyum]

Without riding the Rascal and this back to back, I would say this would feel more efficient and just cruise up the trail better than the Rascal. In very tricky bits of trail I can't say... both climb demanding sections of trail very well tho. Between the two, and if they both fit well, I would go with the Switchblade over the Rascal for sure! My size medium Firebird was just a little too cramped for me but I still put several hundred miles on the bike two seasons ago.

[@uditnaik5852]

Thanks for sharing. Definitely helps get a perspective. Any thoughts on doing a comparison video between the Switchblade and the SB140?

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks. Yep. Comparison video will probably be in May

[@Bessunger]

Thanks for this detailed presentation. I think about substituting my '21 Switchblade and wonder whether I should just get the newer Switchblade or one of its competitors. I feel so comfortable. What about the comparison to its rival bikes you mentioned?

[@AZMTB]

Hey Jason, thanks for this! I love my v2 Megatower, but it definitely feels "too big" a lot of the time and I have had the itch for a trail bike lately. Might have to run down to Pivot and demo one.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, it might surprise you!

[@beastman101]

I'm eagerly awaiting a refresh to the Trail 429. I'm on a 2020 V2 and it's been my favorite bike I've ever owned but want to see what the next version looks like. I would love a Switchblade but the Trail 429 seems to cover most of what I ride 90% of the time, it is just such a good climber!

[@mikem4215]

Ya me too. However if this 2024 switchblade release, which is really just a minor refresh, is an indication of what may come to trail 429 then not expecting much change at all. Maybe a degree or half degree of change in certain areas of geometry but that’s it I’m thinking.

[@christianespino2422]

Great video review as always, Jason! Mind if I ask what you're surgery you're having on your knee? Hope all goes well.

[@mtbyumyum]

Torn medial meniscus.

[@Cartsp70]

Great short review J as always, I noticed that you kinda lost interest in the Revel bike’s although you said it’s like the Mercedes Benz of mountain bikes “ Do the Revel bikes just not quite hit the spot for you or is it just because you like the Yeti better? 👍🏾

[@mtbyumyum]

Honestly, all of the revel bikes I’ve ridden have been squeaky. Pretty annoying. Also, the Geo has been a little off for me on the most recent rail29 and rascal. The one I like the best was probably the 27.5 rail

[@Cartsp70]

@@mtbyumyum Aha cool , 😎 yeah I hear that , I think you and Bkxc definitely prefer a quiet bike which is 💯 understandable, these bikes are $10K and any noise is annoying for sure 👍🏾

[@Cartsp70]

@@mtbyumyum I’m seriously considering an Ibis !! I’ve never even sat on an Ibis bike but I’m going to check out some this weekend, they look incredible, I see Bkxc in his last ride , His bike is so cool and it’s silent on the trails , all you can hear are the tyres !! Nice 👌🏽

[@billw_mtb3220]

Very tempting. I really liked my trail 429 although the large was just a tad too small for me. The large SB might fit just right. I need to get test ride one of these.

[@mtbyumyum]

Hey Bill. This new blade doesn't feel as quick as the T429....

[@jasonfenton7366]

My personal bike is the current model 429 Enduro.. after spending two days on the new one, I’m convinced that I’m going to sell my 429 shortly. The longer reach allows me to go away from the 50mm stem. The new bike climbs every much as well as a 429 and is far better dh.

[@starhead100]

More YumYum reviews!!! So stoked

[@mtbyumyum]

👍🤘

[@TheNationalTrails]

Having ridden in freezing temps up in Iowa, I learned how the rear suspension performance drastically changes once the rear shock temps reach near freezing. That said, wondering if this Blade will be more active come spring/summer; promting for quicker/stronger rider body English. Will keep checking back and hear how things progress. Enjoy!

[@JJMassar]

Damn, this makes me feel like a need the new version. I have the 2023 Switchblade and you said this fixed my complaints from my bike.

[@mtbyumyum]

haha sorry dude... I always hear people tell me, "Hey, love your KZbin channel... you've made me spend a lot of money over the past few years" hahaha

[@burkebair]

Nice seeing a new video from you. I've owned a '21 Switchblade and currently on a '22 Firebird. The Firebird rides so well on everything, I'm curious if the new Switchblade would be a better option now. I had made my '21 SB into a mini Firebird which is why I made the change. The big 170/165 Firebird really fits 20% of my riding but I don't really get penalized that much on the other 80%.

[@hibiscus_n_gravy]

Welcome back!

[@mtbyumyum]

Eash, I know... thanks! I really do plan on publishing more this year tho...

[@marcid6527]

It’s such a sick bike! Colors are so rad!!

[@mtbyumyum]

That pink!!!!

[@JAFO.]

Yo Jason whatever happened to the back-to-back with the yeti, I am anxiously awaiting that comparison my man, and I hope your knee is feeling good and working like new!

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, I need to find time to make that happen.... super busy with work and kid stuff right now....

[@mrspaghetti6303]

@@mtbyumyum Looking forward to it.

[@CCWclassic]

I just have one question... does the lab ustere hip pack hang off your hips like a construction workers tool belt?

[@mtbyumyum]

haha too many ads?!

[@CCWclassic]

@mtbyumyum no lol just paying homage to a classic yum yum line.

[@djjmann]

FINALLY Pivot increased the reach and wheelbase. The entire reason I did not buy the previous Switchblade, the large just felt cramped and twitchy (im 6'1'') and the XL was much too big.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, I think a lot of people will be very happy with this update!

[@ericsplayland]

Great video. I was hoping Pivot was updating the Switchblade. I am looking forward to the head to head comparison with the Yeti LR. A head to head with the Firebird would be great. I keep going back and forth between the Firebird, Switchblade and the Yeti LR.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, good suggestion on the firebird vs switchblade... I think I can make that happen!

[@jonthesailorman]

Looking forward to seeing how this compares to the new Rascal.

[@johnharrison6522]

Thought that was what you were riding last week when I ran into you.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, glad we got a few days of good weather to ride here... otherwise I was planning on heading down south. Next time say hi!

[@mattlarsen8585]

I had no idea that rush was rideable right now! Thanks for the great review as always

[@nckporter]

Lower parts were ridable, no longer with this rain :(

[@mtbyumyum]

I was on Rattler, Gasline, North Loop and Limelight 🤙

[@danostler468]

Hey Jason, I've watched a ton of your content, some of the videos over and over. I hope the surgery went well! ***I thought*** I had landed on the SB140LR until I saw this video. The Switchblade Brunch Ride is on sale at my LBS right now and cheaper by quite a bit that a comparably equipped SB140LR. I am an old-schooler, cutting my teeth in the 90's on a hardtail so the experience you seemed to have on the SB140LR sounded FANTASTIC (when it seems to have edged out the 2022-23 Switchblade). Yeti has also always been "the dream bike". Now, I don't know what to do 😀. We just attempted a day at Deer Valley but were doomed with horrible weather and a pretty bad crash (not mine) so my demo day on the Switchblade didn't go off great and didn't give it a fair fight. I was hoping you had time to compose your thoughts and comparisons about the 2024 Switchblade and the SB140LR. You going to be able to put that together soon?

[@mtbyumyum]

Thank you. Surgery went great and now months later, my knee has never been better! Sorry you ran into bad weather.... bummer. Although the two bikes are different, the biggest factor would probably be sizing. The medium Switchblade no longer fits me and is just too big. For that reason alone I would still personally take the sb140 over the switchblade. Both are very good, different, but very good!

[@danostler468]

@@mtbyumyum Thanks for the quick reply and thanks for the guidance and transparency!

[@Biking_with_Akiva]

Hope you are recovering well 🤙🏾💯 great review

[@mtbyumyum]

I appreciate it… hope to be back on the bike in 4 short weeks!🤞

[@dustinbjohnson]

That color is awesome! 🔥

[@mtbyumyum]

The pink one would look excellent on your Idaho trails!

[@dustinbjohnson]

@@mtbyumyum we definitely need to link up bro!

[@scottkouns8578]

Another excellent video. Can’t wait to see your longer term and comparisons. I have the current 429 but this bike looks like a next bike contender

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks! It climbs really well and if you're hitting the top end speed of your T429, this would make an excellent choice!

[@scottkouns8578]

Great to hear.

[@scottfast03]

Love it. This video was perfect timing. I’m going to test ride one this weekend. I usually ride a Large Yeti but in looking at their geo on the website I might try a medium first and see. Especially since you said you’d likely size down. I’m 5’11” but have a long upper torso and shorter legs.

[@Elitenano2730]

Sb140-150, switchblade-firebird. Or norco sight c1 its so hard.currently ride a wreckoning and a mega 275

[@aaronthomas3499]

Hey Jason, Watched your Firebird video after this one as I am debating between the two. Im a local, race in the weekly mini enduro series and Jacobs ladder to Rush is a staple for me. I keep flip flopping between the two bikes but the adjustment to the switchblade definitely caught my eye. Would love some insight since you've had time on both.

[@TomCollins-c4h]

I hope you get a chance to try out the new Epic and Epic Evo!

[@endoalley680]

I hope the knee surgery went well. Good luck and good rehab.

[@SeanThompson-mj6ky]

You should try a Banshee Prime. I have mine setup as a 135/160mm with Berd Hawk30 wheels.

[@thel1zardking]

New bikes always feel great! I do wonder if the gap in perceived quality would be as wide if your SB140 got a lower leg, air can service, and fresh bearings? 🤔

[@mtbyumyum]

I hear what you’re saying. I sold my sangria purple 140 and got a turquoise one. The turquoise one only has 40 miles on it.

[@coreytatman590]

Thank you for the videos. I have been looking back and forth between this, the mach 6, and Rocky Mountain Altitude. How did this feel in comparison to the Altitude what kind of terrain would you prefer one on vs the other? I am currently living in Washington and looking at options that will get be further into the back country with potentially significant elevation changes. Any thoughts and or recommendations?

[@mtbyumyum]

For longer days in the saddle I think the Switchblade would be better than the Altitude or M6. Just pedals so well and could handle any terrain very well.

[@toddkx2807]

What trail system is that it looks like a blast!

[@TomCollins-c4h]

The wheelbase is almost the same as a Firebird now. at just under 5'7" I would try squeezing in on a small. But then the small only has 440mm of reach.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, sort of tough for me to fit on a pivot right now. Bummer.

[@TomCollins-c4h]

@@mtbyumyum The average guy is like 5'10" and they always complain about being in between a medium and large. I guess that helps them out, broader consumer.

[@TomCollins-c4h]

And not so good for the ladies and shorter guys.

[@kevinmanzo862]

What does lunchride mean is they base makeup?

[@DER_JOHN_BEWEGT]

👋 Hello, have you ever tested a Trek top Fuel 2023 or an opinion about it? Thank you for every tip in advance! 😁

[@johnwheeler7713]

I was in Salt Cycles today to compare the Medium & Small - the guys there mentioned you ultimately decided on the small. We're about the same size and curious to know if you felt like you were making any compromises going Small vs Medium? Everyone tells me 5'8" is a Medium, but I definitely felt stretched out when pedaling it around the lot. I haven't found a Small to try yet, but feel like I should before making any final decisions 🙏 Keep killing it, I love watching your videos!

[@mtbyumyum]

Honestly, if you’re really 5’8”, like me, then I am very sorry to say that Pivot is probably not your brand moving forward. I bought a size small and it felt a bit cramped on the climbing or any flat peddling. The downhill was fun on the small actually, but it just felt too cramped in the end. I messed with stem sizes to make things better, but you’re probably better off looking at the Yeti, SB 140 which in my opinion and experience does everything better than the switchblade anyway…

[@johnwheeler7713]

I confirmed tonight and my height is closer to 5'7" without shoes (though I'm not sure how much shorter you'd need to be to hit that sweet spot for a small). That's disappointing to hear about the Switchblade though, after riding 15 or so high end MTBs over the last few years, the old generation Switchblade stands above the rest (for my riding style), even above my experience on the 2020 SB140. Appreciate the insight though, I think I should ride Small & Medium back to back before I pull the trigger on a new frame 🙏

[@kevinmanzo862]

Would this compare to the new stumpjumper

[@hardmtnbiker]

Do you think it feels my stable than Yeti because of the wider SuperBoost spacing and stronger wheel?

[@justinfournier1285]

Looking forward to your comparison woth the SJ Evo. I might replace my SJ Evo with this bad boy.

[@mtbyumyum]

The sizing is very different. For example, the s3 sj evo fits me perfectly! Like 100% best fit ever for me at 5’8” but this new switchblade is too big…

[@justinfournier1285]

@@mtbyumyum I’m 5’11” and change but 43years old so a L would be more up my alley I think. My SJ Evo S4 is a full custom though so I’d be losing a ton of money on the sale. Hmmmm.

[@mtbyumyum]

If the Switchblade fit me as well as the SJ evo, it would be a no brainer... the dw link is so good!

[@justinfournier1285]

@@mtbyumyum 5’8” seems to fit between 2 sizes but 5’11” seems to fit in the L. But I’ve never ridden a Firebird…

[@ubnaka1]

@@mtbyumyum Do you feel that the Switchblade feels too big for you in the general seated and climbing position? Or standing in the downhill position? I have the current SJ EVO and am interested in switching to the new Switchblade size Medium... My SJ EVO is an S3... I'm your height at 5'8" (but probably shorter legs and longer torso than you). Maybe a Medium Switchblade with a 32mm Stem (I believe the bike comes with a 45mm stem). Thoughts?

[@cliffordrichardc]

dream bike

[@isaacwright7999]

Good luck with your knee surgery buddy. Love your videos. Don't work too hard.

[@mtbyumyum]

Thank you! Should be a speedy recovery.

[@scott48]

Good review as always. Lots to unpack here. For starters, your previous Blade review mentioned at times the bike felt cumbersome while climbing certain sections, maneuvering around. Still feel same w this new launch? Second, I’d be VERY curious to hear your future review on your current Yeti build compared to the new Blade. Agree, fit and finish on Pivot bikes is second to none but, you pay for it. Hard pill to swallow right now when carton of eggs is $10. Mentioned by previous reviewer here, curious to see if Pivot beefs up their Trail 429 at all but seems like they already did or one can just build up there own. I own a Blade now, like it a lot especially when the downhills get choppy. I’d love to however put it up against a Yeti SB 140 to compare apples to apples. Appreciate your work here again. I do value your opinion. Very good. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I also learned that my lbs is not planning on ordering this new Blade yet for their shops because they still have a lot of inventory of “old” Blades in house. Hmmm….Depending on what I decide I might give Salt Cycle a call and order one if I can figure out what to do with my “old” Blade.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, like you, I'm excited to ride this back to back with my sb140... the Switchblade feels really good I'm just afraid it doesn't fit me real well... a little too big.

[@scott48]

I’m about 5’10 on a medium now and I;ve always said for whatever reason the Blade feels cumbersome especially when climbing and navigating through tight trees up a hill. It sounds like based on your review it’s worse now. Longer wheelbase, combersome whereas you feel the Yeti not like that? @@mtbyumyum

[@ccrosby1776]

Thank you.

[@mtbyumyum]

My pleasure!

[@Reportedd]

Do you think the 429 pedals considerably better than the switchblade? I'm looking at both bikes and with both being similar in weight its got me leaning more towards the switchblade for the versatility.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, the t429 pedals a little better and feels a light smaller/lighter under you. I would make your decission between the two bike based on speed. How fast do you need to go and in what sort of terrain? That is usually the biggest deciding factor after fit. Here is a video I did a few years ago along this topic... here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYeWdWyMjp2dj68si=cjhN00334aFfeE1m

[@Fastblack83]

I own a t429 in a large which is a little small for me. I rented a new switchblade in an XL and with the steeper seat tube and longer stays, it climbs better than the 429. I have the enduro build so weight wise it’s really close. Going down was noticeably smoother thanks to the extra travel. I ended up ordering a switchblade and am impatiently waiting.

[@HenryCastro-l4f]

Hopefully you will demo size small. At 5'8" myself the size small looks to be better bike for trail riding. I own a Medium 2020 Trail 429 Endro with 36 fork fork and -1* angleset. I often wish it was a little more plush in rocky AZ terrain. The small Switchblade is actually longer reach and wheelbase than medium 2020 Trail 429.

[@Andrew_._._.]

I always enjoy watching your videos. Recently I am on the lookout for a new bike. I am looking at the pivot Trail 429 the switchblade. I have found a new 2023 trail 429 for $4999 with the fox performance shocks. A new 2022 switchblade with the fox factory shock for $4999. A used 2023 trail 429 enduro for 4900$. Which would you recommend? Most trails here are xc style but some black diamond trails some blue trails roots and rocks. But not many huge long downhills. I am in NC. I want a bike that can handle everything and also plush some. Fast uphills I currently have a giant anthem for a long time I believe a 2015 giant anthem so this will be a huge upgrade. What do you recommend?

[@mtbyumyum]

I’ve never ridden the T429 enduro… you might call Salt Cycles and see what they can do for you… their always happy to help friends of the channel 801-943-8502 👍 and if you’re lighter weight you might also consider the Ibis Ripley!

[@petrjurek6058]

Hi! How would you compare it to Yeti SB 140?

[@mtbyumyum]

I've excited to find out as soon as my trail dry out more... I'll be sure to post a video about it!

[@trentvlak]

Did they change the profile of the frame tubes? It looks more attractive to my eye. Fox shocks are going from terrible to tolerable so bikes ride better now.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, the frame looks a bit more sleek and slightly thinner in area's

[@TRUTHBMXracing]

My only problem with Pivot is the superboost rear hub spacing. Coming from a racing background and also the recent supply shortage. I do not need nor want a bike using parts that can't easily be swapped from one bike to another. I understand that to some degree that is unavoidable. When I have a family of 4 and all of our bikes have boost hubs and I also have built the wheels using the same hub. I can swap wheels from one bike to another with no problem. I also keep parts on hand to replace and rebuild. With the high cost of MTB these days, the superboost is just a thorn in the side for serious riders. I love the way the Switchblade rides and would have bought one all ready if not for this one issue.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yup, me too

[@chrisdiaz9800]

Any plans to demo the Tallboy V5?

[@mtbyumyum]

It’s on the top of my list👍

[@anthonylovings1084]

@@mtbyumyumdefinitely looking forward to hearing your take on the Tallboy. I’ve went through many bikes and always found myself looking for my next bike within days of getting a new bike. The Tallboy changed that for me. 100% content with it. Now just need to find a replacement for my Trek Rail….short travel trail bike + long travel Ebike 😎

[@TomCollins-c4h]

@@anthonylovings1084 Thats what I have been looking for a long time too. Is the Tallboy the bike I have always wanted?

[@anthonylovings1084]

@@TomCollins-c4h that depends on what you are wanting….a bike that is light and efficient enough enjoy XC trails but plush enough for black diamond downhills? Then yes

[@Rich2wheels]

This is probably a far off question. Ive been debating a 5010 and now im wondering if the switchblade would be just as jibby but more capable with the increased travel. Thoughts? I do have a 23 rm instinct currently and would be worried its too similar. No chance to demo one which is brutal for almost 10g

[@mtbyumyum]

Although Ive not ridden the current 5010, I doubt the switchblade would be even remotely similar. The current switchblade is not “jibby” honestly, I really liked the 2023 Instinct.

[@Rich2wheels]

@@mtbyumyum thank you! Very helpful!

[@wadysawjajeo3030]

How would you compare that bike to Trail 429? Is the new Switchblade as good in climbing too? I’m 187cm tall and 485mm reach of SB would be just perfect for me I guess comparing to 475mm in T429, but I very appreciate lower weight of 429 and I suppose it should be more deft and playful. Really curious what wold be better and maximally versatile for me

[@mikem4215]

I’ve ridden both. Coming from a mach 6 and “being used to” the 36 fork I preferred switchblade over trail 429. Both great bikes and the switchblade climbed great both on fire roads and steeper bumps. Plenty efficient for me.

[@andrewpm2]

I've owned Pivot, Ibis and Yeti. I've been waiting for Pivot to come out w a 160/140 bike forever but it never happened. I prefer the DW-Link but wasn't crazy about Superboost. Currently riding a Yeti SB150

[@phantasma2323]

Switchblades been out for several years in that range dude

[@323johnnybravo]

In a bike like this I’d like to see in frame storage, and adjustable headset cups like the stumpy evo and trek fuel Ex. But it’s a dope bike all the same !

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I owned the SJ evo last year and in as much as both those features are neat, I honestly never used the down tube storage once. Never. I did swap out the headset cups but mostly just to try it out. In the end, I think I got along best with the neutral setting anyway... I will also say, the S3 SJ evo has been the best fitting bike I've ever owned... that was the main reason I bought it. Just perfect sizing and overall a pretty great bike.

[@phantasma2323]

Those things are gimmicks. And used less than you think

[@spacedoutboy404]

Before you consider the switchblade, you really need to test a We Are One Arrival in 130mm guise. My recent bike journey has been very similar to yours, I have a 2021 switchblade and 2022 Sworks stumpjumper… the Arrival in 130mm is like The best of stumpy and switchblade meshed into one bike.

[@cliffordrichardc]

compare to 2020 .which better

[@Bessunger]

Sill love my 2021 Switchblade. It confirm that it provides so much confidence to a less skilled driver as me and allows me to follow much more potent bikes in chunkier trails, still being a capable trail- and touring bike doing up to 40 mls and and 5250 feet of elevation (my max tour last year)

[@mtbyumyum]

Wow, big ride🤘

[@fsquared64]

Pivot makes beautiful and very capable bikes. My only issue is that they’ve become so overpriced.

[@mtbyumyum]

yeah, all bikes are pretty pricy right now... that's why I would personally take the Yeti SB140 over this bike.... it's still on sale at Salt Cycles

[@carlosmedrano3549]

@@mtbyumyum i’m actually looking for a new bike just not sure what to get lol i’m not bailing with money so want to get one that will last a while i know servicing it is part of it but looking at yeti sb135 or sb140 and pivot switch blade there is also other brands

[@spiffpilot2589]

You get what you pay for in quality.

[@fdtank81]

Gotta wait for them sales

[@DownHillgamer]

​@@carlosmedrano3549 polygon makes real nice priced bikes with good components too

[@adamcoppock5018]

I know that bike companies will not do this for good reason, but I wish they would slot another size in their line ups now that mtbs are super long. I have a Spur and theres quite a jump between the M and L.

[@mtbyumyum]

I completely agree... Specialized has 6 sizes and I really wish every bike manufacture would follow suite....

[@mtbeliever5833]

Switchblade or Ripley? What is more fun?

[@mtbyumyum]

They’re just such different bikes. It would really depend on the speed that you’re riding and the terrain. For me, it’s hard to beat the Ripley as far as “fun” goes! There are trails and speeds that the bike can get overwhelmed, where the switchblade would be more stable and handle the higher speeds better but it’s tough to beat the Ripley. Especially when they’re on sale! Call Chris at Salt Cycles. 801-943-8502.👊🤘

[@bitumen83]

Still waiting for Fuel Ex gen 6 test

[@phantasma2323]

😂

[@DontWorryImAPilot]

Man, this bike sounds great! If anyone is upgrading to this 2024 Switchblade and has a previous generation small Switchblade or 429, reply here. I'd love to take it off your hands for a decent price and help fund your new bike!

[@billderas3420]

Good luck with the knee surgery. May be a good time to test a few more e-bikes afterwards...LOL

[@mtbyumyum]

Hey, thanks! Yeah, it should be a pretty quick recovery. Thanks!

[@brianrichard1768]

Why you wanna make me badly want a 10K bike? My wife hates you. lol

[@mtbyumyum]

😆🤘

[@xhead86]

This bike looks perfect for me except for that darn super boost spacing

[@Trailridersusa]

Problem Solvers makes a simple adapter that allows you to run your boost wheels on super boost frames.

[@ianbales]

157 is a superior standard that existed before 148. i use the problem solvers adapter on my switchblade with a 148 rear hub with no problems. maybe pivot should supply an adapter in the box!

[@mtbyumyum]

That's actually a great idea...

[@wgnwheels333]

I hear ebikes are good for recovery after knee surgery 😂

[@eatnpooter1634]

beautiful bike , just hate the price . Definitely a luxury price for a luxury bike lol ..

[@MasterChronometer]

Always worries me that you can see the seals of the bearings on the rocker link. The bearings wouldn’t last 5 mins in Europe or Canada.

[@mikem4215]

Pivot bikes r everywhere in Europe and Canada. The enduro max bearings r awesome.

[@marksandoval5361]

I think that a bike with a 160 fork, 140-150 rear travel, 65* HTA and 76-77* STA makes for the perfect all around Trailbike. Not too slack, not too long, still good for green and blue trails but long enough and ample travel for black trails. In the past, I would have recommended a bike with shorter travel but these new longer travel bikes pedal and climb so well that more travel is no longer a detriment. And, you can change the character of the bike so easily by just changing the tires. Install a set of light Downcountry tires and you're ready to roll fast and go far. Install a set of beefy Enduro tires and you're ready for the steep and rough. There are so many good brands to choose from: Stumpy Evo, Ripmo, SB140 LR, Switchblade, and many more. If you can only own one bike this is the type of bike I would choose, not a shorter travel bike.

[@devlish668]

There can be a significant difference in weight between the various travel bikes. I enjoy longer pedaling rides and a couple of pounds can make a big difference.

[@marksandoval5361]

@@devlish668 The problem is that many of the current short travel trail bikes are not light unless you buy the $10k+ build. In the $5k build many often don't weight much less than longer travel bikes. 120/120 travel Trek top Fuel not light. 125/140 travel Canyon Spectral not light. You've got to dip down into the XC bikes to get something light but then you get XC geometry.

[@johnshredsalot1295]

You just described the sb130 haha. The perfect all around bike.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, you're not wrong... there are a lot of people that could make 1 bike work with 2 wheelsets and pretty much get the most out of their rides. As for which 1 bike... really comes down to speed. The bikes you listed can all pretty much handle any speed most people are willing to ride. For those who are a bit more reserved, they could probably get away with a Ripley, Stumpy, SB120 or T429

[@orrphism]

Funny how the average height of men is 5'10"-5'11" and this has historically been between sizes and one of the hardest decisions when buying a bike.... Sounds like bike companies are finally listening to captain obvious after all these years which is great as a 5'11" guy myself lol. Medium vs large depends on brand for me which is frustrating for us average (ie, the majority) of folk.

[@mtbyumyum]

💯👊