2024 Reality Check: The Truth About Using 2015 PC Hardware Today

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2024 Reality Check: The Truth About Using 2015 PC Hardware Today
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[@DXcellence718Returns]

I have 5 more years until my 5950x is going to be next on tech deals chopping block :(

[@C0d0ps]

Having a six year old pc is ideal for me. The 5950x will last a long time. Soon you’ll have 24-32 cores.

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

ill keep my 10940X X299 256gig of RAM beast for a long time too but not 5 years, that be too much for me :P

[@eugenijusdolgovas9278]

In 2015 I built FX8370 with R9 380 4GB windforce and 16GB of DDR3 1333. In 2019 I moved on and bought R5 3600 with 32GB 3000 (was a torture to use that RAM) and soon enough moved on to 1070 Ti Asus ROG and just before the crypto boom I smelled it and "downgraded" to RX 580 Nitro+ SE which ended up being sold for 350 euros to upgraded to Asus ROG 3060, sold and bought 6700 XT. Since then my machine was replaced entirely (not all at once, but as the budget let me) to 5900X with 280 Liquid cooler with 64GB 3200 Spectrix and 6800 XT on an MPG X570 and Dark Base Pro 901. Hey guys that still have a PC built in 2015. It really makes a difference and I felt the incremental upgrades and You can't fool me with Your pretty benchmarks and excuses.

[@genocidelves]

I still rock a i7 7700k 1080 I told myself I would upgrade when an online multiplayer game finally caught my attention for more than a month. It's been over 4 years now...

[@mikeramos91]

I assume you play battle royale games or dota type

[@genocidelves]

@@mikeramos91 The original Dota in HS like 14 years ago lol. I mostly only play MMOs but I haven't had any catch my attention in like 4 years.

[@alexsiniov]

4790k was fine for me 5 years ago, would be fine even today with 32GB ram, but after you touch 8+ cores, 4790k cannot be fine anymore :)))

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

too true ^.^

[@earthling1984]

It makes a huge difference to upgrade many years for sure. I used a 2014 Gigabyte P34G V2 laptop for 7 years. i7-4710hq, gtx860m 4gb, 16gb ram, 512mb ssd, 14" laptop. It was and still is an amazing computer! I built a desktop in November 2021 with 5800x, 32gb ram, 3060ti (started with a 1650), & gen4 nvme. Yes, it's a big difference, especially if you want to play the newest games. But my old laptop still plays Fornite fine, and renders 4k video just fine, and is basically the same speed in browsing and stuff like that. Just depends what you are doing. For me, I like to play some games, but I don't always care if they are the newest. I can play them when they are 2 years old. I also have stayed on a 27" 1080x60 monitor. So that makes it a bit easier on my hardware for gaming. And this is coming from someone who had to always have the best of the best in the past. Dual 8800gts (yeah they had 8800gtx, but I just got the 8800gts's in SLI), best everything. And I played competitive tournaments with buy ins and cash prizes, and often won. But over the years, I don't play 10 hours a day like I used to. So why waste money when I can keep my pc for years and enjoy it all the same.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

What you get used to using or finding acceptable changes. My favorite quote of putting my mother in front of our old 2012 machine, "Oh, no. Not the dinosaur!" She could tell the difference between that and our 2016 and 2020 etc machines, enough to not want to use the older one. Going too far back is painful. Also the resolution plays an important factor. We went from 720P-1440P/4K over the years.

[@AlejandroJorqueraZ]

My wife has an Asus laptop with a 5th gen i5 and a gtx 940m with 8gb of DDR3 ram. She was struggling even using the browser and 2 days ago i recommended her an Acer Nitro 5 with an i5 12450H and a 3050 with 16gb of DDR4 ram. She went "boom" when notice the difference and now she is really happy with her new machine.

[@trytesting4114]

reinstall windows and if not already upgrade to ssd it will feel like a new machine without spending 700-900 bucks thats what i did with my 2nd gen i5 laptop

[@ScoutReaper-zn1rz]

I got gifted a 2009 HP G60 laptop from a friend. Aside from it taking a good 2 minutes to fully load KZbin, it can play 720P YT videos. It handles DVD and Blu-Ray content with ease over wifi with 130 Mbps down (The LAN is slower and only gets 80 Mbps). It still has a great picture for being sub 1080P and if I could replace the CMOS and find a working battery replacement, I could use it as a portable laptop as intended. Still looks brand new with it's glossy finish.

[@ElladanKenet]

That was a comforting talk. My 3700X is nearly 5 years old, though I've only used it for 3 and a half. It's still pretty good, in the top 10% of CPUs ever released, but I've been noticing hiccups it's been having every now and then. Nothing major but I know it's not young and spry anymore.

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

On the other hand when you can upgrade to a 5700x for about 150-160 and sell your current cpu for probably 100, good upgrade imo.

[@DigitalBliss69]

Yep or get the 5700x3d used or new

[@dianaalyssa8726]

My friend is still happy with his 5800X we built in 2020. He does everything 1080P with that machine, 0 complaints. I think a drop in upgrade or the next platform are options, 5700X(/X3D) are reasonable drop-in upgrade options. (I wish I had built a 3700X they were great value machines.) The older machines get stutters in 1080P-1440P gameplay and 4K video. I would also fresh install Windows in between upgrades, buys a little more time that way. Make each upgrade count.

[@DigitalBliss69]

@@dianaalyssa8726 I had a 5700x on a x470 gaming plus , the machine overall worked great big upgrade in overall system responsiveness over the 3700x and avg and 1% low fps with the 6800xt. Recently upgraded to the 7800x3d and it’s further improved , it really feels like it has a much better grip on the 6800xt then even the 5700x did, very surprising. Ultimately I picked up a used 4080 and am selling the 6800xt now, loving the experience 😃

[@ironfist7789]

I'm using a 3700x for my zfs raid, webserver, and windows vms with 96gb ram, works great as an ubuntu server (great for other stuff too really).

[@autumnjeserich2689]

my 8700k and 1080 ti run the only game I play which is on unreal engine 4 at about 100 FPS at 1440p. I watch your videos because I do a lot of software development and use virtual machines and I want to build a nicer workstation, which was never the intended use of my machine when I built it. I'm sure even an AM4 system would be a noticeable upgrade.

[@Gamevet]

I had a 4790K @4.7 Ghz, paired with 32GB of DDR3-2133Mhz RAM. I was running an EVGA 1080 Classified on a 1440p/144Hz G-Sync monitor. I'd thought that it was still a solid system, until I got a great deal on an i9-9900K, with an Asus Hero Stix board and 32GB of DDR4-3600 RAM. The 1080's performance in games felt so much better. There was no longer any frame hitches and improvements improvements in performance felt like I had bought a higher tier of GPU.

[@Legendary_Proffesor23]

Don't listen to them bro, see what happened to Adam and Eve when they eat the fruit of wisdom lol

[@JGComments]

I was on an old i7 and 1070 in a laptop that couldn’t cool the for SO long…. but finally upgraded this year!

[@curtis.albrecht.79]

I have a CNE, an MCSE, a CCNA, a BS Degree in IT, an AA Degree in Computer Science, an AA Degree in Electronics, and 23+ years working in the IT industry (mostly Help Desk). My Daily Driver is an i7-7700K with a 1080Ti. Yes. I've played with all the shiny new toys on the market today. Ehhh... I like "shiny". I'm just not willing to part with the money that it takes to buy them. I get the most enjoyment from "maxing out" old systems. Just last week, I built two 4th Gen systems (an i5-4460 and i7-4790K). Both have M.2 NVME's. The i5-4460 has 16GB of DDR3 1866. And, the i7-4790K has 32GB of DDR3 2400Mhz on a Premium Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK. I'm going to flip the i7-4460, and buy something like a 1660Ti, drop that into the i7-4790K, and then flip that for something like a 4070 Ti Super. My i7-7700K currently has a Gen 4, 1TB, NVME. So, I'm going to take that out, along with the 4070Ti Super, and drop those into a 15th Gen CPU/MB combo, that I will pay for with the sale of the sale of the i7-7700K system. Do I need to do any of this? No. Not really. I build computers for fun, not for money (anymore... I'm retired). Also, USE CASE is important. I don't play AAA games. I play Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries, MAXIMUM detail, at 1440p, on a 65" 4K TV. And, I play Diablo III at ULTRA detail. I "NEED" the 65" TV, because I stared at tiny computer monitors for 23+ years. I'm 1/2 blind and need the BIG screen. My i7-7700K is on a Gigabyte GA-H270N-WIFI MB which supports PCIe Gen 3 x4 speeds of up to 4GB/s. So, "my" games already load snappy enough for my needs. When I drop my Gen 4 NVME into a snappy new 15th Gen MB, will the 8GB/s be noticable? Ehhh... Use case matters... Shiny toys are nice. But, I'm not impressed.

[@JL-vt5uo]

Hell I notice a difference going from my 8700k to my 10850k. Hopefully upgrading the 8700k pc to a black Friday combo deal this year.

[@dannyvanlaarhoven]

Nowadays my wife games more than me and I sold her my RTX4090 I bought a couple of months ago. She had a 12700K with a 3070ti before so the 4090 is in great hands. I mostly do WoW atm on my old system (fully custom system was out for a couple of years) with an 10900K and MSI Godlike Motherboard (both hard-tubed water cooled). With a 1080ti MSI lightning with EK waterblock stuf on it. Ofc it isn't driving newer games like it used to do back in 2017-2021 but still for WoW it is more than fine enough. Still a GPU from 2017 that can still rock pretty hard nowadays is impressive. The difference with the 4090 is big in games that really need it indeed ;)

[@clandestine5959]

If you keep selling to your wife what should be free, you will soon find yourself with divorce papers. That's what I would do ~ discusting greedy fool.

[@hexacarbide268]

Very true. Once you pop in your first modern day CPU core and feel the difference immediately and in every activity... its something to behold. Let those building computer hooks sink in deep... :)

[@JamesGREEK26]

Built my 1st computer in 2013 with an FX-8350. Threw that away in 2016. Can't wait to see people saying "FX-8350 iS aLL yOu neEd"!!!1!one!

[@RustomH]

You’ll be waiting a long time buddy lol.

[@kramnull8962]

TechD When you go into the store and look around all is well and fine, but finding a 14W is a chore. So Sketchers high top work shoes is about all I can wear, because they are the only shoes in my size most times. Oh yeah most of their 13W fit like 11.5 not like a 13W. But yeah I look for one thing in a shoe, the #14 on the side. That's how I roll........

[@SlowHardware]

Theres one cpu from back then thats fine if youre overclocked. The 8 core i7 5960x. Tuned it beats a 3700x..

[@solemnsilence3650]

My i7 4790k likes to cry on new games lmao 😂 it bottlenecks my Gtx 1080 in some games lol I need a whole new computer tbh I’m saving up ❤

[@eugenijusdolgovas9278]

If You were saving up a $100 since 2017, You can afford a 4090 machine now.

[@RustomH]

Keep it, buy a 4060 & use it as a media PC in the living room 🤷

[@nttinvis]

Just got 7800x3d and 4070super🎉🎉 from 3060 ti and 5600g... huge difference

[@Given119]

I7-4770k 1080FTW2.... Runs well enough. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I also built an i5-10600k with a 3080FTW3... Works much better, but still fine using the older one.

[@Truth_Exists]

Hey Tech. I Bought my 12700 and 6900xt by your recommendation back in 2022 GPU mining time. And I have to say the upgrade from my 4770 and 5700XT was massive...What I regret thought is not going for 5900x and faster ram(would have been the same price because LGA 1700 was expensive at the time) I feel that Alderlake has some issues... I can't quite point to it. Buy my office PC that had a Ryzen in it and even though it's a 6 core feels more snappy. 13th gen probably resolved the issues thought.

[@hrvojemilicevic3309]

You can play everything on i5 4460 + gtx 1060/1070. I7 4790k + gtx 1080ti is a powerfull combo

[@dustychuck6709]

I think If a 4790K/1080ti works and has been working for him in 2023 than that's great, less e-waste and sound like he has got awesome value out of that system. Maybe he has low expectations, or this works for the games he plays and doesn't care for the newer tech. But one day they are going to want to play a shiny new game or the support for this hardware will end and will have to buy a new PC. I say well done, this hasn't worked for me, but I do agree with tech on, product cycles are way to short and this needs to end, hardware should be supported up to 10 years.

[@svendragonion6792]

I use an i7 6700k, 32GB Ram, GF1060 Graka, 4 HD-Displays for Fusion360, Photoshop (CC), Lightroom (CC), etc and it is fine. I have an i5 11600k, 32GB Ram, 3060 12GB 2 Displays for Gaming and wait for my new i9 14900k, 64GB Ram, 4080 Super 1x 4k Display + 3x HD Displays. But only for "work" the 6700k is ok

[@justanobody4983]

With a mid budget build, you can run it for 5-6 years before youll need an upgrade. Sure it will work, sure it will run games but on a lesser degree. The time you upgrade is when you notice your running 60 fps on mid low settings. Everything just deteriorates. But with current ai tech like frame gen and dlss, i do think you can extend for another 2 years. Thats unless your uber competitive.

[@kramnull8962]

Anything above High in game settings is generally useless overkill, so that's the only thing that saves the 1080Ti in 1080p. On the other hand a 1080 non Ti is huge way behind the 1080Ti the further in its life it gets.

[@DeltaYT99]

got an i7 8700, rx 6600 8gb 16 gb ddr4 2666mhz But ordered a i5 14600k, rx 6800 16gb, 32gb ddr5 6400mhz

[@Snafu2346]

my daily driver is a 6700k until I built a 7800x3d a few months ago. Other than my 7800x3d memory controller failing and having to replace the cpu, to this day i still don't know why. My 6700k for regular use was fine. Only on the most modern titles on my 3080 did I notice anything. But when I used it for work, which is GPU intensive, it still doesn't make much difference. frame times are smoother on top titles, but honestly, I was playing small indy title games, or games that didn't require much gpu. TMNT, ORI, heck, that attorney game. I would build computers for my friends, 8700k, 9900k, 12700k and co workers, 5600x3d, 7800x3d twice, I decided to do mine as well. the ONLY times I notice a difference is gaming, davnici resolve, handbrake, But hey, those are the most intensive things I did on it. Deep learning, tensor flow, stable diffusion, I notice no difference.

[@Strongholdex]

I have a gtx 970 and i5 4590. I play old games like Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen. This year I finish my master degree and will upgrade to a completly new build.

[@realnamesnotgiven6193]

I have tried a 1600, 1700, 3600, and 5900x on am4. 5900x is snappy. You will be waiting for the others

[@adreasperpirakis208]

Heartbroken pc user looking for sugardaddy tender and passive to upgrade my pc. Jaguars and chitacs and silent ducks can be served too.

[@wolfshanze5980]

Hmmm... so I'm playing "just fine" on an i7 10700F with a 3070Ti and 32GB DDR4... btw, what's a "micro-stutter"?

[@realnamesnotgiven6193]

Let's say You are getting an average 60 fps, that's 16 milliseconds between frames. Let's say you get a frame time spike above 16. You can feel a difference but the advantage would be the same.

[@UnboxerofWorlds]

I still use a laptop from 2011.

[@Squidgy55]

Upgrade very five years. That's how I do it.

[@nareshangelia-sookrajjr.1365]

Or you could do what I do, buy something like a 7900xt, run it at 1080p and it’ll last at minimum 5 years probably more

[@t-birdmr.t7980]

3900x and RTX3090 doing great!

[@sparmar3444]

I've got the 4790 (non-k) paired with an evga 2070 super. Was planning a long overdue upgrade but I'm going to wait until the new cpu from amd/intel are released.

[@randysalsman6992]

I went from a i7 6700k, gtx 980ti and 16GB rsm to a R9 5950x, rtx 3080 and 32GB ram and to tell you the truth it didn't feel any different to me.

[@Snafu2346]

I had a 6700k and for daily driving, its perfectly fine. Was paired with cards like a 1070, to a 3080, and even then I didn't have much issue. For the work i did, it was gpu intensive, I didn't have any issues, and is running fine. Games ran fine, except for the most modern of titles. I have a 7800x3d now, yeah its running even better now,

[@JGComments]

I bet you would notice if you went back though…

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

then you really dont use pcs at all bro, hope this is a joke ^^

[@imo098765]

Speaking of experiences and shoes I would wear flip flops for years and my feet were fine. Family was wearing crocs saying its so much better and I was like that thing looks like rubbish, I will never wear them Recently I got pair on sale, the original ugly things Now I wear crocs every day, going to a BBQ they in the boot, going to the beach they coming with. Busy fixing stuff around the house, they on. (still find them ugly but function over form)

[@lonewolf5316]

can't wait to see the rtx 5090

[@bullyakker]

i5-4690k and a 980ti played COD MW2 just fine... BUT... it was TRASH. 12700k, 6800xt the difference was HOLY COWABUNGA!!! (Buddy went to a 13700k, 3080/12Gb and Holy moly (from a 4790k/1080ti)

[@bullyakker]

(even the 980ti gained mucho FPS with the cpu change...then the 3060ti was HUGE difference.. Gave it to the kid and got a 6800xt..WHOA!) Had to try all gpu's with the 4690k)

[@lonewolf5316]

just built a system with a i9-14900k 64 gb of ddr 5 ram with a 4090 and a sammy 990 pro. let me just say it screams 😁. my pc serves me and it jumps when i tell it to!!! that poster has no idea what there missing!!!! and i play it on a sony 85 inch oled 😊. in todays world i wouldn't even entertain the idea of running that hardware unless it's for web surfing e-mail ect and i truly could not afford a new one!! in my office i have an i7 11-700k with 32 gigs of ram and a 980 pro with a 3070 for work tasks and it's snappy can it run games yes but not like the other pc can since it's only being used on a 1440p monitor. while even that ones snappy it's not as snappy as my i9 pc!!! since the i9 is newer generation hardware!!!

[@mikhail21393]

If the guy in the comments says that 4790k and 1080ti plays all the latest AAA especially in 1080p with medium to high settings between 60 to 120 fps I imagine my i5 6500 with 1060 6g what's like used to be today LOLz

[@trytesting4114]

1440p on a 30 something inch monitor or 20 something monitor is a WASTE you re not gonna see any differences from 2 ft away....... yes i m still rocking a i5 4690 with a 1060 6gb. just recently upgrade to i7 8700 with yes very stubpid rx 7600. but will you rather pay a older gen card used for 190or a brand new current gen for 20bucks more.....

[@ATVProven]

I give reality one star, would not recommend.

[@JGComments]

On the bright side, reality has excellent graphics and latency, fps is off the charts.

[@jimmygoforth1521]

dudes lying about those frame rates