Budget PCs Decoded: Are They Really Worth Your Money

[@j.e9971]

Sent this to my cousin and she is so grateful for the vid! She is a college student who wants to do content creation, but also wants to facilitate her needs for her engineering degree. This video helped her with the perspective she was looking for (outside my personal advice).

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@kramnull8962]

I remember like it was yesterday, your 2019 Black Friday live show was telling about the 2600x for $99 and 2700x for $125.

[@nicksterba]

The 2700x was the CPU in my old gaming/editing rig. Thing felt so premium to me at the time, it was my first custom build. Paired with a GTX 1080 and 32GB ddr4. Good times 😄

[@evers6214]

Great video! I love looking at true value over time. But no, i don’t often buy the best because sometimes paying DOUBLE for an extra %20 better performance doesn’t sit well with me

[@C0d0ps]

Personally for me, I like buying cpus I can keep for 4-6 years. I don’t game as often as my teenage years. So 6 years is more like it

[@mryellow6918]

The convince of just buying a 4090 and then not touching ot for 6+ years is too much to pass up.

[@C0d0ps]

@@mryellow6918 If you have the money then buying the best is rarely a bad idea. These gpus will hold its value for many years.

[@karenkamoske9035]

I took your advice 2 yrs ago and purchased the i5-13600k and it still is going strong. And now I am taking the advice you gave me when I asked 4070ti Super or 4080 Super for my 3070ti upgrade 1440p experience You said "4080 Super and be done with it." Thank you Tech Deals I believe you have saved me money through the years with your sound advice.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thank you so much for the feedback and kind words! :)

[@rbl047]

I live in Brazil. Sadly electronics costs to us 8 to 10 more. Sometime is cheaper to take a plane to US, buy something expensive and come back. Could cost us almost 2x cheaper!

[@pdarrell]

I agree with Tech and Intel CPU will last longer. I built an i5 4690k in 2011 and only just rebuilt with an i9 12900k this year (2024). It was being used as a storage server so speed was not that important. I got the Micro Center 12900k combo deal for $400 with z790 motherboard, 32gb ram, and the Cpu. I had to add an SSD and cooler. And then I had an updated 12th Gen cpu computer, for around $600. I am very happy with the upgrade and it was worth it and keeping the 4690k was worth it. With what I spent on the cpu in 2011 and it last until 2024, it was about $27 per year to own.

[@elfo7]

The 4690K released in 2014?

[@Hypershell]

First build was 2020, and I would have been happy with it had the motherboard not broken down last month (Asus X-570P). If I had it to do over again, I'd have gotten a board with BIOS Flashback (got it now) and a bigger PSU. Before the RTX 3000 series was announced, 650 watts was "all you need" for an upgrade path (I got 700). That changed quick. Bear in mind I researched all the parts for about 2 weeks and was coming off a 2nd gen i5 prebuilt that had trouble playing KZbin. Suffice to say my world opened up since then.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thanks so much for sharing! Wow, going from an i5 Sandy Bridge to X570 is a huge upgrade! :)

[@kyle782]

Its crazy how long tech will last. I have a system dated back to 2010 still running windows 10, albeit only as a file, print, & plex server but still. Tech lasts. My approach to my latest build was, buy the best i can afford or reasonably afford and are willing to put into my next 10 year machine. 7950x 4090 x670e etc.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

My old i3 2100 still on Linux can play old movies 1080P x264 not much action x265 is too much for it. But it can print and browse etc. My mother calls it the dinosaur but it's efficient and still lives. Granted like you I built 12900KF 7900XTX to last a while. 7950X will be a fine machine to last a long time.

[@rangersmith4652]

The first PC I built from the ground up was an FX-8350 / R9-290. I should have chosen a 4790K. I almost did. The issue was cash. Then cash became not an issue. Its replacement was a 6850K 980Ti. I still have all those components, and they all still work.

[@theonerm2]

People put too much stock in other people's opinions on when to upgrade their PC when in reality their PC is probably fine. If you watch PC tech videos too much you will want to upgrade all the time. Even for just a little 10% boost you will still want that 10% upgrade. And it's not even noticeable unless you watch the frame rate counter but those kind of videos make you crave that 10% extra if you're not getting it already. A 10% boost is like going from 60fps to 66fps. Even a 30% boost isn't all that huge. That's like 60 fps to 78 fps. That's not that big of a deal is it? You could use DLSS or FSR at quality mode and then go to high setting from ultra and you will most likely get more than a 30% boost with minimal impact to the graphics quality. Even though I know all these things if I watch these videos too much I just have to go and upgrade my PC. Why? To get that awesome 10% better performing CPU, RAM, graphics card, or whatever it is that I think will finally make me happy with my PC.

[@ByteSizeTech]

50% improvement is the minimum I would suggest. 100% improvement is better. Upgrade when you get a wow experience. I'm not in favor of tons of tiny upgrades.

[@theonerm2]

@@ByteSizeTech I agree but I've upgraded every generation since 2014 and I'm addicted to getting new stuff now for my PC.

[@justanobody4983]

I did the future proofing before. Just dont so it, its not worth it. Buy the most balanced pc you can now and enjoy it for the next few years. Future proofing cpu is the most logical buy still not worth it.

[@JGComments]

Yeah, even with a power supply you honestly have no idea what your next GPU might require. You could just as easily waste a few hundred dollars.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

One nice thing is the 13600K won't have whatever issue people are having with the i7 & i9s, with the 14900KS it seems to be the 2 P cores are too aggressively clocked, need to be downclocked. Storage is going up again but it will come down at some point or buying cheaper sizes can be a savings. Other prices PSUs are rising slowly. Boards and ram seem okay but ram might be creeping up a little bit from where it was last year.

[@TheHangarHobbit]

I think I did about as well as could be done during the craziness on my budget baller. I was gifted a $400 Amazon card to build myself a budget rig by my oldest boy about 3 weeks before the pandemic and a month and a half before crypto exploded and that netted me an R3 1200, 16GB of RAM with a 500GB NVME, an A320 with new RX 580 fat and a decent PSU and case, during the pandemic about a year later I upgraded to a 3600 and 32GB of RAM, and then about a year and a half after that when crypto died I went to a B550 with 5700x and a 6650XT and 64GB of RAM. The best part is since the entire family is on AMD I could just pass down the parts so the oldest grandson has the A320 with R3 1200 and 16GB of RAM which with an RX 6600 he snabbed cheap plays his Fortnite and War Thunder just fine, the wife got the 3600 and RX 580 which is plenty of power for her World Of Warships, and I can easily see myself sticking with the 5700x system for another 3-5 years with nothing more than a GPU upgrade as none of the games I play come close to maxxing out my CPU.

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

Here my 3080 has a 384bit bus 😁

[@curtismariani6303]

I totally get what you are saying. I also think (I know you’ve said this before) it makes sense to buy the best you can as soon as you can after launch. I wouldn’t buy a 4090 now. If I was going to do it, it would have been as soon as I could after launch. As the depreciation is hard to justify so late in a life cycle. Also by jumping in as early as possible, the part it is replacing has a higher resale value covering more of the cost. Now nivida GPU’s don’t tend to reduce much in price before the next launch so there is especially no reason to wait.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Indeed... this was recorded in December. The 4090 today is a horrible value, too far into the cycle, 100% agree.

[@dirtymisfit5852]

Just got a i5 12600kf, 16gb of ram, and a mobo for $250 at micro center on a bundle deal, for a 1080p build. Couldn’t beat that price for brand new parts.

[@westfield90]

Your knowledge is very impressive

[@ElladanKenet]

Great video. I can for one speak to the 'buying more and growing into it' argument. My last two computers were barely adequate. First was a bottom tier AMD 4c4t cpu from 2013 for $699, that came with a bottom tier gpu. Sure it was better than my laptop; it could actually play games! At 720p! But the moment I tried something remotely taxing - Civilization V- , my PC begged for more juice. The cpu just couldn't take it. Lost the whole thing to a freak lightning strike 2 and a half years later and got my money back, then I went big... but not big enough. PC #2 was a mammoth monster way too big for the needs. Huge case, a 240mm cooler, extra room for cables and harddrives, mesh panels, more fans. It was heavy! But what was in it, in 2017? A year old GTX 960 4gb model, and another 4c4t cpu, granted, it was an i5-7600K. Loads better than the AMD one, but.... ugh... it was a sidegrade! And I didn't even realize it! But Ryzen wasn't out yet and the i7 seemed a lot more expensive at the time, and I was on a bit of a budget. So what happened? By 2020, my 960 just couldn't chug any more. Even in WoW with medium settings, it struggled in a lot of places, and I had to start turning it down to low! And Shadow of Mordor? I wasn't brave enough to even try playing that game, or Cyberpunk. On a 960?! Ha! PC #3, my current one, was the first PC I had, and it took a lot more research. I had newly discovered Tech and Linus and the other channels. I went for another jump in specs, but I mainly consciously got more PC than I thought I'd need, specwise. I went for a 3700X on an x570 board, which wasn't exactly cheap. I also saved up and bought a 3060ti near launch in 2021 and ultimately got it for roughly MSRP, after all the crypto nonsense. But the difference between it and my old computers is like night and day. Mind you, I'm not playing every single game under the sun, more by choice than constraint. But even newer games like Cyberpunk, Shadow of War, Civ 6, Helldivers 2, Diablo 4, Jedi FO and Survivor, all handled well. Some of them I've had to tweak settings, but 3.5 years later and I'm still in a very playable condition, unlike my other rigs. And I'm sure the 8c16t is helping a lot, when I could've just gone really cheap and gotten the 2600x or something. Everyone was screaming about the 8 cores being useless and just get the 3600x, but in hindsight, I'd have made the same decision again. And even though I'm theoretically scheduled to upgrade or replace by this September, I'm not entirely sure I need to, because all things considered, I still have a pretty good computer that meets all my current needs.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

If you stay with the same resolution, you might not need to. My first WoW & gpu from a prebuilt was a 1060 3gb, fine for open world stuff, but bad otherwise. My friend made it a really long time with his RX580, some cards just hold up well for certain games, 1080P. Diablo 4 1440P I can't really max out the gpu unless I'm doing multitasking the 7900X (with 12900KF) but by that point I'm not playing well anyway if hordes descend upon me. Had a lot of crappy office computers growing up, I remember the i3 2100 being bad in WoW WoD, friend said it would be fine meeting minimum requirements but he used the preflying old requirements, so it wasn't really that good, had to render scale, but it didn't cost anything. It was a bit like my first car an old Buick Regal that just worked with quirks. #2: December 2016: Skylake prebuilt i5-6402p (not a great i5 but had some OC software going like the i3 2100 to help) and 1060 3gb, Played a lot of Legion & The Nighthold deserved a GPU/replacement rig. #3: 9600K (about 200 when I bought, kinda wish I had went with 3700X or 9900K but oh well) 1060 was swapped for a 3060 12gb (was in stock for better/worse), end of BFA/Shadowlands Prepatch. #4: 12900KF 7900XTX main rig, have built some more for the fam but this has been mostly good except for Avatar (so much raytracing & crashes in the month of launch I quit playing it). Biggest change was going up resolutions 720P->1080P->1440P in this time (4K video). Changing resolution and refresh rate spoil what you might find as acceptable over time. My friend is still very happy 1080P with his 5800X and a midrange GPU we picked to retire his RX580. FF14 has their Dawntrail benchmark out, am using to get an idea how my gear is still performing. Something like WoW Remix that won't require an upgrade, just Pandaria content. Upgrading ram certainly was useful, Don't regret those, especially handy if a game gets a ram leak (BFA Nzoth patch had an annoying one). FSR and graphic options are pretty good now but resolution change was the biggest personal driver to force me into upgrading again.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thanks so much for the detailed feedback and for sharing... Nice to hear you're getting great value out of your current PC, you bought a bit more and it's lasting nicely! You could put a 5700X3D in there if you find a deal on one ($200), but meh... without a GPU upgrade it wouldn't be dramatic.

[@elvertmack5039]

4080 super with frame generation is a monster for the price along with the 7900xtx

[@RiderOfKarma]

I was an early adopter of ryzen and was just able to upgrade my 1700x to a 5700x on the same board from 2017. Gotta appreciate AMD keeping that upgrade promise.

[@PesareShojae]

It all comes down to the situation of people and with all due respect a budget pc is not useless after 3 or 4 years. Iam speaking from experience because i kept my i5 third gen lapto for 10 years and then sold it to my friend and that device does satisfy all of his computing needs and even after 10 more years it can still do simple computer tasks and even play old games with the gt 730 4gb and 16gb of ram that it has.

[@nostrum6410]

its the bandwidth that matters, sure its tied to the bus, but its not really the same thing. Canadian prices are basically the same after exchange

[@mikhail21393]

My existing build had 2700x and 2070 super and 16gb 3200mhz cl16 (ddr4) 5 years ago and I replaced with 5700x and 4070 and 32gb 3600mhz cl16. I will stay on the same platform until some games crapping out for system requirements and when maybe am6 or 15/16 gen intel is maybe good for my needs I may jump over. If I am satisfied ofc!

[@thecartooncynic]

"Am I happy with what I built in the past 5 years?" Well, if what I built would stop BSod-ing every day, that would be great. RTX 4080 Super 13900k 128gb 5600mtf RAM DDR5 (4 stick pack, they are matching sticks. XMP enabled) Kingston. Sabrent Rocket4 1TB nvme ssd Asus Creator ProArt z790 MoBo 1000w PSU -------- Nothing but problems since building it in 2022, almost every component has been replaced except the CPU. This damn thing will BsoD when I'm doing absolutely NOTHING. I have half a mind to rip out two of my RAM sticks just to see if it's stable. What does this computer do? ALL THE THINGS! Music Production, Gaming, 3D work with Blender, Rendering in Blender, Live Streaming, Video recording, Light weight video editing. Anywho, love the vids.

[@idkwhattohaveasausername5828]

Are you overheating your cpu? That might be what’s causing it but I’m no expert

[@dianaalyssa8726]

You're going to hate the options here. Would test one ram stick/one pair or swap out the pair QVL ram. If you swapped the ram maybe it really is the CPU. 2 stick XMP are easier to balance timings on. You BIOS update for ram support also I imagine. I've had to downclock ram to tune sometimes usually starting at jedec speed and seeing where it's stable, am on Z690 12th though Z790 is supposed to have better ram speed support. Can also try Windows and Linux to troubleshoot the ram, if that's what it is, most of my BSODs were solved in changing out ram kits on each of the 3 machines, all have QVL it's quite boring but stable. Maybe the XMP itself isn't stable but it will work fine at a lower speed 4800-5600 or 5800, sometimes 6000 or higher just crashed idk, it's trial and error, there are some ram testing programs also. But I usually just test by using. I only have 2 stick pairs in each. Usually it would BSOD when the ram speed/timings were too high just doing nothing like you said. GL.

[@JGComments]

Every day? Are you overclocking?

[@ByteSizeTech]

My first thought is turn the RAM down to 5200 with XMP otherwise enabled... RAM is so weird...

[@JGComments]

@@ByteSizeTechThat’s what most CPUs are rated for, even if the motherboard can handle more.

[@gamerzombie4822]

I recently had this happen. Got a little drunk and decided to upgrade the backup computer and get a better cpu for the 1080ti. I wanted to keep it around $300. Got a 12400f, 32gb 3200mhz ram, and a cheap as rock mobo. If I had spent another $20, I could've had the 12600.😵‍💫

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

I will say I started with computers at least PCs around 1997. The conventional wisdom for years after seemed to be buy the best you could so it lasted longer. Tech has a point but if you are someone who likes to upgrade frequently then that can get expensive. It seems now that you need to pick the platform you can upgrade over time. For example if you bought into am4 back in 2017, you could theoretically be using zen 3 on the same board and be almost comparable with Intel 12th gen. That said buying am4 note units you are broke, I can’t recommend am4. Maybe you get 2-3 years from the am4 platform? At this point on a budget, buy Intel. Even though LGA 1700 is technically dead, at least if you get an Intel 12th gen cpu you can still upgrade to 14th gen and have at least a way to extend its life some more. I will say that tech has a point about reselling your parts. I’ve done that for a long time as I upgraded. It makes it a lot easier to afford stuff.

[@9mmfederalrimmed235]

For gaming AFMF solves lots of problems and gives the GPU about of double of an lifespan. About double fps. Just stick to Enlisted, HLL or Squad 44 and your RTX 3060 or RX 6600 is good for the next 12 years. For productivity I do not know.

[@eplugplay8409]

I returned my 4070 ti super and will wait for a 5080. Using steam deck and gaming on a switch until end of the year.

[@alexavric3426]

About Ryzen 2700x and I9 9900k, you are very wrong. Just ask your self simple question, would you buy 2700x for 50$ or 9900k for 250$? While 2700x is probably worth its 50$ as definitly you cant buy anything new today that would be even close to that performance, while 9900k is good deal slower than any current i5 or R5 chip , be it intel or AMD. Even 2 gen old I5 12400 is faster than 9900k, and even when it was out 2 years ago it was 150$ ... So 9900k is terrible value , was than, and if its 250 on ebay now , its even worse. BTW im not AMD fanboy, i had 2700x and others ryzens while im on Intel now, got good deal. But unless someone needs at that moment all the best, and money wasnt issue, sure 9900k was king, but bad value for money. Same was case with Ryzen 3900x, beaten by next gen ryzens 7 hands down in most situations while costing half as much..

[@dianaalyssa8726]

I saw a Newegg deal yesterday 12400F was around 130. Only reason someone would buy a 9900K would be not wanting to change the motherboard. My B760M was 99 and tax back when I bought. Am sure someone could build some kind of 12400(F) rig with a new board for less than a used 9900K chip.

[@alexavric3426]

@@dianaalyssa8726 exactly my point, while 2700x with used AM4 Mbo, could be bought for about 100$ , and that is great value. Just look at people who just in 2021 bought I9 chip, thats now slower than current I5 or Ryzen 5, even 7500F it faster than any 10gen intel or Ryzen 3000. If money is not at all issue, than sure go for it, but nobody should spend top dolar thinking they will have great machine for 4-5y, as whats top now, in 2-3 years will be beaten by midrange , and that is best bang for buck while costing half as much. btw i do have great respect for Tech Deals, one of my favorite tech channels.

[@ByteSizeTech]

I wouldn't buy either one of them, those aren't the choices... It was $330 for the 2700X or $530 for the 9900K in 2018. Given those choices, the 9900K was the better buy. Today, both are terrible purchases.

[@PalatechGaming]

​@@ByteSizeTechYou're right, 9900k was the better buy back then in terms of raw performance, but if you went the am4 route you could later upgrade the 2700x to a ryzen 3000 series or even a 5000 series. Most people with a ryzen 2700x have upgraded to a 5900x, a 5950x or a 5800x3d without changing the rest of their build and that is freaking awesome. As you've said yourself many times, am4 is a gift. Today no one should buy either of these cpus, but especially in the case of the 9900k, paying $250 for a used 9th intel cpu is totally nuts and I really can't see how anyone on their right mind would ever buy that cpu at that price in this day and age. However, I can imagine cases where a 2700x at 50 bucks might be of use, like for example a school kid that has been given a build with a b450 board, 16gigs of ram, a ryzen 1200 and a gtx 1080 for free. In that case a 2700x for 50 bucks is a night and day difference, not to mention that this build can be vastly upgraded in the near future to be relevant even for modern day gaming with used parts for a fraction of the cost.

[@kramnull8962]

Just like the 13th and 14th gen that are "crashing" all the sudden. You have people not only putting (K cpu) on B760 motherboards, you have 3 and 4 different variations of undervolting and or cooling the CPU; or slowing the speeds down. All of which are very different in approach. And all of which will lead to instability. Not to mention the fact that Thermal boost is locked out on the B760 with a K version CPU, which is one of the handier and easiest ways to bring temps down quick, by slowing the processor down.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Think it's the 2 boost cores needing to be slowed down to not crash. I have a B760M around and a couple Z690s though whatever the issue is exactly seems to be 13700K-14900K(S) think the main 2 P cores are overclocking too high, need to be tuned down in the BIOS. I was looking into upgrading, but 12900KF is seeming fine until this is sorted. Other 12th gen machines can likely wait until BIOS updates go out again at least.

[@kramnull8962]

@@dianaalyssa8726 Yeah the star cores were my problem. But the Lite Load (default9) seems to calm them down @ a 6 setting in bios. I thought my processor was warped because of the heat from the 2 "star cores", until Lite Load evened them out. Also finding the bios setting for the cores; "core ratio offset, vs. core ratio" and changes the way the voltage behaves. With the offset setting it will do about anything on 3W of usage, vs 21W locked CPU usage simply running windows, in core ratio setting. There may be a little performance loss between the 2 but 6W average and cooler is better than 21W full time usage. Then set it to ultra performance in XTU and still run 1635 in R24 without any throttle after 2 runs. R24 has been way more taxing for my 13700K than R23, as far as max temp goes.

[@kramnull8962]

@@dianaalyssa8726 You are correct though. I slowed just those 2 to 4.8Ghz and all the others to 5.8Ghz and was getting nice scores. Back then though I hadn't saw the advantage of Lite Load on the MSI motherboard. And with the reduction in speed, as you can see why I was agreeing with everyone my crap was warped. Not saying it doesn't happen on the 13700K but there were many triggers from default Lite Load of 9 being default. I cannot imagine a lite load of 23. 6 is as much as I can get.

[@IvorMorris]

My 9700k still chugging on. Live outside the US so I pretty pay x2 for all my parts.

[@mikem9536]

That's the CPU I regretted not buying when I bought an i5-9400f, but that CPU is now in my brothers hands.

[@SavageKilla]

i have a ryzen 7 5700x and a 4070super and it runs great i know i could get more out of it by upgrading cpu but im holding off for now

[@SIW808]

I have a similar setup and looking to going AM5

[@nosee8466]

Worth to upgrade now from 5800x to 5950x?

[@randysalsman6992]

God no. If you needed that many cores you should have got it when it released. Also I wouldn't recomend going to the am5 platform and a 7950x. What I'd do is start saving up your pennies now and when the 9950x comes out that is when you jump onto am5 and r9 9950x. Also having so much cpu I'd also go with at least 64GB ram, don't need 128GB if you don't do anything to heavy because that much DDR5 is still super expensive but yet half the RAM is like quarter the price. Then for the GPU, if you are a gamer only 1 GPU to get (so long as it has released by then) with that much CPU and RAM, that would be the RTX 5090. Only be a shame to pair a lesser GPU with that top-teir CPU and RAM.

[@ByteSizeTech]

What Randy said. :) The time to make that choice is in the past now.

[@Popmycherryyo]

05:04 that actually IS a great video idea, but, may I chime in, make it twice a year. So to see if you would've "saved" money or gotten a better computer for your buck for a better price by waiting to around christmas, after xmas, black friday shit etc. Or, if it's better to buy early on in the year.

[@bluexeyedxpassion]

First. I'm using a 12900k/3060ti and play 1440p just fine.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Nice, 12900KF 7900XTX 1440P gaming/4K media.

[@bluexeyedxpassion]

@@dianaalyssa8726 same

[@jodiepalmer2404]

I was wondering about the 13th & 14th Gen Intel CPU's having problems after a couple of months use. I was other channels commenting on the fact that people are experiencing their PC BSOD or crashing (I think). I like to know what your thoughts about this.

[@ByteSizeTech]

We have 3 PCs with the i9-13900K in them, the test bench, Junior's PC, and our video editing PC. Rock solid stable, no issues. Sample size of 3 of course.

[@jodiepalmer2404]

@@ByteSizeTech Thanks.

[@adreasperpirakis208]

I agree with you boss but I am a poor boy with a 4770k and a 1070 for 1080p and is just fine for dx11 and play wot. I am seek a tender sugar mummy to help me upgrade. Anyway the only bottleneck is the ssd who needs to load the ultra ultra textures. The only change I made is that I change the physicsx from the cpu to gpu from the nvidia panel and I change to gpu memory prefer system feed back whit a cost of halve second to load tecture and fysicsx to main memory. I will upgrade to rtx 5000 series but in that case I will need a tender sugar daddy.

[@GrandPrix26]

Have some damn class.

[@adreasperpirakis208]

Please don't be toxic, life is good, our world will be better if it was not in fashion to be average, cheap, and vulgar.

[@dannymallants5464]

I am happy whit my build I9 13900K GIGABYTE 4090 RTX DDR5 32GIGABYTE 6200MH AND A Z790 AURUS MASTER

[@roland8775]

I'm really wanting to get the 5090 this year (whenever it releases), maybe even the TI version, but the problem is that I'm still pretty satisfied with the performance of my 3080 lol. Usually my components are on their deathbed when I upgrade, so it's a little harder justifying the upgrade this time around.

[@ByteSizeTech]

There is nothing wrong with skipping it! If your use case doesn't require it, don't buy it!

[@roqeyt3566]

"What would've been the better buy every year?" Stocks and crypto, although a 3090 was a good buy during the boom. Oh, for gaming?

[@MsScarlet50]

what if I don’t want an i9-14900k. I don’t want to water-cool the chip, I’d rather get an i7-14700k and air cool it. I also only plan to game on it as I have other computers for other stuff. I figure the cpu should last me about 5 years or so. I play a variety of games at 1080p for now, but it’s good to know I can upgrade to 1440p. Haven’t decided on gpu yet, either 4070 Ti S or 4080 S.

[@ByteSizeTech]

We have a Noctua NH-D15 on our test bench i9-13900K, runs cool and quiet without issue, even in intensive use. I do use liquid cooling on our video editing PC, mostly because I like how it looks and the insanely silent fans.

[@Technocrat.]

I have money and work, still can't afford to pay for over priced cpu and GPUs lol Well I can but won't. I just built my own China 12th 14th gen desktop. Ordered rtx3060 12gb $130 lol hope I get it. New China new.

[@Jaydenmillerjm]

Greetings guys, i have a question. i've seen many videos with damaged 4090's , do you think its actually a defect with the card itself and not the connector ?

[@ByteSizeTech]

I don't have a strong opinion on this, our sample size is too small. Our cards are fine, but that's a token number of cards.

[@JC.SpdRcr5]

Talking about getting 4-5 years out of a computer and the tech. I'm laughing because I clearly don't fit in here. I'm using an 12 yo Dell computer w/ 8gb ram (maxed), 500gb SSD, intel pentium processor (2012), graphics chip on motherboard, running win 10 pro for things like internet, email, KZbin, and Microsoft office. I still enjoyed the video and content though.

[@ByteSizeTech]

If your budget or needs are modest... you can go low end, that's ok. One big concern is that your PC is not secure, and never will be again. It's a hardware issue, it's not supported. An i3-10100 can be had board and chip for pretty cheap and would be a huge upgrade.

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

@@ByteSizeTech that would be the WEEEE upgrade of the century ^^ ;)

[@TheTastefulThickness]

The 4070 super is the deal. Not the 4070.

[@ByteSizeTech]

That is true... look at when the live stream was recorded. :)