2024 Subaru WRX RS/TR Races Hyundai Elantra N and Honda Civic Type R Gap City! Drag and Roll Race.

[@Mr.Bisquik]

Excited to see this race. It's a good comparison of straight line performance, but in the real world and driver skill, the results will vary (especially with MT). We know the CTR is slightly better and should be with the biggest price tag, The WRX obviously has it's all season benefits of awd. The N is the best bang for your buck compared to the CTR, ITS, Si, Integra A-spec, GTI, and GLI. I have a Veloster N 6MT and it's slightly slower than the EN, but in real world performance my quickest time on a drag strip was 13.8 1/4, with still room for improvement being my first time.

[@pompano_jedi172]

@@Mr.Bisquik i have an fl5 but I can live and probably enjoy the elantra N as much if not more 👍

[@NissanAltimaGuy]

Not gonna lie though that Subaru EATS from a dig! Shii was gone lmao

[@wizels1403]

all subes come standard awd

[@The_Animal_Man]

​​@@wizels1403The subaru Brz would like to have a word with you...

[@kawrmm]

dude you’re everywhere in the car video comments

[@NissanAltimaGuy]

@@kawrmm I have lots of opinion and how dare I not share with the world 🤣

[@Ryan-cp4rh]

It’s AWD. How are you surprised?

[@MidnightAspec]

In conclusion: 'VTEC kicked in yo!' still applies!! 😄

[@knp44]

😂

[@elikinzie23]

@@MidnightAspec lol saying some random bs means nothing🤣

[@MidnightAspec]

@@elikinzie23 ok buddy. Good look in rehab, btw.

[@elikinzie23]

@@MidnightAspec” 🤡 “ type shi 😂 my kitchen countertop can develop more intelligent comebacks💀 goofy

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

i still would take the 4wd wrx over the other fwd cars

[@tonybarnes2920]

Just by the benchracing numbers alone, it's always going to be the Civic Type R, but that Elantra N is putting in work! And of course the Subbie is gonna own the dig w/AWD.

[@beech6522]

Subie isn’t an upgraded engine either… with the base model it’s just as fast and under $30k I believe

[@Duran762]

As soon as I saw a Manual Elantra I knew it was gonna lose. DCT would made it much more interesting.

[@klasseact6663]

...plus it's probably not octane learned either, does make a difference. As an EN owner myself I hate the "excuse maker" greatly because we're saddled with it.

[@M4B21S88]

I see what youre saying, but given that the type R is MT only, MT vs MT seems most fair.

[@klasseact6663]

@M4B21S88 yeah we get it for sure😇

[@Symphoniics]

@@M4B21S88Even then, this EN driver was doodoo buns at launching. Go watch the U-Drag video from Edmunds. The EN 6MT was able to launch better than the CTR in both races in that video.

[@anthonyscott5484]

It's just blatantly obvious that most KZbinrs also just paint the N in a bad light when they drag race it........ Sam can't do track cuz hes not a good driver. And most people don't go on track and so these 40 year old boys will see a SL race and think this is the better car... Childish.. Id argue that the type R hides Sam's deficiencies as a manual driver. It was obvious in other EN videos with sam driving everyone called him out for sucking in the N he couldn't shift for anything

[@Shono731]

All awesome cars!! I own a 2023 FL5! I traded my 2019 FK8 in for it and the FL5 is in my opinion all around a better car! The WRX and Elantra N are incredible cars as well! It was fun to watch and just enjoy the fun of the video! Until a person has driven an FL5 it’s hard to explain how good it really is! I love mine a lot! I’ve owned a few different generations of Si’s before and they are great cars too! Awesome video! Fun to watch!

[@pompano_jedi172]

Same. Came from a '15 wrx and still feels like the fl5 has more grip and close to zero body roll in autocross. Got so much faster in the fl5 even with the stock tires (my wrx has re71s)

[@chrisvigo4880]

I have a fl5 and wouldn't touch anything else....its the quality so I didn't mind spending the extra cash knowing that it's a special vehicle that will last me a long time if cared for properly

[@MDKN22]

So will the other two.

[@StrongerThanEver84]

I wouldn't touch the other 2 just for how incredibly ugly they are 😂.

[@ranran2218]

Waiting for all the subi owners to say if you just mod it a little it will perform better, but this is a stock for stock comparison. Not sure why so many peoples feelings get hurt over this stuff

[@klasseact6663]

The 6 spd EN doesn't make 286 hp, only the DCT does and it has to be octane learned too🤷‍♂️🙄

[@AlexGtheDon]

Octane learning gives MORE that 286.... that is stock.

[@klasseact6663]

@@AlexGtheDon doesn't make 276 @15 psi🤷‍♂️

[@klasseact6663]

@AlexGtheDon are you buddy's with N-baby by chance🤔😋

[@AlexGtheDon]

@@klasseact6663 dude I sell CTR’s for a living. And I have driven both. And I own an 18 ES FBO and tuned and a 22 EN lightly modded. The DCT EN and my DCT ES are faster than a CTR. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@klasseact6663]

@@AlexGtheDon a tuned Elantra Sport is faster than a CTR...🤓🤡🤓🤡

[@Ch1797]

It’s funny that EVERY SINGLE VIDEO has someone complaining about transmissions/races not being fair/times etc.. just enjoy the damn video for what it is, there aren’t many videos like these out there that we all haven’t already seen. It’s Friday guys, lighten up and enjoy! :-)

[@its.Andy1]

Seriously. If it’s not one thing, it’s another.

[@Ch1797]

@@its.Andy1 yep. I see people complaining it’s a manual Elantra but if it were the DCT people would be complaining it’s not fair bc manual vs DCT with the type r and wrx.. just enjoy it for what it is. Kids fail to realize that Sam is spending money making entertaining videos for us

[@Fadic4]

I don’t get how people are complaining it’s not fair, them being all manuals makes it the most equal.

[@Ch1797]

@@Fadic4 that’s what I’m saying haha people just don’t make any sense

[@charlesturner5195]

​@Fadic4 it's not about equal its about which is better in it's best form not making one slower so it's equal

[@egorlike1324]

Thank you for showing what real world fwd vs awd looks like from a dig😅

[@dexterjackson5513]

Subaru guy missed a gear for sure

[@rubenblackburn2768]

Have you tried the Ioniq 5 N?

[@NBABY-J]

Sam if you want to run a dct EN vs a FL5 Type r. just say the word.

[@Soh90]

Nice of the WRX to show up to be a camera car in the roll races

[@tipilot3791]

@Soh90 maybe if subarus were more popular in germany they'd make a car that doesn't stop pushing after the speed limit 😭😭

[@sbmcneill]

I don’t know much about the tuning potential of the type R or the N (and I’m sure they’re good), but for $150 + $700 for the AccessPort, I have an E40 off the shelf tune that gives my VB another 50-60 whp and 100 ft-lbs of torque on totally stock hardware. I do love that type R though. Best looking of the bunch for sure.

[@waybach]

@@sbmcneill what’s the $150 price for?

[@sbmcneill]

@@waybach $700 for the AccessPort, $150 for the OTS tune from Dmann (Felix performance) or Graham (Boosted Performance) which both give big increase over the Cobb Stage 1 tunes which come with the AccessPort. Their pump gas tunes give another 20 whp over Cobb stage 1, and their E30/E40 tunes give another ~20+ whp. So basically $850 can get you around ~320 whp, 360 wtq which makes it a totally different car. 0-60 in the mid/high 4 second range. No hardware updates. This is purely an OTS tune exercise so if something goes wrong, can fix with totally stock parts too.

[@waybach]

@@sbmcneill ohhhh for the tune gotcha, question.. You think voiding your warranty was worth it or do you ever have some sort of regret? I’m on the fence not just for the AP, but to get a AOS

[@GJDMJR]

@@sbmcneill yeah the VB is a absolute beast, no mods needed stock hardware it makes so much more power. And just basic mods makes a massive power increase

[@sbmcneill]

@@waybach 0 regrets but do your own research. Go check out some VB WRX groups and see for yourself how reliable this engine has been so far in the tuning community. You will be hard pressed to find a failure, and the ones you do are pushing 400+ wtq. The OTS tunes completely transform the car and are no where near it's limit.

[@popsandbangs8858]

First mistake , the elantra N manual stock is 276bhp not 286bhp 2nd i though it's the dct cause there’s no one single drag racing the elantra N DCT versus the current GEN civic type R so I prefer the automatic version over this .

[@deenycest10710]

Sam said Elantra N is supercharged lol

[@juanticimo]

you couldnt be more correct. they should have put the DCT version against these 2

[@deenycest10710]

@@juanticimo 12.9 second videos of stock DCT Elantra N's 1/4 mile on youtube. This video is a disservice to the N. DCT is cheaper than WRX and R and would not have even been close!

[@S8ER]

@@juanticimowhy though? Manual vs manual makes sense… DCT vs manual seems like a waste of everyone’s time.

[@enmass90]

Why would anyone buy a drivers car in automatic though. Especially one that’s FWD.

[@RodofAllTrades]

Let's compare these in the wet and snow and see what happens! I'd say it would be a massacre in favor of the WRX. I went from a Civic Si to a WRX and I'm glad I did!

[@KelliMorgan93]

And after that, let's see it in a bayou with 2 feet of water. Just enjoy the video, 3 fun cars.

[@Aki_Lesbrinco]

Also, lets see them dropping from planes on a free fall to see which one hits the ground faster or maybe going up stairs.🙄

[@andrewSUN17]

Well, what we see, yet again...HP/Torque is king and AWD saps some of it on top of that!

[@ederreyes6529]

Hey Sam love the video!! I would love to see the Elantra Dct against the fk8 type R. As the 6 speed Elantra only makes 276hp as compared to the dct Elantras 286hp!

[@deancm9302]

Nice lunch on that second run Sam

[@jonttran1092]

I have a 22 Elantra N M/T.. not an easy car to launch, wheel hope really shackles them.. I have the motor mount which eliminates most of it but even then, too much rpm and its wheelspin crazy. The rolls runs are far more indicative here, wrx is way behind the other two.. realistically no one will launch their wrx at 5000rpm to get away that quick so for the rest of the time, it’s slow it was gobbled up by the Elantra N and type R on the rolls

[@PolishBullitt]

Good races brother, it’s always good to see Elantra N trying to beat Type R haha 💪😃

[@AlexGtheDon]

You should drive up there and race your car while octane learned.

[@Youcallthesebagels_]

@@AlexGtheDonevery modern car octane learns 😂 stop with the excuses lol. It takes minutes of driving anyway 🤣

[@MarkDrisch]

The old N still wins all around. $13k difference before taxes and IF you can find the R at MSRP. The performance gap isn't large enough to warrant $13k+ more. The 2024 Elantra N looks way better than the other 3 cars, sounds better, and you can get it with a DCT, which is the better transmission.

[@Kc50454]

😂😂 looks better lol looks like a pile of l shit no road presence at all compared to the ctr

[@wolfdna788]

That civic is almost $100,000 American dollars here in Puerto Rico 😮

[@MrJjburgess11]

Holy shit 😂

[@msrr8151]

$62k

[@Itr-tv7kt]

As a owner of a VB wrx. I knew it was gonna be the slowest one of them all

[@jairhernandez7433]

@@Itr-tv7kt even without owning one everyone knows it was going to lose

[@eduardocorral8490]

I have a 2020 STI, and I still don’t know if the new VB WRX is suppose just be just as fast or faster than the STI. Is it?????

[@DTEL77]

Great video, its great to see popular enthusiast cars going head to head. The outcome is not surprising, but that's not the point. Its how they get there, and how different price points and approaches compare. On real roads, with gravel and potholes and whatnot, the WRX might be fastest option.

[@gr3nad3filmz54]

If u guys ever want to use a tuned elantra N, would love to see what she can do vs others in the same category. I have a 23 EN 6spd with few bolt ons and tuned. So far beat a fbo tuned fk8 type r

[@فهدبورحيمه]

You forgot to mention type r price +20k mark up 😂😂😂

[@alexg9727]

hes delusional and thinks he can get msrp

[@alexg9727]

have yet to see anyone acctually prove it other then a youtuber with like 5 mil subs

[@alexg9727]

savagegeese would not even show what he paid

[@pfwww12]

I owned a 94 Acura Legend. And back then ppl use say..Honda has legendary gearboxes. And til this day I don't disagree. Honda gear ratios are just bananas

[@sirprince888]

Another great video, Sam! The Type R is still the best but for value, The Elantra N wins. Would love to see you include and test the Kia Stinger 2.5t in your next video. Cheers!

[@pfwww12]

Seems like that 3rd gear on the Type R is a beast

[@pompano_jedi172]

@@pfwww12 that famous type r third gear 🙌🏻

[@brandonsok1912]

My very first car was an 03 wrx brand new. Can’t believe after 21 years the quarter mile and 0-60 time is the same. 😂

[@SuzukiKid400]

Don’t get it twisted, they’re nothing alike.

[@fboettcher]

And probably won't change in another 21 years.

[@mike-sc2nk]

Again Sam. You are very good at launching manual cars. The type-r is not easy

[@boostusa4688]

I would like to see the Elantra N dual clutch against these cars. The Civic type R is the fastest Civic The Elantra N dual clutch is the fastest Elantra

[@CTF33]

It's like everyone is to scared to race the N DCT because the type R would lose every time and that would make honda look bad.

[@chrism869]

@@CTF33 it would only loose from a dig tho, would probably match the dct elantra n or barely win or lose, depends of how quickly the driver in the type r shifts

[@Z06Phil]

Damn too bad they choked the Wrx from factory only 12 psi of boost stock. But when u turn it up to 18 psi with an intake on pump gas it’s a mid 12 second car. Trust me I had one and it moved out

[@seffseffseffseffseff1662]

Exactly, the performance ceiling on the wrx is way heigher due to fa24 and awd, only thing holding it back is the transmission

[@BOOSTEDDUDE]

Cool showdown. Pretty much the results I expected. I wonder if you would also have to pay a duty tax to buy the WRX in Canada and then take it back to the States.

[@Its_kingg]

Sam race the Kia forte vs Honda civic vs Toyota corolla

[@Kavinda-x2t]

Imagine if the civic didn’t have a wing holding it back in straight line races

[@Rjamojam54321]

But this wing creates more downforce and less drag opposed to the other designers wings on the older models. This one’s actually more functional

[@DriverBob14]

@@Kavinda-x2t Don't have to imagine, the Integra Type S is exactly that.

[@Casual-Pie]

How is this fair? 2 cars are over 40k to buy, and 1 is 35k. At least use the wet clutch on the EN. That would make it 38k~ or have a few mods on the EN with manual so that the prices can match up

[@hahaadventures4838]

WRX was surprisingly good considering it’s down so much power and 300lbs heavier. A mild tune, CAI and exhaust and it’s the best of these 3 cars hands down!

[@19hundoc47]

Dumb comment. Tune and mod the other cars and the WRX is last again. What a dumb comment

[@juanticimo]

with just a tune my man.... a Dmann ots tune on 93 is 315whp.... thats not even talking the 340 ish torque... just a tune... yes... with an intake, FMI, and mid pipe, that civic will struggle to keep up at any power level less than 500whp, and even then it will only pull up top like it did here. The type R is amazing out of the box, but once you start adding power it really falls apart. its pretty much at its limits for functionality.

[@eduardomaldonado5793]

@@juanticimothat’s just not true… it the type r would struggle to keep up a tuned wrx yes is nice and can max out at what 380-390 whp before you need to worry about the transmission a fbo type r can push above 400 no problem and as always it’s a few hundred pounds lighter from a dig it will struggle but roll type would eat a Subaru

[@Tony-bp9wn]

@@juanticimowhere you getting your information on lmao

[@dnegel9546]

@@Tony-bp9wnmy money would still be in the civc around a track

[@chriscarson8056]

Get a DCT Elantra N. It’s a race, why bring the slower car? Doesn’t make sense.

[@Marbind]

Who is going to drive a person or a computer?

[@Aki_Lesbrinco]

Maybe, just maybe they wanted to have all manuals to make it take the computer shifting out of the equation and make it an apples to apples comparison. I know it sounds crazy, but maybe that's why.

[@RobertOfStAlbans_]

@@MarbindSo mo need to race auto cars? Lmao retarded statement.

[@jmmch3358]

I still consider that the Elantra N its the best all around performance sport car for the money

[@Mehrbod9]

The type R is almost 20k more expensive (with markups), and barely wins against Elantra N.

[@fifasf3379]

So we learned that the N is a great bang for the buck , yes it didn’t beat the type R but was close and its way cheaper . Both are track cars more so not drag so I’m curious how track times would compare . If you over spend for a type R good for you but if I wanted a car like this I would do an N with some engine mods . More bang for the buck

[@TheBreakfastLover]

but the EN lost to the WRX though

[@pompano_jedi172]

As a type R owner, I would be equally happy if I settled for an N.

[@popsandbangs8858]

@@fifasf3379 watch savage geese video comparison

[@nyarkofelix7922]

​@@TheBreakfastLover and thr typeR or that doesn't fit your narrative

[@TheBreakfastLover]

@@nyarkofelix7922 you're correct, the Type R *and* the WRX both beat the Elantra N. It's a given the Civic Type R and Integra Type S are the Big 2 of the segment.

[@OOOnanana]

VB WRX Base for 31k will reap the same results.... now thats a steal

[@GamertagO1]

Please invest in high speed cameras for your profile shots of cars crossing the finish line. It’s a blurry mess as of now.

[@mholmes9262]

My 24 yr old daughter has the Elantra N with the 8DCT. It’s a great car. What doesn’t really get captured here is the driving experience, and the EN has so much more personality than the CTR. The CTR will beat it on a track, no doubt, but the engine sounds like a vacuum cleaner. The EN snorts, pops, and delivers so much more of what makes a car fun to drive on the street. Besides, both are FWD cars, so traction will always be a limiting factor on acceleration runs, and high RPM launches at stop lights are going to make you look like an idiot. Just enjoy them at a sane pace and appreciate what they offer, which is a well built car with plenty of power for a good time, and handling grace to make any twisty road a blast to drive on. On this front, I think the Elantra N is the easy choice among these three. Oh, another thing…every time my daughter comes to visit, you can tell it’s her before she even pulled into the culdesac, because the car announces itself with the factory tuned exhaust. Even my neighbor with the GT3 RS appreciates it for what it is.

[@CeejaaySnow]

@@mholmes9262 Type R is way better than Elantra.

[@Symphoniics]

@@CeejaaySnowIt’s not tho

[@anthonyscott5484]

​@@CeejaaySnowNah. Not for the price. Not that much better.

[@layne4376]

Cognitive dissonance at its finest. Cheap interior, dodgy quality, poor resale. There is no place that the Hyundai is superior than the Civic. At least you can get it off MSRP, mind you.

[@Symphoniics]

@@layne4376Things the EN does better than the CTR: - EN DCT 0-60 and 1/4 times are faster - Infotainment is miles better - Exhaust and engine sounds are WAY more fun - EN’s LSD is surprisingly superior according to TheTopher (FL5 CTR owner here on KZbin who does car reviews). - EN can kick the back out more easily to prevent understeer - Warranty - Price

[@kennethmukuka3715]

Honda the power of dreams

[@MK3504]

Thank god u stopped caring about 0-60 digs. Road courses are in another world

[@djmysticalone321]

I drove the wrx today fun car

[@tdub25]

We need to have Elantra n manual v. Elantra n dsg…. Do the same with the gti…. I’d like to visualize what the added performance of the dsg actually looks like

[@skip741x3]

A gti with the manual "felt" subjectively quicker than the DSG when i compared them back to back but its probably not with a stopwatch... its the extra control and ability you have to keep it in the meat of the powerband with a manual that gives that impressionj... absolutely fantastic ,mechanical feeling short throw shifter in the gti..For laughs ,I test drove before these new 23 model yrsgti's, I tested a 2016 that had an intake, exhaust and what seemed like a tune... it had a dsg also and it would roast the tires in 1st, 2nd and thru 3rd gear with 2 people in the car.!..neither of the new cars had anywhere near that much power... felt over 325 whp easily, maybe more...that one didnt look anything special, a real sleeper, but would have eaten all 3 of these cars here for lunch

[@vdlion717]

Not sure why the wrx TR was used? Just to artificially increase its price to look more in line with the other cars? A base wrx could have been used and it would have been exactly the same outcome but at 31k usd. This isnt a track race, all the bits added to the TR do nothing for it in a straight line.

[@realaveragegamer3053]

I'm making 310 whp with my 22 Wrx. I take, catback on 93. Making 19.6 lbs of boost. For a little money you get alot of hp.

[@juanticimo]

yea people average 310-315 hp with a dmann tune on 93... e30 is liike 325/370 tq

[@dog_transport_fw]

@@juanticimo e30 is like 375-385whp/390wtq

[@Z06Phil]

Get an intake I had an intake and 93 protune and I made 329 whp

[@dheeradjlachman9658]

Honda Stays the king of hothatches❤🎉

[@popsandbangs8858]

@@dheeradjlachman9658 true & the EN is the benchmark of fwd sport sedans

[@SME5724]

@@popsandbangs8858lol

[@TheBb6prelude]

​@@popsandbangs8858n is the standard? 😂,on what planet?

[@TheBb6prelude]

​@@popsandbangs8858type R is the standard

[@uludak8468]

​@@TheBb6preludegolf r is state of the art

[@adsmel5881]

I only they would make the type R in a DCt so I could buy one, my dodgy left knee can't do clutches anymore stupid getting old!

[@KobeMpthers]

How about the 2.5 stinger against all of these?

[@AnthonyParrilloRI]

How does buying a Canadian car work with living in the US. Are there changes that need to be made to meet American restrictions?

[@Emilthehun]

Sam!!! Stop driving the hero car bro! Would be nice to see civic vs ct4 v. They about the same price without the honda markup. Who got a ct4 v?

[@josuecaraballo7]

Elantra 2023? And the 2024? Is the same?

[@SamCarLegion]

Facelift only

[@SuperFitness12]

2024 Looks much better! Best car for the money by far.

[@josuecaraballo7]

@@SamCarLegion 👍👍

[@victorherrero4790]

Kind of obvious video. 1 The Civic has the most HP and Torque. 2 The Civic is the lightest. 3 Civic is the most expensive. So its kinda of no brainer that the Type R was going to win. The WRX ts has stiffer chassis, better tires and brembo brakes so it does not have more power over the regular WRX Further it would be more accurate to have the 3 drivers swap cars over each attempt and then take an average of the 3 drivers on each car to be more accurate and not biased. Furthermore it would be even better to see a real circuit hot lap race rather than a drag race.

[@Eugen-E]

Civic the lightest...by 20 kilos, that's nothing.

[@victorherrero4790]

​@@Eugen-E Almost 100kgs vs the WRX and more than 30 hp

[@Eugen-E]

@@victorherrero4790 20 kilos lighter than the elantra.

[@victorherrero4790]

I guess you are kind of blind bro..the Type R is 5 kgs lighter than the Elantra but with 29 more Hps and 20 lb ft more torque. Anyway the Type R has the more power.

[@Eugen-E]

@@victorherrero4790 elantra n is underrated. It makes about 20hp more than they say.

[@aflyingducky]

This race basically turned out on paper as it did in reality.

[@patrickbilodeau3785]

Please do the exact same race but with a DCT equipped Elantra N ! Both the WRX and Type R are the best versions of themselves....not the case with the Elantra N !

[@dmars6064]

Was the WRx on S - Sport mode ?????????

[@LXIXBK]

The Subaru premium eats up all these because of practical use and affordability. Tr trim is a waste of money

[@juanticimo]

agreed.. I have the limited, but the premium is the value proposition, and once you start adding parts.... these other two cars really fall behind... problem is the wrx isnt as good to look at as the CTR.

[@ex6277]

@@juanticimo with wheels and suspension the WRX looks amazing, just gotta put some money down to make it look good haha

[@pompano_jedi172]

@@LXIXBK should have tuned the 2.4 at least 300 and include LSD. Was very disappointed when they didn't make an STI. I felt betrayed by subaru after waiting on it for years in my 15wrx

[@mistamaog]

​@@pompano_jedi172Some say it has to do with Toyota's 20% stake in Subaru, and wanting to release the GR Corolla

[@1mpulv]

These are great cars but wow, it's like the exterior designers are having an ugly off

[@timothybarela1305]

Couldn't agree more. Its been mostly downhill since the mid 2000s. I miss all the sleek, sculpted, sexy cars.

[@bds990]

From an engineering and long term reliability standpoint point my money will always be on the HONDA… Elantra is a value bargain no doubt but if money isn’t a factor still think the Honda is a better car

[@4drturbo85]

Wrong. 276hp for the Elantra. Only makes 286 with the DCT model

[@van_der_lindeDA]

Waiting for the octane learning comments 😂

[@AlexGtheDon]

You're just mad your CTR doesn't have it. 😂

[@drivescene6747]

😂😂😂😂 you beat me to it. It’s always “why didn’t you use the DCT?” Or “it’s not Octane learned.” 😂😂😂

[@AlexGtheDon]

@@drivescene6747 is the CTR not the best version of what a civic is? Because I’m pretty sure it is. So therefore, they should use the best version of an Elantra N Which is the dual clutch transmission. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ CTR fanboyz afraid of getting shown up by a EN 13k less in price! 😂🤣😂🤡🤡🤡

[@drivescene6747]

@@AlexGtheDon I’m not a CTR fanboy at all, my car is faster than all of these cars in the video and much faster than a freaking DCT EN, so I have no bone in this. I’m just observing how miserable you guys are across multiple forums. Does it have to do with the fact that a lot of you have to justify purchasing a Hyundai?

[@ChuckNorrisxxxking]

Pretty sure the owner did it before since he problably know his car xD

[@SchleighSimeon]

I love the type r but the N is a way better bang for the buck.

[@vtucci87]

Wow.... subaru has come so far🙄. I ran a 14.3 in my 06 WRX TR with just an intake. No tune.

[@X4Piper]

And the FK8 pulls a bit faster on a roll so the FK8 would beat all 3 technically on a roll

[@matthewaltenore628]

LMFAO im sure with just a simple tune on that WRX... rolls would go better.

[@carlohenley4044]

At any kind of sane street speeds, the Elantra wins. Best daily driver of the bunch!

[@housepianist]

Kind of looks like something happened with the WRX in the 3rd drag race because the R and the N caught up to it much sooner than in the second race. Shift issues?

[@SlowFk8]

The fwd tire got warmer and hooked better as they did more digs

[@charterd]

Civic is the best, but way more expensive does not worth the price difference.

[@robsnow2099]

I thought they couldn’t race 3 cars at a time here, is this a different location?

[@jedwin4816]

Why not try this same race in rain, snow or mud?

[@starrja]

The WRX would love those conditions

[@jedwin4816]

We'll never know unless some You Tube Clown does it.

[@MikeYurbasovich]

​@@starrjaBut then other awd cars would shat on it.

[@GERONIMO326]

I've owned both (CTR and N) and I can tell you that the CTR is better in every category, and IS worth the extra money. It is in an entirely different league! It's LITERALLY a FWD Porsche Cayman, except better. One of the greatest cars ever made. Best manual shifter ever, best sport bucket seats ever, best steering feel in a modern car, one of the best handling cars ever made. When taking into account everything (cost of ownership, daily drivability, comfort, performance, RELIABILITY) the only thing that competes with it is the Camaro SS 1LE. It and the CTR are the best performance bargains under 50k dollars NO QUESTION.

[@supertemplar3340]

Put the stock s4 vs the type R vs Wrx, that would be a good race, similar price and horsepower

[@bestkickz2464]

Would love to see these race but with 5k in mods!

[@mharro88]

Why not use the DCT N it's so much quicker.

[@promodelred]

@@mharro88 Because everything else in the race is manual? Why WOULD you use the DCT N?

[@UgAboi]

For an apples to apples comparison of MT

[@g0d182]

because men exist who drive manual

[@uludak8468]

​​@@UgAboibut why AWD then? wrx only won bc of this

[@Symphoniics]

@@promodelredThis obsession over matching transmissions but ignoring drivetrain and other legitimate differences is crazy… Plus, even if it isn’t fair, it’s great content that viewers clearly want to see.

[@t-lawsfitness6044]

The elantra and wrx just need a tune and they win. The civic cost way more with dealer mark ups

[@ArcticN]

yo sam when are you going to get a ioniq 5 N on the channel the elantra is cool and all but its not hyundai's peak car anymore

[@drunkinmaster1]

2024 Elantra-N has better engine mounts to reduce wheel-hop

[@spitfirenutspitfirenut4835]

Engine mounts have nothing to do with wheel hop.

[@AlexGtheDon]

@@spitfirenutspitfirenut4835 They sure as fuck do. And its really the lower tranny mount that helps the most. I know I have two turbo Elantra's, one FBO and e30 tuned, the other mostly stock.

[@sjhudon386]

Yes they do. Especially the torque mounts.​@spitfirenutspitfirenut4835

[@Willfyb]

They never use the DCT N knowing its going to do much better than the 6spd 😔

[@SamCarLegion]

We have used the dct before

[@Willfyb]

@@SamCarLegion I know. Love the videos. Would like to see the DCT against these two cars. I understand that it makes more sense to use the 6spd in this situation 🫱🏽‍🫲🏾

[@Jesse-x4o]

Sam they always complain it's hard to swallow that R-Pill apparently 😂

[@Willfyb]

@@Jesse-x4o just wanted to see how my car compares? I love the type r too 🤔

[@Jesse-x4o]

@@Willfyb it's just pointless to take a automatic or dct and put it against a manual. Not just in this comparison but in general.

[@pfwww12]

I live in America. Specifically the East Coast🏆 ...but none the less...Nobody in America cares about a Subaru WRX anymore. And it's sad because I'm 40 and it's a legendary Car. But yeah..We only by hatchback imprezas, CrossTreks and OutBacks lol Dead ass lol

[@Steve10MR]

My name is SAM, and I suck at driving especially stick shift 😂

[@dustinm8800]

There's no question that the specs on the Honda would win. Come on

[@martlodrld5934]

Now a competition on snow or dirt hahaha I think 2 cars would be left skidding

[@SlowFk8]

Most people aint buy these other 2 cars for driving in dirt or snow. Its a track car. They all slow in the straights

[@ROVA00]

Well no shit… the Subaru is the only one designed for rallying. That’s like looking a champion marathoner and say “oh he’s good, but if you out him in the 100 m swimming race he’s going to get smoked”.

[@martlodrld5934]

@@SlowFk8 What do you say, driving a WRX in the snow or dirt is unique, you don't need your wife's truck to drive in the snow or dirt.

[@martlodrld5934]

@@ROVA00 Exactly, that's why putting the WRX only in drag races is the same thing.

[@ROVA00]

@@martlodrld5934 yes and no. The wrx is actually excellent in drag races because the AWD gives it a huge advantage off a dig. The problem for the wrx ends up being weight and HP, which limit it on the top end. Subarus are famous for costing an arm and a leg to make power reliably. I don’t have personal experience with the newer 2.4L engines, but the EJ255 and 257 could not really handle more than 380ish whp before needing to upgrade pistons and bearings to avoid blowing up. In fact, these engines would often blow ring lands just for adding an intake and downpipe without a proper tune. I can say with some confidence that it would cost at least $12-15k to make 500whp RELIABLY on the EJ’s. I had a 350whp 2006 STI and I could beat my buddy’s c5 corvette with a launch… but then he’d pass me once we got to around 80mph lol HOWEVER, the FWD cars really have the biggest disadvantage on a drag race.

[@novoice9286]

im taking the Elantra N

[@leelarkins1321]

Whomp The awd car’s launch better

[@keoki777]

Sam can shift better than most.

[@SamCarLegion]

@@keoki777 i am ok I am not that great.

[@javicruzito]

Yeah that's a clear example of 300+ hp

[@promobius4603]

You guys only showed the race where the Elantra driver botches the launch. I swear there is a conspiracy to not let the Elantra be faster than the civic.

[@Marbind]

Not a single test out there shows that the EN 6mt is faster.🤷‍♂

[@tommyistommy]

Thank you for making this direct comparison video. I am throughly unimpressed with all 3 of these cars, how have sport compacts made no progress in the last 15-20 years? WRX is the same speed it was in 2002. Type R does not perform any better than a STI or Evo. The Elantra N is a modern MS3 or Cobalt SS Turbo. Fast for price but wheel hop, awful interior, torque steer... The rest of the automotive world improved performance greatly, why have sport compacts been stuck in the mud?

[@marvincaraballo3135]

We need a toyota GR drag race Gr86 Gr corolla Gr supra 2.0

[@fastlaneflyby]

Wrx’s are good camera car

[@yoltsbp]

That subi has the least power and most weight. It’s also the easiest and cheapest car to gain hp 3500$ with parts and tune included and your at 400whp and more if you do an ethanol blend. Crazy if you ask me the type r and en need a lot more money dumped in

[@juanticimo]

and the type R starts to lose its functionality passed 325whp... ask me how I know, I had an FK8... all the gimmicks and tricks honda uses to reduce torque steer, and maintain grip is lost once you start to add power.. the tire package you need to hook up at just 350whp is insane... on stock rubber first and second gear are useless at just 325whp, unless you boost by gear but then you arent making 325 in first and second... so its just a roll car, and not even that good on the track anymore because it cant put the power down out of corners.

[@StormFK8]

@@juanticimo no clue what you're talking about, im pushing 400whp and know many 500+ whp type r's on untouched motors, all are able to put the power down perfectly fine. Im only $4k into engine mods and i make 400whp. not to talk down on the wrx because it is a great new platform, but thats a lot of misinformation on the fk8/fl5. im on 265 tires all around and 18" wheels and the setup cost me less than $1200 new and i have zero issues putting the power down. i take the car to autocross and track days and it comes out of corners like a rocket, with veryyy little understeer.

[@FK_H8r]

⁠@@juanticimofalse. 530whp CTR that puts the power down fine. Proper tire and suspension setup does wonders. No “functionality” lost whatsoever

[@eduardomaldonado5793]

@@StormFK8exactly idk where people are getting their info about type r not being about to passed 400whp reliably 😂

[@COne-qu2pf]

@juanticimo you just don't know how to drive if you can't handle 325 fwd whp car lol. It's not spinning every gear. Learn to manipulate the gas and buy yourself an auto instead.

[@Jackson-son]

Elantra driver is sleeping all the races