0-150-0 Speed Test 2023 | Car and Driver

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Hitting 150 mph is tough. Stopping from 150 mph is even more punishing. Which is why we decided to do both, back to back.
00:00 Intro
01:44 History and testing methodology
03:43 Honda Civic Type R, 52.7 sec
04:50 Hyundai Elantra N, 47.0 sec
05:49 Volkswagen Golf R, 40.2 sec
06:46 Bentley Bentayga S, 32.8 sec
07:50 Kia EV6 GT, 31.2 sec
08:43 Toyota GR Supra, 31.1 sec
09:34 Ford Mustang Dark Horse, 29.7 sec
11:07 Bentley Continental GT Speed, 24.8 sec
12:07 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing, 24.7 sec
13:09 Porsche 911 GT3 RS, 24.4 sec
14:33 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 22.5 sec
15:56 Porsche 911 Turbo S, 19.3 sec and 200 mph
19:02 Where's the Tesla Model S Plaid and Lucid Air Sapphire?
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[@CarlosLago]

Thank you for watching! Be sure to read the story for more information, technical details, and video each car's run: www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a45765297/0-150-0-mph-speed-test-2023/ Wondering why your favorite car wasn't included? Chances are we invited it and it wasn't available. We tried!

[@Flooberjobby]

So what you're telling me is these numbers mean absolutely nothing because you didn't eliminate driver factor and just focus on the cars performance?

[@CarlosLago]

@@Flooberjobby That's the thing about cars: Someone has to drive them.

[@C-Los68]

Too bad there weren't any tuner based cars in this test, like back in '98.

[@johnyc2744]

Hitting 150 mph is tough. Stopping from 150 mph is even more punishing. Yeah...dumb logic.

[@VK6AB-]

Your RS time to 150mph is very off beam, something very wrong there e.g. 19s, my 991.2 GT3 RS does it in just over 16. Should have had the 991 GT2 RS on as well, 0-150mph in about 12s.

[@BhutJolokias]

Interesting days when you can bring an Elantra to a 0-150-0 speed test.

[@hamie63_m]

I know right.. And a boxy EV Kia

[@petermello55]

Yeah thing was impressive for hyaundai

[@wbwayne8887]

Unfortunately they didn't bring the even quicker DCT version. It would have shaved some time off it's final numbers.

[@user-kj5cp8ur8z]

Especially when it beats a civic type r in this test

[@thomasgrabkowski8283]

And a Civic too

[@sleepeatdrive7619]

It’s crazy how that Turbo S will no problem go over 200 MPH again and again and again!!!

[@llavero5]

What is crazy exactly, My toaster toasts every morning and I'm not impressed. You think the car would exploit at 200mph or something?

[@garosama4517]

@@llavero5 EVs left the chat

[@llavero5]

@@garosama4517 It's not very useful to do that non stop anyway.

[@nitishgupta5959]

​@@llavero5habibi come to Germany

[@BurnsRubber]

Not just 0-200mph. 0-200-0 again and again and…

[@mickster1780]

watching that Turbo S going for 200 was like watching Top Gun Maverick trying to reach mach 10

[@ryanchapman3239]

Desire, respect, fear, and acceptance of what may be lol. Worth it.

[@kaldarleifar]

It´s absolutely insane that the Lingenfelter C4 ZR-1 came that close to the C8 Z06! What a beast that car would have been back in the day!

[@gabrielgonzalez6456]

Not only that it still beats a GT3 RS, about 25 years later. That’s insane!!

[@SoonerThunderFan]

There are so many variables that you can't compare 2 different tests even a couple days apart let alone in a different location, elevation, etc. The Lingenfelter was quick but by no means would it keep up with a C8 Z06. I've had the honor of driving both for extended periods- I have a neighbor with a spending problem. The problem is he can't outspend his bank account!

[@racingjason]

The ZR1 in that test had a fully built 415 stroker motor, gears etc. So don't confuse it with the OEM ZR1.

[@duanebailey6253]

Its not that hard to imagine at all. Could take a detuned nascar v8 from the 90's and have a faster car. Just look how well 90's civics do at all racing events despite small displacement.

[@tkobvious]

Those original tests were only 0-100-0 not 0-150-0 tho, or am I crazy?

[@victorpla29]

DONT CARE GIVE ME THE GT3

[@JJdaSamuRai]

Weirdo

[@commonduck10]

200k

[@WindyCity1992]

Do yall every get tired of idolizing And fanboying over this car?? Im Being serious. No disrespect 🤭

[@1naravz]

classic porsche fanboys

[@brendanli8861]

@@WindyCity1992no

[@porscheguy09]

A few of these cars impressed me by even hitting 150 mph in the first place.

[@lmc333]

Which ones?

[@kingGfour]

Let me guess the hyundai surprised you 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@DriverJ-N]

😂

[@porscheguy09]

@@lmc333 The Civic, Hyundai and the Kia. I would think that the Hyundai and Kia would be electronically limited to a lower speed and the Civic would struggle to reach 150 mph since it’s not designed for high speed but more for road courses with shorter gearing.

[@jshumphress13]

I’ll take any of these cars. I’ve got a solid vehicle, but it’s a family hauler. I want fun, but my motorcycle will have to fill that void for now.

[@suberizedwrx]

MAJOR respect to whoever put the video timeline together. Make, Model and TIME just by hovering my mouse over the time timeline!!! Thank you for saving me time. As a show of appreciation, this video gets a full watch from me!

[@zavatone]

THANK YOU for not having a shitload of ads.

[@asabrown1193]

UPDATE ADS every 2 minutes... review your subscription

[@patrickstar7693]

The fact that the GT3 RS goes this fast with such "little" power and this huge wing is insane

[@Northanteus]

Porsche obviously lightened the car up way more than the others, put racing tech in there. It is a street legal race car. It's no surprise.

[@martindimitrov2645]

They make Moto 3 single cylinder 250 cc does 150 and some other similar bikes

[@Rezcuz]

@@Northanteus "no surprise" - it's very impressive regardless

[@B__L]

@@Northanteus Honestly it's more impressive with the "racing tech". That wing will be slowing it's acceleration massively at 150mph.

[@Northanteus]

@@B__L If GM chooses to strip all of the daily convenience technology out of the C8 Corvette to lighten the car up by a lot, throw a much bigger wing on the back, with more down force design in the front and on the side, put all the race technology in there, etc. It'd be faster than the gt3rs on the track, no problem. GM wanted to give people a car that they can comfortably daily drive on the street, with convenience, or go cross country and then take it to the track for fun. This is not the same mindset Porsche had for the gt3rs. It's comparing apples to oranges. Don't do that. This is my point.

[@darkmatter6714]

Crazy to think that an F1 car can brake from 200mph to 0 in less than 4 seconds.

[@ej2civicb736]

Weight of a atv and brakes bigger than wheels on cars were 15 years ago why is that surprising

[@boardernut]

@@ej2civicb736 at 200mph the aerodynamic braking force decelerates a F1 car without touching the brake pedal at higar rate than any of these cars slamming on the brakes.

[@fabrb26]

The massive balls of the F1 drivers scrub the asphalte to both add some mechanical grip and energy dissipation during braking

[@peterjohnson8935]

Jonathan Palmer came to talk where I worked. He used to test the F1 McLarens of Senna and Prost. He said under hard braking he used to get tiny drops of moisture on the inside of his race helmet visor. It was negative G pulling moisture from his eye balls.

[@justinsane3517]

Don't want to disappoint you, but it's 0-200 KM/H in under 4sec. ;-)

[@robertprowell7933]

Thank you for all the hard work. Great video and information.

[@upshifter5316]

Wow! Those graphics, shots of the original test print brings back memories!! Probably read it 150 times as a kid. And I still have the issue in hand - I’ve never thrown one away.

[@KevZJ]

Watching the Lucid's speedo, I'm thinking "that must be kph." Nope. Insane

[@AdamAllen]

Mind bending numbers. 😵‍💫

[@spencer927]

Too be fair it was going downhill

[@zachjacobs3337]

@@spencer927 I don't think that matters too much in the case of the Lucid

[@lachlanB323]

@@spencer927 It would maybe reduce its time by 0.5 seconds MAX so it doesn't matter really. Wasn't a conclusive test but a 3 second+ difference can't be made back with stuff like slightly downhill headwind etc.

[@TheSuperlobo34]

I was thinking the same thing. I was like where are they?

[@Gltokensp06]

The Dark Horse out-braking the Porsche 911 Turbo S and Z06 shows that Ford was kinda serious about this $60,000 machine... Impressive. The GTD *might* be something to pay attention to.

[@dnice362]

60k ? You nuts? Check that price again

[@gcash2074]

Where are you getting one for 60,000?

[@dnice362]

@@gcash2074 for real lol add about 15-20k to that

[@wesgreen2812]

80k lol

[@benjaminmatute9085]

@dnice362 Yes. Ford sells it for 50k

[@SuperXarus]

Thanks for coming to Oscoda Mi. my home town. I hope you guys enjoyed your stay and took a look at the sights to see. please comeback soon.

[@roadsidemanners]

I just finished reading this article, great timing!

[@motormusique]

Very impressed by the CT5 Blackwing. What a performance bargain. And that Z06 how good does that sound!

[@leeboo2521]

Rode with a buddy in his Z06 and the way that thing sounds banging off shifts seriously made me consider buying a used one down the road

[@user-um3fx2vk8r]

@@leeboo2521 as it is a good car, 170k is really steep for a corvette lmao. thats 911 gts/turbo money, I couldnt bring myself to spend that on a corvette

[@jayhayes5924]

It's the ultimate sleeper and old man car. I'm 53 and have a ctsv so I know. Mine isn't the v3 or blackwing though.

[@jaredbrothers3409]

Too bad it looks like a Nissan

[@julianop.4241]

Also it's rwd, the fact that it does what it does with power going only to the rear wheels is just one hell of a car.

[@rwilson4073]

Would be great to see a graphic of all the cars racing side by side for a way to visualize these differences, but since the data is all there I might just make one for myself. Good stuff

[@UZForLife]

Whoa, whoa, woah! You're talking about Hagerty level videography there, pal.

[@bucketlist.original]

@@UZForLife Yeah, it's just the benchmark we are all dreaming of achieving!

[@user-ns9du4tl3m]

Sorry but this ain't Hagerty

[@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294]

Link it to us if you do.

[@ericfranke1637]

Would be neat to animate it too.

[@Kmancanada]

WHAT AN OPENING ! Nice editorial choice.

[@esahic1988]

This was awesome! Great video.

[@BB-pg5kl]

That turbo S is crazy! Also, I'm very impressed that the Mustang was able to out brake both the Z06 and 911 Turbo S.

[@ricksmith3045]

Yet a few seconds slower than the two big name electrics.

[@ruthnoya8424]

​@@ricksmith3045 Who cares? That's like comparing a Supermarine Spitfire to the first generation fighter jets. Any aviation enthusiast would take a Spitfire anyday, as any automobile enthusiast would take a Porsche over a tesla.

[@ricksmith3045]

@@ruthnoya8424 True, they would. Even with the IMS bearing issues that plagued them.

[@sleep_sounds]

It has no theater. It's like the beige of performance cars.

[@wow-sham1300]

@@ruthnoya8424 except that isn't correct its more like comparing an f-15 to a mig 25 both came from the same era but very different results, and any equestrian enthusiasts would take a horse over Porsche. because it ACTUALLY has a soul

[@isaiahisaiah2288]

Can't argue w/the Turbo S! Great in straight line, good on the track, as usable a backseat as you'll find in a supercar, doesn't look obnoxious like the GT3 RS, & the AWD makes it usable in any whether. 2nd I'd go w/the C8 Z06 ❤

[@chiragnegi6276]

I don't want backseats on a supercar it's a sports car not supercar

[@ronretired]

Well stated. Traded from 992 S to Turbo S. The Turbo serves as our daily and long country travels. The ZO6 (C8) shares track duty with the ZO6 (C7) version. The GT3 RS is just too hard core for me in MHO. The C8 ZO6 without a doubt is the Swiss Army knife of sport cars. Track, daily and country travelling. Still for everyday usability it stands behind our Turbo S.

[@isaiahisaiah2288]

@chiragnegi6276 🤣 IDK 🤷🏿‍♂️ what it is about the TurboS (particularly this 992 generation) that makes ppl real nitpicky about it. W/the lightweight package it does a 9sec 1/2mile... Throw Cup2 or Cup2Rs & you'd easily have a Sub 7min Nurburgring Time, does 0-60 in 2.4secs repeatedly, reliable AF, is a jack of all trades... Yet, "It's a Grand Tourer"... "It's a Sports Car"... while simultaneously matching or beating out other SuperCars of the times over the years from 997, 991, 992 generations😂 The M2 SC is a Sports Car, The GT3 Touring is a Sports Cars, The AMG GTS is a Sports Cars, The C8 Stingray is a Sports Car... a TurboS is in a completely different league. But hey, to each their own 👍

[@BrettL250]

@@chiragnegi6276 we should probably keep that your little secret

[@patatr4943]

GT3RS is probably the most pleasing vehicule to watch

[@coleswank5540]

great video and super great production!!

[@armyguy608]

What a freaking MILESTONE of humanity kind of statement to end the video on guys! 😮 Loved it!

[@stephenchapis268]

Great video. Amazing that the 1994 Lingenfelter ZR-1 is still a badass.

[@DMSR-35]

That Bentley Continental is crazy, I know it has a lot of horsepower but it never appeared as if it would have those kinds of performance capabilities. Truly magnificent combination of luxury and performance

[@pietdebeer7972]

my favourite by far of all the cars there. Luxury, performance, beauty.

[@Sickwitit18]

That was very impressive how only 2 cars were faster to 150

[@toolbaggers]

You should see it fly at the Niagara Falls border!

[@thisguy59]

@@toolbaggers🤣

[@facelessandnameless]

Seriously!

[@scottiegravit8350]

Love this. Well done. It would be fun to see a competition from top 5 or so tuners with the same cars given 1 week to modify. Same 0-150-0 test!!

[@BiragovDetailing]

Fantastic test!

[@louiecarrigan821]

The Gt3 is amazing, just like the Z06 and the Turbo S.

[@warewolf21]

Yeah, that's a beautiful machine! That's a track toy and would destroy every other car with ease on a circuit.

[@WindyCity1992]

@@warewolf21 Not exactly. Z06 & GT3RS have traded wins on Track since 2008. Both great

[@ronretired]

@@warewolf21 Not really. On track the win usually comes down to the driver with these two vehicles.

[@warewolf21]

The GT3 Rs has a time of 6:49.32 on Nürburgring, that's the third time for sport cars. Z06 is way back with 7:13.90. Ofcourse the driver is extremely important at that level.

[@yissibiiyte]

​@@warewolf21you're comparing a brand new GT3 RS to the previous gen Z06. We have no idea what the current Z06 would do

[@chrissmith-rv5ro]

The current M5 competition should have been invited. I have a '20 and the car is an absolute missile, it also brakes like you've thrown two or three anchors out the back.

[@shelbyz88]

My thoughts exactly

[@chillout1109]

There are many cars they could have included. But I'm guessing they couldn't find any suppliers (or private individuals) willing to send them such cars : BMW. Lamborghini. Audi. Ferrari. AMG. Koenigsegg. McLaren. The list goes on.

[@finwaydiddy1977]

@@chillout1109agree. But the list was good enough for me. I didn’t need to see any lambo, or Ferrari or Nissan or BMWs. They wouldn’t have made a difference compared to the Porsche lol. Let’s just be honest. Oops did i forget Mclaren?😂

[@ryancaylor8541]

Why there is no x drive m4 or m3 too….

[@jr1885]

Exactly. This test was pointless without any M cars.

[@CalvinHikes]

This was a well done video.

[@jameswilliams6946]

This video deserves to be listened to with a great audio system

[@frankgustafson8045]

Very impressed by the CT5 Blackwing and Mustang Dark Horse, 2 masterpieces in American engineering!

[@lifted_above]

Slap a supercharger on that 5.0 and it would accelerate better than the rest, as it already brakes better than the rest.

[@frankgustafson8045]

​@@lifted_above It sure would but I gotta say I do love Ford's decision of making it naturally aspirated

[@lifted_above]

@@frankgustafson8045 Yeah, potentially less fuss over the long run for the average owner. The Coyote can take plenty of boost if that's what an owner wants, too.

[@208SledHead]

Couldn't agree more. Ford REALLY shines in the N/A world.@@frankgustafson8045

[@Justin_GFM]

@@lifted_above Fanboys gush over the Porsches as if they’re made for people like us 🤣 I like how American brands actually price their vehicles so that we have an actual chance in owning them, new or used

[@drewmorg.]

It's the Turbo S for me. Close behind would be the Z06. The Turbo S runs made me smile!

[@googleuser3007]

Very nice. I enjoyed this.

[@mftran]

Carlos, you are a gift to the car journalism world. Thank you.

[@ChavaYang]

You and your team are awesome! Keep up the great content.

[@georgenewman5860]

Great video with some amazing cars. If you could have gotten some head to head drag races thrown in it would have been fun to see as well.

[@tylerp4130]

Went to a drag day at a local track and was unfortunate enough to get put up against a 911 Turbo S, and omg that thing was insanely fast. It looked like I was going half throttle against it.

[@Benlux_Edits]

What did u drive?

[@maxwellsmart8730]

Fantastic content from Car & Driver!

[@gtboard]

Great to also bring up super old results great work 🎉

[@tomkruze2749]

I still have that Magazine from the 90s Had a subscription to Motortrend and Car&Driver since 1982 and 1985. All till 2015.

[@user-hb7mb7is2j]

I watch so many car channels my favourite officially gassed BUT this video was amazing loved it!

[@ConstantineJoseph]

Corvette Z06 truly a supercar without the excessive cost. 114k vs 223k gt3 RS vs 216k Turbo S 911. Absolute value for money for ultimate performance levels.

[@johncena-hq1ti]

Yep even optioned out it’s about $150k vs $285k vs $265k. Sorry but I can’t see the 120 grand increase in performance for the turbo s or 135 for the RS. At that point I can get another badass daily like the ct5 bw, m5 comp, e63s, redeye charger, etc…with a couple grand left over for some minor bolt ons. This isn’t even factoring in markup. I’ve seen the z06 on sale for 250-300 and the rs for 450-600k 😳

[@ronretired]

True price wise but, the C8 ZO6, GT3 RS and Turbo S are in different lanes. We own both the C8 ZO6 and Turbo S and the difference on track is staggering. I'm ok with the difference on track because the Turbo S was purchased to handle daily, and cross-country travels through all types of weather without a hiccup. Our C8 ZO6 and C7 ZO6 handle track and daily street duty with the occasional long-distance travel. I don't own but have driven the GT3 not RS version on track and street. On track the vehicle is outstanding. On the street not so much.

[@Rollincoal311]

Sure money wise it’s a good price point for what you’re getting. But my guess is you’ve never been in one, they ride rough as can be, as they should be in a track spec car. But truthfully I’ll just buy a proper track car for that price and runs laps around it. Cool car but useless at everything. Want a road car? Buy one. Want a track car. Buy one. Crossover into both is a compromise in each area. Daily I’d take a Turbo S. track car for that money a cup car or maybe an open wheel alll will absolutely completely destroy that vette. So potato potato. It’s the things people don’t think about or have actually done. Your response is common. So I know you’ve never been in a real track car or spent much time on an actual race track. Not being a dick but it’s fact for most people out there.

[@cleverusernamecl5532]

Z06 are getting close to MSRP, 10k over is not unheard of now and dropping fast.@@johncena-hq1ti

[@sambone8213]

The Corvette looks like a Walmart supercar. They were late to the mid-engine game and the design already looked dated when it was new. Let's not forget that they had to reverse engineer a Ferrari 458 motor to develop their flat plane crank V8. Don't even get me started on the Z06 interior. The Porsche is timeless and built to the highest quality.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

These retrospectives are AMAZING showing how far we have really come!

[@gabrielwilliams5315]

Absolute legend!

[@ytTonyZ]

Nice piece and a bunch of fun. Wish you would have listed all the 0-60 and quarter miles of each, with a list at the end. Cheers

[@rwilson4073]

Good stuff. This is what I love to see. Real-world testing with real-world numbers, comparing cars to each other and not some perfect-conditions number on the internet.

[@shiftsgiggles962]

Bravo! I did 200 in a 992 Turbo S last year. And the C8 Z06/Z07 last weekend. Loved it! Great test and video guys.

[@kurtburkhardt5862]

I admit I'm a Mustang fan. Was impressive it kept up and beat many of these way more expensive cars. Back in the day I did get my relatively stock 86 Fox body to about 150. With 9" disks and drums in the back without any ABS stopping took me almost as long as accellerating. I coasted a long time before even considering using my brakes. Gently slowing from 80 to 65 or so...Any of these cars could not only smoke my old 5.0 LX even after I modified with nitrous. But far outbrake and outhandle it...I look forward to getting a newer Mustang GT and just having some fun with it. No more top speed runs for me.

[@tequila5882]

Great Idea! I own a 2014 Mustang GT (first year of gen. 6) and the price-performance ratio is truly impressiv. Also the Sound of the V8 is one of the best of its class^^

[@650ib]

18:21 $4,000 Aria full carbon fiber helmet spotted, nice! Excellent video and the C8 Z06 sounds the best!

[@snutmeez]

R.I.P DON SCHROEDER. He was a spectacular editor. I was 18 when 0-150-0 was created, those tuned vehicles, even though I could not hear them, I visualized me being the driver 🤣🤣🤣. When I read that Don crashed the RENNTech SLR 7.4, in a high speed test, I felt like I was there too, it hit me super hard, my heart sank. You know, I had about 3 years of Car And Driver mags, and when my mom moved, somehow, they went missing😮 the stack of magazines was 2 feet tall, gone. Sick with it.💯🔥🔥🔥🔥❤🇨🇦

[@raceboy1971]

I totally remember that. It's insane when you think of the speeds they were doing on the tire tech of the time. Schroeder was the man. RIP.

[@alangil40]

@@raceboy1971 I remember reading about that tragic event as well. In fact, it's with that crash in mind that I sometimes worry about KZbin channel drag races where cars are pushing 180mph and the drivers don't have helmets and the cars aren't even that far apart if one lost control.

[@Mandolin1944]

@snutmeez Its actually YOUR fault for leaving them at home for you mother to contend with all those years! 😂🤣😂

[@rickintexas1584]

There are some phenomenal machines in this test.

[@lancegallant3647]

Excellent video super interesting 👍 deff subscribed :-)

[@TommioRS]

Wow, never knew the Lingenfelter C4 ZR-1 was that amazing back in the day! Well thankfully i own a 95 ZR-1, so im half way there.

[@dillonalexander6689]

Nice 👊🏿

[@bluesky-ud9wg]

I remember the original test in 98, the ZR1 had such an amazing acceleration sound it was almost not real. The low throaty tone of the 415 ci of stroked magic, it was an amazing car

[@kaldarleifar]

The Lingenfelter C4 ZR-1 was such a beast, the only car that just barely beat it in the Road & Track High-Speed Shootout was the Mclaren F1.

[@Microjoey02]

The C4 ZR1 will always have a special place in my heart🙂

[@leeboo2521]

As long as it doesn't take my place

[@gene7314]

Original King of the Hill Corvette 💪💪💪

[@niagarafallsnewyork3659]

Lmao​@@leeboo2521

[@gracestingray]

@@gene7314❤️‍🔥🪽

[@overbuiltlimited]

Just bought a 95 ZR1. Sort of a retirement gift. Could have bought anything up to $250K and I chose the ZR1. I honestly have no desire for any new car made today. They are all numb compared to an eighties or ninties car. Sure the new stuff is faster, but the real question everyone should be asking is which is more fun.

[@jonasirw1]

Great video! Would love to have seen a compare of carbon ceramics vs regular brakes

[@AnInterestedObserver]

Very good. Thank you.

[@PupitoManuel]

@CarlosLago is one of the best hosts I have ever seen in C&D. His technical knowledge, driving skills and extraordinary charisma makes for a great package. He should be the NatGeo poster boy for C&D. Cheers!!

[@DPCcars]

Absolutely blown away by the sheer diversity and performance of the cars in this test! It's a golden era for car enthusiasts. From the raw power of the Lucid's insane speed to the surprising agility of the Bentley Continental, each car brings something unique to the table. But here's a thought - with the rise of EVs and their impressive performance metrics, do you think traditional supercars are facing serious competition? #CarLoversDebate 🏎⚡

[@h20dancing18]

people often compare electric cars vs other electric cars. For now, it should be comparing electric cars to their gas equivalents. "for this much money, what does the EV give and what does the gas do?" I would say we are *just* reaching that point. as EV's start to overtake gas cars in value for performance, they will continuously grow as the desire for growling V8's fades with the newer generation.

[@ronretired]

There is much logic to your statement however, we have people that purchase vehicles for a great amount of money for optics vice performance. There is no doubt a Lucid or Tesla can beat most supercars however, I just want a Ferrari sitting in my garage mentality is still at play.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

@@h20dancing18it’s a beautiful time when you can buy what probably is the peak combustion engine cars, and next gen EVs at the same time

[@OldsLSSL67]

EV's have a long ways to go to be considered true performance cars because of their weight. They have incredible acceleration but thats about it. Handling and braking is garbage compared to other performance sedans like the blackwing or m5. Shave 1,000 lbs off them and give them 6 piston caliper brakes and I'll be interested. Until then I'll just stick with my 18 CTS-v.

[@h20dancing18]

@@OldsLSSL67 for most EVs I totally agree. There are plenty of promising (and plenty of not promising) battery chemistries and manufacturing techniques that promise to bring the weight down. Will have to wait and see.

[@CarsLife]

I've rewatched this video many times and it finally hit me that a Mustang went 150-0 mph in 5.7 seconds. Now I'm waiting for the day when a Mustang can do 0-150 mph in 5.7 sec 😊

[@cafe88racer53]

Maybe in space with rockets lol

[@lifted_above]

Cobra Jet?

[@Albatrosi-123]

mustang can goes 1/4 in 6.4 sec 214mph 😉

[@wootwoot5032]

Awesome test

[@spartemex2784]

Love to see the production quality on the car and driver youtube. The graphics were hard to read though - couldn't keep track of where cars were relative to each other performance-wise through the video

[@hydrogensciencefair]

What’s the little circle mean??

[@CubanRider]

Never loved the C8's interior, but that Z06 revving to 8600 rpm is pretty damn special. If money were no object it'd go towards a Turbo S, that car is a masterpiece.

[@maximborodyuk3773]

caliing vaccum cleaner sounding car a masterpiece is exactly why we have EV's lol

[@ssoffshore5111]

I agree with you about the C8 interior, but I hear they are removing that stupid wall of switches for next model year. That might change my opinion...

[@pasmas3217]

@@maximborodyuk3773 i guess respecting the vacuum cleaner for its performance and not its sound, is also why EVs are beating the entire field as well? because a subjective thing such as noise is what matters most in performance test, right?

[@maximborodyuk3773]

@@pasmas3217 beating in what? you know that this test is biased by default towards launc and acceleration? As soon as the turn come, EV's are gone. And I highly doubt that you would launch your car constantly, which is basically the main and only thing in EV and TurboS. Otherwise you wouldn't use 650hp on a street, and you could have way more fun in a proper interesting cars. Calling faceless silent boring overpowered road car masterpiece is not even extension, Idk what it is.

[@ronretired]

We own both and the interior IMHO is fantastic. Our Turbo S shares daily duties with the ZO6. Long distance travels belong to the Turbo S. It is that comfortable.

[@DogAteMyPopcorn]

These are the things that keep me renewing my subscription year after year. Now go have a cold one folks, you deserved it.

[@ahjwille]

Carlos is such a good presenter. He needs more screen time.

[@nl3712]

Agreed

[@BadTomzi]

Would be really cool to know the Plaid time with track package considering it would still be one of the cheapest.

[@ricksmith3045]

It would give a little bit quicker time, but it may not reach the Saphire time.

[@gruppegee]

Reasons I love the 911 Turbo S... It's one of the fastest, best handling, year round usable and amazing cars on the market. Punching far above its weight and one of the greatest 911's on the planet. I miss mines

[@ronretired]

I traded up from a Carrera to Turbo S. Both great cars however, it cannot compete on a track vs our C8 ZO6. I'm ok with that. The Turbo was purchased as a daily and long-distance cruiser. The C8 ZO6 and C7 ZO6 share track duty days.

[@gruppegee]

@@ronretired Tracking the Turbo S doable, I have a friend with one. He's done the whole 3RS suspension setup with the Turbo S dampers. It's a great mix of performance but skews away from the Turbo's general purpose. Previously owned a C6Z with a full LG suspension and JTM stage 4 setup. Capable of wild lap times at NJMP and 9sec quarters @141mph on the same Toyo R888R tires. The Vettes remain some of the best bang for the buck you can get. Kudos on the C7 and C8 Zed's

[@robax]

That C4 Vette.. amazing

[@NiquidFox]

The Turbo S is such an amazing feat of engineering

[@sleep_sounds]

911s are boring

[@lifted_above]

Boringly high performing, boringly consistent, boringly reliable, boringly overachieving, and boringly decent price for all that.

[@sleep_sounds]

@@lifted_above All of that is boring. Consistent and reliable and decent priced, do you hear yourself? 911s have no personality. They are performance cars for people that get their opinions from others.

[@lifted_above]

@@sleep_sounds But then you might complain if the 911 broke down, didn't make good passes but went into limp mode, wasn't as quick in the top end, and brakes lit on fire?

[@sleep_sounds]

​@@lifted_above You are trying to argue what a car isn't and using a complaint I didn't make. That's not an argument. Who are you even talking to? At the end of the day I stand by the statement Porsche 911s are performance cars for people that get their opinions from others.

[@myusernamethisiss]

Wow this really opens a new perspective for me.

[@ms3ben]

The Tesla S Plaid should be tested with the new OEM track pack installed.

[@CarlosLago]

We agree.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

I am glad that they still tested the Plaid and Sapphire, despite the asterisks. It would have been a crime to not include them. However I don't agree that real conclusions about the winners can't be drawn. Because regardless of the conditions, those two EVs would certainly have better 0-150-0 times than all of the others in this pack of contenders. Especially if you added the Track Package to the Plaid.

[@DMCarReviews]

@@deanmcmanis9398 If they are testing "cars" then you can't really include them. They are ipads on wheels or RC's...

[@RxPharmer]

@@DMCarReviews They operate on public roads with designated license plates and actual human drivers behind the wheel. The literal definition is a vehicle moving on wheels. Even better, the definition of an automobile, "a usually four-wheeled automotive vehicle designed for passenger transportation." You boomers are getting more curious by the day.

[@P10634]

Car and Driver would just put another nail in the tire. Can’t have a Plaid embarrassing all the other advertising car brands like that.

[@Moakmeister]

The 911 Turbo S is just the best car ever made. Edit: also dang I’m glad we finally have some guys who use Sport mode instead of Sport Plus because it keeps the wing and splitter retracted for lower drag.

[@ew10j4turbo]

Rear seats are a shit

[@blakealtonen9858]

Yes or the Bentley continental, its fast, handles really well and is one of the most luxurious cars on the market.

[@rapid13]

It just might be. Damn thing impressed the heck outta me for sure!

[@ronretired]

We own both the Turbo S and C8 ZO6. Both vehicles share daily duties however, only the ZO6 is capable of handling track duties. Don't get me wrong our Turbo can be tracked however, not at the level of a ZO6. By the way nice catch concerning the proper use of Sport mode.

[@Sickwitit18]

Most Porsches also sound better in sport vs sport+. You get more burbles and such

[@Black_Beard96]

Great video, i would have loved to see an acr in the battle as well. Just to see how it does

[@carsgunsandguitars]

The C4 Lingenfelter is still impressive, 30 years later. I used to dream of that car daily!

[@gregst.a4144]

As easy as it seemed for the TS to reach 200, I would be sweating profusely watching how quickly the turf at the end of the runway was approaching and the reaper along with it!

[@MravacKid]

The "I'll get to 200 even if I have to brake into the trees" school of thought :)

[@EdD-ym6le]

That was a nice 911 Turbo , dk green w/ dk burgundy interior . Pretty sweet ride 👍

[@WindyCity1992]

Z06 type of guy. However yes Turbo S is a cool car Every car here was pretty dope

[@pigeonpoo1823]

Superman's company car is definitely a 911 Turbo S

[@85CEKR]

I still remember that issue, it was my favorite

[@robotwonder8590]

The CT5 V is so underrated. Sounded amazing 🫡🫡

[@jmmch3358]

I wonder how the Shelby GT500, Camaro ZL1, Challenger SRT Demon, Porsche Taycan, Corvette E-Ray, Viper ACR, and Porsche GT2RS would have come out on this test.

[@CarlosLago]

Us too.

[@WindyCity1992]

ACR & GT2RS are tied in the Braking test. They both set The fastest 0-100-0 times

[@dnice362]

Gt2rs would have walked this test

[@bonusb2924]

Agreed on the ZL1, especially considering the price point

[@ChR0nos_7734]

@@dnice362 how? it's RWD version of Turbo S with big wing

[@themidnighttavern6784]

Geez, the next gt500 and even moreso with the GTD are gonna be insane. The s650 is incredible.

[@matthewkraemer3265]

Wow. My first base, Wurtsmith AFB. God, I hated Oscoda! I was so glad when it closed and I got orders to Washington!

[@daynevickers1079]

You guys have the best job in the WORLD! Excuse me now, I have to clean up my slobber.

[@spdcrzy]

It took the same amount of distance (about 600 feet) to stop from 200-150 that it did to stop from 150-0 for the 911 Turbo S, but HALF the time (2.6-2.7s vs 5.4s). No fade WHATSOEVER. Those are some DAMN good brakes.

[@dcarden3031]

Weird I noticed

[@RANDsreviews]

Thanks for the 0-150! Loved it! So different than the rest. 150 in an insane speed. Maybe next episode 0-175? LOL!

[@GTOGregory]

I appreciated the higher 150 MPH speed. On my morning drive to work it's not uncommon to hit 95 MPH in my Heavy Duty truck.

[@DortonFarb]

The 992 Turbo S is incredibly fast, and incredibly easy to drive fast. And it won this contest with normal summer tires, not Cup 2 ot Trofeo R track day tires.

[@Scbm6492]

Unfortunately I believe we've already seen, thanks to Ms Hartford's efforts, the limitations of the dual clutch gearbox on the C8 prevent that platform from accepting high power modifications.

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

'It's highly unlikely that an internal combustion car could come out on top, ever again.' Yes, for what they lack in character, they more than make up for in sheer speed... and there really is something delightful about the way a good high performance EV effortlessly accelerates. You have to experience it to understand what I mean.

[@gnoxycat]

Traded my Porsche GT3 for a Model S. Zero regrets. The best canyon car I have ever owned. That exit speed is addicting!

[@wbwayne8887]

​​@@gnoxycat A Tesla? 😂

[@gnoxycat]

@@wbwayne8887 Real car guys drive EVs.

[@maximborodyuk3773]

@@gnoxycat that's simply because you can't drive other than smashing accelerator

[@gnoxycat]

@@maximborodyuk3773 Maybe, but its addicting and I test drove a new Porsche a few weeks back and its weak sauce. Tesla will be getting another $100k+ from me soon as there is nothing else that can match it.

[@MikeYeary]

As a Dark Horse owner, I can attest to that braking power. First time I hit them, I felt like the skin on my face was going to rip off. 😅 It took a little getting used to.

[@FromInfinityTV]

I literally remember buying that first Car & Driver 0-150-0 magazine

[@spdwickedwhips]

Amazing time and so well organized thank you 🙏🏼 ERN

[@SilversurferGT]

Love how the Turbo S can consecutively run 200+ mph all day and still pick up groceries and drive it home at the end of the day.

[@haveaseatplease]

Also in unrestricted top speed the Lucid Air is king of kings, with an independently verified 235 mph (376 km/h).

[@sprockkets]

Rimac Nevera has entered the chat....

[@georgyzhukov6409]

for 3 times the price of a plaid with same speed lol

[@lancegallant3647]

just started the video ill deff take the gt3 rs to go along side the b7 rs4 in the driveway 100% thanks for video :-) now ill watch

[@HamzaCheema-ir5bn]

Very impressed with the ct5 v blackwing and the z06

[@just.for.the.downshifts]

"Don't think an internal combustion engine can ever come out on top again." Sounds ominously true.

[@mikeriv60]

Should have included a 427 Cobra just for the heck of it to see how it stacks up.

[@GTOGregory]

The Cobra is the one I thought of when I saw the title of this test. 0-100-0

[@givingmyalltolife686]

Mentally sharp coach whether he’s the future or not. Seems like a Good man..

[@doughboi007]

I am obsessed with the Z06. I'm so glad it's getting the recognition and hype.