2024 Tesla Model Y Review | The Best Still Has Some Flaws

[@TheLobo91]

My main gripe is no rear collision warning system when you are backing up. That should be standard by now. I got 2 and both of them don't offer this. You would think with all those cameras it would tell me there was a car coming when backing up. Big fail there.

[@abc123fhdi]

should also have auto emergency braking while backing up, and cross traffic warning.

[@pacaguy]

Needs lidar

[@timelesswatch877]

Sadly it's standard in Toyota

[@Cubik07]

Agreed. I actually sold my Skoda Superb 2019, which had this backing up collision warning (and would also apply breaks if necessary) and getting a new MY which doesn't do that 😅

[@cjdunne1713]

Great video Ryan. I’m a proud owner of a 22 MY W/W. I’ve got 58k miles with no issues. Absolutely the best car I’ve ever owned. And I use FSD daily to supplement my driving experience

[@RyanShawtech]

That is awesome!

[@billybobbob3003]

@@RyanShawtech This cars a hunk of junk compared to 2014 LX CRV FWD.

[@gjhripto]

Just finished a cross-country road trip (DE to NV and back again) in my 2023 Y Performance. I can't say enough good things about it!

[@leet0809]

Just picked up '24 MYLR W/W after a month of waiting. Driving experience is great. FSD is just incredible. The sound system is fine. One-pedal driving or Regen brake was definitely something I had to get used to. Regen brake is pretty aggressive. Rear view through rear window is a little hard. The car is quiet, and is heavy. The steering wheel is hard. It feels like BMW. Acceleration is great. Build-Quality is still lagging. Door misalignment is just terrible. A/C is fine.

[@yenlard6683]

Agree with all of this for my 2024 MY. I would add that I had an annoying whistling noise coming from the driver side rear view mirror that took some sleuthing work on my part to figure out.

[@minhta7540]

Still waiting after 1 month. Annoying text everyday that the delivery is changed to tomorrow. No Vin number.☹️

[@abc123fhdi]

should come with sun shade

[@Iamwrongbut]

@@yenlard6683I have a whistling noise too that’s is driving me crazy. How did you fix it!?

[@yenlard6683]

@@Iamwrongbut put some blue painters tape on the triangle plastic seam where it meets the window. I knew something was wrong there because I was able to push it in. I was not able to do this on the passenger’s side mirror. I took it to Tesla service and they put some silicon and the noise was gone. I’m assuming that your issue might be similar to mine. Put the tape and then take it for a ride.

[@KomarBrolan]

I own an early build 2022 Model Y and really can’t complain about ride quality. I have the 19 inch Gemini wheels and air them down to 38 psi.

[@NewyorkRican2191]

I am eagerly anticipating picking up my 2024 Model Y Long Range today! The dealership has kindly included 20-inch wheels and offered a $2,000 discount as it is a demonstration model with only 52 miles driven. While I had initially hoped for the refreshed version, the absence of stalks proved to be a significant deterrent for me.

[@mysimon2003]

Good luck! I bought mine last March and regretted every day!

[@chiplangowski3298]

When I bought my 2023 Model Y Long Range, I intentionally ordered one with the 19" wheels for the ride quality. I test drove a Performance and the Long Range with both the 19" and 20" wheels. The Performance model was a hard "No" due to the punishing ride quality. The 20" wheels also degraded the ride significantly over the 19"-ers. That said, I constantly second guess myself over not getting the the 20" Induction wheels just because the wheels look so much better than the Gemini wheels and the hub caps.

[@muskepticsometimes9133]

Get 19 inch wheels. More range, better ride, cheaper tires less prone t oil damage

[@joshknox2950]

If u don’t mind me asking. What was your out the door price on it?

[@syrupinacan3511]

You posted this comment about three months ago. How has your experience been?

[@ramenandgyoza702]

Our 2024 MY doesnt have any rattle so far. 🙏 it continues that way

[@williambodine4105]

Hi Ryan, Another useful intro to the Model Y. I bought a 2021 in Dec 20 and my experience mirrors your"s. I later test drove a late 2022 with the comfort suspension and was impressed enough to buy a 2023. It is an improvement over the original, but it is still too bumpy (and road-noisy). In general I have has very few software issues; in this respect is it more like a tech product than a vehicle. My car is white with a white interior and I live in Palm Springs, so I did add a sunroof cover that makes a huge difference, both for heat reduction and sound insulation (the cargo cover helps there as well.) My number one daily complaint is the useless door stops. The doors are heavy and don't want to stay open as you leave the car. It's a constant battle.

[@brunolamas7608]

Got my model Y last week during the 0.99% sale and couldn't love it more! The rear view is the only downside but totally something you can get used to. Mats and trunk cover were definitely needed, I'm a drummer too and would totally ruin the carpet of the trunk if I was loading cases all the time. Thank you for all the tips!

[@BobbieGWhiz]

Congratulations! I’m not a fan of the rearview. Hardly anybody comments on that. I decided to go with the 2023 model 3 instead because of that as well as the price savings I’m very happy as well.

[@RyanShawtech]

Great Drummer car. Mats are definitely a necessity.

[@DBrownOnThe1]

@@RyanShawtech I'm a drummer as well. Can you fit your bass drum and floor tom in the trunk without folding the seats down?

[@navispeed1398]

I just bought a month ago a MYLR DM, it’s simply the best vehicle I have ever had. It’s a completely different experience. It finally feels like the future. Thanks for the spot on review.

[@kerr1515]

Ryan you do a nice job. Just got a Y. My 3rd Tesla. I also will add. The FSD is far better than I ever thought. I took it on the ultimate test and it was flawless. PHL to Long Island. Not a tougher driving test in the USA. I now know what Elon means when he says FSD is 100 times smarter and safer than any human could ever be. Try it ASAP. I was blown away. The only thing it couldn’t do was navigate through a NYC Toll Plaza.

[@mikev4089]

You drove from the Philippines to Long Island? How did you do that and how long did it take?

[@georgegoodwin9722]

Also, most of the commands can be accessed by voice commands

[@The_DuMont_Network]

Voice commands for time? Direction, Temp, Accel\Regen, and more indications are not available with voice commands/prompts. And all prompts are beeps and boops, not voice. But we have plenty of stupid games.

[@MJ-fh8fw]

Getting 2024 Y this Friday. I did receive a notification to except changes of the ultra sonic sensors are being removed and the bigger cameras that the refreshed model 3 has will be replacing the sensors. I found this interesting. The model Y I test drove still had all the circles in the front and back bumpers.

[@MarcelSmith420]

I was going to wait to get the MY until 2025 but Tesla is currently offering 1.99% APR for qualifying customers for the MY so I got one. I love it! Some of the negatives you mention are kind of subjective to each user, for instance the frunk not being powered is totally fine with me and I doubt I’ll be using it as much as I do the trunk anyways. Coming from a 2012 Honda and 2014 Hyundai, the 2024 MY is incredible! The ride is smooth, and it’s super quiet inside.

[@abc123fhdi]

The 7 seater can be folded down and have a flat trunk space so it has the same utility as the 5 seater, but you have the extra seats for smaller people or children whenever needed.

[@thefilmpoets]

Set that model Y sound system sub to +4 to make your music stomp stomp.

[@frankcoffey]

We are all EV now but I remember taking my wife's old car to fill it up with gas for her and I burned some of the gas just getting to the station and back. With the Tesla cars we just plug them in. Also, leaving the AC on in Texas when you are out shopping or dining is fantastic. No more hoping the remote start works and remembering to do it and burning extra gas cooling down the car.

[@cynicwithin11]

I had the same rattle. It's the air conditioner direction head. It has little teeth and some have broken off. Took service less than 1 hour to fix.

[@dreamer9886]

I think the cars are nice but how much more do you pay to repair if you have a wreck or hit a 🦌?

[@kyledudley7978]

the issues you had , did you contact tesla, was it covered under warrenty?

[@johnnguyen8251]

how has the white leather holding up. i have 3 kids and am torn between black or white

[@raheeb1]

2024 MYP Stealth Grey (great color!) on white w/FSD. Plan to keep it a while … for now I have 10k free SC miles too.

[@TeslaOutage]

3 months owner here. MYLR and no complaints. Except for my wife when I floor it 😂

[@Roll_the_Bones]

So, just a non-video-specific thought, that might save Tesla owners the 18 mths of irritation & confusion, that I experienced - with playback of music files... The tesla software cannot resolve a single drive split into two sections. Assuming you are using an SSD of any sort (not USB-stick drive), mostly, you will have attempted to partition two sections into the drive, one for Teslacam, one for Music. And then you might find the Music files don't play properly / the Teslacam recordings are jumpy and poor resolution / music files start, then glitch /etc etc. You need TWO separate drives, one for each media type. Use a simple USB wired hub on a short line, then add your SSD's to that. Or an SSD for Teslacam, and USB stick for music. It works.

[@daviddeveloper44]

Good video. Owners: what are your expenses buying it, updating it, and monthly costs

[@ahsunc]

Just bought it

[@32phoenixx]

Just farted.

[@lastlion65]

@@32phoenixx Trool

[@dajo2824]

Does the crossover (SUV) feel like a traditional SUV??riding higher than the sedans in the mkt.

[@TheRealLaughingGravy]

Ryan, you used to do a lot more reviews of non-Tesla EVs. I'd like to see your review of the Chevy Equinox EV.

[@KimMaiden]

Ryan is an amazing drummer. Great band videos!

[@RyanShawtech]

Thanks Kim

[@ejr1953]

My 2024 Model Y Long Range had none of the fit and finish, quality issues I've read elsewhere, it's been a great car! Once I got used to driving an EV, I really enjoy the car; the best car I've ever owned (in over 50 years of buying them).

[@lylecameron5578]

Same for me

[@Mike-jq9jo]

@@lylecameron5578same for me.

[@meeraenan2285]

Hi Ryan, how about your experience with the loud noise on road compared with other SUV vehicles?

[@RyanShawtech]

Road noise isn't a problem. It's actually less loud with no engine noise.

[@SB-bu5fq]

Talk about the registration....1000$ I did not like that. Didn't know about it... I feel like all my gas savings went out the window...

[@johnwagner9257]

I have an early 2020 MYP, about ready to upgrade but still awaiting some of the updates the 3 got. Mainly the ventilated seats!, but slightly improved range on the Y Performance would be nice. The longer it takes the more likely I'll opt for something else (I do have a reservation for an Rivian R2).

[@francoisbouchard9488]

I have the almost same model Y as you. 2022 Model Y, white, but black interior. Best. Car. Ever. And that's a close second to my M3, which my kids use. After paying $8K for FSD back in 2019-ish on a model 3, and the kids totaling the car, I swore I would never pay for FSD again. But now I've subscribed to FSD for $100 per month, and very satisfied. Would even be prepared to pay a bit more, just don't tell Elon ;-)

[@colbyconner3206]

Got a 2024 RWD recently and it’s pretty good overall. Biggest complaints are that FSD is a joke and the AC struggles with the heat load in Phoenix. Burn through a good 10-15% a day for preconditioning. Had a Kia EV6 that didn’t require nearly as much energy to cool. Will soon see how much tint on the front windows help.

[@colbyconner3206]

The biggest pros are chargers that actually exist, CCS vs NACS is night and day, and the software features outside of FSD actually work compared to the eGMP cars.

[@edwardhackett-jones8126]

And yet, the majority of discussion we see about FSD is that it’s brilliant. I don’t get to experience it being outside North America, but the videos put out by loads of people are showing increasingly intervention free drives. Not perfect yet, but no one says it is.

[@dtallornothing]

The improvements in the new M3 in terms of road noise and suspension are just too good, hard to move to a Y without them.

[@alirezatyty]

I have the new model 3 highland. But i sure miss more space. So a model Y with highland specs and more would be so great

[@geoffreyfinch9199]

my new Model Y ER just put on an impromptu light & sound show featuring deep rumbles and the headlights flashing TESLA on the garage wall! What was that !?

[@rahmanmhate9183]

Where did you get the Tesla Toy car from??

[@williamsloggy5144]

Regarding FSD for freeway driving.. My experience is most traffic speed is above the limits. I would expect the FSD would not go above those limits and that's a problem if it makes your car the slowest on the freeway. However, it makes a lot more sense for city or urban driving. Boomers will find it compelling.

[@jerrycampion]

Simply the Best!

[@photofusionart]

Is the model Y long range RWD has an LFP battery? Can u charge to 100 all the time?

[@crypto_rick5547]

I picked up my 24MY RWD 2 days ago. First Tesla, first EV.

[@RyanShawtech]

Congratulations!

[@natesj6105]

What I can't figure out.....thanks for the video by the way, always good. ....is I pay for Spotify but Tesla wants me to pay again or double to sign into my Spotify to play it THROUGH my car. Not cool. Or am I missing something here?

[@larzlarz1140]

Can you do an hour long drive hands free at 80 mph, or does it restrict you to the speed limit? I am happy with autopilot, because it lets me do 20 mph over the speed limit, but have never tried FSD.

[@jmp622]

I am very happy with Y performance. I am looking forward to upcoming Y to add to my garage.

[@skyrimbzz5106]

How much is it to fully charge?

[@kelvinsiuYT]

Comparing my old 2021 toyota corolla. My new MYLR RWD is just fenomenal. I love everything that it has and all it's features

[@BobbieGWhiz]

Phenomenal.

[@georgegoodwin9722]

And auto parking works perfectly, does a better job than I can ever do.

[@hwillia204]

My 2022 Model Y with 55,000 no issues!

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

I am happy with the screen, except for navigation. Navigation is so bad, I regularly avoid it and use my phone instead. Navigation is sooo bad.

[@jouan1]

I just leased a 2020 MYLR a couple weeks ago and absolutely love this car. However, I did not get a rear cargo cover. Frankly, I didn’t even think of it while I was inspecting the vehicle are they still included?

[@red.calgary]

Is it driverless??

[@kayrealist9793]

Bought the 2024 MYLR AWD. Ended up spending over $800 in accessories. lol

[@daviddeveloper44]

What are best ones? Worst ones?

[@MYWORKINFO2012]

I love my Model Y but I wish in the app I could open ea individual door or have car do facial recognition and just unlock the door I am at. At this time in order to open any door I have to open drivers door and hold button down then go open the door I want. I don’t want to set it to unlock all the doors all the time because I just don’t want that option when I am by myself.

[@goofy_xf6223]

Ngl, I’ve done ALOT of hating on EVs over the last few months but I rented a model y and ended up secretly liking it. Also realized that it’s just a car with a different source power. So I became open minded. I daily drive a muscle car everyday and have considered an EV now because after looking into it the savings on fuel can’t be beat. But I guess im going to the dark side and can’t wait. I do have a question for anyone who currently owns a tesla. Has anyone boughten the power wall and charger and moved? If you did, did touch the equipment with you and how much was it to relocate that stuff?

[@danieleb2945]

We have 2 2018 M3LR and only use the mobile charger to keep them charged with a 30 and 50 amp adapter. No need to get the wall charger. We both drive 50 and 75 miles to work one way and have no trouble with keeping charged (unless we forget to plug it in 😂)

[@timelesswatch877]

whats the point of having a glass roof if you cant open it?

[@Roll_the_Bones]

It provides a light, airy interior. And I like to look up at the sky (not so much when driving) to look at aircraft, UFOs, Superman, etc.

[@lastlion65]

My only issue is my Y will not stay in the 5 miles over in Auto Pilot. If I go through a slower speed zone like a 45 mile in a 55 it will only go 50 mph .. It stays there or I drive off the highway, then come back on to reset it. Even in high zones and always in rural areas.. Why AWD its RWD ??????

[@jaymikeyyy1]

A powered frunk is another thing that can break after warranty and cost money.

[@hansraub8663]

I'm waiting for the Refresh !

[@lastlion65]

why not, especially when it might be my last car 81

[@lylecameron5578]

I, too, am 81 years old but decided not to wait for the upgrade that: 1) may not come in 2025 (never know with Tesla) and 2 If they do the upgrade, I'm guessing no special deals (other than Fed $7500) for awhile. PS Just love this vehicle; I purchased the 2024 Model Y AWD in March, 2024 and have zero issues thus far. I do agree with the limited view through rear window but, as others have pointed out, you get used to that very fast.

[@timhardman4764]

@@lastlion65 I'm 68 and would like it to be my last car also. For that reason, I think I'll wait a few more years....let the batteries get a little better, the FSD a little better, the hardware versions a little higher and hopefully...in the middle or near the end of this 4 yr election cycle...we still have the robust Inflation Reduction Act in tact with the tax incentives incentives for electric vehicles. I'd probably buy now, before the election and ahead of Juniper if I was on a "2 more cars" plan. Even delaying my purchase for another 3 years with the advancements that delay brings may not be enough to keep me out of the 2 more cars plan. This is because I expect I will NEED full functioning FSD in 10 to 15 yrs and I have concerns about the Hardware Level in a 2027 Tesla I buy being able to run the 2040 version of FSD. I hope they design the ability for easy Hardware upgrades into these vehicles over the next few years.

[@seitaneddy]

Hey Ryan!! (Hopefully you read my comment) do you have any ideas on how to disable the “Asleep” feature from one of the latest updates? When my model 3 is “asleep”, I can’t access it remotely… it’s driving me insane! Thank you!! 😊 Great videos, BTW!

[@tcg2ki]

what auto manufacturer does not have flaws?

[@toadamine]

those back seats definitely dont fold flat... they fold.... but far from flat... lol... they fold to about a 20 degree angle...

[@dougmanck4149]

Does it have AM, FM and Sirius XM? Those are the only ones I listen to. Rear cross traffic alert would also be a required feature especially with that poor rear visibility. Camera views just don't cut it.

[@tinycmo]

It does have am and fm. I use the fm at the driven and sit with folding chair in front and enjoy the external speakers. Big fun

[@tinycmo]

Notnsure about sirus

[@reidsch]

No Sirius

[@32phoenixx]

I've been wondering about the satellite radio as well. I guess with Bluetooth connectivity, we could use the app on the phone. 🤔

[@yenlard6683]

You can listen to Sirius on your phone and run it through car’s Bluetooth

[@bensonchung]

Thought this video was reviewing 2024 version of the Model Y.

[@JakeAntelis]

Great video, and points for the drummer storage

[@RyanShawtech]

🥁 🚗

[@JP-sw5ho]

I wish model y had real blind spot monitors. It's my number one hardware request.

[@kylerobinson7572]

Ryan, Any rumors on when the foundation Cybertruck will ship with the gray interior and all season tires? I switched my order the day they announced the option. Actually the same day I received my VIN :-( and had to give up my VIN to someone else.

[@the1youknew]

Here’s a tube of moisturizer for $10. Yes, it has moisturizer in it and comes with a pump for easy dispensing. What.. you want to pump two portions at once? That’ll be $2 more please.

[@brendan1]

Would love to replace my Model 3 with a Model Y. But maps is not that good IMHO. Apple Maps is way better. Tesla maps consistently mispronounces a street near my house. It's literally misspelled on screen so it pronounces it wrong. I tried sending feedback a couple times, but it never got updated. Also, I drive down a road that was re-built and moved over about 50 feet about a year ago and Tesla maps keeps telling me to turn on the road even though it's straight and there's no place to turn. Apple Maps updated as it was being re-built and was fully updated many months ago.

[@1486230]

Tesla is using google maps.

[@PewteyArthur]

Does Auto Park require a subscription to FSD?

[@bt4b4]

Yes

[@lastlion65]

@@bt4b4 Sucks ...Color $1000, Hitch $1000, Power boost $2000. FSD 99 a month. Insurance 60% higher, Gas or registration state tax 500 Yr more. KW .25 no off peek time But Ill drive nothing else

[@Corum-x3s]

Top G

[@patrickhornacek8593]

Love ours! 👍

[@Duneboy13]

I’ve been going back and forth between buying a new 24 model y RWD or a used 17/18 model x. Any opinions in either direction? (I am aware of the insurance differences)

[@Duneboy13]

And while I’m also willing to wait and save til the refresh comes out I’m pretty worried about the tax exemption being lost or the refresh price jumping a lot, I believe the model 3 jumped up $1000 which isn’t a big deal

[@teslamr7333]

One guy I knew that had the Model X, had many issues that Tesla couldn’t even fix. You also don’t know how the previous owner charged the car which can affect the battery. If you want less headaches I would go with the Model Y.

[@therealmixfamily]

Ngl I really love my model Y performance lol

[@mikev4089]

You get rattles with every car. I constantly beep the horn, so I hardly ever hear them anyway.

[@The_DuMont_Network]

The UI is still crappy in several ways... Grey text on white background. Terrible. Especially for those of us oldsters who need better contrast. Tesla has refused to even acknowledge this complaint The Accel/Regen indicator is now nearly invisible, while the real estate where it was is unused. WHY did they change this? Swivel/tilt of the screen to minimize glare under differing conditions. A simple factory build, a fairly involved and expensive aftermarket mod. Why no option to make blind spot view when turn signals are on be full screen for better visibility? Time of Day clock still tiny and near invisible. Door lock/unlock touch point near invisible. Compass tiny and near invisible. But we have all the silly useless games, no way to create custom hot spots for favorite functions, and inability to listen to the browser while driving. I don't want to watch the browser when driving of course, but there are KZbin sites to which I would like to listen. I have purchased three Model 3s since 2020 and am Jonesing for an S. With all its warts, the Tesla is still the one car which meets my needs and desires. But I would really like for Tesla to LISTEN to suggestions and complaints.

[@tinycmo]

You have some very valid points

[@edwardhackett-jones8126]

If you’re struggling with your vision, are you sure you should be driving?

[@snowkie]

@@edwardhackett-jones8126Not a very insightful comment. There’s a difference between myopia and hyperopia. He can likely see the road well and drive effectively (perhaps with glasses or contacts). Google if you don’t understand.

[@lylecameron5578]

I'm not struggling with my vision but do absolutely agree that the screen should show a lot of items LARGER as noted above, e.g. temperature, time, speed limit. Also would love the streets to be named on nav screen without having to zoom in. Could be accomplished easily with firmware update.

[@The_DuMont_Network]

@edwardhackett-jones8126 Not struggling with vision. We are in an area normally bright clear sunshine. Glare on screen, tiny font size, poor contrast a visibility issue even for my teenager with fine vision.

[@regi0317]

Always funny to me when guys post that they bought a car for the best deal ever - because of their expert negotiation skills of course. Who cares? You got a vehicle and nobody’s gonna know what your payment is unless you provide a statement of account, which you probably won’t because you probably didn’t get it for the best deal ever. IJS

[@jimmieyoung4865]

Auto Park is fun - whips the wheel around to BACK the car into parking slots faster than you ever could.

[@cerdafiedDeveloper]

Only thing I’d complain is the range kinda sucks. And charging performance is average at best

[@pacaguy]

Waiting to see if juniper has stalks. That's a deal breaker for me. I see it as a safety issue.

[@JodyMay05]

Same

[@TeslaTravelsandStops]

Great vehicle. Love my 2023. Would love to see a better blind spot monitor and cross traffic alert

[@nirajpatil3061]

Why did you delete video?

[@nejc3]

waiting for the Juniper

[@prestontucker1687]

It's the plaid badge that throws people off.

[@DioDiablo702]

Doing a car review at 20k miles in 2 years? Seems a big early to do a review.

[@EagleWolfSparrow]

Should we wait for 2025 New interior one lol

[@S3XY-00]

Poor Americans .. my Shanghai built model y is near perfection No rattles Paint is heaps better Perfect panel gaps like even better than some Germans.. And the door shuts perfectly.

[@DerekDavis213]

When will Teslas overcome all these flaws, and when will FSD be solid and reliable. Something you can trust. Maybe in 2026 or 2027?

[@PH-md8xp]

I love my BMW X3, not sure why I would ever want to switch to a Y.

[@scoob9735]

why even comment this. useless comment

[@PH-md8xp]

@ Your comment is more useless. My comment was at least related to the topic.

[@scoob9735]

@@PH-md8xp you watched a video about a car, and said “i don’t want this car”

[@PH-md8xp]

@@scoob9735 Yes, and I offered a reason that is important to me as an owner of a BMW x3. Finally, you’re understanding. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@MichaelFrank-z3y]

Luettgen Rapid

[@GeoffreyJacqueline-i6r]

Chris Alley

[@nlmbtizzy6025]

This is not a 2024 version

[@ReedJoy-h5x]

Jessy Extensions

[@ConanLennon-n6r]

Chet Highway

[@DoddBrady-b8o]

Mertz Dam

[@KeynesWilmott-k6t]

Adeline Forges

[@813_racing3]

Is all good I bought a 2022 gla 45 Amg Mercedes Benz and brakes squill since it came out the lot with 7 miles on it and the plastic rattle like mofo to brand new car the car now days ain’t build like back then Tesla has a pretty good lease deal for 500 a month can drive one brand new I was making 1200 dollars on that Benz I got rid off gave me to many t problems

[@Timbucktoo32]

I've never had a rattle

[@DevonDonahoe-d6g]

Miller Wells