Long time Toyota buyer here with a 2015 Tundra and 2020 4runner. Was super excited about the 2024 Tacoma until I drove the TRD Offroad and Ranger Raptor. RR is the better driving experience.
@オルフェーヴルの夫Ай бұрын
@@vexingjester8031 reddit speak is cringe.
@BrawndoQC23 күн бұрын
@@オルフェーヴルの夫 Reddit speak?
@KentWood-OptimizeUTennis22 күн бұрын
but no Ford will last as long as a Toyota...my 1998 Tacoma with 400K miles will outlast a brand new Raptor
@marklihsu18 күн бұрын
@@KentWood-OptimizeUTennisUsed to be the case not so much with the new turbos. Just look at all the issues already
@richardtumarae35014 күн бұрын
4 Rangers, x2 XLT, Sports, Wildtrack, had a Toyota but found travel in comfort over 60 kilometers of metal roads day in day out Ranger better class. Jump in turn her over knowing you will arrive at meetings 2hrs later 'good to go'
@Dirtbikes4life56Ай бұрын
"if you skip leg day you will fit in the back of the tacoma" had me laughing
@rafapenson21 күн бұрын
That's have any sense.. you should be a kid to fit the back seat..
@infidel900rrАй бұрын
Raptor > Taco, no contest.
@SKAR3EАй бұрын
Unless you love driving manual
@joreldavis4069Ай бұрын
Unless you want all the things offered in the Taco that they don't offer on the Raptor.
@YerBoyTroyАй бұрын
I'd still take the taco. Just a more complete package overall and better daily driver. Except for the rear seats, that's a huge disadvantage
@dawsongranger4940Ай бұрын
@@SKAR3EUnless you love driving a glass manual that breaks if you shift from 5th to 3rd. (Toyota had to tune their engine 10 horsepower less because those extra 10 horses were breaking their manuals)
@dawsongranger4940Ай бұрын
@@YerBoyTroySo it’s not a better daily then if it doesn’t have usable rear seats? It’s also a much more cramped interior with worse visibility and arguably worse comfort. Gets about the same mpg as a 450 horsepower twin turbo v6 and sounds like garbage
@arghoneАй бұрын
Raptor should have been in Baja mode, for the anti-lag alone. If you're comparing how good two vehicles are at a thing, then put each one in their "best" settings available. Front camera also stays on in Baja. I personally think the TRD looks better but the RR does everything better, love mine.
@BuilderBob2.0Ай бұрын
In every video featuring these tow trucks, the outcome is always the same: the Ranger Raptor comes out on top, leaving $10,000 more in your pocket! I have the tune for my Raptor as well, and it truly makes a significant difference in the truck’s performance.!
@aboutface102Ай бұрын
28:00 the Taco sound is drowned out by the Raptor sound haha
@atg1338Ай бұрын
Blah blah blah.... 2 horrible sounding toys
@traviswhАй бұрын
@@atg1338 Horrible sounding versus what? Because ThEy’Re NoT V8s?
@ThomasR-s5g5 күн бұрын
The Ranger Raptor is tuned not stock like the Tacoma that's how unfair this comparison was.
@atg13385 күн бұрын
@ThomasR-s5g 😢😢
@jeepedjeep9554Ай бұрын
I have a RR and it is actually the GT3 on dirt. It's fun, and also very comfortable with pretty great speed.
@mikebromelow8514Ай бұрын
The Tacoma looks like you're driving around inside a Stormtrooper helmet....
@jmt8706officialАй бұрын
😆
@EastsidegeorgiaboyАй бұрын
Trd pro should've been made as an access cab/ xtracab because, with the stupid isodynamic seats, you cant fit anyone behind you. It's an over glorified 2 seater. You should be able to get an xtracab/access cab with longbed for the trd pro, with double cab short bed as an option.
@mikes.4136Ай бұрын
You’re exactly right! Unfortunately, the Xtracab is only available in SR and SR5 trim, and no locker, or anything approaching the TRD Pro, in terms of suspension.
@EastsidegeorgiaboyАй бұрын
@@mikes.4136 seems like Toyota is dropping the ball.
@justsayin360014 күн бұрын
If Toyota would have done something about the reduced leg room, I agree it's just a two seater. Another FAIL.
@baseballgeek6899Ай бұрын
Raptor, all day
@DP-jajaАй бұрын
The Ranger wins from sound alone!!!
@dmaddcАй бұрын
Both amazing off-roaders, but the Ford sounds soooo much better. This is the best POV comparison I’ve seen because you aren’t babying these monsters. Nicely done and thanks for the ride.
@atg1338Ай бұрын
It's a v6 and they both sound horrible
@SchwitiАй бұрын
@@atg1338Interesting take... Is there a truck in this class that doesn't sound horrible?
@jerryrichards9107Ай бұрын
@@Schwiti You'd have to travel back to 2011 and find a v8 dakota lol
@SchwitiАй бұрын
@@jerryrichards9107 lol exactly... I mean if someone is expecting any truck in this class to sound like a proper v8 then they're very misguided
@jakejoebobАй бұрын
I hope the Raptors coolness will make Toyota drop the Tundra's powertrain into the Taco for competition's sake, great video Topher :)
@1FiftyOverlandАй бұрын
I doubt it would fit. The 3.0l ecobeast architecture in the raptor is super compact.
@jakejoebobАй бұрын
@@1FiftyOverland It fits, Toyota shoved it in a concept vehicle. Looked like the UZ looked in the 4th gen 4runner, a little snug but right at home.
@1FiftyOverlandАй бұрын
@@jakejoebob a concept veh.
@marklihsu18 күн бұрын
Then they will have to recall another few hundred thousand engines 😂
@spathotanАй бұрын
Just my opinion but I think Toyota dropped the ball with this gen Tacoma, just seems and feels like a total dud. And of course you've always got the prices with Toyotas.
@blasterracer100Ай бұрын
I've been watching all of your ranger raptor content to a T. Not because I want a ranger raptor, but because I want an rho and there's no rho content available yet! Thankfully this is filling the void, so thank you.
@TKO593Ай бұрын
Im loving the performance of the RR. The price of the Tacoma was the big deciding factor, but now I have the tune on the RR and it is such a fun truck to drive.
@JesseRainbow76Ай бұрын
You need to compare your raptor to the Colorado ZR2 AEV edition.
@slumy8195Ай бұрын
Raptor is a monster truck. If you got the money idk why you would bother buying anything else in the mid size segment
@radamesortiz449918 күн бұрын
I test drove both and I decided to go with the Tacoma. I don’t think that the Tacoma is better than the Raptor, I just liked the Taco a little more.
@joshr961Ай бұрын
ranger raptor > tacoma. Less money. front and rear lockers. better suspension. way better power train without the hybrid crap. gas mileage relatively the same. back seat in the ranger way bigger.
@justsayin360014 күн бұрын
And more reliable according to Consumer Reports.
@joshr96114 күн бұрын
@ wouldn’t doubt it. I will say. My 3rd gen na v6 Tacoma will probably outlive all of these new vehicles though. But itl never be as cool haha. Is what it is. The 3rd gen taco was Toyotas last of a dying breed. This new stuff now is just far too advanced too many gizmos etc.
@Fuddermucker47Ай бұрын
I’m not a truck person. I’ve never wanted a truck. But this Ranger raptor is really speaking to me now that I’m getting older.
@オルフェーヴルの夫Ай бұрын
Boomers need to 🪢
@valensinclair6750Ай бұрын
Modern trucks are amazingly convenient, comfortable, and safe. And some are pretty fast.
@Fuddermucker47Ай бұрын
@@オルフェーヴルの夫 Ok, I am not a boomer if you are trying to tell me what I need to do
@KG_BMАй бұрын
I need more bison content as a zr2 owner! Lets get raptor VS Bison. Real power vs stock 35s
@UESideАй бұрын
That Raptor does sound good!
@atg1338Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 both sound like 💩💯
@marioa2753Ай бұрын
You mentioned the raptor has some issues. Just curious , what issues do they have so far ?
@MarkA500Ай бұрын
It’s a ford.
@marioa2753Ай бұрын
@@MarkA500 that’s true but it’s a 1st year platform in the US so let’s hope it’s slightly different than the other high end ford models
@layne4376Ай бұрын
@@MarkA500 I take it you haven't been following the Toyota issues as of late.
@James-t3cАй бұрын
@@MarkA500Toyota has a lot of issues.
@EmveeEssАй бұрын
In my experience the issues with the Raptor are all in fit and finish. For example, the plastic housing arond the rearview mirror isn't mated to the ceiling of the vehicle, so there is about a half inch gap between the two. In addition, I have a side door trim that isn't quite flush in the channel. There are little things here and there in the interior that don't line up just right or whatnot. However, when it comes to the driving the truck is capable and fun-as-heck and essentially washes away the fit and finish issues that just sort of "irk" me.
@chileshemubanga3594Ай бұрын
Design-wise(inside & out) I'd definitely get the Tacoma TRD pro & Trailhunter but engine-wise the Ranger takes it.
@Puddin127Ай бұрын
This ain’t even close. Tacomas are made in Mexico now and only have 4 cylinder options. The raptor has a 2.3Ltr 4 cylinder, a 2.7 6cyl, and a 3.0 ltr twin turbo, and is made here….easy choice in multiple ways.
@James-t3cАй бұрын
Tacos have been made in Mexico for long time now. Where have you been?
@junboge3149Ай бұрын
@@James-t3c It's pretty funny that our native cars are made by Mexican immigrants too
@James-t3cАй бұрын
@@junboge3149 That’s why I buy German cars. Built like tanks.
@2015BLOXXERАй бұрын
@@James-t3cwhat? Bro unless it’s one from the 90s they aren’t very reliable no?
@abrahamdz1471Ай бұрын
Like cars made in the states were perfect 🤦🏻♂️…
@atg1338Ай бұрын
Let people buy what they want with their own money.... so many haters on here.....
@Marco-vp8wlАй бұрын
The flashing map in the raptor starting around 10:00 seems supper anoying is there any way to avoid that with a non satelite view or similar?
@YeoldeOrangeАй бұрын
I think it appears as flashing in the video but it’s probably just the cameras shutter making it look that way.
@James-t3cАй бұрын
That’s the shutter speed in camera. You must be new to recordings.
@tyhyhhАй бұрын
Bros never watched a KZbin video before have you lol
@romanpaulc288Ай бұрын
He’s sending the RR harder 💪🏽
@joelalvarado27924 күн бұрын
What tunning you have in your Raptor ?
@Pingshots61Ай бұрын
How do you feel about lift kits on the ranger raptor??
@jarrods5494Ай бұрын
when will the press have access to test drive the new 4Runner? I feel like it's gotta be soon, right?
@TheTopherАй бұрын
First drive is in January!
@traviswillmarth5476Ай бұрын
So the Toyota interior rattles but the ford doesn't? Hmm
@jakeyoung66120 күн бұрын
Welcome to the new generation of toyota trucks. Build quality is nowhere near where it used to be.
@オルフェーヴルの夫Ай бұрын
Well one is an inline poor, one is a 6 cylinders. Not a difficult choice. Though I doubt ranger raptor will be an inline poor too.
@rosestrohm7986Ай бұрын
You'll be an inline poor after you buy them XD
@tommykingsalami22 күн бұрын
what tonneau cover is that on the RR?
@brianschor383215 күн бұрын
After all the issues I’ve been hearing with Toyota vehicles, there’s no way I’d even consider one right now.
@rosestrohm7986Ай бұрын
what do you think of trucks being too heavy nowadays to be realistically offroaded?
@bushflyr73352 күн бұрын
All the other comments nailed it, but MAN, Toy absolutely shit the bed on the new body style.
@jws84styАй бұрын
The screens in ford's and jeeps are at least hidden in the dash. Whereas toyotas screen stick out like a sore fuckin thumb. They gotta change that. I don't need a screen in my vehicle. But if there is going to be one hide that shit.
@bwproctor29 күн бұрын
Should have shown the back seat of the Ranger since it was mentioned so many times in the Tacoma.
@jdfleetguy28Ай бұрын
Great video! Hard to beat the Ranger Raptor. I love mine. I think I might have been the first one to swap out the rims for the Bronco SAS rims, the wider offset really makes a difference in the stance. I did bump my tires size slightly to 295/70R17. I also recently swapped out brighter SAS simulated bead lock rings with the OEM Ranger grey rings that came on the stock Ranger Raptor rims. The rings are interchangeable. I also bought a set of black rings off ebay that I have yet to try out.
@TheTopherАй бұрын
Heck yeah, your truck was the inspiration for the Sasquatch wheels! I’ve read through that thread on Ranger6g so many times. I’ve been thinking about painting my rings carbonized gray but for now am liking the way the silver pops. Your truck looks awesome, glad you’re enjoying it!
@jdfleetguy28Ай бұрын
@@TheTopher Yep, that would be me. I think I may have inspired several guys over on the R6G forum to swap over to the SAS rims. Just that little bit of added depth to the rim just looks so much better than the flat faced OEM Ranger version. Having a SAS Bronco in my stable at the time I ordered my RR gave me the idea before I even had possession of my RR, I already had my SAS rims and custom tire size all setting in the garage the same day I finally got to bring my RR home. I think I swapped them out that same night or the next morning. Keep up the great work. Really enjoying the videos.
@mcruz4467Ай бұрын
Pedal Commander will take care of that instant power!
@DavidLaird-i9sАй бұрын
Raptor is awesome but I believe the best bang for the buck is the ZR2. Not the bison but the ZR2. Would love to see the 3 stack up. All 3 are amazing trucks though and we are crazy lucky to have these trucks to choose from!
@justsayin360014 күн бұрын
The Chevy rated the lowest in reliability against Toyota and Ford according to Consumer Reports.
@DavidLaird-i9s13 күн бұрын
@ those consumer reports are from previous years, about 4 years prior. All of these are new models so there is no long term reliability available.
@ricknotd1ccАй бұрын
Hey what kind blind spot mirrors do you use on your cars? I am looking to get some and figured I should just get the ones you like. Thanks!
@TheTopherАй бұрын
Usually whatever’s at my local parts stores 👍
@YeoldeOrangeАй бұрын
Personally I like the trail hunter more than the pro, gotta love the turbo sounds in that snorkel!
@96kylarАй бұрын
Lame turbo sound and a snorkel that does nothing but add cost. Neat.
@YeoldeOrangeАй бұрын
@@96kylar someone call the wahhhmbulance
@James-t3cАй бұрын
I wish they didn’t rattle so bad. 70k for a truck that rattles is a no go for me. Way too much cheap plastic on interior. Raptor is way cheaper, better engine, high grade interior, better sounding, more fun driving, etc.
@YeoldeOrangeАй бұрын
@@James-t3c very fair, I hate it when just a cars stereo makes stuff rattle. I can’t imagine making a off road Baja truck without making it quiet…
@moogies3754Ай бұрын
@@YeoldeOrangehe’s right tho. Having a turbo doesn’t make it good and 99.9% of people don’t need a snorkel.
@joreldavis4069Ай бұрын
Raptor v Trailhunter next?
@mess735518 күн бұрын
How about some footage from the outside .. that would have been beneficial.
@fschaelАй бұрын
Their smiles says it all. Raptor all the way
@Ivann_LozannoАй бұрын
The backseat space on the Taco is terrible
@cl3826Ай бұрын
The Ranger has the most power, best stock suspension, best payload, lowest price, most time in market (which means more reliable), built in the USA, the towing is the only thing that kills me... but whatever... It's the obvious choice in my opinion. I just wish it had both 60/40 seats and rear vents for my dog
@juliusmakula16599 күн бұрын
I like the Taco.
@thorhang566Ай бұрын
What I have noticed throughout the years of owning multiple Toyota trucks and SUVs is that Toyota nerfs the throttle. I am currently driving a 2024 4Runnter TRD Pro and it was really sluggish no matter how hard I put my foot on the accelerator. After I installed a throttle controller, the 4Runner completely comes alive and you now have access to all that untapped power and torque that was restricted by the factory throttle programming. Maybe all the Tacoma needs is a throttle controller to unleash all of that low-end torque.
@Andyshine7714 күн бұрын
Get the OTT tune! All the throttle controllers do is up the voltage to the throttle. The Ott tune actually improves torque and horsepower along with improving throttle shift points. The throttle controllers are garbage.
@thorhang56614 күн бұрын
@@Andyshine77 I have a supercharger in mine. Can't go outside of the Magnuson tune. Even with the supercharger, the throttle felt restricted. But the throttle controller really does open the pipes and the 4Runner feels like a fighter jet now.
@krasnaludek298Ай бұрын
The Ford is such a better truck; even if they were priced the same. I’d even take a Chevy Colorado ZR2 over the Toyota.
@PLFreedomNowАй бұрын
The R Raptor is a beast!
@PLFreedomNowАй бұрын
Ranger Raptor*@@615truth
@Toe_Knee_6920 күн бұрын
That extra torque in the Tacoma is probably offset by the extra 600lbs of the hybrid system.
@JohnnyBoy919Ай бұрын
Is that fake engine noise on the inside of the ranger raptor?
@beexiong2995Ай бұрын
If i buy a trd pro i am not transporting people. I'm going baja running. If I want to transport people I buy the lower models or trail hunter with regular front seats
@COmidgeАй бұрын
Why not just build a dedicated baja truck then that is actually good at baja running? I am guessing you are in the minority of people who buy a 65k factory truck and don't want to use it to do factory truck kinds of things like use it for transporting people. I guess we will see how sales are. I would never buy one solely for the rear seat issues.
@96kylarАй бұрын
They all suck and you won’t be carrying anyone over 4’ tall in the rear.
@marioa2753Ай бұрын
Raptor all the way
@mikem146425 күн бұрын
when the rest of the world stopped labeling their products “pro” except for Toyota and Apple
@valensinclair6750Ай бұрын
The RRaptor is not that new. It's just new to the US market.
@Jesse-ms5qfАй бұрын
I think we are seeing the effects of the chicken tax in real time!
@tnkstudio462211 күн бұрын
Not sure what Toyota was thinking before designed these trucks. They got something good going should've added stuffs to be greater and not degrading. 65-70K for this little truck.
@สายเขียวภาคใต้Ай бұрын
Ranger 🇹🇭🇺🇸
@kenh3015Ай бұрын
Tacoma is a rattle trap
@jeffschimke329726 күн бұрын
Ford ranger raptor all the way and more dependable
@chrispewkremeАй бұрын
No clue why Toyota didn’t just give the Tacoma the Tundra engine… that 4 cylinder is disgusting.
@ssparkingАй бұрын
Both car is the best I like all
@sworks7124Ай бұрын
One thing you can do is show how much rust is under the Ford Ranger Raptor vs the Tacoma TRD Pro.
@TheTopherАй бұрын
Some early Rangers had it bad. My truck was clean underneath, got it rust proofed so it stays that way
@peteeberhardt3769Ай бұрын
So in moving the progress bar of the video back and forth between both trucks, I actually think I like the sound of the Toyota more, the sound of Ford's interior more(less moving and shaking of stuff,) and I think, at least from a distance, the Ford appears to have a smaller turning radius and looks like it handles better. So the real reason for purchasing the Toyota(its reliability) is in serious question, as, after the first year or two(gotta work out the "bugs,") I suspect it will be the more reliable, but the Ranger Raptor won't be like the other Ford products as it is an international truck; it will likely be decently reliable, and I find myself asking, is the Tacoma's reliability worth 5 - 10k more?
@tomycmtАй бұрын
With dealer mark up on raptor good luck getting it for 55k.
@Geotoxic27 күн бұрын
I got mine for msrp back in April. It's there. Just gotta look.
@BigAltimaEnergy719Ай бұрын
Ranger won’t get stuck from light off-roading like the Tacoma lol
@KandiceWilcoxАй бұрын
Please, just drive through the mud puddle already.
@adrens4617Ай бұрын
Am i the only one or is are the steering wheels a like for like copy of each other
@James-t3cАй бұрын
They all copy each other. All round.
@smittysmitty481Ай бұрын
Ranger for me
@James-t3cАй бұрын
Toyota looks awful in comparison. Yikes.
@Ryder62626 күн бұрын
"TRD" stands for ( Toyota Racing Department ) but yet they make a slow truck. There's nothing Racing about it. Toyota needs to make a fast tacoma that will actually live up to a real "TRD" name....get a clue Toyota.
@COmidgeАй бұрын
Raptor all day. Toyota rattles like my Jeep TJ. Why bother with rear seats when there is no room and also objects protruding into the rear seat space. I don't understand how a rear seat passenger can withstand not destroying their knees in a collision.
@simonmcgraw9426Ай бұрын
Is it just the camera angle or the tacoma TRD looks a bit too low ? i'm used to deliver mostly tremors and did not touch the tacoma's yet.
@TheTopherАй бұрын
Might just be the camera angle. The TRD Pro looks like it has a leveling kit from the factory! no rake like on the Ranger RAptor
@jibrilthegreat3516 күн бұрын
Ranger Raptor is a superior truck, no contest.
@ThomasR-s5g5 күн бұрын
Your comparing your tuned 2024 Ford Ranger Raptor to an untuned Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro? Your biased opinion stacked the deck in Ford's favor what other work have you done to your Ranger Raptor? After 3 to 5 years of ownership the Toyota Tacoma will garner$10,000 to 12,000 more in resale value.
@chrispewkremeАй бұрын
I would love the Toyota looks with the Ford engine.
@yoegsterАй бұрын
That back seat room is horrible. What a bad design. You can't use the back seat!
@jameswright79238 күн бұрын
Ranger raptor for sure for atleast ten years but the Toyota for twenty years that’s the main difference lived it I’m sixty years old and have had both ford and Toyota heck 2010 raptors are all but dying not to many left on road
@TheWanderinBearАй бұрын
The cost of a modern vehicles and the amount of interior rattle these days are to damn high!
@-zerocool-Ай бұрын
Already from the off you can see the Raptor is better built and styling integrated nicely. The Toyota just looks like it has bits stuck on.
@cptoblivious7357Ай бұрын
What's up with the map flashing in the Ranger?
@DP-jajaАй бұрын
I’m a Toyota fanboy (owned four 4Runners with my current Trail) but this is no contest if they were the same price….with price considered Toyota should be charged for violating the Geneva Convention!!!!
@fbcaosgaming425Ай бұрын
turbo on this tacoma is going to get bad fast turning off the engine ritgth oway after bitting on it
@eagleclaw14918 күн бұрын
Taco all the way.
@cpftank09Ай бұрын
As a Toyota fanboy, the new Tacoma is underwhelming and over priced. I have to give it to Ford on this one. Even the lower trim levels are available with the 2.7 ecoboost would be one heck of a truck and probably get as good of mpg as a Tacoma hybrid.
@mattryerson390224 күн бұрын
lol taco is a joke compared to that ford!
@kimsaronАй бұрын
I'll take the Ranger Raptor over a Taco any day of the week.
@bigfootswatching9986Ай бұрын
These new Junky Toyota's will break down on ya!!!
@Deatomizer28 күн бұрын
The TRD is not a Raptor. The TRD is your typical over-priced under-powered and over designed Toyota.
@paulpeters5199Ай бұрын
No comparison at all ranger raptor all day every day
@Sullivan09300Ай бұрын
every reviewer says the ranger raptor starts at 55k, but ive yet to see one under 60 and its never mentioned. your not getting a raptor much cheaper than a trd pro. the pros are discounted and the rangers are upsold.
@JerryRichards-l1dАй бұрын
4 months ago I started shopping them and it was impossible to find one at msrp. Took me about 2 months to finally get one without markup. I see them every day at msrp now in PA and Ohio.
@slomango792713 күн бұрын
My local ford dealer had one for $56k
@ThomasR-s5g5 күн бұрын
Ford Fanboy I thought you were comparing 2 stock trucks but clearly your Ranger Raptor isn't stock! You mentioned that you tuned it and only beat the Tacoma by 1 car length what other modifications have you made?