2024 Triumph Daytona 660 Full Power & LAMS Review

I test out the Triumph Daytona 660 in both full power and LAMS versions for the Australian launch, with the two offering a fresh option in the 650 class of bikes, that while not as premium as a modern Street Triple, has plenty to offer for their sub $15K ride-away price here in Australia.
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[@shuiyuanliao8191]

Hi, Chris. Just wondering does the LAMs version makes a big difference? And also is it possible to derestrict it by flashing the ECU to full power and will it affect the modes of the motorcycle like rain, road and race. Thank you

[@MotoJournoKris]

There was some minor differences between the bikes until you hit the restriction where the LAMS bike really hits a wall and won't accelerate, at about 180, which to me wouldn't be much of a concern unless I was seriously tracking the bike. An ECU flash probably would do it, from what I understand these bikes are specific to Australia/NZ so they aren't exactly the same as the Euro A2 bikes, where I think that and a throttle stop may be the big things.

[@mathewcross4799]

Nice review as always. Just picked up a trident a few weeks back due to the more naked style.

[@MotoJournoKris]

The Trident is awesome! What colour did you get?

[@mathewcross4799]

@MotoJournoKris the gloss black with yellow trim. I live in adelaide hills and it's been cold and wet the last 2 week buy I've rode it to city every day.

[@dannyfat8554]

@@mathewcross4799hey man I’m 15, 16 in a few months and looking to ride as soon as I can (16 and 9 months in nsw) do you think it would be possible to start on a Daytona 660 or trident 660?

[@wlt3585]

​@dannyfat8554 It's definitely doable, but at only 16-17 I'd start smaller, personally. If possible, I would recommend getting a much cheaper used motorcycle around 3000-5000$ USD, with around 50 horsepower or lower. Ride that for 3000-5000+ miles in a variety of road conditions to really establish your fundamentals and figure out what you want out of a bike. Then, at that point buy whatever bike you want. The skills should be in place to carry over. If that's not doable in your area though or you just really don't want to, the Trident 660 and even the Daytona 660 are fine beginner+ motorcycles. I just know that around that age, dropping 5000$ maximum on a motorcycle was alot easier to swallow than 11000-12000$. Especially when you're likely to drop it or bite off more than you can chew at some point. Nothing wrong with that, but maintaining and insuring a motorcycle should play as big a factor as the initial cost

[@AST4EVER]

3:03 that should've turned now into a Continental Rift 😂

[@artsuriyawong5461]

Was the white bike in the video the LAMS or full power version?

[@MotoJournoKris]

Rode both on the day, from memory the onboard was the LAMS.

[@tlita93]

I always wondered if it’s possible to restrict a bike with only ECU tune, without physical, so to speak, parts like smaller intakes to the restrict the air engine can take like MT07 for example.. (maybe i messed up the naming here, but you get my point) 🙂

[@MotoJournoKris]

Yep that's how ride modes work on RbW bikes, with different power maps. Rain modes often restrict outright peak power in that way, and/or throttle response for a much slower and more doughy reaction to throttle inputs, making the bike more docile. There's also bikes in different markets with different performance or redline with this method, generally to meet country-specific emissions or sound requirements, where an ECU flash can unleash more performance.

[@michaelmckenna2882]

Hi Kris can you say where that road is, it looks a lot like the road between Black Springs to Goulburn??

[@MotoJournoKris]

I was actually in South Australia for this test ride, we did a loop from The Bend back into Adelaide, but I'm not familiar with the roads, as it was my first visit.

[@michaelmckenna2882]

@@MotoJournoKris ok thanks Kris 👍

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Hi Kris, you hit the nail on the wall with the LAMS version hitting an ECU controlled max. Interesting that you found the LAMS one to offer more down low, as being ECU controlled they are identical in performance characteristics up until the ECU starts dialling power down at around 6,250 rpm. Perhaps more of a but Dyno effect as nothing else is different (just like derestricting the old Street Triple 660).

[@MotoJournoKris]

Some of the guys were doing rolling tests on the open road at the launch, the LAMS was pulling away from the full power down low. Which mirrored the difference I actually noticed between the two bikes.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

@@MotoJournoKris All you need to do Kris is look at the Dyno charts for each as this backs up what I mentioned 100%. You of all people should know this, plus Triumph also agrees as it’s the very reason why it’s one of the simplest machines to go from A2 to full power.

[@MotoJournoKris]

@@marcusgeorge1825 What dyno chart are you looking at?

[@eviewild1076]

@@marcusgeorge1825 You're quite the armchair expert, arent ya, kient. On paper doesnt mean shit. Drop the dyno charts too.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

@@eviewild1076 An armchair expert? 😂 As someone who has over 40 years of experience from racing dirt bikes as a kid. To working their way up to the Australian Superbike Series, where at my old home racetrack I’ve completed over 1,000 laps. Phillip Island. If this is what you call an armchair expert then I pray for you and hope you get some help. Dynos play a huge role just in case you are interested in learning and also the difference between how OEM’s go about restricting LAMS bikes as they do have more way than one.

[@ralphwarom2514]

`Second Request for someone to give this man An H2 SX to review.

[@alitoroganan2442]

Dang my 2018 street triple 660s unrestricted is making 82whp at platinum motorcycles in Melbourne, cannot believe triumph never made at least 100hp on these bikes

[@MotoJournoKris]

To be able to restrict them to A2 in the EU they can't make more than 70 kW, otherwise they need to release a specific low power model that can be restricted, like Suzuki did with the GSX-S950. So that seems to be a bit of a glass ceiling on performance caused by Europe's legislation for anything likely to be popular for A2. At least where they don't want to release multiple models.

[@alitoroganan2442]

@@MotoJournoKris even the high output models are just 90hp yea

[@MotoJournoKris]

@@alitoroganan2442 Yep!

[@TheJoker-gg8hc]

​@@MotoJournoKristhat whole paragraph raises red flags to me. Europe is full of cowards.

[@susanboucher2116]

Just by a 2007 Daytona for 110bhp howling!

[@MotoJournoKris]

If you're just after a supersport that's not a bad idea, these fall more into the sport-tourer kind of area. More relaxed, more comfortable, better for long rides and commuting.

[@Bobby-wn5yr]

Looks good first impressions! I watched this just after the Bennetts Uk shoot out that featured it too and really loved the engine. Tbh I kinda hate my inner consumer that wants the suspension, the power, etc. lol in reality you can always upgrade the suspension, I’m just happy we’re getting a full power version. So annoying when they don’t even offer them. Honestly I don’t even know what the point of the Honda 650 platform is in Australia lol. Hope you get one for a longer review Chris, I’m definitely interested. Up until now the only thing close to it in a similar class was thr RS660 and too expensive, too race focused geometry and ride for the road imho. I tried to like the R7, but if I’m honest it just isn’t that comfortable or fun. Still hoping Honda drop a cbr750 though

[@MotoJournoKris]

Yep that engine is a real gem, it's not quite up there with a Street Triple on the chassis side of things, but like you say, you can upgrade the suspenders if you end up feeling like you need it, so there's the battle between what you really need, and what you ideally want, with pricing a big factor there. A CBR750 or CB750R or something along those lines would make sense with that new twin too, especially if they keep it more casual like the Daytona, so everyday riders can get the fairings without the full supersport ergo, and priced close to the Hornet.

[@Bobby-wn5yr]

@@MotoJournoKrissorry if I missed this, but is the donk basically the same as the limited 660 they’ve been doing ever since the LAMS came in, or were these redesigned at some point? You just reminded me I have ridden the old stripple 660! If they did offer other full power bikes that trident might be pretty appealing too. They look so good and aren’t very expensive really, tbh I think I used the restriction as an excuse not to buy one when they came out lol

[@MotoJournoKris]

@@Bobby-wn5yr I'd guess it's built off the same engine, it's been a while since I tested the Street Triple 660 (maybe 2014 or 2015!) and that was prior to the more modern versions with all the electronics and RbW. Back then, the engine was a bit more fiery and aggressive than the Trident version. I'm not sure if the Trident version was closer to the LAMS Street Triple that's been available more recently, as the last one I tested was the Street Triple 765 R. The Trident with the full power engine though... would be very nice to see. I hope what I heard on the grapevine comes true there!

[@hair2050]

Fuel economy for the lams bike?

[@MotoJournoKris]

Hard to judge because we swapped bikes halfway through the day and I didn't see what each bike took for a refill. I'd want a few longer rides to average it out with similar refills to put a figure to it.