2024 VW Golf 2.0 TSI 4motion BLACK EDITION - THE BEST MK8?

[@alliedfroth]

Really annoys me when they use the R badging on none R golfs.

[@conorf8091]

Isn’t the “R” a line though and not specific to golf R? Like polos with strimmer engines in but have R line badges

[@alliedfroth]

@@conorf8091 No! A golf R is what it is a Golf R. You aint getting the RS line with Audi, a RS is a RS.

[@projectr2451]

@@conorf8091 R is Volkswagen’s performance division. The R Line is simply a styling pack. It’s the top of the line trim for the non-performance Golf. It’s the same with S Line, M Sport, AMG Line, etc.

[@projectr2451]

@@conorf8091 It’s essentially getting the looks of the performance variants in an affordable package. But the Mk8 R Line doesn’t look much like the R to me. More like the GTD, GTI and GTE, in terms of front grill shape. The Mk7.5 Golf R Line looked a lot more like the Golf R. Only difference was the R Line had honeycomb grille, whereas the R had slats. R Line obviously had R Line logo and didn’t come with LED lights as standard. And from the rear, the R Line has fake exhaust tips, whereas the R has quad exhaust pipes, two on each side. And they’re real. 😊

[@butchmeister80]

Boo hoo

[@mufasa6511]

Have had my GTI 8 for almost 2 yrs now, alot of hate for them over the internet, but unless you own one, only then will you understand how dynamically well they drive, especially now that i have just put a set of Bridgestone Potenza Sports on it replacing the terrible Hankook ones Definitely the best handling GTI i have ever owned

[@jamesead9095]

The Bridgestones will always improve handling Potentzial.

[@mufasa6511]

Exactly! Having a fair amount of experience across all brands of tyres on all my vehicles i choose Bridgestones all day everyday, their sidewalls are unique for performance orientation​@jamesead9095

[@dimsoneill]

Compared to a 7.5 they look like a beluga whale.

[@jonathanprescott5292]

I bought a used GTi about 6 months ago (love it btw) and these were just coming onto the market. I fancied testing a 2.0 tsi one, but only found about 3 for sale in the country and all had the smaller engine

[@paulallen6915]

My wife has had this running gear in her T roc for 5 years, she likes it. Does this use the gen B engine that uses the Budack (Miller) cycle for valve opening and closing ? It's the econo version of the EA888. Runs out of turbo early though and pointless holding on to gears. I can't see a MAF sensor on this though, so it may just be a detuned EA888.

[@Theurgicnick]

Same engine out of the face lifted Polo Gti. Wifes got one and I can confirm same engine code, DNN(D) in her case. Which as you correctly suspect is a detuned version of the 888

[@paulkillelay7966]

Tracked this actual Black Edition down and took delivery earlier this week, great Golf more than happy. Now a two MK8 Golf family (both DCC) Great cars

[@OtterlyInsane]

Those new engine covers were fitted earlier this year on cars that had the old one removed

[@chrisp4899]

My polo gti engine has a nicer tsi lid

[@kouroshdavoudi7828]

What a nice golf,it doesn't need the R to make it better ❤

[@ryanpinder9053]

The R makes it worse, wouldn’t drive a car pretending to be something it’s not

[@AHRA-xm2et]

GTI 8 245 hp share same discs 340mm and callipers size with Mk 7 GTI club sport / S , 7.5 GTI performance, TCR , Golf 7 / 7.5 R and T Rock R . You can also retrofit Golf 8/8.5 GTI CS / R discs and calipers on Golf 8 /8.5 GTI 245 & 265 hp .

[@dylanh1978]

I've really warmed to the mk8 now. I'd buy one

[@jimmyjt16]

38k for a run of the mill Golf. Who’s buying that really?

[@trzmaier]

What’s the economy like comparing to your club sport?

[@Karl75R]

Would of made a decent estate as they have no interesting wagons anymore unless your spending £40k+

[@volkswizard]

That is a good point Karl! Maybe it exists in Europe somewhere as they love estates. I can imagine it being a Swiss spec.

[@sandbob8211]

I bought a Golf 8 1.5 TSi recently (my 4th Golf in total) and I would love to get my hands on this Black edition! It looks beautiful! One to look out for 4 sure! ❤❤❤

[@malcolmscott4150]

Great review Andrew - this drivetrain used in A3 40 TFSI in Oz along with 1.5 in A35 - I’d be ,ore interested if more bhp as 140kw from a 2.0 turbo engine in 2024 is underwhelming and not sure 320nm of torque compensates when GTI has 370nm however AWD is the big gain here especially on slippery winter roads

[@stobsie]

Seems to me it’s a parts bin special or maybe VW are testing the water for the MK8.5

[@JohnGuidetti751]

Parts bin special how?

[@jakehammond7972]

I’m a few months away from purchasing. I’m interested in a 7.5 performance pack or R. I’d need to check insurance cost on the R. Do you still sell cars? If not is there anywhere you’d recommend to purchase one? I’ve got a polo worth between 8 and 9 k. I think I have about 4 k in savings with a few months around September have another 3 to 4 k saved. If there’s any recommendations it would be greatly appreciated

[@chrisml91]

Wish they didn’t stop making the manuals

[@eponymous7910]

It's a crying shame really. VW does a great manual in the non- performance model golfs

[@TravisCopham]

Interested in this review specifically because my formentor is a 190 4WD set up, and most Formentor reviews are 150 or the 310. Would be good to learn more about what the E888 190 engine is in relation to its more powerful offerings.

[@volkswizard]

I think the DNN engine could well be the GTI 245 engine with different software. The EA888s with higher output will all be a different version with bigger turbo and uprated internals. You’ll enjoy your Formentor 👍

[@Theurgicnick]

Andrew I think you’re right. My wife has the face lifted Polo GTI and it has the same engine code DNN(D) in her case, which gets the slight bump in power to 207bhp and same torque figure of 320NM

[@Janton17]

My parents had almost a full spec one on order, AWD, 190ps, Pano, winter, etc. There own words were "We bought the GTD because it was the same spec but had the IQ headlights, it's a shame the option wasn't there for this model". It's amazing that VW havent allowed this option on more model as in today's world of "headlight wars" that manufactures seem to be pushing, a lot of people take this into consideration. They did test the car and said it drove really smoothly and was quite fun, although they are used to the engine and gearbox from there Tiguan R Line Tech with the same running gear.

[@richy_rude]

kinda surprised they allow you to put it up on a ramp, what if you damaged it?

[@JohnGuidetti751]

Kinda surprised they allow people to test drive cars, what if you crash it?

[@butchmeister80]

I have the rline in same colour prefer the diamond cut wheels. All black look like had a cheap refurb, great vid and statement best golf ever.

[@tonyjazz4073]

Hi Andrew. Followed the Mk8 highs and lows same time you had your CS. You guided me through its "foibles" but it's still a great drive, to me anyway. Yup, shame about the IT etc but the Mk8.5 is like mine but a bigger interface screen sans gremlins.Well, at almost 50K not for me.

[@cfbm125]

Great video again Andrew! 👌, this model does rather intrigue me tbh! FYI, the product code for the front discs on the 245 GTI is [ 1LG ] these have a diameter of 340mm, not 312mm. 🙂

[@DarrenJMHughes]

This model really did have a quiet unveiling when it could have had more of a press launch. Looks a great all round car for the masses, call it the people car if you will 😬. I only wish they would badge the cars as R Line.

[@anUntouchable]

Black is much better

[@tomashley5869]

What a great car ! Would be the perfect upgrade from my Golf 8 1.5 eTSI with DCC. Best option I ticked, along with iQ light. The 1.5 has plenty of liveliness but doesn’t like higher rpms. Cheers, Tom

[@mattluxton]

Crazy how much really obvious cost cutting has been applied to the back seating area! Almost seems like a different trim level in the back compared to the front. Saying that I’m still not keen on the front area or the mk8 in general.

[@davidhughes1610]

Great comprehensive video again. Look forward to you getting your hands on a 8.5

[@jakehammond7972]

Hopefully the price does fall

[@Adrianperformancequattro]

In haldex 6gen,like in this video and audi s3 8y etc,there is no ECU module.Haldex pump its ecu control unit.

[@philipbarkle3837]

Great video Andrew.👍

[@alexdavies2888]

Wish they put this powertrain in the mk7.5 like the same gen A3, would have jumped on one as soon as. Hopefully they'll do this for the Mk8.5

[@mjbadboy14]

Effectively this is an Audi A3 2.0 Quattro 8V.

[@beatles4sale2007]

Good review, looks as if it’s a “best” all rounder Golf. They still sell Golfs by the bucket load, although maybe a year old S3 might be a sweeter spot.

[@volkswizard]

Ahh but that A3/S3/RS3 interior is 🤢

[@iantaylor620]

Nearly £40k😂😂. Seriously?

[@polopowered]

You can spend that on a Corolla now.

[@iantaylor620]

@polopowered Possibly. But prices for the Corolla start at £29,500. For £40k that's going to be a top specced bells and whistles car. Not a base spec with primer paint, no scuff plates, cloth seats, Golf with a few badges stuck on!!

[@polopowered]

@@iantaylor620 true, I do agree that VAG Group pricing is bonkers, but people will pay it. Goodness knows why?! I'll stick with my Corolla Touring!

[@grumpytorque8905]

Got the black pack on my 24 T-Roc R line and that too has the fake exhausts in black rather than chrome….thankfully

[@chrisp4899]

Northamptonshire roads are the worst! The car fills the performance gap nicely between 150 ps r line and gti

[@neilpidgeon8317]

looks like it arrived at VW Tunbridge Wells.. (just under £39k)

[@greatharry4444]

Shame these were not produced for mk7 and 7.5 like Audi did with the A3 8V Quattro. Nice stealth alternative to an S3

[@JohnGuidetti751]

It’s not a performance car. How can it be stealth. Just get a GTI Club sport or R you’d be very disappointment if you bought that thinking it was a Golf R or S3.

[@philipguacci6452]

I think Australia gets the Mk8.5 next year. But supply will be a factor and price also. Mk8 still fetching over $63k, if you could find one. And I don't want to. I like the moonstone grey. But actually purchasing one. No thanks.

[@MrDarrenNice]

A great review of a Golf model that I never knew existed. What lovely well rounded package this car is 😍

[@rasherbasher8203]

Great review as always..

[@thingymejig13]

Was waiting for someone to review this. Good Job!

[@volkswizard]

Thanks! Pistonheads did a review which unlike some I don’t recycle the sentiment from, my own opinion was that it was a great real world drive

[@rasherbasher8203]

😂 26:21 go on son🤣🤣

[@maverick4177]

Rare? It’s a Boggo golf with no real appeal whatsoever Vw needs to stop with all this electric nonsense and get back to making powerful petrol cars that sound nice

[@dgg7377]

No chance of that unfortunately, it's milk floats all the way from here on 😢

[@rasherbasher8203]

🤞🙏

[@butchmeister80]

Awd is rare

[@garymcgregor7048]

Lovely that like, be a bargain in a few years time once the prices settle

[@rasherbasher8203]

8:57 That exhaust looks awful. Look better with gtd twin exhaust

[@switchbladeromance1466]

Looks really basic.. Rather have my GTD 7.5 ❤

[@dimsoneill]

The grey has always looked good, you are just a bit slow to the party and have very questionable taste and opinions. Glad you finally woke up. And no, this is nowhere near the best Mk8. Click-baity BS.

[@tomhirschel8524]

VW should have made the UP! R.

[@alivekicking6247]

I havent got time for fake versions of fast cars

[@volkswizard]

They are all it, we even had a look a like version of the Mk1 GOLF GTI called Driver. Big difference now is these fake versions are still actually fast cars

[@alivekicking6247]

@volkswizard but the Driver never had a fake GTI badge. And all cars were slow in those days, unless it was called a Countach or a Super 7.

[@alivekicking6247]

@@volkswizard actually, why haven't they revived the "Driver" badge... that would be much better than fake Rs

[@jrnstianolsen3121]

its strange how VW could make the m8 so damn ugly, im sure it drives good but that damn look on that car just make me think... hell nooo

[@johntyrell9421]

36k 4 a 1.5tsi 😂😂😂bag of shite just buy the full fat golf r not the wanna be 4 simlar price

[@stevenhearnden6103]

It's a VW, so it's tedious, unreliable shite. That's all you need to know. 😂

[@davidhughes1610]

Great comprehensive video again. Look forward to you getting your hands on a 8.5