2025 Genesis G80 First Drive | This Is The Lexus GS That Should Have Been

[@Tully3674]

Excellent title for this video. This is what the Lexus GS should have been.

[@naveenthemachine]

Well genesis is what Lexus should be Instead Lexus is what Infiniti has almost become and to an extent what Chrysler and Jaguar are becoming: extinct and irrelevant

[@SanthoshKumar-ye3sh]

Yes this shows what Hyundai is capable of.

[@박동석-u7u]

@@naveenthemachine lexus is outdated garbage

[@naveenthemachine]

@@박동석-u7u agreed. They ostensibly no longer exist. They’ve been discontinued

[@John.Christopher]

​@@naveenthemachineif that's true it I'd a shame because the LS and LC are two of the very best cars ever created.

[@mikeisaacs2314]

Genesis is doing better then the Japanese automakers

[@Crosmyn]

It has what appears to be an IR driver monitoring system; it would be really interesting if Genesis came out with a Super Cruise style system before it's Japanese, German competitors did.

[@KoreanAmericanLawyer.NewPortBe]

Hyundai Kia are the new Toyota Honda. They are killing it!!!

[@naveenthemachine]

Meanwhile all the Hyundai Kia haters are freaking out over this

[@juneaaahn6826]

Even better. In EVs. Way better. The best!

[@billshoe22191]

Beautiful car inside and out. Easily the best looking sedan in its class by quite some margin. Love that Genesis makes proper rwd based luxury cars. I do miss some of the pre refresh interior but overall this interior is gorgeous. I just wish they would ditch the piano place plastic on the dash around the buttons. I get that they made it shiny to blend in with the screen but because of the overuse of piano black plastic by the auto industry, I cringe any time I see shiny black surfaces.

[@beatrixbrennan1545]

I feel the same about black rims and grills. Cringe worthy to me.

[@ctbryant09]

17:57 I believe you meant to say G70 when referring to the smaller vehicle from Genesis

[@trinisuprazee]

couldn't wait for this!!! We have a GV80 that's been fantastic and I just bought a 21 530i with 40k miles. Liking the bmw so far but love the styling and exclusivity of the G80! will pick up one in a year or so thanks alex

[@saadgt2009]

By upbringing and inclination, I'd go for a G80. However, I have pets, plants, and picnic plans, and I'd need the rear hatch and folding rear seats of the GV80 (regular or coupé)... 🖖🙏

[@l10industries]

This is the exact sort of car where the EV would be the obvious choice. Hyundai has charging figured out, with enough range this would be a road trip beast.

[@emoney1231]

Well that exists. The electrified G80 has 282 mile combined range, and does 10-80% in 22 minutes.

[@l10industries]

@@emoney1231 I was meaning the refresh to match the one in the video. Should be out in a few months. I have an Ioniq 6, the G80 looks like a nice step up.

[@emoney1231]

@@l10industries Yep, my bad. I am not super familiar with Genesis models, so I misunderstood.

[@adstix]

Good looks but I wish it had the fuel efficiency of the Lexus ES

[@naveenthemachine]

Who cares about efficiency at this point? 😂 no one Luxury car shoppers shouldn’t even be concerned about fuel efficiency

[@bg1379]

100%. If this had a hybrid powertrain in the US, it would steal tons of ES300h buyers. In the meantime...

[@naveenthemachine]

@@bg1379 but fuel economy shouldn’t matter The only reason to introduce hybrids here is for better performance

[@LilRick96]

​@@naveenthemachine I do. I love Genesis but their Achilles heel is fuel efficiency compared to their competitors. Gas prices suck under this administration so I would love my vehicle to be and to go far with that tank

[@i.d.6492]

Of course you gonna have bad mpgs because you have a powerful engine. The is500 with n/a V8 isn't good on mpgs either. 17/25. Most vehicles with powerful engines don't have good mpgs.

[@ctbryant09]

Genesis 🤸🏾‍♂️🏃🏾‍♂️🏋🏾‍♂️😫 Love them Flaws and all!! Talk about new life and innovation with value and luxury. Debating between this and GV80 Coupe, I want both but my finances would never allow for such things lol Great review with great scenery

[@moktafizaman9077]

Always dream high, man, even if you can't get them all now. It doesn't mean you never will.

[@Bash-Toks]

Currently on the G80 electrified, I would do the gv80 coupe if they electrify it in the future.

[@zsamps]

The G80 3.5T Sport Prestige is a better car in terms of style and ride comfort, and it's a little bit cheaper than the 3.5T Prestige GV80, although the upcoming electrified G80 will be even better (you should wait for it).

[@SanthoshKumar-ye3sh]

I will pick this one without out a second thought...

[@brokeboy87]

Hyundai is working on a new hybrid system. I would love to see it in the latest Genesis.

[@xDDLFxD]

They announced that’s it’s coming to Genesis

[@fighter835]

In a lease, reliability doesn't matter, but if you're buying, you can drive these trouble free for 10+ years and have the warranty as a piece of mind feature, as opposed to the Germans that are unreliable piles of garbage after 40k miles. My 5 series needed THREE carbon build up services at $550 a pop before it reached 100k, not to mention the myriad of other problems I had with it.

[@zsamps]

Those carbon build-up services are supposed to be done on every GDI-only car, so that's normal maintenance.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, I hope this video inspires Lexus to bring back the GS. 🤩🤩

[@naveenthemachine]

Won’t happen. Because once genesis came to the scene, Lexus has been slowly going out of business because they just can’t afford to compete They’re putting out truly mediocre models lately and they’re going to be discontinued at some point because people are wising up realizing that Lexus is no longer relevant like they used to be. Oh how thou might have badly fallen for Lexus

[@TheLaw_11]

Can't afford? Suvs outsell sedans 10:1, which is why many brands have discontinued sedans

[@bdw66]

​@@TheLaw_11 you would have to put me 6' under in a box before I would buy an SUV (or an EV)

[@chrissimmons9969]

If I could afford one (and I can't).... I would go with the G80 3.5 twin turbo. Of course lease only. I just imagine resale on Genesis is akin to Hyundai and drops like a rock.....

[@beatrixbrennan1545]

The prices for these in my area are plummeting and I'm stoked because I'm getting one!

[@nerhy1]

g80 sedan would be my choice

[@Oversight85]

Something that never gets mentioned - lease rates. A top spec G80 Sport is about $1,200/mth here in Canada, while a mid spec B58 5 series (2025) is minimum $1650. The MSRP isn’t the biggest consideration when everyone leases.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

New BMW 530i/540i are 199.2in long. New E class is 194.9in long. Its actually not really that long for the segment anymore. Every cat company is making newer models so much larger. New compact Equinox EV is onky 2in shorter than the midsize Blazer EV. I think the IS500 is like 187in long and the Accord is 195.7 long. Funny how large cars are getting.

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

Great review! They still can't get the rear seats to fold down though - MAJOR oversight! Also, their 6 cyl gets the same mpg as BMWs twin turbo V8, making 523hp. So, gas mileage is abysmal, IMO. I do love the spare tire though - and the soft suspension.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow are you really going to care about gas mileage at this point? Because if you are, you really shouldn’t be shopping in the luxury market

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

@@naveenthemachine - This is a 5 Series and E-Class competitor. Not S-Class, 7 Series, or LS competitor. Yes - people very much care about gas mileage. It's not a luxo-barge, it's a mid-size. It will be embarrassing when your neighbor's M550i gets the same MPG and they scoff at the Genesis engineering after asking about the MPG. Genesis needs to step of their game.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow but a 5 series or e class don’t cost 30-40k. They’re 70-100K. If you want the ultimate luxury of mpg buy a Prius

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

@@naveenthemachine if midsize luxury car buyers didn't care about gas mileage they wouldn't produce the 530i or the 530e, would they?

[@naveenthemachine]

@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow you’re not buying the 530i or 530e for mpg. You’re buying it for the performance. Same with a Volvo PHEV. You’re buying it because it has 455hp

[@marlonmonsegue4853]

Genesis should gravitate towards the hybrid in all their vehicles and this to me will create a stir in the mid-sized luxury segment hybrid should be introduced in both 4 and 6 cylinder offerings

[@juneaaahn6826]

Electrified Genesis 80. Is the best luxurious EV.

[@LearnAboutFlow]

This is also what Cadillac should have been putting out.

[@beatrixbrennan1545]

Agreed. Their interiors have looked like a 97 chevy blazer forever.

[@bruddahmanmatt]

@3:25 Volvo hasn’t made an S80 since 2016, although I wouldn’t blame you for melding all of Volvo’s sedans into one model given how understated and similar they are.

[@MichaelRodriguez-nw5dt]

He was highlighting a lot of "80s" and the S80 slipped in for the S90. I wish you could get the S90 with AWD and the old Yamaha V8.

[@billurban1581]

​@@MichaelRodriguez-nw5dt S90 V8? Why would you want less than 455hp and 523 lbs ft? That AWD drivetrain in my S60 is a barn burner, while delivering 104 mpg since Nov, 2022.

[@MichaelRodriguez-nw5dt]

@@billurban1581 One of the reasons would be that the Yamaha V8 makes beautiful Yamaha V8 noises. Yamaha was also involved in the V10 in the Lexus LFA and tuned its "tune" perfectly. Let them "tune" the 4.4 V8 and turn the block 90 degrees for a rear wheel drive biased AWD system in the S90. Also, the S90 is like 10 feet longer than the S60 and so it "needs" a V8. Peace!

[@LafemmebearMusic]

@@MichaelRodriguez-nw5dtthat old Yamaha v8 was just headaches … headaches 😅😢

[@godofdun]

Man they really need to update these power train options, hope that's coming soon.

[@ThatWasherNerd]

Interior color scheme reminds me heavily of my previous 2012 Infiniti G37

[@i.d.6492]

There are lots of color schemes like that

[@springertube]

For a second I thought there was a return to sanity... probably dates me but, I like the old front end better!

[@LafemmebearMusic]

So I just wonder why you couldn’t spare us the hyperbolic part and just say , you preferred the previous front end. I promise, being a car girl in spaces with all you boys has taught me you all are very emotional 😅😂

[@vanceforrest4085]

Give me the old gauge cluster all day long.

[@mattheww7743]

I not only agree, but it's the reason I bought a 2024 G80 in July - LOVE the 3D instrument cluster & HUD, and can't stand the looooong screen in the 2025. I've driven a couple of Tesla's from the body shop (as loaners) over the years and I can NOT stand having a computer screen as the main driver interface ....

[@CrazyWeeMonkey]

While I love this car's looks/tech/etc, the fuel economy is pretty disappointing. My 2012 A6 3.0T Quattro had similar performance with considerably better fuel economy, and that was supercharged!! The ICE version of this car would desperately benefit from hybridization. The current 540i smokes this on fuel economy and performance too, high-20s MPG while being nearly a second faster (according to CarAndDriver).

[@i.d.6492]

I absolutely disagree. This is a 3.5 engine. Almost 400 crank hp, fuel economy isn't even on mind when purchasing performance focused engine. Show me any 360+ hp sedan that gets a good mpgs?

[@i.d.6492]

20mpgs is very inconsistent at all. On paper is one thing but daily driving is different. The 540I ain't getting better mpgs than this trust me

[@mattheww7743]

The fuel economy doesn't bother me as much as the cost of premium fuel over regular ... but that still didn't stop me from getting my G80

[@i.d.6492]

@@mattheww7743 same but G70 3.3T

[@EmmyJune212008]

The front end continues to be the aesthetic weak spot of what is otherwise a very handsome car. I also wish the wheels didn’t have the overly busy waffle design.

[@SSS-mp8th]

Thought the G70 was discontinued for 2025. Genesis really needs a 2 door coupe. Something performance focused.

[@tjs114]

There is a 2025 G70 on the US Genesis website, along with 2025 G80. Then 2024 Electric G80 and G90. Then the GV lineup for 2025 lists GV60, GV70, Electric GV70 and the GV80. 2 door coupes sell poorly so most companies aren't willing to waste the development money on them.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

Damn G70 is discontinued for 2025? The G70 literally always felt and even looked like a coupe to me. At 55.1in tall it's quite low and the snug rear seats were something I'd expect in a midsize coupe. I'd like to see a G70 successor and one of the Genesis 2 door concepts go into production for under 100K. Totally buy one of those in a heartbeat

[@SSS-mp8th]

@@tjs114 whatever the current model year 24 or 25 is supposed to be the last according to reports.

[@GlitterGuru]

They’ve teased several coupe concepts - just pick one and produce it already 😂

[@Oversight85]

The rear seats and trunk are the only reason I don’t own a G70 right now, massive oversight by Genesis.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Great update of a very nice car.

[@Rioichi4]

Aside from just preference, is there a reason to choose a trunk over a liftback?

[@billurban1581]

Excellant point. Lift/hatch much more practical. Perhaps a trunk opening aids rigidity, less drumming?

[@elliottmanning4116]

I’d like to see Genesis hide the radar cruise control sensor better in the G80. It’s so obvious.

[@kdbmeb99]

Is the Nappa Leather seating only Available if you get the 3.5T Engine?

[@mattheww7743]

Yes, as part of the Prestige Package ....

[@gladdy02]

Too bad the fuel economy sucks. I wish was a hybrid

[@naveenthemachine]

@@gladdy02 are you really going to freak out about fuel economy in this category?🤣

[@gladdy02]

@@naveenthemachine yes

[@KAYJAYSTUDIOSYT]

​@@naveenthemachineThere are cars IN THIS CLASS that do both fuel economy and performance. Why not complain?

[@lilred1107]

The ES is no comparison to this, this is luxury the ES is more so premium.

[@naveenthemachine]

I wouldn’t call an ES premium

[@gsxellence]

Previous gen looks way better, and G70 is way more sexier than this. Id definitely take the GV80 sport over this.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

Imo they made the interior styling WORSE than before the refresh

[@ayooluwaisaiah]

Genesis has overtaken Lexus in terms of a true Luxury offering in this segment. From the recent refreshes, its clear that they are no longer committed to pursuing perfection. Not even close!

[@naveenthemachine]

Agreed. Now we watch Lexus go out of business

[@zsamps]

Genesis and Lexus aren't really trying to do the same thing, so, therefore, one isn't necessarily better than the other (although in terms of profitability and sales figures, it's clear that Lexus has a broader buyer base). Lexus is doing what it has always done: make luxury models of Toyota vehicles. With their great fuel economy, reputation for reliability, and ease of service, they will always sit near the top with sales figures. Now, of course, Genesis is making some very competitive vehicles and has a strategy of its own: prioritizing luxury and seconding performance. Hopefully, this works out for them over the next few years as they grow their model range and continue producing great vehicles.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@zsamps but Lexus models are not real luxury. Recycling a platform that’s on a $20 or $30K car is inexcusable with the exception that the mainstream platform transcends the segment

[@jorgeguzman8083]

If you fly to Korea and take an uber there, you will see that they've been building rolls Royce style Korean luxury cars for years. South Korea is such an insular market where Korean brands dominate many industries and foreign brands barely exist they just decided to ship them outside South Korea. just don't take your uber from the incheon. it's so far from Seoul and will cost a fortune. you better take a bus.

[@aaronbooth9222]

The door panels don’t look as nice as the pre-refresh model

[@johnphom1136]

Too much chain link fence in the front. Still everything else looks pretty good.

[@beatrixbrennan1545]

For the looks and the 375 hp in the 3.5, I'm 100% SOLD on this car. I'm sad they updated the interior to look like dog shit, but I'm still going to get one, for the powertrain alone.

[@MK-tk8tb]

Thought they did a refresh a few months back?

[@TheMichaelRN]

The coupe

[@trinisuprazee]

My 530i has no spare tire and that's a big risk for me doing the daycare run!!

[@5hunnidCG]

BMW has free roadside assistance just call them and they will come change the tire🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kevikev2.0]

Can't wait for the Genesis G80 Sportbrake and Shooting Brake😏‼️ 😅 😂 🤣 😭

[@adams7534]

Where's the rear seat entertainment package

[@baronvonjo1929]

Talking about all the falws with space and comfort because of its shape just shows why consumers arent buying sedans like they use too. Such impractical vehciles. Style over substance.

[@i.d.6492]

That literally goes for any sedans including lexus and Germans. The sedans obviously not gonna have as much space and sedans and won't fit big families with dogs. Sedans are for 1-3 people maybe 4 that's it. If you have small family or 2 people, it's perfect because it's much cheaper to maintain and fill up gas tank is cheaper. I prefer sedans over SUV any day

[@Jake-t1y]

Acura and Lexus have a lot of catching up to do. But then again, you are paying like 20 plus grand more to get the top of the line g80. Top Lexus es is in the low 50s and Tlx type S in the high 50s. g80 is about 80k. So definitely a huge price jump. As far as looks I think the Acura looks the best but, interior space is horrible. And the Tech is much better in the G80. Lexus is very outdated compared to the other brands. But out of all 3 when it comes to reliability I will give that to the Lexus.

[@naveenthemachine]

Lexus ain’t ever gonna catch up. They’re just too far behind to a point where they have to discontinue the brand just like infiniti almost did.

[@robertehlers3757]

I don't believe that it is accurate to state that Honda and Toyota introduced their new upscale marques with warmed over existing mainstream models. The Legend and the LS400 were designed from scratch to set a new standard for Acura and Lexus. It is true that following models may have been related to Honda and Toyota vehicles, but the top models were never clones of models in the mainstream vehicle lineup, and in the case of the Lexus LS this is still true.

[@naveenthemachine]

But Lexus is no longer relevant They let others surpass them. Now they’re so far behind that no matter what they do they cannot compete with the rest of the pack. They’re fighting a wall with weak assets and constantly losing

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Lexus started with the LS and the ES. The LS was unique, but the best seller in the lineup was the ES which was of course based on an existing Toyota similarly Acura started with the legend and the Integra, the legend was related to a rover 800, but the Integra was related to other existing Honda platforms and was always the better seller… since then, both brands have sold significantly higher volumes in the products related to other mainstream counterparts.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@AAutoBuyersGuide but clearly that was a mistake for Lexus. A gussied up Camry isn’t luxury. If I wanted a gussied up Camry I’d get a top end Camry. And the Integra being related to the civic is fine as the civics a class leader, the benchmark, the vehicle that transcends the mainstream compact sedan segment. That why the Integra can get away with it If a mainstream platform transcends the segment only then is it okay for luxury brands to share platforms. Like the aviator or integra. They can get away with reusing mainstream platforms since they already transcend the segment

[@LafemmebearMusic]

@@naveenthemachineyeah they are struggling so bad with the most reliable luxury vehicles and the HIGHEST SELLING LUXURY MID SIZE SUV OF ALL TIME THE RX… it beats the x5 the mdx the Audi q7… 😅😂😂😂😂yeah they are done for … those sales don’t matter 😂😂😂😂 Yall just say silly passionately incorrect things 😅

[@LafemmebearMusic]

@@naveenthemachineyou’re speaking on too subjective of a topic , far too definitively.

[@nathanwright8616]

they ruined the interior design

[@S2reds]

New wheel > Old wheel New screen > Old "3D" screen

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

Disagree. I do prefer the old DESIGN but the new one has some major benefits IMO. First off the OLED makes these new screens some of the nicest to use and look at in any car. Mercedes Hyperscreen and BMWs latest stuff look cheap when you start using it because it's really obvious at night it's a cheap LCD and the bezels are massive. Genesis did a good job of making the bezels minimal. Second this screen is technically integrated better into the dash in respect to the old center infotainment. Third the new steering wheel is REALLY nice. It's the perfect amount of sportiness and luxury look blended together. Its two tone look and the materials used are perfection. They did get rid of the 3D thing but that's a bit of a gimmick and for a decent amount of people it hurts or bothers to use. A nice OLED and a HUD is better for most people. Fourth the new interior has much improved RGB ambient lighting and is more impressive. Design I do like the old one more but the new interior is still excellent and much better looking than the tacked on BMW screen, or the cheap LCDs in Benz Hyperscreen with massive bezels, or Audis stuff which also has massive bezels and odd shapes/dash like in the all new A5 sedan hatchback thing. This is an excellent interior for 70K

[@ChristianC-gy1ym]

Are you buying this car tho?

[@philhenderson3516]

@@ayushmalpeddi2793 OLED or not, this new screen setup looks cheap and does nothing but mimic what we've already seen from Mercedes and BMW. Prior interior had an artisanal quality to it, much more pleasing to the eyes than this new one...

[@nathanwright8616]

@@ChristianC-gy1ym pfft not anymore 🤨

[@narebman]

Did they do away with the 3D instrument cluster

[@philhenderson3516]

They sure did, unfortunately! This new dual screen setup is cheaper to assemble and looks the part as well... Pre-refresh model interior looked great, there was no need to change it.

[@John.Christopher]

👳‍♂️🧇 wheels! (Couldn't find wind turbine emoji)

[@jimmacmurdo355]

I owned one of the first 2009 models. One of the best cars I've ever had. Got 30 - 32 mpg on the highway. The new ones don't come close to that efficiency.

[@kelzz3000]

I don't know how you manage to get that I averaged 25

[@LafemmebearMusic]

@@kelzz3000he’s lying … and wasn’t calculating it properly. People lie a lot on here lol

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

If genesis is trying to compete with the Germans they failed miserably.

[@naveenthemachine]

Nah. They’re doing a great job. They’re not competing w the high performance ones but genesis is focused on value for the dollar

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

@@naveenthemachine that makes them Acura

[@naveenthemachine]

@@whiteandnerdytuba no they aren’t. Genesis is truly competing by offering an exclusive RWD platform lots of luxury and tech features, good driving dynamics and comfort Acura is sort of close to Genesis but not quite there

[@5hunnidCG]

@@naveenthemachineIf they was doing such a good job they wouldn’t need to discontinue the G70 and they G80/G90 has horrible sales because they can’t outsell the Germans, Japanese or American luxury cars. Soon or later the only thing that will be keeping them a float is Kia/Hyundai cause they won’t be able to refresh the grille but so much and people gonna be buying the same looking vehicle for the next 10 years🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@naveenthemachine]

@@5hunnidCG the Germans are still “better” but remember you’re going to pay significantly more comparably equipped for that little bit better polish in the bmw or Mercedes or Audi

[@Thebusdriverandgamermorefan]

I'm really loved this car and I should buy this.

[@christianx2k]

G80 is much better looking than the GV80 coupe

[@abcap2011]

The new OLED is horrible, like every other company in the industry Genesis follows this trend. The gauge cluster screen is not centered now and the wheel comes in your sight. The old design is better and in better focused position. The new wheel is better than the old anyway. Hopefully Genesis has solved some issues in this new model, like the rattling sunroof 😢.

[@i.d.6492]

Have you sat inside this vehicle? Obviously not. Stop making shit up

[@abcap2011]

@@i.d.6492 very funny, I own 2021, 2.5t , and I sit inside the new model in the showroom recently and I saw the difference in the position of the screen comparing to the old one (21-23) and I didn’t like it and that is my opinion about the car, and if you don’t like stop commenting like a shit you are too, as if you own the company or as if you are the one who designed the car. When people will stop being so stupid in commenting and be a bit smart and accept other’s opinion.?!

[@mattheww7743]

@@i.d.6492 Have you ??? I bought my 2024 G80 in July because I HATE this new design. My opinion, and u need to quit being an a$$

[@111danish111]

Great car hideous wheels.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

Pretty damn mediocre.

[@naveenthemachine]

Says the Hyundai hating grandpa 😂why don’t you just get with the times already?

[@i.d.6492]

Wish they've kept V8 at least as an option

[@mattheww7743]

Me too, but between the production numbers and EPA mileage requirements, it's not gonna happen ...

[@i.d.6492]

@@mattheww7743 not only that. They obviously jumping on the ev bandwagon like the rest

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Not realistic and these are all more powerful drivetrain’s

[@Edward-wd5gl]

Hard to believe-the wheels are uglier than the car👎🤢

[@naveenthemachine]

Rest in peace Lexus. Genesis has objectively ended them. It’s safe to say Alex that Lexus ostensibly no longer exists. The less said about Lexus the better. Do us a favor Alex and don’t bother wasting your time reviewing Lexus products anymore. They’re all too mediocre and they’re just uncompetitive

[@ALMX5DP]

I think as long as they are selling to the general public in decent numbers it makes sense to continue reviewing them. It’s not about good or bad, but reviewing products that people are spending their money on.

[@naveenthemachine]

But what’s the point of reviewing a mediocre car? Doesn’t matter if it sells The Mitsubishi mirage surprisingly sells well but Alex never reviewed it and for good reason: it’s dreadful in every aspect Same thing applies to Lexus. Theres a good reason they’re considered the Mitsubishi Mirage of luxury brands If I were Alex and asked to review a Lexus I’d take it and garage it for a week and pretend that I forgot to review it because let’s be honest: I could spend the time I would have allocated to review a Lexus on something more interesting and attention worthy

[@lucashuang10]

Lexus is best selling Asian brand man. Genesis is what infiniti and Acura need to worry. Your statement of Lexus products are not competitive is not valid if your never drive one or own one. I have a 2020 Genesis g90 ultimate and I can tell you it’s not better than my 13 LS460L that I had. The G90 is quieter but LS460 had better ride and stiffer build quality. Both brand are extremely competitive and competition are good to bring better of company that benefits us consumers. Let me ask you. What car you drive?

[@ALMX5DP]

@@naveenthemachine I made the point clear. It absolutely matters if it sells because that is what is popular or at least getting people’s hard earned money so would be a disservice not to cover such a product to highlight what is good and bad about it.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@lucashuang10nah. Lexus isn’t. They outsell Alfa Romeo Porsche and bmw but does that make them more fun or more luxurious or more customizable or more comfortable or more powerful? No it doesn’t