I'm beyond happy with my '23 Si. It's such a fun car to drive on the twisty backroads here in Tennessee.
@SepticEmpire3 ай бұрын
The civic brothers strike again Uploading at the same time?? YOU CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS *shaking fist in air*
@v12kingV103 ай бұрын
A bunch of civic advertisements
@matthewle13 ай бұрын
Substitute Topher is always good to watch, similar to the actual Topher, the review style is very consistent. Very good TheTopher!
@Rhinss3 ай бұрын
Have had mine for about a month now and I'm in love. Everything I wanted it to be and I enjoy driving it every day!
@CarAddictUK3 ай бұрын
Whoever came up with that audible shift indicator has some explaining to do
@TheTopher3 ай бұрын
That is annoying, you should be able to turn that off, you can in the Type R.
@オルフェーヴルの夫3 ай бұрын
@@CarAddictUK >UK Hello saar please do the needfull saar
@rhoma4593 ай бұрын
You can turn it off through the infotainment screen
@EmmanuelJaspe-sg8cu3 ай бұрын
@@TheTopherI am a big fan of
@EmmanuelJaspe-sg8cu3 ай бұрын
@@TheTopherI am a big fan
@duck0nsumquack6353 ай бұрын
just got my 22 Civic Si, with 29k miles.. i wish it came with the full digital gauge cluster like they get everywhere else BUT the states, but it is what it is. still drives amazing
@luisramirez-or5vg3 ай бұрын
I do wish that the Si could have come in a hatchback
@Jmarzx3 ай бұрын
God damn how many ppl gonna say this ; 🤣 as if it will happen it wont lets be honest same for a civic coupe it just wont happen again
@faheemabbas39653 ай бұрын
It does in Japan. It’s called the Civic RS over there.
@Azkeroth3 ай бұрын
It's called the Integra 😅
@adrianswan36433 ай бұрын
@@Azkerothliterally people forget about this all the time and it had heated seats when it came out
@AdamC66363 ай бұрын
I test drove the 24 Civic Sport Touring Hatch yesterday, check it out
@louiszhang30503 ай бұрын
I may never forgive Honda for NPCing the Accord, but they cooked with this generation of Civic. I pray 12th gen is not going to be all hybrid CVTs. The Civic Si is definitely one of my favourite cars on the market at any price right now.
@Senko18003 ай бұрын
0:04 i LOVE this sound effects , so many memories
@faheemabbas39653 ай бұрын
The Civic Si is sold in Japan as a hatchback, the “Civic RS”.
@billwylde48463 ай бұрын
No LSD and less power in Japan's Civic RS. That RS trim is more Sport touring than Si.
@TheImperfectGuy3 ай бұрын
The Civic Si is not sold at all in Europe Hybrid or Type R that's all on the offer
@ExiledVessel3 ай бұрын
That gray is the least puddy of the puddy colors when it's in the light. I do wish they offered more variety of paint options for the Si.
@jordangordon23503 ай бұрын
Honda seems to be the only manufacturer committed to an extremely practical, affordable, fun, manual daily driver
@Jean-FrancoisHughes3 ай бұрын
so true! people who would like to see the SI with much more power dont get the point of this car
@jordangordon23503 ай бұрын
@@Jean-FrancoisHughes yep. With more power comes less reliability, worse mpg and the inability to drive it hard on the street
@louiszhang30503 ай бұрын
@@Jean-FrancoisHughes Right? They probably never drove an Si in their lives. This is probably the most capable Si they've ever made from a purely performance perspective (yes, even including the 8th gen)
@gregblack85503 ай бұрын
@@louiszhang3050oh you will get some disagreement from that but you are 100 percent correct. This new si is just about perfect.
@rtygrest3 ай бұрын
Mazda and Toyota have good ones
@pngigiwaweru94993 ай бұрын
Spell CIVIC backwards, you still get civic. Love this car❤❤❤
@AbnormalAppeal3 ай бұрын
I’m going to learn manual so I can purchase this car, can’t wait
@hectorflores12743 ай бұрын
Just got this car on Friday in black and I’ve been loving it 😍
@raymondamoroso20493 ай бұрын
How's the rev-hang? I have a '20 and it's the only year that has problems with disabling it with the KT😭
@hectorflores12743 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve heard the rev hang is pretty bad that generation. Rev gang on the 2025 is non existent in the lower rpms but I have yet to test around redline since I have to break it in but it was noticeable in the ‘22+ only in the around redline
@bcamchow3 ай бұрын
@@raymondamoroso2049I’ve owned a 2024 si since the beginning of this year and the rev hang is far better than the 10th gen model but you can definitely notice some still especially is higher rpm. When I go to high rpm and shift to another gear I do leave my foot on the clutch just a little longer so that way the revs drop and it’s a smooth transition
@hectorflores12743 ай бұрын
@@bcamchow yeah I’ve heard, supposedly form reviews, the ‘25 si has noticeably better rev hang then the ‘22 but it’s still present. I wouldn’t know yet, I have 100 miles on the dash 😭
@bcamchow3 ай бұрын
@@hectorflores1274you get used to it ! It’s really not THAT bad but I can see how it may be annoying to some people. But congrats on your new car !
@ultraboost94003 ай бұрын
Man, if this had 30 more HP I would be so happy
@ayzoterik3 ай бұрын
True, that's about what that car needs + about the same amount in torque.
@chaz96753 ай бұрын
very easy to due with literally just a ktuner basemap, but that can void warranty if you care about that
@lKRISPY3 ай бұрын
@@chaz9675I had TSP stage 1 and man that turned the car into a baby type-R. Not just the HP, but the powerband as well were amazing
@James-t3c3 ай бұрын
@@chaz9675You’ll need the warranty. These 1.5’s are awful.
@oppos7273 ай бұрын
@@James-t3cI’ve ragged on mine with a KTuner + TSP combo for almost 40k miles now (95% of the time in the most aggressive Map 3). Zero signs of issues with the clutch or powertrain but I’ll be the first to find out if that’s the case. Dealers haven’t mentioned a peep about it so far either. And by hard driving, I mean banging off the limiter pretty much each and every drive.
@adk79623 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great drive. Probably the best affordable daily driver for an enthusiast. Thanks again!
@ElectricusTus3 ай бұрын
I'd argue that the hatch is more practical. The bigger opening and higher ceiling in the back means you can hold larger items inside. I'm nitpicking, but I drove an Avalon for years that could barely fit a bicycle inside despite being enormous.
@TopherDrives3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah the hatch is great. I can lay completely flat in the back of an 11th gen hatch (with the seats down) at 5’11” 😭
@spunkush3 ай бұрын
Exactly, a tailgate is why small crossovers are taking over. We need more hatchbacks damnit.
@FerrariTeddy3 ай бұрын
@@spunkushexactly, and estate cars too! (Aka Station Wagons) When I was young I knew someone with an old basic Mercedes station wagon and you could fit anything in that thing! They carpeted the whole back area and installed a metal gate with a door behind the front seats, kind of like a cop car, and the entire back of it was like a padded area for all their dogs or a great place to sleep. Their dogs LOVED that car, they had a damn football field to run around in and play with their toys
@spunkush3 ай бұрын
@@FerrariTeddy yah I like my 17' Impreza hatchback for its use. Fit my dog in the back and can haul as much as a Crosstrek. But I get the low center of gravity and light car benefits.
@chaz96753 ай бұрын
As someone with a lot of seat time in both hatch and sedan, the extra hatch size is not actually very usable to the point why I wonder why they even designed it the way it is. However, it does provide a lot more headroom for the back seats but that's about it.
@popcee5263 ай бұрын
easter egg, the wheels have “Si” on them !
@alpe62283 ай бұрын
the Si should come with the k20c4.
@Aki_Lesbrinco3 ай бұрын
100% Agreed. At this point in time, price and with the available competition, this should have a 2.0 turbo. Maybe just with less boost and weaker turbo than a Type R
@James-t3c3 ай бұрын
I agree. 1.5 is awful.
@alpe62283 ай бұрын
@@Aki_Lesbrinco yeah it's called the k20c4 lol,it was in the accord as well(2022-)
@nathangriffin20273 ай бұрын
awesome - was looking forward to a '25 update video. Front end and wheels are not as objectionable as I thought. Be thankful for overcast days - makes everything 'pop' with much better color and even lighting.
@Haik-to-the-o3 ай бұрын
Great review
@ethanstafford42123 ай бұрын
I absolutely love that Honda is still building a quality manual - sad it got dropped for the hatch, especially since most of the hatches in my area seemed to be manual :/. One thing I found when I drove the Si: the highway gearing seems to have it revving a bit higher than I’d like, wondering if it could be even better on gas if sixth was a little taller
@fhblake043 ай бұрын
Honda added rear air vents to the Accord. Now it’s time for the Civic.
@BoomerLicks2 ай бұрын
Love that color. Very classy and goes well with the interior.
@alexp64093 ай бұрын
I love my ‘24. The only thing I wish I had from the ‘25 is the ability to remove the fake engine noise via the infotainment.
@ytj223 ай бұрын
Can it be removed all together? Or just turned down to a lower volume?
@robob2213 ай бұрын
@@ytj22you can unplug a thingy. Pretty simple, look it up!
@genotsSnor3 ай бұрын
Isn't it nice when company’s listen to what people want?
@keithjackson49853 ай бұрын
They shouldn't have gotten rid of the heated seats in the first place?
@v12kingV103 ай бұрын
they sell coupes?
@2015BLOXXER3 ай бұрын
@@v12kingV10they stopped selling them :(
@v12kingV103 ай бұрын
@@2015BLOXXER yup so a bunch of lame crossovers and 2 sedans. Sad
@James-t3c3 ай бұрын
Still same weak clutch. No coupes. No increase in power No heated seats Still crappy 1.5 Honda has not listened.
@norseman22973 ай бұрын
Live in Franklin it's such a nice area, just crazy how low performance the si is now compared to when they had the vtec.
@walterwhite64903 ай бұрын
same exact performance my guy💀 if anything the new si’s perform better, vtec is just way more fun, not actually more efficient
@Blackdawn803 ай бұрын
I'm still not convinced about the hatch. In fact, the CTR should have been a sedan. I think the sedan looks so much better and reminds me of the FD2 from 06-10(US FA5)
@scottnewellguitar3 ай бұрын
The primer clearcoat trend is beyond tired at this point.
@chones_3 ай бұрын
i mean the shift lights and heated seats were on previous the canadian edition Si. So not really Type R per se but Americans are now getting what the Canadians got from the get go.
@mikeolson75573 ай бұрын
Love the cleaned up styling and the pricing!
@anthonys6657Ай бұрын
I’ve been enjoying my ‘24 Integra 6MT. Fun cars are these!
@area8593 ай бұрын
Did Honda resolve the 1.5 liter turbo oil dilution issue??
@gs989993 ай бұрын
So they just brought the Canadian version over from past few years and called it updated?
@brandonwilson272 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the classic Civic Si rev hang...it wouldn't be the same without it at this point!
@evanbotelho50473 ай бұрын
Heck yeah. Just in time for lunch
@JoshuaPlays993 ай бұрын
Honda is just killing it with the 11th gen, do wish there was a manual option for the lower trims though.
@ArchAngel_MMA2 ай бұрын
just realized this wasn't actually "TheTopher" you guys must be related. Even the way you articulate yourselves is eerily similar 😆
@bonezb11923 ай бұрын
I think the 8th gen was the best SI of all time. I love smashing on mine and hearing that vtec @ 8000rpm
@shinski81142 ай бұрын
i agree. i see 8th and 9th gens everywhere still. love the body style on the 8th gens
@amigoandgringoАй бұрын
Loved mine. Had a base tune that let it rip to 8700rpms. It was incredible.
@CarGeek3603 ай бұрын
Best new car for $30k imo, I don’t see what’s not to like
@dg74383 ай бұрын
A hondata tune and a new exhaust would be the cherry on top
@StoutK20_DHG2 ай бұрын
I have the 2024 si and i love it just need a tune...
@garyross74963 ай бұрын
Love watching the Revs stick when you let the clutch off 🙄
@ThePower10373 ай бұрын
The piped in sound sounds like a mixture between high timing and a light ping. Makes me feel like something is wrong.
@rtygrest3 ай бұрын
Franklin, a gorgeous area!
@fmifu4100Ай бұрын
I don't know why this didn't come in blue, electron blue and vivid blue pearl made the em1 and ep3 iconic
@ponderingfox3 ай бұрын
I think there’s still a few things that the Integra has over the Si, like the hatch and some premium features.
@scottanthony34263 ай бұрын
Oh, they put the heated seats back. I think they were actually still included with the Canadian version, but stripped in the US. Maybe supply chain issues. Save the manuals. Save the spare tires too. Not a fan of the repair kit, which has limits to what can be repaired. Some of us drive in areas with poor cell coverage and hours long waits for AAA. The aftermarket does make some spare kits. Seems Honda first ditched spares with the hybrids, as perhaps the battery pack ate that space. Now perhaps they all come off the line with space for a battery (if they are making it to a hybrid) and the spare went away. They did same in the CRV and Accord hybrids. Somehow, Toyota managed to keep the spare in the '25 Camry, even with AWD.
@Sneakyboson2 ай бұрын
What is with cars not coming with spares anymore. Seems like a terrible idea.
@johnmpifer3 ай бұрын
That was a practiced Toph impression , though you need to work on the shifting! It was cool seeing you drive on my home turf (I’m a few miles away from the NTP in Dickson, TN, and I take my 2024 Elantra N there frequently). Nice job! Though, as someone else has already mentioned, for the same money (less than 30 grand), I’d pick the WRX.
@TopherDrives3 ай бұрын
It’s hard to shift this thing fast & smooth with the still existent rev hang. You can definitely shift it smoother but you’ve gotta accept the granny shift 🤣 No matter how I shifted the car I would’ve had people critiquing it, so whatever. haha
@johnmpifer3 ай бұрын
@@TopherDrives I think it’s just the fact that Topher is just very talented at shifting a manual transmission, and I always marvel at that when I watch his videos. I am not nearly that smooth when trying to shift quickly. I can shift pretty seamlessly, but I have to slow down my shifting to do so…especially on the 1-2 shift in the Elantra N. The engagement point is very close to the floor compared with cars I’ve had in the past, where the clutch didn’t engage until the pedal was almost all the way out.
@ultraboost94003 ай бұрын
Insurance is 300 a month more for the WRX at least for me which was a deal breaker
@johnmpifer3 ай бұрын
@@ultraboost9400 That’s not the fault of the WRX. It’s a faster car that’s known more as a performance car. Insurance rates are more a function of your driving record, your age, and your credit profile. I pay about $120/mo for my Elantra N. But I’m in my 40s with no tickets or wrecks.
@BDA05313 ай бұрын
@@ultraboost9400 Thats your problem. I pay $150 a month full coverage on my WRX
@Boostedbrandon053 ай бұрын
They should bring back the coupe. I love my 2007 civic fg2. Last good civic ever made.
@mando183 ай бұрын
Side not this is straight asmr.
@JDMluvDSMkila3 ай бұрын
i feel like were going back in time...not even a 6500 rpm redline is criminal in a honda
@colemancampbell19083 ай бұрын
No spare tire is rather annoying, same with the center console armrest, cool car though.
@JiggyTcg3 ай бұрын
Other topher does have a very similar cadence to regular topher
@gladdy023 ай бұрын
They added NVH?
@Cut.2TheChase3 ай бұрын
You’re right next to my house in Franklin! Right next to the big bridge
@bkhavityoway233 ай бұрын
i wish the face was that nice gloss black, and im not entirely fond of the new wheels. But other than that, sharp car!
@HueyPNathan3 ай бұрын
The vents they included on the front bumper look great & they should have matched them with the rear kinda like on some Toyota models. Also I miss the fog lights idc how bright Honda claims the headlights to be the Si deserves fog lights. I’m hoping an aftermarket company gives us a bumper that will include fog lights for the 11th gen Si. Other than that great updates for the 2025 model
@gambit_toys65542 ай бұрын
Bring back electron blue pearl
@SewerGang3 ай бұрын
not a fan of the newer body but i do wish i had this interior on my 20’
@alphabeta84033 ай бұрын
4:20 That 1.5t won’t last 250k trouble free miles like the older Si motors. Should’ve used a detuned 2.0t CTR motor instead, pumping out 250 HP. 6:00 New infotainment 12:00 Sport mode 21:30 Build quality
@shinski81142 ай бұрын
yeah small liter motors and turbos do not mix well. Ask ford.
@toma34473 ай бұрын
I can’t really hear the turbo! Is it like this on all newer turbo civics. I’m either getting the turbo SI or the won with the K24. Which one do you like better?
@SyrupCanuck2 ай бұрын
What kind of mpgs would this get on highways especially 70 miles plus? Would it be a good Commuter?
@AFatOcelot3 ай бұрын
No "Si" on the steering wheel is criminal
@deadbacon86063 ай бұрын
did the canadian spec already have the glass gauge with the side info? (engine temp and gas)
@sickhcivc3 ай бұрын
So is the type r updated too? Would love to know the difference
@unnikrishnanraveendrannair54083 ай бұрын
is it possible to get updates for the rev match from the 2nd gear to the 1st for 2022 Civic si, our models do have rev match but not for the 1st gear if I'm not wrong.
@jackj35423 ай бұрын
I wish they had more options, like automatic, seat choice,colors. It’s an all in one package.
@juelz45163 ай бұрын
I like the color
@bwright19913 ай бұрын
Can the shift beep be turned off? That's my only complaint.
@Grafyte3 ай бұрын
7:29 small first world problem though: you can't put vent based air fresheners in them
@dylanetsitty56973 ай бұрын
ALL models be making the same horsepower, 200HP, the hybrid Civic makes the same. Need an “ACTUAL” SI, and up up up the Type R’s performance
@shinski81142 ай бұрын
the type r is the new si the si is just a civic exl at this point
@12yroldboy3 ай бұрын
Still has that classic civic rev hang.
@raymundamansec3 ай бұрын
I still wish we had this in the Philippines. 😢
@bretthallett6598Ай бұрын
Is there anyway to disable the shifting alarm?
@bkhavityoway233 ай бұрын
Not sure about the reliability on the 1.5T either but hey they continue to throw it in models including this (which will get beat with the high revving and shifting)
@shinski81142 ай бұрын
dont expect 200k with almost zero manintence anymore. This looks like they slapped a turbo on a r18. Ill always take NA over force induction.
@edwinleung98833 ай бұрын
When will FL5 gets its facelift?
@DaveedPlus3 ай бұрын
I wish they would put the shift lights in the ITS
@AnilPrabha3 ай бұрын
Wish we had this in Malaysia.
@MrEOrtiz12343 ай бұрын
is it possible to get the interior without any or minimal red ? or possibly replace with blue interior?
@nathangriffin20273 ай бұрын
I guess you can do whatever you want with that red interior once you buy it.
@alexp64093 ай бұрын
Katzkin makes kits for it.
@boyangyu76553 ай бұрын
Is rev hang still bad?
@alexp64093 ай бұрын
Only if you are revving it out. I really don’t notice it at all during normal daily driving.
@CBW03143 ай бұрын
Which is faster: 12' BMW 128i or 25' Civic Si?
@Jmarzx3 ай бұрын
Lmaooo bro 😂u know the answer to that
@CBW03143 ай бұрын
@@Jmarzx is it the bimmer?
@v12kingV103 ай бұрын
exactly a 13 year old bmw is faster than this.
@CBW03143 ай бұрын
@@v12kingV10 wow that’s sad 😞
@Jmarzx3 ай бұрын
@@CBW0314 definitely lol by easily 40-50 hp
@rikhilmeisuria78133 ай бұрын
is this a good car to learn manual with or just stay with civic sport instead
@shinski81142 ай бұрын
civics are the easiest cars to learn manual
@antoinelee-thomas95363 ай бұрын
@Honda really needs to crank up the horsepower and torque on this car. It's been far too long that the MK8 Golf GTI with the last manual transmission for its 2024MY at 243hp, the Jetta GLI with its secondary refresh now still at 228hp and the out going Forte GT with 201hp and 195lb-ft of tq with its manual transmission have been tearing Honda up. Yes, the Civic Si was never about horsepower wars like the S550/S650 gen Mustangs, Alpha platform 5th/6th gen Camaros and the LX platform Challenger and Charger brothers, but in all honesty, the Civic Si really needs to be pushing 230-240hp like the AP1 and AP2 S2000s used to be and give it at least 215-225lb-ft of tq to be the true second most powerful Civic in the lineup over the Civic Hybrid and over its competition now that the MK8.5 Golf GTI is only DCT for the 2025MY (and the 2026MY) as this will be the final gen Golf cars ever built including the MK8.5 Golf R too, the secondary refresh Jetta GLI, and the new Kia K4. Staying stagnant at 200hp and 192lb-ft of tq is not a good look for Honda themselves and the Civic Si community. I get it. You can modify it if you want more power, but why ruin the warranty when it should come heavily performed out of the assembly plant line with the warranty?
@darealestwon3 ай бұрын
I thought the 1.5 L turbo didn’t have VTEC. Am I mistaken?
@vvevvevvvv3 ай бұрын
VTEC is on the exhaust cam only, I think.
@babisotonggg3 ай бұрын
how is this car compared to the likes of Hyundai Elantra N line/Sport turbo
@DoSum4Me3 ай бұрын
I drove a 2023 Civic Si in Toronto for a few hours and I’m pretty sure it rev matched 2-1 for me… but I could be lying idk lol
@DoSum4Me3 ай бұрын
@1_helper-PST I’m pretty sure it did
@LondonHasFallin3 ай бұрын
They should make a 2 door version again.
@ivan-gv3qs3 ай бұрын
Having to look at the 10th gen coupes because I want a coupe SI lol
@leecm3 ай бұрын
Bummer you didn't drive under the Natchez Trace bridge.
@joshuajernigan36033 ай бұрын
Did you get that from Darrell Waltrip Honda?
@jamessignorile71103 ай бұрын
Added NVH? It's even worse than a regular Civic?
@nathangriffin20273 ай бұрын
That part of the review I don't get. Did he really mean added NVH (not reduced)?
@shaggythisisntweed89703 ай бұрын
i wish they mad the civic a lift back, 2 or 4 door hatchback. I also wish they'd ditch the 1.5T for a 2.4 NA like a k24a2
@Aki_Lesbrinco3 ай бұрын
They probably don't produce the 2.4 anymore.
@artemlobov42393 ай бұрын
How do these compare to the base wrx?
@nbain6628 күн бұрын
Better gas milage and better handling, but slower in a straight line.
@jayczyzyk97073 ай бұрын
The wrx much faster but suspension is not well engineered to last same with gti
@thimble2883 ай бұрын
Doesn't sound bad either thankfully
@michaeldaley42742 ай бұрын
Once you shift there’s no need to keep your hand on the shifter.!
@ClutchTaster3 ай бұрын
Wish they would come in an interior color that didn't include red.