2025 Honda NT1100 - A better Tourer now? All the key changes detailed

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@BlackBirdieGolf 5 күн бұрын

I love the blue also! Great review!

@davidz8 Ай бұрын

Looks like Honda have really been listening to people's feedback, It looks a good alternative to the BMW RT.

@Jungleland33 Ай бұрын

Honda couldn't care less about listening to customers' feedback. If they did, they would have introduced shaft drive. 1000s have been screaming for a 450 Rally now for years......guess what ?...... no 450 Rally. Honda only does what IT wants to do. And this is from a lifelong Honda fan.

@geofftoscano6804 Ай бұрын

@@Jungleland33 I’ve got a BMW RT1250 and I’ve just ordered a 2025 model NT1100. I wish it had been around when I changed from a Yamaha FJR1300 to the RT! Let’s talk shaft drive. RT needs lubing and oil change at 12000 miles. It needs constant checking. It depends on two rubber boots that are susceptible to ingress of dust and water. And it gets replaced at 36000 miles for the life of the bike, regardless of ownership! Not much more than a chain. The RT was £22000 in April 2021 and I’ve recently been offered £9500 trade in. I’m keeping the RT to protect some of my investment but the Honda makes more sense in almost every way as a two up tourer…..it’s now got bigger panniers than the RT, incidentally.

@dannyjacquitighe3880 Ай бұрын

I have a 2023 NT 1100 DCT and I love it . I was in Blade Honda in Stratford on Avon and Carl the sales man was showing me the new model on his lap top which will be at motorcycle live so I will be interested in the new model when its released and definitely in blue . I have toured Spain and Portugal and also done a week in France . I ride my bike most weekends and I can’t fault it .

@KiwiMoto72 Ай бұрын

Mate - i wish they would bring here to the US. I love to get it a run!

@mancavemoto 5 күн бұрын

I heard today that it’s hitting the US next summer

@KiwiMoto72 5 күн бұрын

@@mancavemoto whoa - really?! i will ask around

@ArmoredCow 4 күн бұрын

@@mancavemoto don't you do that. Don't you give me hope.

@mancavemoto 2 күн бұрын

It came straight from the Horses mouth. i was on the European launch this week

@KiwiMoto72 2 күн бұрын

@@mancavemoto oh nice - I guess I will need to poke around about over ere

@philipfisher4244 Ай бұрын

The thing that put me off the 2022 was the exposed wires hanging out the underside of the TFT. Hopefully Honda have redesigned the casing to hide these from exposure and the riders view.

@debbieclegg2485 Ай бұрын

Good to know the Honda specials respond to feedback 👍.. another great vid Tony 💯

@AuldhannRua Ай бұрын

As the owner of a 2024 DCT model, the electronic suspension alone is enough for me to consider upgrading

@NicoVandevenne Ай бұрын

I just put in my order :) Starting to bike again after 15 years. With this machine as a starter, what can go wrong from the mega cruiser that I am :)

@fsicakyuz Ай бұрын

Great pre-review! Can't wait to see full review soon.🎉

@ferguscawley11 Ай бұрын

Excellent video as always Tony

@johnwicks4936 27 күн бұрын

We want these in Canada!

@TheDervMan Ай бұрын

They've certainly improved the looks, I'd always dismissed this bike as it looked so dull. I could see myself on one of these now.

@johnanderson9735 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. Honda is not really listening though because this bike is not available in North America!

@1990-t1j Ай бұрын

A shaft would add a lot of weight. Nothing wrong with chains... or belts, as long as they aren't Buell belts. I like the new screen. I think it's a good-looking bike, too. Good panniers. I wouldn't want this bike, though. Nick

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

Agreed, it doesn't need it.

@billboring3925 9 күн бұрын

@@1990-t1j I have a new Japanese over 1 leader, sport touring bike that has chain drive when I go on long trips I do not take that bike. I take the BMW R 1250 RT because it has shaft drive. I don’t feel like cleaning and lubing chain maintenance every seven 800 miles. And that’s depending on whether it’s raining or not it could be less. long distance riding I truly prefer prefer shaft drive that’s why the gold wings has shaft drive. I prefer a lighter bike, a more nimble bike than the gold wing.

@billboring3925 Ай бұрын

I actually think if Honda would’ve put shaft drive on this bike it would actually take sales away from BMW R1300RT a lot of older people would love that bike, but they don’t want to deal with chain maintenance. You’ve got everything else on this bike now except for that that would put this bike at the top of the category for a touring bike is not as heavy as a gold wing, but it would sell really well in the US. For a powerhouse motorcycle company is big and his fantastic as Honda is they shouldn’t have any trouble putting shaft drive to this motorcycle. It would make the world a difference. I know I would buy it if I had it because I have a shaft bike now, but I wanna replace it Honda if they had shaft, I buy it.

@thomasm.bettini7367 Ай бұрын

Great video, thx 🙏 👍. The new NT looks like a “little” Goldwing … 🤷‍♂️

@darrenwigington3942 Ай бұрын

But why can you only get the electronic suspension with DCT ?? I would serially consider the NT1100 with the ES but not with DCT

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

Maybe it will come as a later model, much like on the Africa Twin?

@grahamhawthorn2320 Ай бұрын

Excellent review.

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@mickleblade Ай бұрын

I'm not convinced about the indicators, time will tell if they're really visible to the cagers

@mancavemoto 29 күн бұрын

Obviously I've not seen them 'in action' but I assume they'll be nice and bright. to a driver they shouldnt look any different to stalks

@markkuijper1802 Ай бұрын

Hand adjusted screen is nice. New engine mapping and 6-axis IMU too. Rest is easily solved on the old version with some aftermarket stuff. Missing one thing though. How about WIRELESS carplay ? (also easily fixed by aftermarket dongle)

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

Yep wireless carplay should definitely feature by now

@medpanosp 26 күн бұрын

Less scooterlike front and a frunk would be a deal breaker!!!

@marct9587 2 сағат бұрын

How is the engine vibration through the handle bar grips, foot pegs, and seat on this bike?

@hawkt2448 28 күн бұрын

Why does Honda not import this bike to the US? I really would be interested in this bike

@mancavemoto 5 күн бұрын

They will be hitting the US in May 2025!

@kennethreynolds8 Ай бұрын

I hope it comes to the US.

@BlackBirdieGolf 27 күн бұрын

Nope, they want us to keep buying the Goldwing 😅

@kennethreynolds8 12 күн бұрын

@@BlackBirdieGolf darn I want one I'm not buy the wing so I'll move along.

@BlackBirdieGolf 12 күн бұрын

@kennethreynolds8 I'm looking at the Yamaha tracer 2025. The wing is just to big. I did see online they were making a Goldwing 1200 but that's bs lol

@andygeorge6065 Ай бұрын

Has the DCT still been instructed to shift into 6th as fast as it can, so the bike labours like a bugger? Is there some adjustability to that, outside of "Dont use it, use a sports mode instead"? Mine in DRIVE gets to 6th super-quick, and even when passing, if you leave the box alone, it doesnt shift down when you grab a handful, leaving the bike to Jack Hammer its way past the offending bus...

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

DCT in the D mode always shifts to a higher gear as soon as possible. Its said to offer the most economical performance. I use that when using big A-Roads, motorways and through towns etc. I then switch to Sport II for all other riding. It shouls drop a gear if you accelerate hard, or indeed you can just manually flick down one or two gears.

@MatBettinson Ай бұрын

I had an Africa Twin DCT, it was the same. Completely shit, I don't care what they say about efficiency, it's not right when your bike judders because it's in some stupidly high gear. Seems like an odd thing for them to do, but I guess they're chasing some econ/emissions figure?

@a.r.t.4611 Ай бұрын

Much improved, but the screen should be electric. They've done that on the Guzzi Stelvio. It's not hard to Honda.

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

I think that would be coming in a future update. Personally, it wouldn't bother me.. A electric screen adds more weight, complexity and cost

@petroosabdollahian1648 27 күн бұрын

nice video, what are the competition for Honda?

@mancavemoto 20 күн бұрын

I would say its main rivals would be the Suzuki GSX-1000GX, the new Kawasaki Versys 1100, Yamaha Tracer 9, BMW R1250RT and Ducati Multistrada V2?

@petroosabdollahian1648 20 күн бұрын

@@mancavemoto thanks for info,

@ContextIQ Ай бұрын

Do you know if it has tyre pressure sensors? I can't find that. 🙏🏻💪🏻😎

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

Not as standard, as theres not sign of them on the accessory list at the moment either.

@ContextIQ Ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto Unbelievable... pretty basic things are still missing in such a touring bike.

@travelinben1966 Ай бұрын

Nice.Shaft drive would have made it nicer.

@IanTed Ай бұрын

And added a lot of weight and sapped power..

@travelinben1966 Ай бұрын

@@IanTed Need more power? Buy a Busa.👌

@dragoclarke9497 Ай бұрын

10000 miles on mine and chain adjusted once. I just clean it with a rag and a squirt of WD40 once a week. More reliable and less costly than the shaft on my two BMWs.

@travelinben1966 Ай бұрын

@@dragoclarke9497 Fair enough.

@carlosalonso9866 Ай бұрын

Would be interesting to see to which extent it overlaps with the 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sports with the 19” front wheel. Same engine, same chassis…

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

Indeed, that was one of my thoughts. The IMU and screen are big improvements. IF your realistically no going 'off-road' this will be all you need and will save you a few thousand compared to the ATAS?

@carlosalonso9866 Ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto That's true, mind you my interest for the AT doesn't stem from any serious off-road aspirations but from the simple fact that some of the roads where I ride are in an pitiful state. What interests me most is to see how the difference will be handling wise, as the gap between the respective front wheels has diminished from 21-17 to 19-17 inches.

@ddarkd3vil674 Ай бұрын

regarding DCT or manual (clutch) , is it making that much of a difference in driving experience? Which one is more recommended?

@dragoclarke9497 Ай бұрын

I've got the previous version with the DCT gearbox, done 10,000 miles in 9 months of riding and wouldn't want to go back to a manual box. I will say that if you just take it for a one hour test ride you'll probably not enjoy the DCT but if you can get a half or full day on it then you will appreciate what an amazing set up it is.

@mancavemoto 16 күн бұрын

I love the DCT system, an absolute joy to ride

@jimporter Ай бұрын

The £6000 Forza 350 has an electric screen. They have just announced an updated £11000 Forza 750 which has an electric screen. They managed to put a nob on there £14000 New Touring Era NT1100, well done Honda, well done. Could you not find anywhere to put another switch? Did they listen to their customers? Sort of, however most of the changes made have been made to improve Hondas manufacturing efficiency. Not sure about the inboard integrated indicators/DRLs that Honda describe as “improved visibility to pedestrians” personally I would rather they would work for vehicles looking at your bike from the front. OK they’re not the always on just start flashing type but they are very close to the centre of the bike and don’t appear to show much from the front view. Hopefully Honda offer some stalk ones as add-ons or make it easy for after market to work with the Canbus as personally I would like my indicator to be one of the first things an oncoming car can see when I am following another vehicle. Note how Honda don’t show them on in many front on shots, seriously do any of their designers, or accountants, actually ride bikes! Overall though it has improved and is probably still one of the best choices for actually touring (sans the shaft).

@mancavemoto 20 күн бұрын

Another switch (and motor etc etc) i prefer a manual screen with less weight and less to go wrong. Not sure drivers would notice any difference in the indicators compared to stalks in a real worls scenario?

@Coco-eg7vy Ай бұрын

The only reason to prefer a RT now is the adaptative Cruise control...and it is a very very expensive argument

@di1301 Ай бұрын

Just engine sound of RT kills the all package

@BlackBirdieGolf 27 күн бұрын

Any news on the 2025 Goldwing?

@mancavemoto 27 күн бұрын

Not yet

@BlackBirdieGolf 27 күн бұрын

@@mancavemoto any rumors?

@mancavemoto 9 күн бұрын

none so far, but i'm out with Honda on a launch next week, so i'll do some digging.

@BlackBirdieGolf 9 күн бұрын

@mancavemoto pls do and ask them why they dont sell the nt1100 in the US? That bike would sell like hotcakes here

@mancavemoto 5 күн бұрын

I heard on the grapevine today that the NT1100 is arriving in the US in the summer of 2025

@Raflesiaa Ай бұрын

Hope Honda bring this machine to India…

@DucatiDale Ай бұрын

Never would I of thought I’d read some many moaners about shaft drive or a automatic screen 😂 there’s a reason that pretty much only the tiger 1200 and gs do it because no one wants it 😂 you gain weight lose power all for a slight lube and adjustment every few hundred miles as for the screen I mean adjusting most modern ones is as easy as a button anyway

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

I have to agree, electric screens are a nice feature, until they go wrong! If Honda put this bike out with shaft drive and electric screen, but for £2k more I guess there would be complaints about the price! 😂

@pandar2205 Ай бұрын

And the Yamaha super T 😂.....well, it's still available in OZ , not sure about Europe etc.

@denismustafa4225 Ай бұрын

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@cpuuk Ай бұрын

I mean, why would Honda put a shaft on a tourer, it's not like anyone ever buys a shaft driven bike any more (looks at world leader in touring sales from Germany...). Still, solid improvements.

@ziondanny7081 Ай бұрын

Cue whinging about lack of shaft drive.

@TimmyTookaLook Ай бұрын

All bikes would be chain drive nowa days as their so efficient. The only bikes that don't is because there other shafts, crank and gear shafts all run in same direction and it's easier to fit shaft drive. So they'll have to put up with the extra weight, more expense, torque reaction, and don't forget it's a serviceable item now with BMW at 60,000 miles "How much!!!"😮. My original oem chain lasted 20,000 got adjusted about 5 times and £150 to replace DID chain and sprokets. Keep up the good work Matey.

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

Agreed, and cheers

@markvinter7522 Ай бұрын

Great bike, but the looks just too bland for me. Great review as always.

@bressan1998 Ай бұрын

Why is it not coming to USA?

@mancavemoto 20 күн бұрын

Maybe it will?

@bressan1998 20 күн бұрын

@@mancavemoto I'll buy it.

@mancavemoto 2 күн бұрын

Summer of 2025

@UncleWally3 Ай бұрын

Is North America not saying enough or is Honda not listening?

@mancavemoto 5 күн бұрын

I hear today that it’s hitting the US in May 2025

@kenbadgett8383 Ай бұрын

I live in the United States Honda please bring it to the states 😢

@thelanehunterdevon1664 Ай бұрын

How's that broken ankle. Still in bits here.

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

Getting there thanks, but slowly

@trailingarm63 Ай бұрын

Hell of a shame Honda won't put a shaft-drive on it. That's more important than all this electronic baloney. They've had great shaft-driven bikes for decades, and just when they've finally got a competitive bike in the touring market they abandon it. It's as big of an own-goal as the VFR 1200 which turned out to be neither fish nor fowl (neither tourer nor sportster).

@paulstix1 Ай бұрын

Was interested until you said chain driven . I’ll wait till they make it shaft drive

@tasosampa8943 Ай бұрын

Στην Ελλάδα δεν εiσάγεται το Honda NT 1100 από την Αντιπροσωπεία της Honda!!

@jimbroen Ай бұрын

Once you've owned a touring bike with a button controlled windscreen, you will not want to go back to a manual adjustment. Car makers put electric window lifts on everything. Why do motorcycle manufacturers struggle with this. I know Honda really wants to sell me a Goldwing but why do they have to be such jerks about this. The same applies to Japanese manufacturers and cruise control. Why is it missing from so many of the good middleweights?

@mancavemoto Ай бұрын

I guess car makers don't have to worry so much about weight? and they have a lot more 'real estate' to deal with.

@jimbroen Ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto Perhaps. A motorized windscreen could be an added price option so the purchaser could decide if the extra five pounds is a concern. That argument doesn't explain manufacturers reticence for cruise control on throttle by wire middleweights. BMW and KTM do this so very well. They seem to be willing to add an optional kitchen sink if the customer is willing to open their wallet. BMW's problem is that the model without the optional kitchen sink installed can't be found on any showroom floor.

@domicam100 Ай бұрын

If it only had shaft drive

@63snampook Ай бұрын

.....and still a chain, as final drive.....such a shame.

@mrg6619 Ай бұрын

I bought a new 2023 model. The tank started to rust within 6 weeks of summer ownership and Honda UK say its " normal" and if they swapped for another the same would happen. Having raised the issue on the NT forum others have experienced the same. Honda quality has gone, I'm afraid its time to consider cheaper Chines brands.