2025 Porsche 911 Carrera is a Perfect "Base" Car... But It's Not Cheap

[@KealeyOnCars]

Just remember Jeff: you can’t drive a college tuition. But you can drive a Porsche.

[@Kamukix]

@@KealeyOnCars lmao, I always told my wife that the 911 has better fuel economy and HVAC than our house does. Seems logical to me 🤷‍♂️

[@AaronBrother]

@@Kamukix That's why I never get married.

[@lastlondon]

If it’s a “OR” decision between kids college education and a Porsche, then you’re probably not able to afford the Porsche (and need to get your priorities checked), or you’re in Europe, and higher education is virtually free compared to the US and you can afford a new Porsche without problem.

[@mocheen4837]

I just paid off both of my children’s college in full and even with a few million saved I cannot justify buying a new Porsche. This is almost half of my salary on a depreciating asset.that I may drive once per week. Maybe I can look into a used 991 S or possibly a 997 S. Prices are out of hand now and only for the rich.

[@3103frank]

@@mocheen4837you’re rich!

[@joevecchio4687]

I picked up my first sports car last week 2025 boxster S Bottom Line with tax and ppf 118,000 I’m 70 Fuck it It’s a manual I’m thinking of getting a base 911 next year You can spend 100 grand on a pick up truck

[@101ktm]

You will need to step up to a Carrera T if you want a manual like your 718.

[@dennisdavis3564]

Ding ding, we have a winner 🎉

[@PJ-ps3vv]

Good for you brother! Enjoy!

[@ft7039]

LFG!!! YASSSSSSSSSSS

[@cozmicsoull]

Right on! You've waited, sacrificed, and prioritized others long enough. Enjoy the ride!

[@Nordic_Sky]

I decided to buy a regular Carrera, in my case a low mileage 991.1 from 2016. Put a different exhaust on it, had it lowered and put HREs on it. Great car. Honestly, it has all the power I need.

[@essel23fly]

The prices inflation wise are not that crazy. The problem is salaries haven't kept up so less people can afford them

[@c5vette739]

That’s the precise definition of inflation.

[@alexthejew420]

@@c5vette739 i know, i have no clue what he was tryna say 😭

[@1q2w3e4r5t6zism]

20-30% in 2,5 years?

[@ak2112]

I remember like 8 years ago there was a 991.2 carrera press car that was guards red with almost zero options and a manual that was maybe $96k? MT did a video with it and that super base trim felt real cool to me. Now, forget about it.

[@Kamukix]

It's funny you say that, cuz here I was thinking back to 8 years ago juuuuuust before we bought our house...joking with my wife that I wanted to just buy this beautiful 911 at the Porsche dealership, new...for $88k and just live in that instead. My how things have changed. 🥲

[@tjabaley]

lol. I love that video. It drove me to get a guards red “poverty edition” 992.1. Let me tell you it has been a wonderful 911. Only options are spot Chrono and 21 inch wheels. Base manual seats No sunroof Great car IIRC it was 105k I’m keeping it til I croak

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

I remember that video, Cammisa was the driver. I do like the approach of a barebone 992. No sunroof, basic 4 ways seats, no packages and driving aids. However, awd is a must for me. And the S trim is good because the base carrera and carrera 4 can't get under 20 seconds 0-150 mph. Also PCCB is a must, -45 lbs of unsprung weight on a light car is great. So I wouldn't consider anything less than a 992 4S with PCCB, PASM and lightweight glasses. Throw in that other 3 OEM optionals paldao wood, a manual transmission and carbon fiber bucket seats and be sure your 992 4S won't depreciate at all. I doubt they will make another awd manual 911

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

@@tjabaley Personally I wouldn't get a 911 without awd and ceramic brakes. There was a pristine 2018 20k miles 991.2 4S with ceramic brakes and no sunroof listed for 92k that I really wanted to get, but they sold it in a heartbeat. Even before I could book my flight from Canada to US.

[@markthespark25]

Most underrated automotive channel. Reminds me of the old SmokingTire with its own twist Keep Hooning

[@TheHooniverse]

Thanks, appreciate that comment - Just saw Matt over the weekend too, haha.

[@markthespark25]

@ of course - your car knowledge and commentary is awesome. Matt and Zack helped start my love for cars

[@e36boy]

nice watch, base Carrera over here in the Philippines 2x the amount, my cousin just bought a 2.0 Cayman base model over here for 142k USD. It actually too expensive. I'm glad we have a 993 owned since 2000

[@americanAlienBoy]

There's another thing that's odd about Porsche pricing. Usually, manufacturers sell more units of their less expensive offerings. Yet, even though the Cayman starts at almost $50,000 less, in the US Porsche sells between 2 and 3 times as many 911s as they do Caymans (Caymen?) and Boxsters combined.

[@markthompson2112]

Great video! I enjoyed your honesty…

[@zTheBigFishz]

I bought a 2022 Carrera in Oct of 2021 spending about 25K in options. At that price it is only about 10K more than the zero option 2025 Carerra. They are great cars, I certainly love mine having put about 47K miles on it. I just put my all season tires on it for winter. I live in the South so I just need tires that can handle the cold and rain. Mine has an APR tune, so it has 992.1 GTS power levels, which can be interesting considering it has an open diff.

[@gonzalouriona8023]

thats awesome! love the somewhat analog tach on that model, what all seasons did you pop on your wheels?

[@zTheBigFishz]

@@gonzalouriona8023 Michelin 4S All Season.

[@ArneAsada69]

You lost me at $120k. Used to be you could get a base stripper 911 for under $90k.

[@jwalesoutlaw3294]

And that wasn't that long ago. 911 price inflation is something to behold

[@essel23fly]

It's called inflation. A 2016 base 91 was 90K, equivalent to almost 120K today, granted a bit less. But it's still a better build car than back then.

[@g2nyce101]

Where are you getting a used 911 for under $90k?! What year and how many miles?

[@hodad200]

Went back to watch Head2Head with Jan and Marsha Brady wheel a 991.2 Carrera S. Base price was $104k in 2017.

[@cbotten106]

Car prices have gone up and down over the years. Some BMW, Porsche and Mercedes models hit six figures back in the 1980's and then went down again later. I'm hoping history will repeat itself but fear otherwise this time because of the EV push.

[@kennynunez6792]

Thank You Jesus for Hot Wheels - lol. Ive been following Porsches since the 996. Every iteration is more and more and more expesnive. The pre-certified cars used to be the way to go. But currently those prices are the same or more than new. Ive talked to a local P car dealer and allocations were out 18 or more months. At least I can watch cool videos like this.

[@johnpeace6968]

How much of this is "Porsches are expensive" vs "all cars are expensive now," though? I was at the local Honda dealership recently (not at all the same, I get it) and a Civic Sport with a CVT (yuck) and cloth(!) seats was over $30k. I literally said to myself out loud that the car in front of me should not have cost more than $18k.

[@TheHooniverse]

Oh for sure thats a huge part of it. Everything feels expensive.

[@timeslowingdown]

Inflation. Things aren't more expensive, the dollar is worth less.

[@geothermal7999]

The problem is no matter what they’re cost people buy it.

[@puravida5683]

Thought about buying one, forgot about buying one! I bought a new 2025 Lexus LC500 Coupe instead. Cheaper, more luxurious, less maintenance costs, and reliable. I'm German/American and grew up with Porches in the family. They are actually expensive, tuned Volkswagens.

[@johnbussa5497]

Try buying one in Australia where the government imposes a luxury car tax and the price of the base car starts around $330,000.

[@leftmorningstar6954]

leave aUsTrALiA then😆🤣🤣🤣

[@jamespaul1835]

I own a 2025 992.2 base for two months now. I try to find videos like this to keep the thrill of ownership as exciting as possible. Speaking about money, the insurance I’m paying as a 55 year old with no tickets or accidents in California is criminal. The price of the car has kept pace with inflation. The value of our dollar is eroding. That is the problem. In 1970 a million dollars would have purchased 20 tract homes where I live now I could buy 1 or 2. I make triple what I made 25 years ago but can’t afford any more. The way I did it was to invest in stocks and hope I outpaced inflation.

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

I'd move to NH where car insurance is not mandatory. Unfortunately in Canada is mandatory in every province and territory.

[@Zach-sq1gs]

Please tell us more about this 2925 Porsche technology

[@DougSlmon]

Bro, would you take that over any Corvette? I sure damn would cause I think Corvette sucks or a Lamborghini sucks or a Ferrari sucks Porsche is the baddest car out there and it kicks ass take care and merry Christmas and happy new year brother.

[@TheHooniverse]

The Z06 is pretty rad… but that one isnt cheap either ha

[@russellbeck9974]

When you consider that many lesser vehicles pierce the $100k barrier now, (diesel trucks, Grand Wagoneers, etc) It’s really just inflation. I feel better with money parked in this beauty, than in just about anything else!

[@ALMX5DP]

Still have to watch, but I kinda feel a Cayman GTS 4.0 or even GT4 might be a more compelling vehicle for similar money.

[@maninblack9857]

👏

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Really nice camera angles and good job. Wish I could try a car for a review! I might ask.....

[@carfan3762]

I agree with you, the 911 is getting more and more expensive, in proportion to the fact that it’s also getting better and better. But then, if this can be a soothing thought, how about some of the competition ? Maybe in the US one may hesitate between a 911 and a Corvette (the Corvette being the cheaper one), but in Europe the comparison shifts between a Ferrari and a 911. Suddenly the (quite) expensive 911 doesn’t seem all that expensive. Things don’t sum up in performance exclusively. A 911 isn’t going to be the fastest or most powerful car in all circumstances, but it has a character of its own which 911 fans absolutely love. The driving experience of a 911 is quite unique, just like its practicality. So the question of price, though at times worrying, becomes secondary (for those who can afford one) when you consider what the car delivers, and in this instance, the base 992.2 😎

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

Practicality isn't that unique at least untll when the GTC4 lusso V12 was on sale. Awd, air suspensions, 4 real seats and a lot of cargo space.

[@carfan3762]

@ At a much higher price than the base Carrera 😅

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

@@carfan3762 But a base carrera also doesn't have the same practicality because lacks awd and some other features. But yes the price was way higher

[@s.gharavi1614]

Porsche in trying to complete with Ferrari will lose it's core consumer and lose against Ferrari anyway. It's a short term profit taking strategy that will end badly .

[@carfan3762]

@ I don’t think Porsche has the slightest interest in what Ferrari does (or not). It just gets on with its own business, and as far as the 911 is concerned, it does its job very well indeed and has done so for the last 61 years. 😎

[@T_ISEC_G]

Well, you have to consider the additional standard equipment in comparison to the old model: - the 992.2 has an incredible 9 hp more - LED Lights, - bi-turbos and brakes from the 992.1 GTS, - the intercooler of the turbo - Lane departure warning and emergency brake assist - Heated seats, - Dimming mirrors - Park assist incl. camera And not to forget 5-6% discount at the moment.

[@jamesvelvet3612]

Paid $62k out the door for my factory ordered Porsche 930 (1987). That is about $172k in 2025 dollars. This Carrera is twice the car for $50k less. My 930 had the same horsepower as a V-6 Camry and the rear end with huge whale tale (with ET come home 3rd brake light) would try to pass me in corners ;-)

[@tobi_dg]

You nailed it. People who buy a base care about the price. Otherwise they would get a GTS, TurboS, etc. But Porsche has now priced even the base at unobtainium money. That’s what has caused the base 911 to lose any appeal for me. It’s good. But not $150K good.

[@AA-cj7pt]

it comes down to personal taste and needs. I can afford a turbo S or whatever but I prefer the base 911 because it offers more customization and feels understated. I don’t really like drawing too much attention, yeah sure it’s always a Porsche lol. The GTs don’t appeal to me because of the stitched model name on the headrest, which can’t be removed. I’m also not a fan of the Turbo’s side air ducts, and the fact that I can’t get the dark grey satin rims I love on the Turbo leans me further toward the base model. I also prefer the spoiler you can add to the base model over the Turbo’s, which is part of the standard configuration and can’t be changed . The GT3 and RS feel too track-oriented, which is a bit silly for city driving, and I don’t like that they can’t have a sunroof. I also prefer the front and rear bumper design on the base model over the other versions. The cabriolet doesn’t interest me either-I don’t like the fabric top. Adding a spoiler to the base 911 makes it sporty and aggressive yet elegant and subtle-the perfect balance for me. And adding all the options it gets to nearly 200k, is that expensive enough for you?lol- Just because someone chooses the base model doesn’t mean they can’t afford the most expensive one.. just my opinion..

[@a-verybasic2]

My 2022 C2 was 101k plus a few options still way under the base cost today, I call that protecting my investment. after 25,000 miles I still can’t wait to drive it every day !

[@1q2w3e4r5t6zism]

As an inexperienced Porsche/sports car driver, you should go for the basic 911 first anyway, preferably with all-wheel drive. If you look at the 992.2 S and GTS 2S, then you know how dangerous these cars are in inexperienced hands: Incredible power in turbo characteristics on numerically one drive axle. You have to know what you're doing here, essentially in wet conditions. This is exactly what is always forgotten! At the end of a Porsche career, you end up with the Carrera 4.

[@tundra866]

I own a 2020 911 bought it new love the car added a few options out the door 110k today the same car 140k

[@lioneljones8080]

Man, you are 1,000,000 % correct, I have owned at least 17 Porsches, and 8 of them were 911s. I just went to the dealership today to grab the new 2025 911 (I have the 2024 718 currently), and the price tag was a whopping $157,000 (WTF…😢😅), I love it, butttttt ,man… they have me crying 😢. Car is phenomenal though…., makes me appreciate my 718 more 😂, (it’s 1/2 the debt of what I would have to spend on the new 911 😂right now…), no longer a simple person’s car..

[@nicholasstathos1387]

Love Porsches but the demand for this things is wayyyy overblown. A base 911 is an 80,000 dollar car, not a 120,000 dollar car. 5 years ago you could get a base 991 and a used cayman together for less than the price of this (less pure) car.

[@dlj1285]

Could not agree more. Porsche has lost the plot.

[@gilbertferguson1685]

No Porsche is cheap. The base model has plenty of performance and you can always add a tune to boost the power for a lot less than an S model.

[@yorbalindason]

There has been the saying the best first Porsche is a used Porsche. CPO a good way to go. If you’ve been dreaming and you have the cash to buy the car then buy the car whether $75, $100, $150. If you have that cash then the actual cost of the car is the depreciation - a $150,000 car is worth $100,000 in 4-5 years, so $50,000 net. You will for sure get $50,000 of happiness from a base 911. And it beats therapy.

[@bourbontraveler]

I had a 964 I think it was a 1992? That cost me around 89 grand So the base isn’t that out of line with inflation over the years. Also remember they hold their value.

[@diogopsilva]

Cool, now I want one even more.

[@DougSlmon]

Just like this song, take the long way home

[@brandonairey4040]

It needs a 400hp rating to align with base Taycan. Should use a 4.0L out of the 718 GTS.

[@haraldklein2009]

The perfect base Carrera would be a no frills car with a manual transmission

[@mrsharps]

I’m pretty sure the base doesn’t come in manual anymore. You’d have to go with a Carrera T

[@haraldklein2009]

@ I said would be. The price for that T is over the top for what it is

[@chrisgizmunt927]

Shout out to highland bike park… that’s quite a distance from where you’re driving the 911!

[@TheHooniverse]

Ha! It is indeed. But i go back to NH every year for a guys trip with some close friends. They sometimes play golf one day, so i break off and find a MTB park. Did Cranmore one year… meh. Did Highland the next. Amazing place. Need to go back.

[@superduper476]

I priced one out, driver spec, nothing too fancy, easily 160k plus.

[@blakec489]

All you'd ever need. Great spec and those wheels are rad. Just a shame you'd need to sell a few kidneys and maybe a left nut to afford one

[@karieltheone]

I still like the Cayman more.

[@TheHooniverse]

Caymans are awesome. I get it. But the 911 is much more car. Not disagreeing with you, mind you…

[@holymolys7692]

pls review M4 xdrive and compare to base 911 maybe

[@TheHooniverse]

I am actually in the M4 rwd manual this week haha (ruby star neo paint on it too!)

[@holymolys7692]

​@@TheHooniverse Great! maybe later xdrive some say xdrive and auto suit the car better

[@spinlologo8830]

It’s 185.000$ in Austria

[@AGC828]

It's actually"good enough for referral world driving. Has most of the wanted AG's necessary features... It just can't be has work rear wheel steering.. which is nice to have cut not NECESSARY... How baby 6 don't have it today??"

[@yongchenlu6356]

Oh my! base Carrera so cheap in US! It's double the price here!$120,000!It's like a free give...

[@zoltantoth1566]

you do not get a model, you get a type; the model ends in the factory, it does not get to the customer but even if it did - it would be useless for the customer; model is some simplified thing of a real thing - like a drawing of a car

[@apoercan95]

uhmm.. try Turkiye where taxes are so ridiculous the base Carrera costs about 500k USD

[@andrewtodd126]

A brand new poverty spec 911 in the UK is £98, 800 = US $124,507.76

[@krisflowers1712]

Just looked at one that was optioned out to 158k.😢

[@Maxrotor1]

I waited until the kids were out of college to get my 2024 Carerra S.

[@davids1816]

Knowing the S is probably just an engine map at this point, I don't see the point in not making this have, say 430-450 hp.

[@G55STEYR]

What are you doin'? I thougth you are Mercedes fan. Is the W123ombat done?

[@birit911]

I was complaining like this 16 years ago when I bought by 2009 Porsche base Carrera for $75,000 😂

[@lynwoodward9156]

Can see you contemplating cashing in that 529…

[@MarSer3]

way to expensive for what it offers, especially in the US, even in Europe you have the M, RS or AMG at half the price

[@timwong580]

Base 911s fetch base commissions!

[@blarkdexture8899]

Not silver, grey.

[@TheHooniverse]

Don't be a Porsche Paint nerd, lol - Yes, the correct name is Slate Grey Neo. If I asked 100 people on the street they would say "Oh, nice silver Porsche!"

[@hartmutthomas989]

Porsche . König der Landstraße .

[@s.gharavi1614]

Porsche greed will come home to roost

[@glenwerline3876]

And that price doesn’t include the ADM that ranges from $20k and up.

[@garyjohnson3751]

I’m glad the prices are what they are it keeps the prestige of the car and the riff raff away and I’ve owned Porsches all my adult life

[@joevecchio4687]

I bet you don’t have a lot of friends

[@dlj1285]

Another reason I don’t want to own a Porsche. The mindset of the typical owner.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

It's a lot of money but it's also a lot of car. Unfortunately, until Porsche gives a better warranty, I won't be buying one.

[@6844376]

The car is out of this world but you don't even get a sliding roof for 150 large. 👎

[@picanha694]

120k is like the price of an C class in indonesia

[@Slickpete83]

*at that starting price you might as well buy a Porsche 718 GTS 4.0*

[@kayabaha]

No

[@mp1314]

718 GT4 more near to it

[@PascalJanssen-y3x]

Europe (belgium)135660€ base model + 20000€ options =155660€ 😢

[@mmercato7174]

❤‍🔥

[@VK6AB-]

Its not cheap and its not worth it.

[@audiomagic8192]

It's a great car as a base model, but it's not perfect. The price is extremely steep and it doesn't have a naturally aspirated engine. That means many enthusiasts will look to other offerings for that price instead.

[@medfadlakmedfadlak2288]

Your hands seem a little small Jeff.

[@Mkvkuv]

inflation is crazy

[@TomTom-Don]

Thats only one bitcoin 🎉😂

[@kcw9313]

Base Carreras are more rare than gt3s. Don’t be a Porsche peasant.

[@hollaz2]

If a peasant means owning a 6 figure car, than sign me up any day

[@Lord_Deimos]

Imagine thinking that a 100k dollar car makes you a peasant

[@NickForest999]

The base Carrera is more car than 90% of drivers will ever need…fact

[@jacobraines-p1o]

So true. I never see base Carreras

[@alexthejew420]

@@NickForest999 a base model 911 from the 90s is plenty bro, even a boxster from the 2000s onward

[@carguy7627]

I get your point on absolute price but not purchasing power. A base 911 adjusted for inflation is the same as it was 24 years ago. That’s how western economics work and why parents always talk about how much cheaper things were when they grew up.

[@VICMARIOS]

Con basicos asi yo tambien se. Lo proximo un Ferrari basico.😂

[@SteveGrin]

Buy used, much more reasonable and most of them have not been hooned.

[@dinodinosaur2930]

😬 WOW ... The Carrera price increase must be down to their R&D costs employed in their 2025 higher end engine ... Its starts in electric, has no starter motor and has F1 batteries ... 💚 Your going to love the new Lamborgini Ures SE Hybrid on the dirt

[@JohnnyLee-ki3dl]

Inflation 😂 70000 was base long time ago

[@larrydemonte2218]

Well, let me ask you, if you go up to the next level for a supercar, you took $350,000, for a Ferrari, which of temperamental, half a million for a McLaren,, and Porsche you could drive every day, compare apples to oranges 911 is better value

[@dukmahsik]

Get a 992.1 911 T instead... way better

[@borinvlogs]

It is too slow for the price. I was actually underwhelmed when i got to test drive it. The fact that i daily a Tesla M3P does not help either. It just felt too slow.

[@Fluterra]

It’s a complete bore to drive! I own an AMG GTc and could not wait to get out of my 911 base test drive. Yawn.

[@Fluterra]

If you think this is a great car to drive, you don’t know how great cars should drive.

[@bourbontraveler]

You’ve never owned a 911, have you?

[@Fluterra]

@ I have. 997. I liked the 991.2 as well. The 992 is a complete bore to drive, at least in base trim. Cheap interior, ugly digital display… it’s also way too large and heavy.

[@bourbontraveler]

@@Fluterra Porsches are now grand tourers I don’t find my 992 boring but I use it for coast to coast blasts.

[@bengrabenstein2929]

I have a 2008 RS 60, bought at 40K now 80K. The real cost is maintenance. Hard to get your car back ever for under $500. Thousands is ordinary. 9 quarts of Mobile One for an oil change. All that said, every day I am glad to have it. But I'm a year from 60.

[@PaR2020]

150K as tested. I would get an M5 - much faster, much better technology, much more practical. And that used M5 would be half of that. 911 is not worth it

[@genesultry6447]

Yes, but it's not a 911 lol

[@markg1531]

The price has stayed the same. The dollar has lost value. It’s being „printed” out of nothing in enormous amounts. You drive a Porsche and you don’t understand the basics of economics?

[@sasothestrategizer]

Macan for me.

[@mikobel7131]

120k to start for A base?…..WTF….

[@Iwo26]

Porsche... the most overpriced car manufacture

[@gaara4667]

911s have long stopped being what made them special. No longer sports cars either. People coming from previous generations of 911 have said the 992 doesn’t have any resemblance to the cars of old, not even in spirit. Just the same badge and name. So 120k for a base 911 is fucking ridiculous. Porsche needs to stop trying to be like Ferrari.

[@niptodstan]

You can't use all that power on the road. A base model is faster than 95% of owners could use. You can buy a 50k ev that will give you more power now. Times are changing.

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

More power and more speed up to 60 mph, maybe 90 mph. Above that speed an humble base carrera will be faster than your average 500 hp EV suv. I have that suv (bmw iX 50)

[@neronine8679]

.. humanity are "going too far" with all these idiotic and unnecessary things in the cars....... I don't need anything in my car except necessary things for driving and - that's it! I ❤️ base cars

[@kwebmail2007]

I know it's gonna hurt a Californians ears to hear this but inflation.inflation.inflation. has absolutely wrecked the car market and the price of everything else the last 4 yrs. I'm not naive enough to think that's gonna change anytime soon but I'm certainly gonna call out the root cause. Monetary policy and stupid financial decisions have made cars ridiculously priced.... and I'm a car guy!

[@TuvingtonD]

A 9 minute whine about the cost. Everyone knows the entire Porsche line up has moved up significantly in price. Yawn 🥱