2025’s Most Exciting Sim Racing Equipment - ADAC Sim Racing Expo

[@simmerdowntom]

"more ubiquitous than Chappele Roan" "as rigid as Angela from the US office" I'm here for more of these please! Great video as always!

[@UnFitGamingDC]

I don’t understand how everybody cries about the price? You can’t afford it but for those who can we want the best experience possible. There are pedals from $100-$10000 ? Pick your poison. Stop complaining about prices save your money get what you can afford. I want the best experience possible. I love to see this kinda tech, keep it coming!

[@Dachopper_]

Exactly. Not everyone can afford a Mercedes but you don’t see people complaining about Mercedes commercials. There’s a market for everyone

[@s.muller8688]

You sound like the perfect consumer. Slow clap!

[@TooToo246]

The problem is not the price, the question is; what do I get for that price, that I can't get in cheaper wheels?

[@AL.farmlife]

the biggest problem of SIM racing is there is no honest reviewer all paid and sponsored. 😂

[@AL.farmlife]

and the funny thing is that people who think they got the best of the best feelings out of their equipment 😂😂😂Fooled by paid boys! In reality there is almost no difference to cheaper

[@kuku6031]

Holy 💩 that Pagani rig is insane … checks lotto numbers from last week

[@boostedmedia]

Thanks for the coverage fellas!

[@JaapGrolleman]

Bit cliché but my favorite was all the people. That's what makes the expo so great. My last visit was years ago, finally got so many online friends IRL.

[@Hesster_dj]

Ayyy Suellio I see you! 18:38

[@eagletrippin]

The Professor!

[@sheluvkenny]

They had a whole champion in the background… W coach

[@drchtct]

Good to see so many companies are entering the market or innovating with new products

[@Sile]

Can't wait for the first 100nm wheel. Yeah, I only set it to 10% otherwise it's too powerful.

[@AdamsOlympia]

We're already close to the point where a DD wheel can break an arm. Now all we need is active pedals strong enough to break a leg. Sim racing isn't good enough until it's as dangerous as real racing!

[@stevejones3868]

An ex-touring car driver I know uses an R9. He turns it down a bit, because - “Otherwise it’s unrealistic”.

[@BrahBrah-w9w]

From what I’ve heard once your Above a certain point the higher force just help smooth out the movements and not clip the ffb limit also helps with drifting cause it’ll spin the wheel faster might also be useful if your driving something with no power steering

[@robertcarr4172]

Happy Thrustmaster is finally coming back to the party. When the xbox version of the T598 comes out, I will pick one up. Ticks all the boxes for me

[@SnakezF1]

Why just not get the Moza R3 bundle for xbox?

[@robertcarr4172]

@SnakezF1 yeah it's awesome actually, but I'm worried it might just not have enough punch for me.

[@fredsas12]

Lets hope they have a metal quick release now..

[@alphastratus6623]

@@fredsas12 At the sim there was only the plastic tm quick release. But it fit the 5 Nm very fine, it feels absolutely sturdy with this wheel base.

[@Kultivater]

I don't really understand why anyone would go for a thrustmaster direct drive wheel when they can get things like the Asetek La Prima or Forte. Simucube level quality at Fanatec comparable prices (sometimes less). I love my La Prima.

[@guitarsimon1]

Someone's gonna rip their arms out of their sockets with that 35nm wheelbase 😂

[@Darkside540]

10nm to break your wrist...

[@kidMclean]

I trying hard not to laugh but your comment is funny af 😅

[@spayrex_]

@@Darkside540 yeah idk but 10nm is just not enough, especially for karting you need high nm bases so something like 20 or 25 max when you are training but yeah with 35 you maybe drive safer since you cold actually injure yourself pretty hard 😂

[@nigelnathan]

Yes that's the next thing hand and wrist injuries from games

[@Kultivater]

​@@spayrex_Honestly, anything above 12nm becomes unnecessary beyond giving clip headroom for detail. You're almost never going to turn the strength high enough to regularly use more than 10-12nm in any sim if you want a realistic experience.

[@RHeidenreich572]

Almost 4000 USD before taxes for pedals is beyond insane pricing

[@001sander2]

Buy once, cry until 2029 when you finish paying off the monthly installment plan 🤣

[@Anonnymouse53]

My concern with buying proprietary actuators, is how long will the software be maintained. How long is the warranty, how long will they be serviceable and at what price. I have an SFX-100 and whilst it performs great I do look at the performance figures of the Qubic system and wonder. But I know the SFX-100 is forever, I can always replace the parts myself and the software is open source. I'd be really upset to spend 8000 bucks and have a problem a few years down the line. Quick moving parts & motors under 100kg of force will go wrong at some point.

[@storyman34]

Yeah... that's tough to swallow when my real world RAV4 cost me $3000 CAD ($2175 USD).

[@keeef23]

Don’t buy them then bro👍🏼

[@mattymatte6289]

Who cares. There's basically no alternative. It's paving the way for future products. Gotta pay the early adopter price if you want to join the cool kids club early.

[@DannyGiusa]

This video make you spend an unreasonable amount of money for new hardware. I LOVE IT.

[@JURacing]

I found the Swedish 'Simrig SR3' motion rig, right next to the race-motion stand even better and more impressive, because it was so incredibly smooth and it felt closest to racing the Nordschleife with my own car. They may have a less spectacular presentation but for me the best motion-rig on the Expo.

[@PhantomMark]

What's the point in 35nm DD tho ?? I mean I literally see no reason ? I can drive either of my race cars shod in slicks with one hand , unless you are doing karting or maybe something from generations back it seems wasted, I have the 12nm Moza and it is already has plenty of overhead, I also have the 8nm Fanatec CSL , that was pretty damned decent as well with minimal clipping? Those Simucube pedals look neat tho :)

[@AdamsOlympia]

25nm Simucube owner here. From everyone I've heard who owns both the 25nm and the 32nm Simucube wheelbase, it sounds like they can't really tell much, if any difference. It's at the point of diminishing returns beyond 25nm imo.. . But going from 8 to 12 to 25nm is still quite a difference in the level of detail, the ability to convey crisp, controlled transient spikes. It's very similar to the logic behind getting high wattage speaker amplifiers -- you can hear the difference even when you're not cranking the volume up to max; up to a certain point.

[@alphastratus6623]

Since I drive in VR the 8Nm doesn't feel enough at all. It feels like the starter Logitech at a display. It somehow looks similar, but the feeling is barely there. I'm not sure if I will be happy with 12 Nm (even if my wallet prefer a moderate upgrade).

[@RacingUnleashed]

thanks for the visit guys :) hope you've enjoyed our Formula sims too.

[@LukeVesty]

Wanted to see more on the new Simagic stuff. Their new Formula style wheel with a display and simhub support is desperately needed in the mid range price bracket.

[@Hardys-Mods]

14:50 which game (simulator) are u using here? Looks kinda like Assetto Corsa? And if yes, what Huayra R mod is that?

[@arthurnunesc]

it is and it is a proprietary Pagani mod.

[@achilleconte4385]

​@@arthurnunesc shame they don't put it on the market for everyone to purchase it. I would happily pay 5-6€ for an official Huayra R mod.

[@arthurnunesc]

@@achilleconte4385 true but it wouldn't make any sense for their business model, the point of it is that it is exclusive

[@achilleconte4385]

@@arthurnunesc understandable, it's not a matter of money, it's a matter of exclusivity. An exclusive car and an exclusive mod. Maybe there's an embargo of x years who knows... Maybe in 5 years RSS will be free to public release it, who knows. At least a man can dream right? 😄

[@arthurnunesc]

@@achilleconte4385 I don't think this was developed by RSS hahaha

[@Derra63]

What about simagic??

[@RADERFPV]

IKR? They had a lot of new stuff at the expo, including a new wheelbase.

[@Foxiol]

@@RADERFPV New base, new modular wheels, new FFB pedals similar to Simucube, new "DDU" screen with mag link for both wheel and bases (also compatible with SimHub), etc. Simagic doesn't need cheap ass you tubers, real simracers (not paid ones) know what is good and how to find their stuff. ;)

[@robertcarr4172]

Thanks for the content gents. Good stuff!!!

[@Lil-Lou]

Did you guys visit the Cooler Master rig and motion system?

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

Simlab looks like it's using Kollmorgen or Lenze motor. Really excited to see what they come up with. Kerb and track limit hits with the Lenze feel a lot more substantial than with the Simucube, even with no filtering. I don't know if it's the lower-res encoder, the servo controller, or just material differences that create different resonance frequencies. But the SC2 feels a bit "thin" even if it has double the torque that you really need.

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

actually, I wonder if Bodnar is doing the controls side, saying that they've been working on it for 10 years...

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

I find it amazing thay they listened to consumers to black out the cube controls logo on the new amg wheel.

[@stefanoamsterdam7655]

that wheel alone is the price of their top dogg base xD insane.. talking about the simlab part

[@GRamerDim]

does anyone know what wheel is shown at 14:35

[@PlatinumRevenues]

what monitor is that?

[@TomGorian]

whats that wheel? 14:38

[@bennimclean]

Min 5:50 I would be interested to know what power he has just driven with. I doubt it is the full power of 30nm+

[@TraxionGG]

This was the mid-range model (up to 25nm), but it was definitely not turned up full of course! Not sure on specific settings but it was set sensibly for a weighty Formula Renault with slicks and wings 😊

[@Mr_jz_12]

Trakracer has a shifter and a handbrake coming out?

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Im so so hype, I'm so so happy to see most of the stuff shown is officially launching in 2025. New wheelbases, new wheels etc. So good Im 100% buying a simlab wheelbase. Idc what anyone says or reviews I want it. Luckily I have only heard amazing things so thats great. I love love that flow and bounce it has with suspension. So good Some brands don't do great with the loading and unloading feel one brand in specific that I shall not name that some really like. It feels over direct and dense and the unloading feel isn't there like I like. That floating where the edge of grip helps you push so much and that wheelbase was missing it. I wan tto be able to play with the edge of grip not just be stuck on the edge without feeling the variances of each step. This wheelbase looks like it does it incredibly well. May sound weird but I'm usually able to tell just by watching how it moves. If it looks floaty or bouncy like this with nice ranges of movement from said forces and details instead of just tiny ones usually that means it will have that amazing suspension and feel of grip I'm looking for. Isntwad of overly tight or dense feeling without being able to push past it. I will def be getting the mustang wheel also. Wait nvm 2k? Hell no i ain't paying that for a 1.1kg minimal wheel. Also pagani motion rig is the best I've ever ever used. Its perfect in feel and not uncomfortable.

[@pez_xsm]

Not uncomfortable... if you're skinny like I am! 😅 I've also heard that somebody had problems using the left foot to brake, but honestly that never occurred to me.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Wait what product are you talking about?​ the pagani rig? Yeah i said for a motion rig its not uncomfortable and most are. @pez_xsm

[@pez_xsm]

@@reviewforthetube6485 yes, the Pagani. Given the nature of the seat and the driving position, I think is quite comfortable; I don't know if you catch it, but the pedal box and the steering can be adjusted (in/out and up/down, pedals only forwards/backwards).

[@ricardomekking4960]

I fully agree with the Simlab bases they felt soo good allthough it was rough iracing data, really curious how it feels after they apply their upcoming software for it

[@Max__apex]

Buy it and tell us 😂

[@usleadershipareliars]

The cube controls mercedes rim lools alot like the Asetek Forte

[@PAPO1990]

"can take less overall force" as in the force I apply to it? or the force it pushes back with? because if I can't push on it with more than 110Kg I will probably break it...

[@Facewest]

I will only buy a perfectly round steering wheel. I tried the none perfectly round steering wheels and they make skid recovery very hard. You reach for the wheel and your hand will miss the because it is a square.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

I would love to know how simucube had there wheel setuo there it was perfect. All we would need to do is raise the nm but other then rhat the feel was perfection. Takes alot to dial it in to feeling like that wish I knew! Would never need to touch it again unless adjuating forces and thats all/it. Lol

[@yrtracingteam106]

15:53 great rig, very nice. But the movement on screen isn’t in sync with the rig. 🤷🏻‍♂️ So that’s totally unnatural when you race this rig

[@sensit_official]

You miss us. You have to try out Seat-of-the-Pants-Feeling…

[@brianwhitley]

The problem with the cool Sim things the one I like is so expensive, not very consumer friendly I will never have Motion, however Im open to any sponsorships out there lol

[@NoLimits1if3]

Takes about 150 pounds of pressure on the brake pedal in an F1 car that’s why the other one max is out at 170

[@guitarsimon1]

That motion rig looks like a baby version of Ferrari's scary looking F1 DIL simulator.

[@NoLimits1if3]

The SIM lab wheel is bugging out an F1 drivers wheel doesn’t move that much

[@kylehoyt8249]

These two were both grown in the same lab.

[@ecs4141]

Max Verstappen calmly waiting his turn....13:51

[@spyrule]

I dont understand the desire for DD's that can snap your fingers or wrist if you arn't careful. Seems odd to me. I would rather a high resolution DD that doesn't cost north of 1k to afford with the wheel, instead of one that requires me to hit the gym just to steer.

[@bigbangerz5856]

100kW? 😮

[@TraxionGG]

@@bigbangerz5856 Was meant to say Kilohertz, apologies! 😅

[@bigbangerz5856]

@@TraxionGG its ok dude, was just messing I knew what you meant really. It’s a very high frequency rate and shows strength in the product. Did you get a change to look at the Lamborghini wheel from Moza at all?

[@TraxionGG]

We haven’t seen it yet, but it looks insane! Very curious to see how it feels 😊

[@FATALROTARY]

Who uses 35mn? That's insane

[@Sithhy]

Gotta have all that torque for driving road cars, otherwise it's not realistic

[@Gizfreek]

It's a shame RSS can't release the Pagani Huayra R as a AC mod after all the work they've put into it.

[@clawsmayhem7268]

Not really sure the benefits of a 35nm base unless it has superior fidelity. 20+ is going to start breaking things

[@onboardsimulations8304]

What madman wants a 35nm wheel.

[@BobK58]

I thought it was one of those new suicide pods.

[@AL.farmlife]

hmm misleading😂 my friend tried sim lab said they wheel is to harsh signal /ffb

[@TraxionGG]

The greatest thing is that everyone has different opinions! 😊

[@Darkside540]

Yeah, just what I want... A steering wheel that can break my wrist...

[@Ravens____8LJ]

35nm, at that stage it's no longer gaming, you'd be fighting for your life.

[@Mre942]

@10:30 if it's not the same wheel you use in the car then it's a replica. "it's the same... But it has buttons that work in the sim" 😂

[@EAX-n5n]

Interesting but it totaly looks like out of spot. 110Kg of pressure? Without Gforce in Simracing? Who is going to press that weight solely with their foot for a longer period than 30 minutes? I dont even want to imagine how many hours of training in the gym with like 200kg squats it would require in order to handle these pedals for like 60 minutes in simracing. Also a 35Nm wheelbase... like who is going to ensure, that the rig is regularly checked for stability etc. so that it never comes off or causes massive danger for the player... i dont get it.

[@Eddiea2024]

And for these insane prices, i'm out. Ill stick to my g29 wheel and pedals. Fml.

[@mattparker2315]

Honetly if you had the money to buy that pegani, why on earht would you want a sim rig. just take the real thing :)

[@bennimclean]

6:50 At the beginning of the video, he is sitting in a Formula 1 rig. With a GT steering wheel. Ok Now he is sitting in a GT rig, with a Formula 1 steering wheel where you can see that the WheelBase is NOT adjusted for this. Just pay attention to how overstretched your wrists are. Absolutely bad !!!

[@LocoTheSquirrel]

It’s. A. Video. game.

[@DarkHorseSimracing]

35nm..? That is just beyond excessive lol no need for such power or that much headroom

[@SNAFUferret]

Nobody needs 35nm IMHO

[@asSIMuNation]

No mention of Fanatec's new wheels? Simagic brought out a whole bunch of stuff like active pedals, wheelbase, customizable wheels, etc but not a single mention? Wow how credible is this coverage and by extension any info that comes from Traxxion?

[@robertverwijs2879]

35 nm? Kids who sim race cant even handle 10😂😂

[@stryke325]

All of these new wheelbases and none of them are console compatible. Not one.

[@9PoLkovNik9]

Iracing is PC only. AC evo will be PC only for first year or so. Mods is PC only. There is lot of USB simracing peripherals for PC only. So you should sell your 30fps soap station if you are have interest for this hobby

[@SnakezF1]

Because pc is the home of simracing

[@Poppy293E]

Just want you to know why I gave you a thumbs down. Rich people in your comments told us lowly peasants to shut up about pricing. It comes across as our opinion matters more because we have money. I bought what I could afford I'm thrilled with it. Would love to tell the rich people where they can put their opinions but you asked me to be respectful . Sorry about the thumbs down maybe next.

[@prozekutor]

These guys look so athletic 💀

[@SIMRIG412]

Sim labs doesn’t have shifters 🤣 and rig and cockpit are the same thing!

[@alexanderdiak]

they do have a shifter lol

[@EpicGT]

100 k Subs Special when? :) @TraxionGG