205. The Palestine-Israel Conflict and Private Property with Robert Breedlove

[@JoeKazemi]

I wish every American citizen would watch this. Saif is spot on correct. Exceptional and enlightening.

[@JoeKazemi]

It’s so nice to hear someone speak so thoughtfully and honestly and accurately and courageously about this topic. This is really great to hear.

[@lalpremjith1]

Such an eye opening interview, you had been a guiding light in many ways to me. Do keep up the great work

[@muaawiyahtucker]

Another great episode from Saif. I’m glad he is touching upon these topics. Bitcoin is important but it’s only a tool. A tool used by ppl. People fix things with tools, but ppl don’t fix what they don’t think is broken. Podcasts like these educate on the various ways the world has been broke.

[@kassandralehming9641]

In 1948, the population of Hebron district was about 93,000 in an area of 1,000 square km; so the per capita land ownership was about 1.1 hectare (11 dunum). In 2021, the population of Hebron was about 780,000 making for a per capita land ownership of 0.13 hectare. An 8 fold population increase in 75 years may have been good or not ( it suggests a very ineffective genocide) but a subsequent 8 fold increase in any time frame would not be feasible. The world as a whole has this dilemma, but it is very apparent and more immediate in Israel/Palestine since resources are not abundant and the two major populations can't abide one another. Of course, that land ownership is never going to be uniformly distributed so the universal social issues will also persist.

[@mayurdotca]

Its sad this has so few views. One of the best videos on the subject.

[@nigel904]

Well said Saifedean, couldn’t agree more! 🇵🇸🫶🇬🇧

[@GamerNinetyNine99]

Hey buddy, can your team add timestamps for the next video, thanks

[@anishagiri21m]

Both great writers trying to make each other understand what they already know so we understand what they want us to.

[@falconux7006]

Saif, I see that it is still not clear to you why Britain & France were akin on starting a war with Germany, which gave us WW1. The reason is that Germany was a superpower in the making, their navy was starting to surpass the British, they were starting also to compete with France & Britain for colonies, so their economy needed to be finished off by a brutal & long war. See the following lecture from Dr. Casagranda for more details kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZPTYaGLZbyFZ9k

[@terpkilla6674]

2 top chaps

[@debbiebeatty8449]

I'd really like for someone to discuss the Jewish mafia's role in the founding and running of Israel. A large portion of Israel's GDP comes from criminal activities, yet we never hear about that.

[@NoLegalPlunder]

"The best solution is to have no state." Amen.

[@24killsequalMOAB]

The Arabs hate this idea.

[@abramizaackaplan6723]

The main thing that I appreciate about this discussion is that I perceive Saifedean to be entirely sincere in his convictions. On the other hand, I find his narrative about this very complex social and geopolitical issue to be wildly incoherent, and there are so many points that he makes which are fantastically distorted versions of history. I know it’s unfair for me to make a criticism like this without specifying the points that I disagree with, but they are just so numerous that it would take me forever to even scratch the surface. In a nutshell, Jews and Palestinians are living in two completely different meta-narratives with respect to historical realities surrounding the conflict. Again, I think that Saifedean is crafting this narrative in good faith, but I can assure you that the way he characterizes Jewish/Zionist imperatives is a massive distortion of how the Jewish people have seen themselves for the last hundred years. To be fair, the way that most Jewish/Israeli people characterize the position of the Palestinian people is also often a massive distortion of the way they see themselves.

[@vinvinvino3176]

you just succeeded in writing a beautiful many words about nothing.

[@roy2079]

actually i very much agree with you. his line of thought is so off track you wouldn't know where even to begin. it's a giant mess of random things thrown to show arabs in a positive way.

[@meltingzero3853]

I have great respect for Saif's case on money, but I have the same impression of his Palestine position. Not intellectually thorough, not arguments made in good faith.

[@rick_grimes8434]

Give one example of where he's wrong. Don't make excuse of it being too numerous. You shouldn't have said anything in the first place if that were the case. Give examples or keep your mouth shut.

[@rick_grimes8434]

@@vinvinvino3176 Makes zero sense

[@spencerhayek914]

Damn...over two weeks and less than 4k views? We are so fucked :-(

[@Iambadron]

My brainwashed mind didn't really want to hear this perspective... But it is very valuable of course thx

[@roy2079]

a Jew can get a plot of land in Israel for just coming here? in what universe are you living? a plot of land in Israel costs more than an entire village in Lebanon. please tell me how i can get that free plot of land lol

[@mrexxe1982]

Fiat history

[@evgenyschnittmann2559]

Saifedean Ammous, being a jew I really respect you for all the work that you do in terms of teaching people about Austrian economics and Bitcoin. But I think you are wrong on many points here. We call ourselves „am israel“ so the people of Israel. We are not just a religion. We are a people with our own language and our own history which started in Israel and continues in Israel. I am absolutely for peace and coexistence especially between Jews and Palestinians since we have common roots and happen to live in the same land. But it is dishonest to tell people that the life of Jews under Islamic rule was peaceful. Also it would be fair to mention that the land that Jews started to migrate to was desert wasteland. About 60-70% of what was called the British mandate of Palestine (which included now Israel, Gaza, westbank and Jordan) was abandoned. Also please provide the name of one Arab village or city in that region that was destroyed and replaced by Jews before 1947. As far as I know until the Arab nations attacked all the land jews lived on was bought from Brits or Arabs. I can for sure Name Jewish villages and settlements that were cleansed of jews by Arabs though. Besides that I again want to put focus on the fact that I really respect you for sharing your knowledge and I am sure that in the core of your opinion you, as much as me, and most jews and I hope Palestinians just want peace.

[@roy2079]

well said.. exactly my thoughts... disappointing hearing this from saifedean. he is clearly biased

[@vinvinvino3176]

@@roy2079 he is clearly biased and you jews are not? 😆

[@roy2079]

@@vinvinvino3176 I don't mind him being biased, the unintellectual thing is to state facts of history while being biased and thinking that this is reality. it's a stupid thing to talk about when it's clear you have a personal agenda that has to do with feelings. most if not all societies are terrible at whole, sometimes more sometimes less. they all eventually become authoritarian with mob rule. sometimes more sometimes less. taking about this conflict is silly. the true enemy of the people is the state, no matter what name or ethnicity it is, even though some are more terrible than others. they always start ruining everything for everybody at some point in time, and in the process commit terrible things. just focus on creating unstoppable tools to liberate humans from the state or at least be able for some free folk to opt out as much as possible, and dismantle most of the states powers. taking about Palestinian Israel state conflict is a stupid conversation to begin with, sadly he also shows his lack of awareness in actually being biased which is disappointing coming from an so called intellectual. that's all.

[@21stCenturyEconomy]

You guys just make up stories and start believing it. No wonder why you get kicked out of everywhere

[@roy2079]

@@21stCenturyEconomy so whose actually the refugee?

[@scaffoldhire7058]

Bitcoin will bring peace, and free the world 🙏

[@sionnach.1374]

I'm tired of the middle east

[@HHH78709]

Cope

[@roy2079]

quite frustrating hearing a person i look up to in terms of thinking objectively, so confidently saying things that are far from reality and saying them as if he has any idea how people actually lived and still live here today.. really not a good take..

[@abramizaackaplan6723]

There are so many problems with his narrative. The basic premises from which he makes his arguments are massive distortions of history. I know he’s being sincere, but it just goes to show you how reasonable people can live in completely different versions of reality.

[@fusion9619]

What if you're wrong?

[@roy2079]

@@fusion9619 everybody can be wrong, but saif states what he says as if he was actually there and actually lives there when in fact he only gets his information from specific sources with some kind of perspective on the history they learned. have some humility. these are not facts, they are just historical speculations and sugar coating which shows a bias

[@HHH78709]

COPE

[@roy2079]

@@HHH78709 it's obvious youre very smart