.22 Airgun HollowPoint Pellet and Slug Expansion Test

[@joeanon5788]

My gratitude for having clean fingernails....so few understand this.

[@JohnDoeTheTroll]

I thought I was the only one who had that aversion.

[@joeanon5788]

@@JohnDoeTheTroll The worst is when I watch a Gold Rush program, and they fondle some pieces of gold, and their hands and nails make want to puke.....lol. But I also dont like to see long fingernails on a man, even if they're spotless, and some women with extra long and curvy nails from a salon are icky too. lol.

[@JohnDoeTheTroll]

@@joeanon5788 One of the worst is Matt Dubber, if you watch other air rifle videos. I love his videos but have to look away when he's showing anything in his hands lol.

[@farukhhasan11]

Best video I have ever seen on comparing expansion slugs/pellets. Please keep going.

[@dmann1209]

Excellent test and medium. Your test method is one of the best I have viewed in a long time. I will be looking forward to more episodes from your channel.

[@cgruber54]

New air rifleman here - that was an exceptionally helpful comparison. Thanks for putting it together, it helped me narrow down my choices.

[@zacharybennett3249]

Slick shooting and authentic review of the results! Thanks for your efforts SylvanShadow!

[@TCat-ve9qi]

Never saw you but I watched Airgun vids since the beginning of their time on KZbin and this is good content. Great no BS no frills info.

[@javiercastaneda4609]

Great demostration of the power of these pellets. I liked more the analysis you carried out by comparing the geometry of the pellets that you shot versus the one for the new ones. Thanks and best regards.

[@cdrealist9398]

You earned a subscribe, i was curious whether to get the fx hybrid slugs or hades, but the hybrid slugs are far more expensive. Decided on the hades. When i first saw the picture on the tin it looked like it was one of those pointed hollow point hybrid pellets like terminators or destroyers but suprised to see they have 3 seperate cavities. Even more impressive the expansion looks exactly like a radiation symbol. Great content, wasn't dragged out, straight to the point and covered the results I've been looking for.

[@miroslavb8387]

Nice video. Thumbs up on the final review with a deformation comparison on the tins. I have Hades and H&N Slugs already on the way so i am looking forward to them.

[@fishing4happiness610]

Great video... I've got many tins of all the pellets you tried. I am always amazed at the performance and accuracy of the Hades. They expand as effectively as POLYMAGs but have superior penetration and cost less. The Hades also group out to 80 yards, whereas my POLYMAGs don't group well beyond 60 yards.

[@antonio-andresfortezastefanova]

Those hands have seen some work, that's what the hands of man should look like! And great video, was very helpful.

[@hohenstaufen.1010]

Great video 👍🏻 have you ever tried to fill a hollow point with mercury and close it with superglue

[@AirTanksPlus]

Very Interesting results. I've been playing with the jsb .177 knockouts and I am pretty impressed with the expansion. I now just need to find the airgun that shoots them the best

[@niko2002]

Rugar makes some good air guns in that caliber.

[@TannerP97]

Great video, exactly what I was looking for. Glad to see the HN hunter extremes expand nicely as they shoot insanely accurately through my Umarex Origin and are my usual go to pellet for that rifle.

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

Thanks for the input. It’s nice to know that some rifles like them. I really wish they shot well in my AT-44. Need to try them in my Seneca.

[@sosteve9113]

I have h&n testing for the moment,it's great to see all of them and how they perform

[@TheCreedBratton]

I use hn hunter extremes too. I want to try jsb hades. Hades are a bit lighter which is interesting

[@stedyone1090]

Great test. Great results. I had 2 AT44s still have one.

[@cornfields-crosshairs4182]

Right on Steady One....AT44 is the O.G.! SOLID!!

[@garynasrallah8710]

Very nice video, good Demonstration Nice information keep the videos coming and I will keep watching.

[@lenmalick8640]

Good job, very informative. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@steveprice3480]

Very good video a excellent slug and pellet test thank you for posting I know how much time and effort it takes to set up film and edit and upload. Thank you😊

[@PeakyBlinder]

What I did was set the pin in my swager for a deep hole, I then measured the depth of my magazine and set the swager to that depth so the slug was snug in the mag, The deep hollow point removed lead so I could keep the weight of the slug to 26 grain yet it has the length of a 32 grain. The work wonderful.

[@olsoftshark8986]

Great video bud. Great results. I believe the knock out and h and n woukdve bloomed out more if they wouldve been shot above 950fps. Those slugs like speed, unlike the pellets which do best between 800 and 900 fps.. thanks for the good video with usefull info

[@slavaslovanom1078]

Best review i saw on youtube, thanks a lot. Greetings from east europe

[@vashmatrix5769]

Thank for the review. Hope that fx is accurate in a gamo swarm magnum.

[@eduardosoto7763]

I like to find the decibels of your air rifle, it see to perform very well. Look forward in watching more of your vids. Thanks good job 👍

[@Gweedoe831]

Great video showing expansion of each projectile. I have an origin.22 with a budget IR scope for rat and gopher deleting. The barracuda hunter extreme gives me the best combination of accuracy and lethality. I use the h&n slug hp for the ground squirrels and raccoons because they get through their thicker coats better and the kill is more humane. Just got the fx hybrids to try and they’re not as accurate but I think it’s because of the lead burs around the hollow point. Going to run another mag through with ones I cleaned up because that expansion is insane.

[@JoeMama-hl5qc]

Some of the funniest vids to make,, Lovely weather out there..

[@juantego7614]

Great video thanks. I miss my at44 long, it was my first pcp.

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

You know that’s actually kind of funny because my AT-44 long was my first PCP as well. I will be doing a 4year review on it soon. Thanks for commenting.

[@HunterParkNZ]

Cant believe you are actually retrieving shot pellets and showing deformation! Good video you save my money on which pellets to buy. I will subscribe you keep posting interesting video 👍

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

I love hearing feedback from the people who watch my videos. Really glad you liked it thank you for watching.

[@stevep9739]

Who else got the first 5 bars of duelling banjos in their heads as soon as he came on screen?! 😂😂

[@mikepi660]

Thank you for your time, video,, It helps us all decide what we need, like,,,, Excellent video

[@alfakilla1]

Excellent review...I used to have 1 of those AT44's in 25 cal...I just ordered some H&N and JSB slugs.....wish I had watched this b4 I ordered

[@catherineharris4746]

Outstanding test!👍👍👍👍👍

[@xMrjamjam]

If you havent you should tryout some hollow point slugs made from a swage, they tend to have way less weight differences compared to ones out of a tin. Sure the swage costs a fair bit but if you do a lot of shooting it eventually pays for itself as you can make about 400 pellets with about 1kg of lead which is worth aprox £1

[@AlbertoAlexanderRodriguez]

I've shot over 15 types of pellets so far, and I love Hades over all others. If only those were cheaper...

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

I agree the Hades are excellent hunting pellets, and many rifles seem to shoot them well. They’re light enough for minimal drop out to 50 yards, they expand, and my AT-44 long shoots them at 1 inch at 50. In short, the perfect squirrel and bird pellet.

[@safakaswedishairgunforum-n1490]

would say that the hades is priced about the same as the jsb domed 18,13 grains quality pellets ( it is basically the 18,13 grainer with the cut out reducing it to 15,89 gr) would not say that is expensive for a precision pellet. cheaper expanding stuff like crossmans dont have the accuracy even if they expand. we still need to hit the target to get expansion, right?.guess we get what we pay for, no free lunches in this world 👍😁🔫🇸🇪

[@TheKontraktor007]

Have you ever tried the H&N Terminators, Crosman Destroyers and Apolo Arrow pellets? Cuz they're all the same type of pellet, except they have different varying weights for the pellet. And they all have good expansion

[@TheKontraktor007]

Also perfect for mice and rats. The Hades pellets would and has absolutely destroyed mice and rats. Since I've seen a KZbin video of what they can do to them. Possibly would also be great against rabbits as well

[@retepeyahaled2961]

Hi, nice video. How would the standard diabolo pellet look like in this test? And maybe you would be interested in testing the H&N Hornet pellet. It is a lead pellet with a copper point. I would expect that the lead body and the copper point get separated when entering a target - the lead body might be expanding and stopping quickly, while the copper point might be penetrating much deeper. So when you hit flesh, it would become a real mess.

[@matthieudangerous]

great vid !

[@mgunner770x]

Nice job!

[@safakaswedishairgunforum-n1490]

excellent take on the expansion thing , easy to undestand-made with stuff availiable for everyone, presented nicely. just the way i like a youtube channel . 👍😁🇸🇪🔫 You got a new subscriber 🙏

[@jonhart6688]

Hi, loved your vid…look forward to more..🇬🇧

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

Thanks I appreciate it.

[@TCat-ve9qi]

Ever since I started shooting at my new permission, slugs are just king if they shout well in your rifle. I have an FX Crown and luckily it shoots the HN 23gr very well out to 100 and the BC is so high it bucks the wind so much better. 18g JSB are accurate and hades are nasty but the slugs bc are just more effective bc they are easier for me to shoot over 50y accurately

[@martybennett1861]

Hi , great video. What is the energy of your rifle in foot pounds please ? In the UK we are limited to sub 12 and mine is doing 11.9 . I'm guessing I wouldn't get that expansion with the lower energy ? All the best 👍

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

Thanks glad you liked the video. My rifle is set to around 32 foot pounds. Toward the end of the video I show the energy for each of the pellets in the top right hand side. You’re right you wouldn’t get the level of expansion that I showed with only 12 foot pounds. I think the FX slugs might still expand though. Thanks for watching.

[@placydoplacek]

Good job! I watched it with much joy! Very nice commentary. Any you planning to perform any other tests with slugs/pellets?

[@billhinkle1653]

I would like to see a standard domed pellet for a control. One Huge advantage of a pellet os the low bc. I don't worry much about where they come down at maximum range, where slugs eill come down flatter, and could hurt someone, or something.

[@davidhopson9802]

I wish you would do a comparison with them on some uncooked ham bones

[@jnpg1450]

Nice video, thanks.

[@FxFanBoy]

This is your first video on KZbin? Great video very informative. Even though I don’t have That rifle lol. Be interesting to see maybe 40-50 yard accuracy what ever range you plan on using for hunting. Ballistic gel be dang!! We got veggieZ 😂

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

Glad you liked it, thank you very much for watching. I intend to do more test soon.

[@butcherknife59knife46]

Great you gun killed the garden produce! LOL Perfect job on expanding pellets. Keep up the good work. Around Bend Oregon Out!!

[@tnsharpshooter8517]

Very good video.

[@isoae4169]

Amazing brother

[@bobjoatmon1993]

Generally, slugs are more accurate at higher velocity (but not too far into the transonic region) and woukd also get better expansion at those higher velocity... However, at long ranges where the slug has slowed down, they woukd be about what you shot there so its still a valid ballistic test

[@johnmcphee2201]

very interesting video very well presented and very enthusiastic

[@mikhailsiderman2191]

Great job mister!

[@chuckbret644]

Awesome demo,God bless!

[@danmiller1978]

good video which ones do you think is best for food getting duty? also which one is best in your opinion for larger game like bobcat, racoon, coyote etc? i would think on large game penetration trumps expansion? thanks for any insight God bless!

[@JohnHowerton223]

Not a criticism because this was a grab and go test, but push the slugs up to the pellet's speeds and beyond, and that expansion opens right up.

[@PeakyBlinder]

Great vid, My cricket loves them extremes

[@randymcconnell9178]

Great job!

[@tomkearns6830]

very good video. However I suggest you do additional testing & evaluation on your slugs. First weigh the slug before and after shooting. Second compare the FPE of each lastly measure the diameter or expansion ratio. A more closely shot gel would also allow calcualtion of penetration. You might find the Hades diablo at 15 .xx grains at a faster velocity than the FX Hybrid 22 grain may pass more energy into the wound canal resulting in a faster kill. In any event GREAT VID!!

[@ChristopherRyan84]

Those FX hybrid slugs do they work in a Hatsan Bullboss?

[@eduardocastro1153]

Wich one would you recommend for iguanas. Their skin is tough and I want to kill them with one shot. Thanks in advance and by the way great video!!

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

Thanks for watching. How powerful is your rifle and how far are you shooting from?

[@laurafunk565]

Good job👏, I learned something lol🤣

[@sniperNervousfinger45]

Perfect my friend.

[@daniellyne1]

How you done a review on that rifle yet

[@martingoubart5839]

Do these slugs do any damage to piston guns

[@deplorableredneck4.02]

Keep up the good work

[@dietertubeyou]

Thanks for the test.

[@nicorallysport]

Barrel Lothar Walther ?. Fac ?. Thanks

[@Gunner-ll1zd]

Good video. That gun is little long, but good for testing I bet.

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

Great video thanks 👍😉

[@jerwinncrane1233]

Is the gun your using break barrel

[@ruansiebert]

Good stuff mate Would be great to see what Fps is though..

[@bobbob6162]

Excellent work….thank you. Bob

[@rali4850]

Good video 👍

[@Bemx2k]

Wish to see more serious distance from target , at least 30m best 50 to 60 meter/yards

[@jessepawlak5903]

Forgot about the Parana 22 (5.5)pellet from crossman

[@AhmedAli-gb6ie]

So what the pest pellet

[@SimpleGr33n]

Will you do this in .177

[@grahampalmer9337]

OK. So you are using a (UK) FAC rated weapon. That makes a world of difference.

[@Z28PAPI]

What color did you do the stock on your at44-10. I want to do a desert sand color. I did the Keda wood dye RED on my Flashpup

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

It’s a snake skin pattern with alternating light green and dark green stripes. I used rustoleum camouflage paint. Need to redo it to make it more permanent(future video). The Keda RED on the Flashpip sounds really good.

[@Z28PAPI]

@@thesylvanshadow4223 a up close look at your paint job would be awesome. I did post a short video of my hatsan flashpup.

[@stevezphone]

Nice comparison

[@timderick2846]

Great video!

[@henrymoreland8719]

Good video, subscribed.

[@itsderpethan9329]

VERY nice! Truly a wonderful performance. 🥒🍅 !VEGS BE WARNED!

[@allenfunk6215]

Well done, great idea shooting the pellets into the cucumber and digging them out. Good shooting! Where did you get those nice lookin tomatoes? LOL

[@mikeridge]

Great review good test

[@GRBuy]

Hello everyone! Is it true that the 22 caliber Slug should be used in carbines above 40J=30 ft/lbs?

[@moachangki]

Nice vid, cucumber size is good.

[@indianajude3009]

Nice vids Dana better than mine lol

[@Crete1943]

There are 5 weights for the H&N Slug HPs from 21 grains to 30 grains. Which one is shot here?

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

21gr.

[@ПавелТерн]

Спасибо за труд, и отличный тест!

[@DirtyDovi]

First off, it's 12/25, so Merry X-Mas! 🎄🎅🏻 EXCELLENT job with these comparisons/tests, and it was definitely very informative! In my collection, I have a Hatsan Gladius .22/Long [witch is similar to your AT-44] Mine shot super-hot outa' the box, and was eventually 'de-tuned' for best [excellent] results! Anyways, I always test-fire my rifles using Crosman Premier Hollow Points, followed by JSB Diabolos, then H&Ns - and NOW also Hades.. I've used every pellet/slug you tested with here - minus the Knock Outs [They're next] Shooting - Precision Target / Not hunting Indoor range - So for me, Big Expansion is Everything - to help w/ slowing the projectiles.. Anyways.. The Hades are as accurate and consistent as the Match/WadCutters I used to use! Amazing to shoot and they stop short of 'accidentally continuing through my backstop[s] :D The H&N Baracuda Hunter Extremes are a runner up, and I can pretty much say the same. HADES - the nose is cut like the 'Ionizing Radiation' symbol.. They should have used the 'Biohazard' symbol, as those things Are a threat to biological life! haha The FX Hybrids - While they shoot well, etc.. I'm holding off on any thoughts until the Knock Outs arrive.. Those 2 seems like two of the best to compare head to head. - For their niche purpose.. Hey, again.. Excellent job, and.. Thanks for sharing! 🤘 Sam -

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

Now that is a comment! Also, love your attention to punctuation(very rare). My AT-44’s all-time favorite pellet is the Air Arms Diabolo18gr. Field Heavies, 10 shot group at 50 yards is 5/8 of an inch. Would probably be worth a try in your rifle. Thanks for watching, comments like yours really make my day.

[@DirtyDovi]

@@thesylvanshadow4223 Thanks for the compliments bro! Much appreciated, and I have to agree with you.. People's punctuations [and minds] have gotten reeaal sloppy! lol Thank you for the heads up about the AA pellets! Past-Experience tells me that you're right! When I had my Kalibrgun Cricket WST Carbine, it absolutely loved those same rounds! [I had 1 tin of those and 1 tin of the next lighter version - I think the 16gr] Both shot Beyond Amazingly! So for others reading this - Ya might want to give them a try! [Highly Recommended] Hey, you're very welcome, and.. I'm really glad that you enjoyed the comment! It's nice to be able to chat [and in my case - mostly Ramble] 😂👍 I'll do one better . . . **Subscribed** Keep em' coming, and have fun in the process! Sam -

[@TheGoldenBear79]

@DirtyDovi & @thesylvanshadow4223 Thank you both, I loved reading your conversation gentleman. It’s refreshing and uplifting to see people, especially on the internet, who just seem like good people, who actually care about treating others with respect & kindness. If just that was more common it would be a better world. @thesylvanshadow4223 if you hadn’t already earned it with the great video, then seeing this conversation would have made me subscribe. You gentlemen are a perfect example of why my experience is that the shooting community has the best people of any sport. Older more experienced shooters always seemed eager and happy to help me learn more. Even going so far as to slowdown the skeet shooting just to throw a clay to show me where to position myself for the shot, how much to lead the clay, and how to wind back toward the high or low house so I could pick it up and track it until I was in the position to shoot with my body in the proper position. Most of us love to share our passion with others by teaching them in a safe environment, where we can make sure they are comfortable and confident, so they can be safe and have fun with shooting. I have been lucky enough to introduce several people who didn’t like guns before, but they trusted me to take them shooting for the first time, and they all went from not knowing, therefore not liking guns, to loving them. Amazing how a little knowledge & seeing that gun owners are normal peaceful people, (for the most part), and hope to never have need to use a gun in self defense against anyone. They seem to realize they would rather those of us with guns who would defend others from criminals who don’t care about the laws, than seeing only the criminals being armed. I always thought that’s the best way to change someone’s mind about guns. Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I respect you showing each other kindness & respect. I hope you’re both having a wonderful day today, and my best wishes to you and your families. ✌️🇺🇸 P.S. Wishing you the best of luck with your channel. Thanks again.

[@grahampalmer9337]

What is the power rating (lb/ft) of your air rifle?

[@joaquinrobledo7504]

Exelente. Explicación👍💯

[@yotehunter3468]

Should've used the predator polymags they'd have really blew your mind....

[@abdulmananvlogs9914]

Nice

[@Raszita]

od drugiej minuty zastanawiałem się, jakie te ogórki są zmutowane xD

[@PeakyBlinder]

Do you know what speed they are moving at, ?

[@thesylvanshadow4223]

Which pellets?

[@PeakyBlinder]

@@thesylvanshadow4223 sorry the speeds were right at the end of the vid, I'm more interested in the slugs with the deepest hollow point.

[@imSkyzWRLD]

Whats thee rifle jw??

[@danielabrullo10]

7:20 Fantastic surgery

[@brucekendall52]

Why shoot cucumbers(They are just water)Rather shoot a gem squash or butter nut?(Or cocnut)

[@Doobie603]

You are mostly water...

[@KevinWood44]

U shot the JSB about 225fps too slow