22 ARC vs 6mm ARC vs 6.5 Grendel vs 6.8 SPC: Did Not Expect This

[@natalyasparrow6748]

6.8 SPC rules at close distance. Initial military fielding was very positive in urban areas, but out in the mountains was where it didn't do so well and that was probably what kept it from going further in the adoption process. 5.56 is adequate at the distances 6.8 was good for, provided you did your part as a shooter, and at significantly lower material cost and already in the production and supply chain. If you need more gun, 7.62 is also already available and not going to put additional strain on logistics.

[@albundy7459]

Weekly reminder for someone to loan this guy a 220 swift.

[@adabsurdum5905]

He would also need a loaner .222 or something to compare it with

[@albundy7459]

@@adabsurdum5905 there is nothing to compare it to. Maybe a 22-250, but there isn’t anything pushing 4000 fps to have a fair comparison.

[@MrLongshot762]

Winchester white box 45grain jhp

[@MrLongshot762]

Hornady superformance 50 grain

[@joemarchinski914]

WHOTEEWHO Adam is the only one I know of,but he's in Tennessee

[@zh6607]

6.8spc has been my hunting choice for a few years now

[@Headsuporheadstone]

Same, I run it in my Mini 14 for whitetail.

[@patroit5192]

6.8 spc for the win. Love the caliber! My 90gr handloads are about 2900fps out of 16" barrel.

[@barccy]

.22 ARC - Hornady Black 75gr ELD 20" BBL 2,953 FPS 1,452FT/LBS , 6mm ARC Hornady Match 108gr ELD Match 20" BBL 2,626 FPS 1,655 FT/LBS , 6.5 Grendel Hornady Black 123gr ELD Match 20" BBL 2,486 FPS 1,688 FT/LBS , 6.8 SPC Hornady Custom 120gr SST 20" BBL 2,661 FPS 1,869FT/LBS . The ELDs are supposedly a little more rigid than the SSTs, so that's even more impressive that the 6.8 SST outdid the others in their ELD loadings.

[@robgoins3672]

Some of these just came out and you got full builds for all of them. Let’s get some 8.6 blackout vs. .338 arc big money Banana😉

[@duranbailiff5337]

Yes, Sir!

[@thefink1990]

The 6.8spc is my favorite ar round. It is so slept on for some reason. I'm so happy to see this video. I have a 16 inch 6.8 spc and just last year built a 11.3 inch 6.8 spc. I run 90 grain maker rex ammo going 3000fps out of my 16 inch barrel and 2800 out of my 11.3

[@marktwain2053]

270 Winchester's baby brother.

[@hawkuser604]

My 20 inch AR-15 runs 90 to 100 gr close to 3000 fps as well. Compared it with my 243 winchester with the same bullet weight and barrel length and it was about the same.

[@phillycheesetake]

It's slept on because it has no external ballistic advantage over .223, and way more recoil. A 90gr .277 projectile has a lower sectional density than a 62gr .224. A 90gr 6mm has the SD of a 117gr .277. More recoil than a .22 or 6mm, less sectional density, lower BC, and no gain in trajectory at all. And necking it down didn't help, the .224valk was a flop. The 30 remington is just not an efficient case

[@K-bob_45]

@@phillycheesetakeit’s more efficient than the grendel/arc case

[@hawkuser604]

@@phillycheesetake 6.8 SPC does have some recoil for sure even out of my heavy AR. I was shocked at how much. Not hard, but more than I expected, but I would love to see someone with the ability to compare a 243 to the 6.8 on a video for comparison. I would still take my 243 over the 6.8 for a hunting gun any day.

[@Possum3v]

Idc what anyone says, the 6.8 spc beats the Grendel for hunting in anything shorter than a 22 inch barrel. Sure box velocity is higher for the 6.5 Grendel but it’s measured with a 24 inch, 6.8 box velocity is measured in a 16 inch. Im glad you pointed it out unlike most KZbinrs. I have nothing against the Grendel, I just prefer 6.8. I also love 6mm arc

[@andrewcarlson2178]

Looking at the posted speeds, the 6.8 isn't nearly as affected by barrel length as the 6.5 grendel. It holds more kinetic energy out to 800 but the Grendel stays flatter to 1000

[@Possum3v]

@@andrewcarlson2178 yep

[@WilsonRawlins]

@@andrewcarlson2178 I have a 12.5 Faxon match build AR and just finished a 20" build. My go to 1000yd build. I can take repeat shots and stay on target the whole time. Recoil for the 6.5 is also a good bit lower than the 6.8 SPC. Also, WAY less than the .277 Fury (6.8 x 51). Plenty of ammo available just expensive.

[@Roninx1980]

I didn't expect the 6.8 to do so well. I have a 6.5 Grendel and love it. They are all so close though, not worth buying the others if you have one already.

[@Tony-om5kr]

I assembled a 6.5G with an 18" barrel. Factory ammo is expensive. My handloads make ~2366 fps with 123 gr match bullets. They group about MOA at 100 yds. I picked the Grendel over the 6.8 SPC because of the better long range ballistics for paper punching. If I were ever to use it for hunting (unlikely, I'm in my 70's now) I would probably restrict it to

[@Roninx1980]

@@Tony-om5kr I have a 20” barrel on mine. Using Hornady Black it’s around 2388 fps, I also chose it for better ballistic qualities. Not mad at it. Shoots great. But I don’t hunt with it. Like you said, paper puncher. Definitely 300 yds and in if you do hunt with it.

[@JohnSneed-nx2kb]

It's really best to go 10 inch or 16 inch. You're not getting much more velocity with 17-24 inches. Remember, accuracy is mechanical and has nothing to do with barrel length. That said I'm rocking a single shot Ruger American with the conversion sled mag. 22 inches.

[@FlannelOpossum]

6.8 SPC when loaded properly (Remington fucked up so anything off shelf is downloaded) is very effective.

[@Tony-om5kr]

@@FlannelOpossum I came close to building a 6.8 SPC Spec 2 rifle but chose a 6.5G instead; a little less hassle and the barrel was on sale at the time.

[@davidmcclendon583]

My first custom caliber AR was a 6.8spc with a Bison 18" barrel. Great round!

[@AaronBell-vx4pl]

I have a 16" BSP barrel and run handloaded 120 SSTs for supersonic and 200 Woodleighs for subsonic. The SSTs have taken 2 deer, 4 hogs and a coyote.

[@ESikora12]

I run 6.8 SPC out of a 14.5” pistol setup for MN whitetail. Did all kinds of research on the Grendel, 300BO, and others before coming across the 6.8 that’s apparently quite popular in the South for pigs. The combination of energy on target and range put it above the rest. It’s been great both years I’ve used it at 150 yds and just shy of 200 yds to comfortably take my deer

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

Also the 6.8 spc is probably my favorite super sonic round to suppress!

[@scubasteve3032]

Um, are you spying on me? I’m that 6.5 Grendel fan boy sitting on the toilet!😂

[@dhardison]

How did everything come out? 😅

[@duranbailiff5337]

@@dhardisonLike coal tumbling down a chute! Git Sum Grendel, Baby! 🥳

[@DSK_Sean]

6mm Arc fan doing the same 😂

[@essaarif7941]

Same here

[@coreymerrill3257]

The 6.8 spc is pretty amazing and horribly underrated. You can look up ballistic testing for it including auto glass and the 6.8 excels In a big way. 6.8 spc II, .338 spectre and .458 socom are IMHO the best conversion rounds for the AR-15 . 6.5 grendal is close . The 6.8 spc was originally designed for the 14.5 " m4 barrel and carbine gas system. The 16 " is standard as a commercial cartridge. A 115 grain Remington fmj should get in the area of 2800 fps In a 24" barrel and just over 2000 ft.lbs muzzle energy. There was for a long time 6.8 spc spec II " combat loads by a company called silver state armory. It was basically a +p version developed in tandem with Barrett using their m468 and gen 1 rec7. Unfortunately nosler bought the company out and immediately canceled the combat loads after selling their assets. In contrast to regular ammo, that 120 grain sst would get about 2850 fps from a 16 inch barrel. They and a 87 grain Barnes tac-x offering at 3100ish fps ,A 100 grainer at 3000ish fps and so forth. It's why we have a spec II chamber and 1/10 twist minimum with 1/11 being ideal . The downside of it is it's unusually sensitive to fast twist rates with standard 6 groove rifling. Even that was worked around when Bison and white oak made subsonic loads and a 1/7 twist barrel 2 (maybe it was 3 groove, its been years) groove barrel that could handle all loads. Sorry to rant, I'm a 6.8 spc fan man. Lol with my luck I'm sure if I lived the 6.5 grendal, .450 bushmaster and .300 whisper/blk ,they would all be on the fringes of extinction or proprietary and esoteric rounds .

[@smileygladhands]

I have 2 AR-15s. First one was chambered in 6.8 SPC. My dad and I didn't know what we were buying or looking for and just wanted an AR-15. The gun is a beast. It's my emergency hunting rifle, or if I for some reason need a beefy round. The main home defense AR-15 is the 223/556, just because the ammo is relatively cheap and easy to find. I was thinking of selling the 6.8 SPC, but after I found out it could be used for hunting larger game than a 5.56, I decided to keep it. Ammo is a little expensive and kind of hard to find, but I have a decent stock of it, and it's not my main practice rifle, so ammo isn't really a problem. Thanks for the vid Banana!

[@winstonsmiths2449]

I have 1,100 rounds stocked for a few years now.

[@grandpre25]

I jumped on the 6.8SPC bandwagon very early on when i saw it punch thru steel and explode water jugs. This is the 1st comparison video ive watched and i was on the edge of my seat at the end! Totally blown away that it beat the 6.5 Grendel!!🎉🎉 Thanks for this epic battle video!

[@davidmcclendon583]

I jumped early also. After I built mine and seen what it was capable of I built my twins was an AR in 6.8spc. I just wish Silver state armory made ammo, they made quality stuff. Can't find it anymore.

[@spencerbookman2523]

I'm another early adopter. I figured the 6.8 would do well, though. It's generally going to have the most muzzle energy, all else being equal. If you're punchin' paper at a thousand yards, as mentioned in the video, it's a whole different story... but it's the perfect semi-auto ranch rifle cartridge, IMHO.

[@Blackline9114]

I’ve got you setup for the next one; 270, 280, 30-06, 35 Whelen.

[@Mr.Run-n-Gun]

I've got 6.8 in 16" & 12.5" barrels, the MV and ME are very close. This round gets spicy real quick. Great hunting round.

[@Sun-Warrior1911]

The 6.8 SPC never gets any attention. I’d love to see a match up between 6.8 SPC vs 7.62x39 vs 300 BLK where the winner gets a 1V1 against the 5.56!!

[@theGimpfantry]

I have always wanted a matching pair of Grendel and the Beowulf...

[@chriswalsh9989]

Enjoyed this video man, i been interested in possibly getting a 6.5 upper so i found this definitely interesting. Also i appreciate you posting the bullet weights and type of round you have been using past few videos. That has been one of my only issues or things i wished you did in the past, so thank you it makes for a more relatable or at least understanding what round actually achieved your results in the videos. Thks again!

[@mr.tall-man1573]

As a reloader, I agree LOL. I've also been looking at getting into the Grendel. Several options for bullets.

[@PineyJustice]

AAC makes good cheap grendel ammo, overall grendel is the best for reloading too, followed by 6 arc, but 6 arc factory ammo costs twice as much and is only made by hornady. Both are great cartridges, the 6.5 and 6 are going to beat the 6.8 at range as the 6.8 is going to have lower bc bullets.

[@HammerliFanBoy]

A group of crows is called a "murder"

[@PopeRocket]

Three or more crows. Two crows is attempted murder.

[@tommygatch]

Crows are very smart. They've been known to stand over their dead in groups. For a long time scientist believed it was a form of sorrow. Recently they determined that the group was actually trying to determine what caused its death. These have now become known as Murder investigations.

[@HammerliFanBoy]

@@PopeRocket nice!

[@Sterlingcape]

What about a group of Ravens??????

[@Sterlingcape]

A Kindness of Ravens

[@otetechie]

“Try it at a 1000 yards next time” To be fair that is what the 6 ARC is designed for…

[@rangetime6779]

Surprising results. Thanks for the test.

[@AdrianBoyko]

Really?

[@JohnSneed-nx2kb]

You can't deny the damage against soft targets that the long and slender 6mm and 6.5mm projectiles deliver. Even out of 10 inch barrels they deliver some serious pain. Great stuff.

[@BourbonPrepper]

I'm with Bathroom Banana. I like 6.5 GR, which is why I have 4 of them. But if I were to do it again; 6.8 SPC for sure.

[@BuffRANGE]

Bravo, Good Show!

[@hickboyjusthick698]

I had no idea that Matt, the King of armor destruction, was here.

[@snakehead5444]

Love my 6.5 Grendel, probably would go 6mm arc for better performance at range but ammo is way to pricey at the moment.

[@goodnewseverybody739]

That slo-mo really shows what’s coming back at you, you got balls my friend👍 stay safe

[@bradleydysinger6906]

That 6.8 SPC was developed as a replacement for the 5.56 in a military trial. If I remember correctly it was designed to increase the engagement zone for infantry from 500 to 800 meters on point targets out of a 14.5 inch barrel. It met all the requirements then the army decided it would cost too much so it was never officially adopted. So no wonder its a beast out of a 20 inch.

[@donwyoming1936]

The OTM projectile designed for the 6.8 SPC, which made it so special, was deemed to violate the Hague. The 6.8's performance was less than spectacular with a FMJ. So, it died.

[@phillycheesetake]

@@donwyoming1936 Fuddlore. The 6.8spc just didn't perform.

[@bradleydysinger6906]

From what I understand the finds were that it did out preform the 5.56 but the army decided to just issue more 7.62 rifles as DMs so you see the increase in M14's being pushed out to line companies. Share ammo with the MGs less logistics

[@otetechie]

@@donwyoming1936the MK262 round which is widely used is an OTM 5.56. There are tons of OTM rounds in military service.

[@joshwebb609]

Now take them to distance but you won't tho 😂

[@stephenedwards5063]

Thank you. I’ve been waiting for this

[@sixfiveoutfitters1201]

The technical term for a group of crows is a "murder of crows." They are definitely plotting your demise! Great test, thanks! Please always list the bullets and loads used when you do these tests so that you're comparing, well, bananas to bananas. You've got Hornady's toughest SST hunting bullet against three target rounds. Differences in bullet construction make all the difference.

[@vladorlovsky6623]

Another great video. I’d love to see TM uncle’s super secret recipe loads, especially what they do to mild steel.

[@huguesdepayens807]

I was literally about to comment how you should compare 6.8 spc. Nice video man.

[@handroids1981]

Based Banana Man. This a genuinely interesting line up. Thanks BBM.

[@pewpewbbqs]

6.5 Grendel for my next build, LFG!

[@Miohunter444]

Banana the guy with the best voice in the business!!!

[@barryscott6222]

I have always rated the 6.8 SPC. It is a great concept for a round, and if executed well, will absolutely deliver.

[@Dfleuryoutdoors]

Glad to finally see someone acknowledge that box numbers on the 6.8 are from a 16" barrel while everything else is a 24". 6.8 is so underrated simply because it's not the best to shoot long range with, which It was never designed to. It was designed to increase lethality from short barrels at standard combat ranges and it does a great job at that. For a short, lightweight hunting rifle the 6.8 is superior out to 300 yards. Past that the other calibers overtake it but past 300 yards none of these are really good on large game.

[@Pikens]

You should do a comparison with subsonic ammo. 8.6 vs 300 blk vs 338 arc. I would love to see what the differences are between the rounds.

[@twigsaregood]

Very nice! I'll have to consider getting one of those 6.8 SPC uppers someday...

[@NicoBowersock]

Toilet guy was a masterful addition to the video! Great job.

[@beardedavenger7654]

It was closer than expected 👍

[@markwatson4101]

Been whitetail hunting with 6.8 SPC for over ten years. I've tried other calibers but always come back to the 6.8. It just works.

[@Sterlingcape]

If you read the internet the 6.5 Grendel is basically an ICBM and the 6.8 is weaker that a fire cracker.... more than likely due to the 6.5 box numbers being out of 24" and 6.8 box numbers being out of 16"

[@Wilt11-14]

Finally some love for the SPC! It deserves it.

[@TechandTools1]

The scenes on the toilet always get me lol. Keep thoses up 👍

[@colepreszler]

As a Grendel fanboy, I gotta point out that you used a match bullet for 6.5, but a SST for the 6.8, so that may explain some of the difference in performance.

[@K-bob_45]

Potentially. I do wish they were all the same bullet type

[@Peace-ju9us]

To honor Paul Harrell , you should use ORANGE soda jugs...thank you for testing out 6.8 SPC...

[@Grasshopper-hj9lr]

I’ve been hunting with the 6.8 for many years. I believe out to 300 yards you cannot beat it for small to medium game.

[@jonathanrogers9961]

So from what I have heard 6arc was designed to hit harder than 223, but have similar range to 308. I would love to see a comparison with 223, 6arc, and 308

[@gregjohnson4395]

I have no explanation for why that "Damnit" cracked me up so much.

[@priltzy]

Man great video as always. Would love a comparison on 6.5x55 vs 6.5 creedmoore. Many thanks from sweden mr banana or as we say in sweden tack så mycket herr banan

[@tristanpedersen9056]

Going to need to see the new 338 ARC eventually

[@duranbailiff5337]

Absolutely. I am very interested in this new cartridge. Within moderate ranges, it should be very good when applied to the right sized critter.

[@LikePhoenixFromAshes]

Just as I thought: ARC's are awesome distance calibers, but 6.8 SPC smokes everything else in terms of real-life on target perfirnabce. Grendel is nice, but at the end it's a stop-gap cartrudge... For target shooting and fun 6mm ARC is great, but hot loaded 6.8 SPC, especially from 16-to-20 barrels slaps HARD. I cannot comprehend why it does't dethrone 5.56nn Nato at this point, SPC loaded in style of M855A1 green tip would frig so hard at any realistic battle distances!

[@andrewszerbiak7330]

The 6.8 is an amazing round. Sadly just never super widely adopted. I have a few rifles chambered in it.

[@ears1620]

As a new barrier you should try sand or dirt. You could put it in a 6 or 8 inch box

[@peternorton5648]

🤨really?? Don’t go there, just don’t. We all just talked BB out of using the sand box and here you are . . 😆😆

[@Renrondog]

[@garrettstiles7808]

The troll is strong with this one 👍

[@SlowrideSteve]

I'm a 6.5 Grendel fan boy, so this was cool, but I'm not ditching my favorite long range gun

[@joesashiify]

Yes. I like the Grendel.

[@johnimhoff6153]

Thank you for the 6.8 SPC Reveal. I've been a fan since inception. I'm wet as well. More flattering than your Crocs.

[@timrobinson6573]

We need the Boomer Ballistic BlowOut! 30-30 vs 45-70 vs 30-06

[@bass3003]

And your Hornady 6.8 isn't even spec II pressure. Get an LWRC Six8 or build a New Frontier Armory with an ARP barrel. Either 😮will let you use the Six8 Pmags. Add some Druid Hill Armory SPC II ammo, and you're golden. All these other cartridges are nice, but they don't have a rifle platform developed for them like the 6.8 does. Good Shooting Banana. Thanks for putting the 6.8SPC out there.

[@K-bob_45]

I’m just waiting for Sig hybrid case for the 6.8 spc and then necked down to 6mm. Seems like it would drop right into the ecosystem you mentioned and basically dunk on anything shy of a large frame platform

[@bbenson9]

Had not heard of Druid Hill. Just ordered a couple of boxes for my ARP-barreled 6.8 SPC II.

[@UltimateEnd0]

LWRC Six8 is the best

[@emacstac]

Excellent as always!

[@toddparsons2980]

👍 like this comparison. Thanks

[@officedullard8722]

I like 6.8 SPC.

[@drewwood2941]

i'm here for the stories to enhance my shooting experience at the range.

[@charlesr9110]

Add a few drops of dawn dishwashing detergent to the water target

[@bullittsandbullets1821]

I love my 6.8 SPC. Best AR-15 round. LWRC also makes a rifle that was designed on this round

[@Omaba_Baba]

11:43 : Lol his face!!! That's my feelings too. Probably too close to the others, though. 11:50 : Straight up, my face = Chris Pratt Shocked Smile. No. Freaking. Way. Have we been wrong about 6.8 SPC for over 10 years?

[@memsu06]

I've been on the 6.8 SPC bandwagon for awhile now. Perfect southern deer hunting round. I use it because liberals say the AR platform can't be used for hunting, lol.

[@JohnSneed-nx2kb]

I use a Ruger American Grendel with a single sled mag conversion. It's nice and quick to reload without the jank AR magwell. Good luck this season bro.

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

I've always liked the idea of the Grendel.. I just never can justify actually buying one; I've got the energy/distance niche pretty much covered by other rifles.

[@duranbailiff5337]

A couple of years ago, I ordered a 6.5 Grendel Ruger Gen I Predator from Academy Sports. Since it has a 22 inch barrel it wrings more of the fps out of the powder. It is a tack driver, and not bad with the Wolf steel cased 100 grainers. The Wolf is getting very hard to find, but it was a very affordable buy. The US military should go with the Grendel when they replace the 5.56x45. The Grendel is an intermediate cartridge, but it brings more punch to the table, without the excesses of the new experimental .270. It is utterly ridiculous what those rounds cost. 😵‍💫MAGA 🥳

[@marcohandy67]

I've been very happy with Hornady's 110gr V-Max for my 6.8spc LWRC Razorback. (Had to delete some comments as you included the ammo used at the end)

[@jeremystyron9721]

6.5 Grindal and 6.8 SPC dominated those test FYI the ARC is a Grindal necked down anyway. Great vedio. God bless you and your family God-bless America 🇺🇲

[@misterbreakit2006]

You need the Swede! 6.5 Swede

[@AaronBell-vx4pl]

@@misterbreakit2006 the Swede doesn't fit in an AR-15 rifle. That's the point of all of these cartridges...to maximize the AR-15.

[@misterbreakit2006]

@@AaronBell-vx4pl That's the AR-15's fault, not the Swedes's 😁

[@BlueCollarRay]

Grendel Forever. I finally subscribed. Great Vids ✌🏻

[@UncleBildo]

My fave in this ballpark is my .270 WSM. She's a thumper! Shoots better than I am capable of anymore.

[@ImOldGregg]

Your moms a thumper

[@lawerancedodd690]

Love your channel

[@chasesantiago3176]

Definitely would like to see the 22ARC vs the 224Valkyrie

[@JimYeats]

Does anyone still have the 224 Valkyrie? There’s a lead balloon.

[@chasesantiago3176]

@@JimYeats I’ve got one as my coyote rifle and it dumps them out to 400+ yds. I’ve reloaded both the Valkyrie and 22ARC and speed wise, they’re closer than you think.

[@JimYeats]

@@chasesantiago3176 I know, i’m just giving you a hard time because of how much people razz on it now. I’m sure it performs well, but it certainly took a hard nose dive in popularity.

[@scottlamp3097]

The 6.5 Grendel is my favorite since it's the only one of these that I have...

[@ljprep6250]

By Jove, those plinked the ocean much more than my .22LR. MUCH more.

[@adamhorr8492]

I have been with the 6.8 since the inception. Remington is the reason 6.8 didn't do as well as it should have. It was designed to kill stuff quickly out of the ar15 platform and it continues to deliver.

[@JacobE-23]

Ive also lost a hat to the ocean. I bring backups now. Aint getting sunburned on my bald head 😂

[@jonathangagnon6261]

Great test! I appreciate you used the closest ammo comparison as possible! I wonder how much the 6.8SPC being a hunting bullet vs the match of the other 3 made the difference on the steel

[@mrfrm1975]

great piece

[@nathanlambshead4778]

I am not even interested in these calibers personally, but I watch your videos anyway. Want to see which ones get through the steel. lol

[@garrettstiles7808]

6.5 Grendel guy here: did someone say to try these at 1,000yds next time yet?

[@lvcsslacker]

5:09 that defeated "...damnit."

[@billydanzz]

Been rockin' Grendel especially since PSA via AAC has been cranking out rounds...patiently waiting for them to start making SPC because 0.80/rd for milk toast S&B fmj isn't worth it to me.

[@mongosafariadventure]

If I needed another caliber in an AR-15 platform the 6.8 SPC is my likely choice.

[@a.joegevara3519]

Missed the 6.8, built 6.5 & 6mm. I just don't think I'm going after a 22arc. Great comparison though!

[@surfstarcc1]

God bless your gun collection! 💪

[@whoshotashleybabbitt4924]

You may becoming a fan of the 6.8, but i am already a fan of Toilet Guy.

[@joyroc885]

My first rifle I was going to build was a 6.8 Spc but at the time I couldn't afford the ammo so I did a 556 and later a 6.5G cause ammo was cheaper. I still want a 6.8spc though. Maybe this will be a good time to built one. :)

[@308c]

I've been trying to decide which new caliber I should build my new AR in. From this video it's looking like the 6.8 will be it. Thanks!

[@disturbedmaynard3873]

Lately my choice of firearm purchases is determined by ammo availability and price. Maybe do a video on a few handguns using one of the hot bear loads. See if you can stop old smokey from putting out your back yard camp fire before your beans, weenies and S'mores are all cooked

[@draconian6692]

6 arc is best arc/ppc case🎉 proved

[@lorcan2316]

We clearly wanna see more 6.8spc content, maybe an SBR with ballistic gel and velocity tests would be awesome

[@danmorgan3685]

It's interesting how similar these cartridges are. it seems to me that 6.8 came out just a bit ahead. I don't think it's enough of a difference to warrant switching but a new purchase is another matter.

[@Renrondog]

"just a bit ahead" ? Did you not watch until the end? Holy smokes.

[@duranbailiff5337]

@@Renrondog Close up, the 6.8 rules. When stretching out the distance, the 6 and 6.5 will perform better. It all depends on application.

[@KevinJohn556]

I’ve shot it once and have been convinced since the NGSW went to sig. I believe we should ditch 5.56 and take up the main weapon for all branches would be the Sig MCX LT using 6.8 SPC3 which would be a custom load from Sig using the new case technology of the stainless steel case head and increasing pressure to 80k.

[@64samsky]

I will stick with my 6.5 Grendel, ammo ammo and components are easier to find.

[@winstonsmiths2449]

6.8 SPC II was sabotaged! The gun pimps pushed Valkyrie, 300 Blk, 6.5 Grendel when testing showed te 6.8 was the best all around cartridge. Even the new army round is 6.8. Different cartridge design but the caliber is the same. The 6.8 was simply not pimped because who designed it, and no former SOF guy was pimping the round, that is the only reason it never caught on.

[@jefferytillis8309]

That. And it didn't help that Nosler bought Silver State Armory and pretty much squashed all the great work they had done with the cartridge. Add in Remington screwing up the submitted specs as another negative. I still love the cartridge and have two rifles chambering it. Along with thousands of rounds in my stash. I do also have two Grendels and a Valkyrie. Don't need the ARCs.

[@WallyMerc06]

I'll always say that the 6.8 spc is the best modern military cartridge design.

[@winstonsmiths2449]

@@WallyMerc06 Yeah, "they" just did NOT want this cartridge to succeed. Patent, profits etc, were not going to go to one of the big manufacturers. The did not find SOF types to pimp the cartridge.

[@naininja2485]

The difference is countless vids of boar and deer being taken by 6.8 spc and 6.5 grendel. Look up 6 arc and you'll only see varmint hunting, look up 22 arc and you'll see hornady adverts