220 Film - Can You Shoot That?

[@larsbliss2728]

When I shot weddings I used 220 film in my Mamiya C-220. By rotating the pressure plate and flipping a switch you could go from 120 to 220. It was really nice having 24 exposures per roll. I always shot the first exposure with a slate that had my business name, address, and the wedding name just in case there was ever a mixup at the lab. Can't do that any longer cause with 12 exposures that one extra could be needed for a shot you could never recreate. Thankfully I have a Bronica SQ series camera and extra backs to go along with the Mamiya for those times I will shoot a wedding and that isn't often. Kodak, BRING BACK 220!!!!!!!!

[@mersea.714]

I sold many bricks of 220 to wedding photographers back in the day. VPS, Portra 160NC, 160VC, 400NC, NPS, NPH, etc… It’s wild to think it isn’t made anymore.

[@bthemedia]

2:10 Correction: you can NOW still buy fresh Fuji Velvia 100 film in 220 format on eBay. Expiration 2020! Got a pro pack for $60 a few months ago but now it’s higher!

[@Xenonic2]

Update: Velvia 100 has been discontinued in the US

[@mattdyer9544]

Shanghai GP3 is now available in 220, as well as 127, and 620. These aren't 're-rolled' but properly made from the factory.

[@joelbolden8457]

Reflx Lab offers Pro100 in 220 also.

[@MrEddie200p]

I’m excited now that Cinestill announced the 220 comeback 😭🎞

[@Ivandotjpeg]

Recently self developed my last few rolls of 220. The film was old, plus X pan and the results were amazing. My 220 reels fit inside a standard nikor stainless steel tank so I’ve been using 1 reel to spool 2 rolls of 120. I’ve been developing 4 rolls of 120 at the same time.

[@pembridgehouse]

Pentax 645 medium format camera film cartridges have both 120 and 220 film holders.On 120mm I get 15 shots on 220 ,30 shots.I have both types of film holders and did use my P645 on some weddings.I didn't need a special film back to shoot 220 on my Pentax 6x7.

[@khanscombe619]

All those old, good cameras I use do it well and made dedicated backs for it such as Hasselblad, Pentax, Linhof, Horseman, Mamiya, Graflex. I spool my own rolls to lengths. Now, finding 220 metals reels is a challenge or expensive. I go for an old plastic adjustable capable of 135 and so on so its lengths is able to take on 2x 120 or single 220. And Bob's your uncle. My current new adventure is 65 & 770mm custom loads into Kodak 70mm daylight cassettes. keeping to just a tad over 220 as finding 70mm reels or tanks for 50 exp is limited and expensive. . 65mm rolls onto 220 reasonable. The 220 loading has more to do with film flatness and pressure plate. Hasselblad does that awesome well. Mamiya Press backs on RB67 awesome as well. Good fun video.

[@n6vcw]

I shot 220 exclusively in my RB67. Shooting 120 in it just didn't make sense with the few exposures it afforded unless I was testing out a new lens or something.

[@hipstercrab5886]

fuji gw690 also takes 220 film. extra length is VERY useful when shooting 6x9

[@lonniepaulson7031]

You also need special developing tanks for it. I used to shoot 220 in a Yashica Matt 124 camera and had a special 220 developing tank with two 220 chrome reels. These reels were very wide and fit in a special wide tank. Mine was made my Honeywell Nikkor.

[@Billie64]

Lonnie Paulson the Mat can take 220? I was given several boxes of 220 today and don’t know what to do with them, but I have that camera and use it regularly.

[@derekheeps1244]

I just used my standard Paterson tank with the same spiral as I used for 120

[@btrdangerdan2010]

I never knew much about 220 film. Thanks for the information!

[@areallyrealisticguyd4333]

Why was 220 discontinued anyway? It seems like up until 2010 most major film stocks had a 220 variant but then they stuck to producing 120 afterwards. Was it because the market for 220 cameras was so much smaller than regular 120?

[@AnalogResurgence]

It likely was due to lack of demand because of professional industries moving to digital and that's what lots of medium format was being used for! Also fewer camera choices as well

[@macmacoytot]

hi! i have a bronica etr with 220 back. can I just load it up with 120 and shoot away with it? will there be any problem with that?

[@AnalogResurgence]

You might be able to, 220 backs can be different because there's no backing paper involved like with 120 so they don't have the extra little bit of space to accommodate for the paper on the film. If you can load it and everything is moving smoothly then that's a good sign that it should be okay. Here are some threads to check out about it more: www.photo.net/discuss/threads/bronica-etrs-220-film-back.371737/ www.photrio.com/forum/threads/convert-bronica-etr-220-insert-to-120.142564/

[@iaintempl8]

You can but it's not best practice. The 220 film is thinner than 120 with the extra backing paper, therefore you might find that the 120 film snags or is just hard to wind on to the next frame. Don't ditch the 220 back if you do have problems though, 220 backs are ideal if you want to shoot 35mm film with spool adapters in your medium format camera.

[@agespin]

Can PENTAX 645N 220 Film Back Holder be used for 120 flim

[@830Video]

Using it on my G617 today at sunset

[@professor-josh]

Like that beefy wooden handle on that Pentax.

[@MB-or8js]

Hasselblad 220 film cartridges can still be found online for quite cheap. Would be nice if you had mentioned how to actually develop the 220 film - do you simply remove the tape in the dark which holds the short paper strip to the film? On both sides (beginning and end of film)?

[@AnalogResurgence]

Yup! You just remove the beginning and end paper that’s taped on similar to the way that 120 backing paper is taped on (120 paper only being taped at one end though). Then it’s just a matter of feeding it onto a developing reel. A standard Paterson reel will hold the roll.

[@MB-or8js]

Thanks for the reply, great! Just adding that you can't simply remove the paper from 120 films - it is glued onto the film and needs to be cut with scissors (otherwise a thick end will remain which makes it hard to insert it onto Paterson reels). Glad it can be done with 220 films, therefore my question!

[@GGoAwayy]

I'm curious to see a video on loading/shooting 35mm in Karat, Rapid or SL cartridges.

[@andrewb6653]

Does anybody know if you can shoot a 120 film roll inside of a 220 film back

[@thomashewitt2597]

You can... but you will get odd spacing between frames... sharpness will not suffer as you will probably be stopped down

[@michaelsmdk]

There are also TLRs that can shoot 120 as well as 220. Like the Mamiya c330

[@Jermzybarra]

WHOS HERE AFTER RHE CINESTILL 400D 220 ANNOUNCEMENT?!

[@nathanvrvrt]

me

[@johnm2012]

Nice channel. Subscribed.

[@orbolanos]

Do you know if you can use 120 film on 220 magazines ?

[@AnalogResurgence]

I think in some instances you can, but it does depend on what kind of camera you’re working with because it can change. Some cameras are built to be used with both, but some with magazines can do it as well but it’s a little awkward.

[@sashadon]

Hello! If I have a Mamiya 645 pro with 220 magazine and I use 120 film, will be any big differences on the photos? Because some people say that there is no any problem, but some people still say that there are, but nobody can say what exactly.

[@bigmercury]

Alexandra Don did you ever find you answer? Why wouldn’t you be able to load 120 film in a useless 220 back for rz? I just might do it and see what happens.

[@bthemedia]

@0:55 yes I agree, “240” is 2x120 length and makes more sense! Odd that they assigned 240 to APS cartridge film in 1996! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format

[@arricammarques1955]

No 24 exp. rolls for 120 format?

[@bernardkealey6449]

If shooting in 6x2 pano you could get 24 frames from a 120 roll :-)

[@JimmyFerminFilms]

AHHHH my daily dose of film.

[@Mado3nani]

Does the Rolleiflex 3.5F take 220 film?

[@Fjalll]

Only later models with a little switch on the side that displays "12" or "24". If it ain't got the switch it ain't shooting 220

[@pedromeza2398]

The Kiev 6C uses 120 or 220 too.

[@sarpkacmaz5910]

So 220 mm is even a lot higher quality than 70 mm or 65 mm?

[@bernardkealey6449]

“120” and “220” are just a format name. They are not a mm reference. The width of the film is 60mm. The difference between 120 and 220 is purely in packaging. 220 doesn’t have a continuous backing paper so 2x the length will fit on the spool.

[@Avtandil_74]

I've got a big roll of 70mm microfilm, I bet I could cut it down and spool it to shoot in my C330.

[@WalterRemson]

The spool for 70mm film is different than the spool for 120/220 film (wider).

[@Avtandil_74]

@@WalterRemson 120 film is only about 61mm wide.

[@WalterRemson]

The reason I know this is because I shoot 70mm film on my Mamiya RB67 & my Pentax 655N that have 70mm film backs ! If you like I can send a photo of the backs and film spool, just need a email address.

[@Avtandil_74]

@@WalterRemson Something strange. I see my comment was from a couple years ago. I looked through my film supply and I don't have any 70mm, at least not that I can find, but I do have 105mm microfilm. Maybe that's what I meant to write. Anyway, I was talking about cutting it to width and respooling it onto 120 rolls to use in my Mamiya C330, or in a roll film back for my Ica 9x12.

[@Alpine_Wanderer]

Shanghai sells 220 b&w that's new production

[@leekeene2116]

But, can 120 be shot in a 220 camera?

[@waNErBOY]

there arent any 220 cameras. It either takes 120, or takes both.

[@nathanvrvrt]

and here comes cinestil with 220 film :p haha

[@edwardtoro241]

You forgot about to mention the Hasselblad 24 film back.

[@melody3741]

I mean they cost double the cost of 120 film so why would you do it. You're not saving money, you're not having better film, you're just depriving yourself of the joy of loading a role of 120

[@kevinpatrickmacnutt]

Yashica Mat 124 and 124 G will take both.

[@DoRC]

I shot a roll of film once. I missed the first few times but I hit it eventually...

[@Cameront9]

For whatever reason this video is not showing English Auto-Captions. Can you look into that? I'm Deaf so I can't enjoy your videos otherwise.

[@AnalogResurgence]

Oh! I’m somewhat new to KZbin so I guess it might not be enabled, I’ll look into it right away and get it figured out for you!!

[@AnalogResurgence]

Looks like it thinks the language is Korean for some reason just on this specifically, I'll do my best to get it working properly!

[@Cameront9]

@@AnalogResurgence Thanks for looking into it! All your other videos have worked great. I've seen this happen occasionally on other channels, too, so don't sweat it!